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Audio quality on Tmobile SG2

I have been considering upgrading from vibrant to GS2, but since I so much enjoy my music on voodoo sound plus powerAmp setup in Vibrant, will it be a let down on GS2 because of inferior DAC? Those who switched from original galaxy s please comment.

rakeshchn said:
I have been considering upgrading from vibrant to GS2, but since I so much enjoy my music on voodoo sound plus powerAmp setup in Vibrant, will it be a let down on GS2 because of inferior DAC? Those who switched from original galaxy s please comment.
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Stock music app has an option for 5.1 surround sound which is very good. also i believe the sound card is yamaha brand.
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rakeshchn said:
I have been considering upgrading from vibrant to GS2, but since I so much enjoy my music on voodoo sound plus powerAmp setup in Vibrant, will it be a let down on GS2 because of inferior DAC? Those who switched from original galaxy s please comment.
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simple....are you an audiophile? I mean a true one. If the answer is yes, then you'll likely be let down because the Yamaha chip isn't as good as the Wolfson according to Supercurio. If the answer is no, then you'll likely not notice the difference

When I had my vibrant, my flac albums sounded absolutely luscious, and I don't get quite the same impression with the sgs2, even before I found out about the yamaha dac. However I left my vibrant like a year ago so this is hardly valid.. I think may have had supercurios sound fix on it too.
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Thanks for the replies. I won't call myself an audiophile, but once i had voodoo on, the sound from Poweramp with equalizer tweaked to my liking is very pleasing. I hope SG2 can provide at least 80% of the fidelity.
One more question. Any issues with A2DP streaming to Bluetooth headphones? Vibrant has lower quality over A2DP in spite of having BT 3.0

rakeshchn said:
Thanks for the replies. I won't call myself an audiophile, but once i had voodoo on, the sound from Poweramp with equalizer tweaked to my liking is very pleasing. I hope SG2 can provide at least 80% of the fidelity.
One more question. Any issues with A2DP streaming to Bluetooth headphones? Vibrant has lower quality over A2DP in spite of having BT 3.0
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Dont know about A2DP... but the best bet to answer your question is Supercurio. Hit him up on twitter he'll likely reply. Also if its straight up streaming to bluetooth head phones it completely bypasses the DAC see the following tweet
http://twitter.com/#!/supercurio/status/169484560827027456
Also.. Supercurio isn't able to pull off anything like voodoo sound on the yamaha DAC.. He did do something for the international/at&t version called Voodoo Louder which i believe only boost the output volume of the headphone jack. I don't know if its coming to our SGS2, but I would say its not likely

rakeshchn said:
I have been considering upgrading from vibrant to GS2, but since I so much enjoy my music on voodoo sound plus powerAmp setup in Vibrant, will it be a let down on GS2 because of inferior DAC? Those who switched from original galaxy s please comment.
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Try this ... its not voodoo but it really helps ..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1434834
poweramp sounds really good on the sgs 2 and with the latest update it just got better ...

Yeah its just as good. I like it alot
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[Q] Are there any kernels that support Voodoo Sound?

Pretty much what the title says. My Nexus S sounds amazing with Voodoo sound enhancements. Is there a kernel for GNex that supports Voodoo sound?

There is no Voodoo sound for Gnex.
There is Alsa Mixer on the market which supposedly unlocks "high performance" mode on the TI audio codec, but I haven't really tried or tested it.

You can try Franco's kernel and his app from the market. Offers high quality option, but tbh I can't really feel it. Then again none of the audio solutions work for me (out I'm just dumb).
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Anyone care to share how Alsa Mixer compares to Voodoo Sound?

