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Kernal ??

Is it necessary to flash a Kernal after flashing a custom rom ?
I am thinking of flashing CM 9 or Liquid Rom. Which is the best kernal to flash with them.

-The correct spelling is kernel.
-It is not necessary to flash a new kernel with a rom. In general roms will package the stock kernel unless they note otherwise.
-I am personally a fan of leankernel because of the mission statement behind its development and the accessibility and speed of its update cycle.

Nope. Custom roms have kernels included, so you are not required to download a separate kernel. However, some kernels run better (ie, more fluid, less heat, reboots, etc) than others on the same device. It all depends on the silicon in your phone. If you plan to run cm9, I recommend sticking with the default kernel. If you're going with Liquid, use imoseyon's leankernel (the default) or franco kernels.
Edit: BTW, I highly recommend franco's kernel app, especially if you are new to the scene. It can download & install either franco or imoseyon kernels, making kernel flashing stupid easy. It also lets you overclock & undervolt, change governors and tweak color settings. And it is the easiest way to keep up with nightly/experimental builds. Not to mention it shows your support and encourages more development.
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i say try them all, but for cm9 i recommend fugumod.
Sent from my TF201

Thanks you all for your suggestions ...
finally going to try Liquid Smooth 1.25 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1555667)
along with Franco.Kernel (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1367341)
...... One last question Which Franco Kernel to flash there are Milestone 2, Milestone 1, Nightly ??? Whats the difference between them ?

Also when installing extras for liquid smooth do i need to wipe everything again .. I am new to this flashing stuff
and does Liquid Smooth comes with a kernel if so which one ?

Latest milestone is the most stable. Nightlies are experimental. And no need to wipe.
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@cldwar
Liquid + franco is a great choice. Liquid is an extremely polished rom. Very, very smooth with absolutely ZERO lag (it is called Liquid Smooth for a reason) and lots of customization & tweaking options. franco kernel pushes the smoothness to another level. Liquid & franco are both awesome devs who have been tinkering with android for a long time, and they both know their stuff.
Liquid comes with imoseyon's leankernel, which is a solid kernel (obviously, or Liquid wouldn't have included it in the rom). imoseyon is another well-known & respected dev that churns kernels at a dizzying rate. He must develop in his sleep. A lot of people prefer his leankernel, and you really can't go wrong with it. But like I said before, it really depends on your device. Your phone picks the kernel, not you. Milestones are the most stable versions. Nightlies are bleeding edge experimentals with the latest patches & tweaks that may or may not improve battery or performance. Since you are new to flashing, you might want to go with milestone 2 for a few days and see how it feels. On the other hand, you could jump in balls deep and go with the latest nightly/experimental
And you don't need to wipe anything before flashing the extras package.

sublimaze said:
@cldwar
Liquid + franco is a great choice. Liquid is an extremely polished rom. Very, very smooth with absolutely ZERO lag (it is called Liquid Smooth for a reason) and lots of customization & tweaking options. franco kernel pushes the smoothness to another level. Liquid & franco are both awesome devs who have been tinkering with android for a long time, and they both know their stuff.
Liquid comes with imoseyon's leankernel, which is a solid kernel (obviously, or Liquid wouldn't have included it in the rom). imoseyon is another well-known & respected dev that churns kernels at a dizzying rate. He must develop in his sleep. A lot of people prefer his leankernel, and you really can't go wrong with it. But like I said before, it really depends on your device. Your phone picks the kernel, not you. Milestones are the most stable versions. Nightlies are bleeding edge experimentals with the latest patches & tweaks that may or may not improve battery or performance. Since you are new to flashing, you might want to go with milestone 2 for a few days and see how it feels. On the other hand, you could jump in balls deep and go with the latest nightly/experimental
And you don't need to wipe anything before flashing the extras package.
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thanks .... extremely useful info

Just flashed Liquid with Franco kernel ... Wifi Sucks otherwise cool rom. Is there a way to flash stock 4.0.4 Rom ??
I cant find stock 4.0.4 to flash

cldwar said:
Just flashed Liquid with Franco kernel ... Wifi Sucks otherwise cool rom. Is there a way to flash stock 4.0.4 Rom ??
I cant find stock 4.0.4 to flash
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If you have fastboot set up, grab official images from google and flash them.

bk201doesntexist said:
If you have fastboot set up, grab official images from google and flash them.
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those images are for Yakju ..... mine is Yakjujp ... I think i cant flash them .. any other solution ??

cldwar said:
those images are for Yakju ..... mine is Yakjujp ... I think i cant flash them .. any other solution ??
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doesn't matter,
infact if you flash yakju then you will get OTA as well. if you are in japan you can flash a japan radio on top of the rom.