There's a post somewhere in here by supercurio explaining why Voodoo Sound will not work on the Nexus.
We have a pretty good audio chip from what I recall.

bk201doesntexist said:
There's a post somewhere in here by supercurio explaining why Voodoo Sound will not work on the Nexus.
We have a pretty good audio chip from what I recall.
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from what i read, supercurio essentially said that our hardware isn't as good as the galaxy s lines. because of this, there isn't nearly as much potential for improvement with the galaxy nexus as the galaxy s line saw so the time it would take wouldn't be nearly worth the work for him or someone else to develop.
edit: found it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1504584

NoHolidaysForAHooker said:
from what i read, supercurio essentially said that our hardware isn't as good as the galaxy s lines. because of this, there isn't nearly as much potential for improvement with the galaxy nexus as the galaxy s line saw so the time it would take wouldn't be nearly worth the work for him or someone else to develop.
edit: found it [/QUOTE]
Yeah... I read something ...stick with the Nexus S a little while longer.
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Actually, it wont work because our audio codec doesnt support DSP.

S3 audio Quality vs note 2?

Have anyone tested the audio on both (s3 note2)?
The s3 with the siyah kernel and its audio tweaks sounds so good, but I haven't test the sound on the note 2.
I googled and found that both phones have the same audio hardware but the note 2 doesn't the siyah kernel.

enop4 said:
Have anyone tested the audio on both (s3 note2)?
The s3 with the siyah kernel and its audio tweaks sounds so good, but I haven't test the sound on the note 2.
I googled and found that both phones have the same audio hardware but the note 2 doesn't the siyah kernel.
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Redpill, Neak and Perseus kernels all have sTweaks or equivalent for audio. Your googling was lousy. Search and you will find. Takes 5 seconds.

Get Noozxoide EIZO-rewire
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2039716

B3311 said:
Redpill, Neak and Perseus kernels all have sTweaks or equivalent for audio. Your googling was lousy. Search and you will find. Takes 5 seconds.
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So those kernels are based on the same audio tweaks that siyah kernel has, right? I know that those kernels have stweaks but do they have the same audio presets as siyah kernel on s3

AFAIK S3 has Voodoo support, Note 2 doesn't. It has something called Scoobydoo, which I have tried already but frankly I don't understand if it's any better, at all. Rather I use Mega Bass Beats, works great.

If what you mean is dac enhancement, actual improvement of the signal itself, not the software mods that compress and eq-abuse the hell out of the sound, then I don't think it can be done much better than what scoobydoo has done. I seriously doubt there will be very much difference between the two phones in terms of audio quality.
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adytum said:
If what you mean is dac enhancement, actual improvement of the signal itself, not the software mods that compress and eq-abuse the hell out of the sound, then I don't think it can be done much better than what scoobydoo has done. I seriously doubt there will be very much difference between the two phones in terms of audio quality.
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Unless they are amplified with the tweaks the roms come with.
To the OP: Ofc if you boost up the db you will notice a difference sound volume,but I don't think there is much difference actual quality at least I haven't noticed any. In order to boost that up you really need an nice audio filter. In my case I never listen to radio to notice a difference and the only music app I use that really makes a difference in sound quality is Poweramp, that at least to my ears

enop4 said:
So those kernels are based on the same audio tweaks that siyah kernel has, right? I know that those kernels have stweaks but do they have the same audio presets as siyah kernel on s3
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It's exactly the same implementation.
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I'm using the RR Remix pitch black with the NEAK 1.6 kernel using Wolfson audio, and the sound quality (once set up) is simply amazing. It's actually better quality than my £300 MP3 player, so the wife has that now

I had a Galaxy S3 for almost a year until it got stolen and I now have a Note 2 . In regards to audio quality at max volume the Note 2 is definitely louder at stock and you can feel the vibrations when holding the phone. The only vibrations on the S3 were when you blocked the speaker with your finger. Perhaps it is exactly the same audio hardware but just the volume in the software is louder. Loving the Note 2
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PerthSGS2 said:
I had a Galaxy S3 for almost a year until it got stolen and I now have a Note 2 . In regards to audio quality at max volume the Note 2 is definitely louder at stock and you can feel the vibrations when holding the phone. The only vibrations on the S3 were when you blocked the speaker with your finger. Perhaps it is exactly the same audio hardware but just the volume in the software is louder. Loving the Note 2
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Same happen to my s3, thats why i was asking this question because i am getting a new phone. S3 or Note 2 but since they are the almost the same, i think i am getting the Note 2 that is slightly better but siyah kernel + eargasm EQ preset on s3 was so good ; but since its a port from voodoo both devices should sound similar.

Re: S3 audio Quality vs note 2?S3 audio Quality vs note 2?
Note 2 is in every way better IMHO except for the fact it only comes with 16gb internal storage. Just have to buy a 64gb msd
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SOUND QUALITY (when compared with devices equipped with the Wolfson DAC )

Just curiuous about the sound quality of the Oppo find 7 compared with those devices carrying the Wolfson DAC .
Regardin headset output
Anyone?

I don't know about headphones but all i know is this phone has the loudest and clearest speakers i have ever seen on a smartphone. I have owned all of the galaxy models, droid dna, xperia z2, optimus g pro, nexus 4, huawei mate; to name a few. Besides the HTC Boom sound i don't think many others come close. Most of the time it is literally too loud for general use at full volume.

Thanks
But I am really interested on the headset sound quality.
No external speaker can match my JBL portable ( for phones) ..
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Actually, it would be interesting to know what is the it's the impact (if any)of the cooperation between Waves and Wolfson ( http://www.analog-eetimes.com/en/mo...-technologies.html?cmp_id=7&news_id=222905459 ) on the find 7, since the Snapdragon processor got its own DAC...

betoNL said:
Just curiuous about the sound quality of the Oppo find 7 compared with those devices carrying the Wolfson DAC .
Regardin headset output
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This is my second device with Snapdragon DAC(first was a Xiaomi Mi-2) and both has a very good sound output with well balance equalizer and 0 distortion. MaxxAudio and DiracHD(in ColorOS) it's DSP and as well they put they signature efects and equalizer, this things I don't like. Comparing to Wolfson DAC in my Galaxy devices ,my iPhone 1st gen and my iPod I can't complain about quality and power output, of course they have diferent signatures of sound but every DAC and headphone has too.

dextructor said:
This is my second device with Snapdragon DAC(first was a Xiaomi Mi-2) and both has a very good sound output with well balance equalizer and 0 distortion. MaxxAudio and DiracHD(in ColorOS) it's DSP and as well they put they signature efects and equalizer, this things I don't like. Comparing to Wolfson DAC in my Galaxy devices ,my iPhone 1st gen and my iPod I can't complain about quality and power output, of course they have diferent signatures of sound but every DAC and headphone has too.
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I am also not that impressed with this "award winning" maxxaudio thing and I wonder if it's any better than Viper4Android as a DSP manager.
I guess I just have to take my headsets to a showroom and run some tests on another device carrying probably the same Qualcomm built-in DAC such as the HTC 1 M8.
However it could be that the HTC got another amp implementation ......
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betoNL said:
I am also not that impressed with this "award winning" maxxaudio thing and I wonder if it's any better than Viper4Android as a DSP manager.
I guess I just have to take my headsets to a showroom and run some tests on another device carrying probably the same Qualcomm built-in DAC such as the HTC 1 M8.
However it could be that the HTC got another amp implementation .......
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As a DSP manager MaxxAudio has a good performance and serve for his purpose that is general public and even Viper has a profile that's similar to it. Equalizers and DSP are fairly wrong because they aren't correct anything but adding something that they don't need used and makes even a great DAC like Wolfson sounds bad.

I'll be able to give you subjective views soon enough
I own the SGS3 (with Boeffla sound) and have the Oppo Find 7 coming to me within a week.
I own the Modded D2Ks (essentailly D5Ks) and Audeo Phonak PFE232s