Rcommander said:
doesn't matter,
infact if you flash yakju then you will get OTA as well. if you are in japan you can flash a japan radio on top of the rom.
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Don't I need to get the boot loader etc back to orignal in order to receive the updates ... ? If so how ?
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Kernal?
I have been researching the many different kernels out there all day. I have been running GummyNex ROM's since I rooted my GNex. I really do like the options he has. I forget which version, but the battery life was amazing (which included the baked in kernel). I flashed to .0.9 and recently 4.0.4 1.0.1 and the battery life is like a V-12 Lamborghini. I just flashed a Franco Kernal and am hoping this fixes my battery drain issues.
Something has to give......

falconfan said:
I have been researching the many different kernels out there all day. I have been running GummyNex ROM's since I rooted my GNex. I really do like the options he has. I forget which version, but the battery life was amazing (which included the baked in kernel). I flashed to .0.9 and recently 4.0.4 1.0.1 and the battery life is like a V-12 Lamborghini. I just flashed a Franco Kernal and am hoping this fixes my battery drain issues.
Something has to give......
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Use liquid rom with Franco milestone built ... gave me a 4+ hour screen time. Don't know why but the nightly version reduces battery life
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I'm running Liquid 1.3 and am using Franco nightly #143 and, so far, my battery life is really great. I was at 89% after 2 hours. I also want to try Milestone 3, that just came out yesterday and see how it performs.

Good Kernel and Rom

Hello dear Community,
i am owning a GN and i Rooted it about 2 weeks ago.
So now my problem is i tryed some Roms and Kernels.
But i wasnt happy with theese.
To much bugs or to fast Battery drain. And instable.
So my question is which Kernel and Roms are good?
I prefer:
Good - High Battery perfomance
Stable.
Can have a good design.
And a lot Functionality.
My GN is GSM. With Maguro.
Im Actually using PARANOIDANDROID.
Sry for my english, thats scool english
Ant thanks a lot for all replies

PARANOIDANDROID is a good ROM but a little Alpha imho. I recommend the following in order of quality and support. I'll recommend Franco nightly kernel with either LiquidSmooth 1.35 or FoxHound 0.6. I'd recommend BAMF but if you go to their thread for support, they got some real douches in there.

Well thank u for ur reply.
I am not a pro but a newbie at flashing roms and kernels.
But i wanna try ur Variation.
Can u explain me how to Install them?
thanks a lot

AOKP + Franco.

zephiK said:
AOKP + Franco.
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+ 1 all the way
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I like my no frills kernel

Flukester69 said:
PARANOIDANDROID is a good ROM but a little Alpha imho. I recommend the following in order of quality and support. I'll recommend Franco nightly kernel with either LiquidSmooth 1.35 or FoxHound 0.6. I'd recommend BAMF but if you go to their thread for support, they got some real douches in there.
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I hope you aren't referring to us...

imnuts said:
I like my no frills kernel
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Me too.

Liquid 1.35 and Franco kernel gives great battery life and pretty good options and stability
AOKP milestone 5 & Franco gives options and stability, though the battery life does not match liquid.
To flash these ROMS, go to their threads and download rom and latest gapps(pls check if reqd or included in rom) onto phone.
Reboot into recovery
Take a complete back up
Factory reset
Wipe cache
Wipe dalvik
Flash new rom
Flash gapps if reqd
Reboot phone
Sign into google
Reboot phone
Wait a few mins
Reboot into recovery (if flashing kernel)
Wipe dalvik
Wipe cache
Flash custom kernel
Reboot phone
If using Franco then download the Franco paid app to get the best from the kernel.
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at francos site is a link with "/nightlies" and there are a lot dl's.
Can anyone explain for what they are?

Flawliix said:
at francos site is a link with "/nightlies" and there are a lot dl's.
Can anyone explain for what they are?
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Nightlies are the beta version of the kernel updated for testing on a regular basis. Always download the latest one. In that u have 512 gpu (overclocked) & 384 gpu. Try 512 first if it works for you without any issues (try with a game) then great, else flash the 384 version which is more stable.
If you want complete stability then go for milestone 3.
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whats the most stable JB ROM?

hi,
i know asking what rom is better is not a good questions as it is different for different people. However, I just want to know what is the most stable, so once I flash it i dont need to keep re flashing.
I am ussualy a fan of CM and when they get stable releases I flash them and then dont need to think about it anymore. on my previous samsung galaxy S I used the CM9 RC for a long time until the stable CM9 came out and then used that.
currently there is not stable CM10 and when it comes out I will probaby use it perminently.
What JB rom can i install that will be stable to use for the next months until CM10 stable comes out?
im using stock JB right now.

stock.