@TotallydubbedHD
Thank you very much..
I will be looking forward your findings
Cheers

betoNL said:
@TotallydubbedHD
Thank you very much..
I will be looking forward your findings
Cheers
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no worries

betoNL said:
@TotallydubbedHD
Thank you very much..
I will be looking forward your findings
Cheers
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Hey there!
Here's my impressions - I just got the phone today and have been playing around with it.
It's almost 3am here and I've got work tomorrow at 9 lol!
Sound impressions: extremely positive, it sounds great!
If I had to compare, I would say (and this is being EXTREMELY analytical of the sound, A/Bing and trying to listen out to certain parts of songs - difference isn't that obvious):
-S3 has a more meatier sound, little more bass emphasis
-S3 and Find 7 have the same output volume (or very close to it)
-Oppo Find 7 is more mid centric
-S3's soundstage is slightly wider/deeper
-Highs seem very similar
Notes:
-Tests conducted un-amped with my heavily modded D2Ks
-This was tested with the S3 using DeltaROM that has Boeflla kernel, but I made sure to disable Boeffla sound in the configurator, before stating the above results. (With Boeflla enabled, the S3 wins in every way, hands down)
-Oppo Find 7 is running stock ROM Colour OS 1.2.6i.
-Both are running Poweramp (unlocked) with flat EQs
-Both phones are on Android 4.3
End of the day, there's an extremely slight difference between the two. It isn't something like the S2's (yes numero dos) horrible chipset (as far as I'm, aware subjectively speaking), but nor is it better sounding than the S3 nor the beast the S1.
It lies between the S2 and S3's sound. Great but not as good I guess.
I listen to music a heck of a lot on my phone and I think I'll cope with with this initial listen - in other words, it's not something that will make me put it down, it's something I'll stick to and happily listen to
On a separate note: the Oppo Find 7 is an amazing phone, blistering fast, charging was ridiculously good, the camera is decent (especially the front facing one) and the Colour OS skin is the best Android skin I've ever come across (ie HTC's Sense and Samsung's TW).
However, I'm a little disappointed by its overall brightness levels , lack of pull-down notification customisation and little washed out colours.
other than those three points (which can all potentially be sorted out via a custom rom), the phone is so far flawless

TotallydubbedHD said:
Hey there!
Here's my impressions - I just got the phone today and have been playing around with it.
It's almost 3am here and I've got work tomorrow at 9 lol!
Sound impressions: extremely positive, it sounds great!
If I had to compare, I would say (and this is being EXTREMELY analytical of the sound, A/Bing and trying to listen out to certain parts of songs - difference isn't that obvious):
-S3 has a more meatier sound, little more bass emphasis
-S3 and Find 7 have the same output volume (or very close to it)
-Oppo Find 7 is more mid centric
-S3's soundstage is slightly wider/deeper
-Highs seem very similar
Notes:
-Tests conducted un-amped with my heavily modded D2Ks
-This was tested with the S3 using DeltaROM that has Boeflla kernel, but I made sure to disable Boeffla sound in the configurator, before stating the above results. (With Boeflla enabled, the S3 wins in every way, hands down)
-Oppo Find 7 is running stock ROM Colour OS 1.2.6i.
-Both are running Poweramp (unlocked) with flat EQs
-Both phones are on Android 4.3
End of the day, there's an extremely slight difference between the two. It isn't something like the S2's (yes numero dos) horrible chipset (as far as I'm, aware subjectively speaking), but nor is it better sounding than the S3 nor the beast the S1.
It lies between the S2 and S3's sound. Great but not as good I guess.
I listen to music a heck of a lot on my phone and I think I'll cope with with this initial listen - in other words, it's not something that will make me put it down, it's something I'll stick to and happily listen to
On a separate note: the Oppo Find 7 is an amazing phone, blistering fast, charging was ridiculously good, the camera is decent (especially the front facing one) and the Colour OS skin is the best Android skin I've ever come across (ie HTC's Sense and Samsung's TW). the Find 7
However, I'm a little disappointed by its overall brightness levels , lack of pull-down notification customisation and little washed out colours.
other than those three points (which can all potentially be sorted out via a custom rom), the phone is so far flawless
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Thank you again...
I will give the chinese a go ....just ordered the find 7 ...
I am keeping my GNote 2 ( with Wolfson / Voodoo) just in case..
Will post here my findings too ...
Cheers

betoNL said:
Thank you again...
I will give the chinese a go ....just ordered the find 7 ...
I am keeping my GNote 2 ( with Wolfson / Voodoo) just in case..
Will post here my findings too ...
Cheers
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Cool beans!
Please let me know how your screen looks - I've been worried about mine being faulty:
http://www.oppoforums.com/threads/f...on-screen-brightness-issue.19138/#post-275288

TotallydubbedHD said:
Cool beans!
Please let me know how your screen looks - I've been worried about mine being faulty:
http://www.oppoforums.com/threads/f...on-screen-brightness-issue.19138/#post-275288
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No problem.
I am new at the Find 7 forums ( here and there) and I didint even get my Find 7 yet, but if I were you I would not compare the screen with a sAmoled device...and... just flash a CM or AOSP rom to check if the issue is softwarewise
If it's not the hardware, I guess a firmware upgrade will do ( if you want to stick with stock)

betoNL said:
No problem.
I am new at the Find 7 forums ( here and there) and I didint even get my Find 7 yet, but if I were you I would not compare the screen with a sAmoled device...and... just flash a CM or AOSP rom to check if the issue is softwarewise
If it's not the hardware, I guess a firmware upgrade will do ( if you want to stick with stock)
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indeed - I'll be flashing nameless tonight

TotallydubbedHD said:
indeed - I'll be flashing nameless tonight
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Dont forget to report back
Since it's a bit off-topic ( no big deal ) you could start a dedicated thread here at the XDA
My Find 7 is probably arriving tomorrow...
I hope it's from a new batch, even if it's coming from England and not China ....:fingers-crossed:

betoNL said:
Dont forget to report back
Since it's a bit off-topic ( no big deal ) you could start a dedicated thread here at the XDA
My Find 7 is probably arriving tomorrow...
I hope it's from a new batch, even if it's coming from England and not China ....:fingers-crossed:
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flashed nameless - seems like the same thing in terms of brightness - I'm just wondering if it's a device/glass thing, rather than anything else....I'#ms tarting to doubt myself.
But each time I see comparisons on YouTube, the S5 and Oppo look identical in brightness
Btw: Nameless is RIDICULOUSLY fast !

Sound quality / chip

Hey guys,
maybe some of u can help me.
Im interested in the sound/audio/music quality of the OP3 in compination with headphones.
I know the quality of a Samsung S2 and S4 (both not with Wolfson chip) and i know the S3 and S5 have a variety with a Wolfson chip (never heared them).
Many people say they can hear a different between them.
Maybe some of you know the difference between them and the OP3? Or can compare?
I think about buying a OP3 and i'm really interested in the sound quality with headphones.
Thanks for any answeres and sry for my english

My OnePlus 3 arrived today and I think the quality with headphones is good. Can't hear any difference between my old Nexus 5 and the OP3 both sound good

I doing the return process for that reason, tottally disapointed with the audio quality using headphones

nexus 5 has terrible speaker

knince said:
nexus 5 has terrible speaker
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They are talking about quality of audio on headphones not the speaker.
Shamu by TT

ralph78 said:
They are talking about quality of audio on headphones not the speaker.
Shamu by TT
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got it lol

ichlernungern said:
Hey guys,
maybe some of u can help me.
Im interested in the sound/audio/music quality of the OP3 in compination with headphones.
I know the quality of a Samsung S2 and S4 (both not with Wolfson chip) and i know the S3 and S5 have a variety with a Wolfson chip (never heared them).
Many people say they can hear a different between them.
Maybe some of you know the difference between them and the OP3? Or can compare?
I think about buying a OP3 and i'm really interested in the sound quality with headphones.
Thanks for any answeres and sry for my english
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I believe the audio solution is the same as for all SD820 processors. Built-in 24bit 96khz support. Nothing out of the ordinary and not high-end but good enough for Spotify Premium and stored Flacs etc.
For Premium Audio you are better off adding an outboard DAC such as from Audioquest (Dragonfly) or Meridian Explorer. Built-in ad-hoc sound processors are almost always a compromise.
A few manufacturer, LG and HTC spring to mind, have better, separate built in DAC's and amplifiers which may suit you better if you don't want to shell out for separate ones.
Having said all this, I use an S7Edge (Exynos version) which, like the Snapdragon uses propriatory decoding and I am happy with it for music on the move. (I also use a full Cyrus home system and Grado Headphones for indoor listening to give some perspective).