Zepius said:
stock.
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ok i understand. but i guess the main things im lacking on stock is percent battery, ability to alter the navigation bar at the bottom, adding shortcuts to the lock screen slider, and themes.
is there any way to do that on stock? if not any other rams as clock to stable as stock

stock

BAMF has been great. Not a ton of updates as there aren't any issues.

tgyberg said:
BAMF has been great. Not a ton of updates as there aren't any issues.
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ok, what the heck is BAMF i searched that in the android development and dont know what rom your talkign about

Bugless Beast, 9-27 has to new binaries and is JRO03R.
Sent from my Nexus 7

Rasbeanjelly. Its the cleanest rom ever. Fast, amazing battery life and the latest aosp source. Also the nee binaries from jro03R. You should try it. It has the power widget, lockscreen targets and some more mods. If you dont like all the blue of the icons, simply flash modstorms white mod. Flash the rom + trinity/franco. The outcome is awesome performance, no slowdowns, everything just works. No reboots and sh!t. I highly recommend it.
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thegtfusion said:
Rasbeanjelly. Its the cleanest rom ever. Fast, amazing battery life and the latest aosp source. Also the nee binaries from jro03R. You should try it. It has the power widget, lockscreen targets and some more mods. If you dont like all the blue of the icons, simply flash modstorms white mod. Flash the rom + trinity/franco. The outcome is awesome performance, no slowdowns, everything just works. No reboots and sh!t. I highly recommend it.
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I agree with this. Rasbeanjelly + trinity kernel. The rom is very clean. Here's the thread, but you should read the faq before doing anything: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1455874

i love watching these cute pandas slaughter themselves.. nothing but pleasure.

hshaikh said:
ok, what the heck is BAMF i searched that in the android development and dont know what rom your talkign about
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1548940

hshaikh said:
hi,
i know asking what rom is better is not a good questions as it is different for different people. However, I just want to know what is the most stable, so once I flash it i dont need to keep re flashing.
I am ussualy a fan of CM and when they get stable releases I flash them and then dont need to think about it anymore. on my previous samsung galaxy S I used the CM9 RC for a long time until the stable CM9 came out and then used that.
currently there is not stable CM10 and when it comes out I will probaby use it perminently.
What JB rom can i install that will be stable to use for the next months until CM10 stable comes out?
im using stock JB right now.
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I'm using AndroidME with Stock Google Kernel, works perfect, stable, actually it's a stock rom with improvements. The only thing missing for me is T9 Dialer, but no problem to install MOD for it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1774165

Keep waiting for stable versions of aokp or cm10.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium

hshaikh said:
What JB rom can i install that will be stable to use for the next months until CM10 stable comes out?
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im using stock JB right now.
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You've already got the most stable Jelly Bean software then

stock, are you jellin, cm10.
after those you get into roms with more features and and there tends to be little bugs that sometimes go along with them.
Nothing against the others Ive had good experiences on alot of roms but as for the MOST stable these in my opinion would be them.

Stock ROM.
Beamed from my Grouper.

ok looking into BAMF and rasbeanjelly.
another question that could help me dicide between the two. do either have the possibility to upgrade the rom on the device without a computer. so when i install it i can always have the latest version without having to keep resetting to factory settigns and wiping all the data and cache

hshaikh said:
another question that could help me dicide between the two. do either have the possibility to upgrade the rom on the device without a computer.
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all roms do.. that's why you have custom recoveries.. i strongly suggest you read efrants stickies before you flash anything.
sent from my i9250

Yeah, you should read up on some stuff before continuing anything Rom related. Just look for stickied topics, read them, and you will have way less questions left.

bk201doesntexist said:
all roms do.. that's why you have custom recoveries.. i strongly suggest you read efrants stickies before you flash anything.
sent from my i9250
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are you sure? becuase when i was running CM9 RC2 on my old captivate, then the CM9 stable came out. I kept checking for updates in the settings and it kept saying my software was upto date. I had to download the new file and flash it again in clockwork mod.

[Q] ROM Decision with ICS

Hello,
i`m new here with a a100.
I´m ready to flash after root, unlock bootloader and install recovery.
So my question is here in the jungle of rom`s:
Witch rom is in the moment the best usefull and completly work with all stuff in the a100?
I read some threads but for me its very difficult to find out.
Please help.
frischeis

The CM10 builds from pio_masaki are running great. I recommend you to use it together with the gm_2.0 Kernel.