The headphone quality w/ Bose QC25 is good and a LOT better than the 6P (stock) in my opinion. It still doesn't beat the iPhone 6s+ in loudness and overall sound quality using Spotify or Apple Music. For most people it's good enough and for others Viper should help a ton but for audiophiles and stock out of the box, it's not going to cut it.

latech4832 said:
I doing the return process for that reason, tottally disapointed with the audio quality using headphones
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How? at amazon? bcoz they don't support return for mobile phones in India

I'm coming from iPhone 6s and the only thing that I don't like at this device is the sound quality,external and headphones both.
Hope we can fix it a bit with viper

micr0g said:
I'm coming from iPhone 6s and the only thing that I don't like at this device is the sound quality,external and headphones both.
Hope we can fix it a bit with viper
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My dad has a 6S Plus and every android device (flagships only) I used had much much better quality with V4A installed. Not sure about OP3 though. Yet to test properly.

micr0g said:
I'm coming from iPhone 6s and the only thing that I don't like at this device is the sound quality,external and headphones both.
Hope we can fix it a bit with viper
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I read that in order to install Viper one has to:
"Setup your Device
For Samsung devices,
1. Try install V4A as user app instead of system app if the latter failed doesn’t work.
2. Use Normal Mode and select V4A FX in Settings>Sound>Music Effects.
3. If don’t work, use another player rather than Samsung stock Music player.
——————–
1. ROOT your device.
2. Install busybox if doesn’t come with root.
3. Modify build.prop (Thanks [email protected])
a. Open up /system/build.prop in text editor using any file explorer with root access.
b. Change the line (If you can’t find these lines, skip this step.)
– “Ipa.decode=true” to “lpa.decode=false”
– “tunnel.decode=true” to “tunnel.decode=false”
– “lpa.use-stagefright=true” to “lpa.use-stagefright=false”"
do you know of any other good app to improve the audio quality of the op3 not needing to the root trick?
I find op3 audio rather flat.
Thanks

Could somebody please check if the google play music app offers you the equalizer option in its settings menu? My LG G4 does not and it is one of the (many) things I hate about it

I'm getting really good and rich sound when I use my Sony headphones and when I hook it up to my car stereo it has better sound than my iPhone really impressed with the sound...
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vdundgren said:
do you know of any other good app to improve the audio quality of the op3 not needing to the root trick?
I find op3 audio rather flat.
Thanks
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Viper is by far ur best bet. Using it myself and it improved the sound a lot. Everything else would just be an equalizer since ab adequate driver can't be installed without root.

gusano38 said:
Could somebody please check if the google play music app offers you the equalizer option in its settings menu? My LG G4 does not and it is one of the (many) things I hate about it
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it does indeed! Only way right now I can stand the poor audio quality... Hopefully V4A will work soon on OP3...

I bet some here confuse "audio quality" with "loud" or/and "much bass *LOL*
The audio quality on this device (headphone jack) IS very good, period.
If you want louder signal (and ruin your ears) or more bass (for your lame nts-nts-nts music), install V4A or something like that...
Pocketnow's measurements:
http://pocketnow.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/OnePlus-3-Audio-Stats.jpg

hasenbein1966 said:
I bet some here confuse "audio quality" with "loud" or/and "much bass *LOL*
The audio quality on this device (headphone jack) IS very good, period.
If you want louder signal (and ruin your ears) or more bass (for your lame nts-nts-nts music), install V4A or something like that...
Pocketnow's measurements:
http://pocketnow.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/OnePlus-3-Audio-Stats.jpg
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Agree, limitations are hardware based and no player will improve that. For audiophiles ... use an outboard dac/headphone amplifier.