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dtrail1 said:
The CM10 builds from pio_masaki are running great. I recommend you to use it together with the gm_2.0 Kernel.
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Thanks for the information!!
I read a bit this tread before i start this post here.
Okay so i will try to install this:
Build 3 Linaro Tablet UI Modded FINAL
+
gapps-jb-20121011-signed.zip
right?
But what you mean with gm_2.0 kernel?
Is this included in the rom or i must flash this separately after install the rom+gapps?
Where can i download?
Sorry for my odd questions but i will do all right...

Hi frischeis and welcome!
Keep in mind the CM10 builds are not "officially" supported so there is the odd quirk here and there, overall all of the CM10 roms here are running pretty good. In terms of Pio's roms, he suggests using the kernel that is already packaged in his roms. The gm_2.0 kernel is a kernel that was developed with CM10 in mind: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1818924 and some say don't work well with his ROMS which is ok, because the prepackaged kernels in those ROMs are rock solid.
Also note that the CM10 roms are not ICS, they are Jellybean roms. There are still a few ICS roms out there if that is what you are interested in: These are listed from newest to oldest:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2042725
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2008292
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1589034
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1629453

hardslog said:
Hi frischeis and welcome!
Keep in mind the CM10 builds are not "officially" supported so there is the odd quirk here and there, overall all of the CM10 roms here are running pretty good. In terms of Pio's roms, he suggests using the kernel that is already packaged in his roms. The gm_2.0 kernel is a kernel that was developed with CM10 in mind: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1818924 and some say don't work well with his ROMS which is ok, because the prepackaged kernels in those ROMs are rock solid.
Also note that the CM10 roms are not ICS, they are Jellybean roms. There are still a few ICS roms out there if that is what you are interested in: These are listed from newest to oldest:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2042725
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2008292
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1589034
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1629453
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He pretty much nailed it, if you want a stock ish ICS I'd suggest his keebers work, there's also very outdated but functional CM9 builds around if that's to your liking.
It isn't so much I don't recommend the GM kernel with my roms, it's that I know it has issues that didn't get sorted out and reflects as users reporting Rom issues that aren't Rom issues, and to report issues with the included kernel first. If your setup likes the GM kernel, by all means enjoy it, it's been a great addition to the development on this device.
It also wasn't meant for JB, it was a purely ICS kernel, however our ICS kernels worked on 4.1 with no modding required, so it worked with JB with no changes. Got lucky and Acer had stuff going that ICS didn't need but JB does. It should also work in 4.2 with minimal fuss.
Tapatalked from my HTC DNA

First: Thank you pio_masaki, hardslog and dtrail1!!
Sorry i made a false statement__i want of course JB 4.1.x not ICS.
Now i have ICS 4.0.3 ota and i want to make a step forward.
You guys will help me to make the decision.
So i will try KEBBERSROM_CMFLEX_V1.2 - Based on 4.1.2/CM10 (03-29-2013) foundet on hardslog post end.
Downloading...
I hope all works fine and i dont brike my tab

frischeis said:
First: Thank you pio_masaki, hardslog and dtrail1!!
Sorry i made a false statement__i want of course JB 4.1.x not ICS.
Now i have ICS 4.0.3 ota and i want to make a step forward.
You guys will help me to make the decision.
So i will try KEBBERSROM_CMFLEX_V1.2 - Based on 4.1.2/CM10 (03-29-2013) foundet on hardslog post end.
Downloading...
I hope all works fine and i dont brike my tab
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Just read the instructions, don't flash stock roms, and you'll be fine. Enjoy it.:beer:
Tapatalked from my HTC DNA

So after flashing the first impression is:
GREAT!!!!!
So all in all __ awesome.
Thanks again!

For me the gm kernel works very well with CM10. Nothing to report until now - but I'm running for 2 days now.... Let's see.
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I'd recommend flashing different ROMs to see what you like. I like baked, and cm10 but I like the dark theme and on baked you can switch from tab UK and phab. Which is nice. Should help my tab last a while longer....lol the gm kernels have worked for me for quite a while. He had an over clock to. 1.7 MHz too.... no wonder his tab died...lol I think I still have a copy on my SD card! They run best on the older boards. So the community says. But my new one likes it. Over clock to 1.2 and lionheart and boom. I did like green ICS. And cm9 was a consistent winner. Cm10 has come a long way...
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Everybody talk about the gm_2.0 Kernel.
So i have flashed KEBBERSROM_CMFLEX_V1.2 - Based on 4.1.2/CM10.
So is this kernel included or i must flash separately?
One issue two times i have with this rom: i got this notification: "Trebuchet is closed" and i dont come on the homescreen.
Only over the status bar-settings-apps i reset trebuchet and it works normaly.
I dont no was happend...

frischeis said:
Everybody talk about the gm_2.0 Kernel.
So i have flashed KEBBERSROM_CMFLEX_V1.2 - Based on 4.1.2/CM10.
So is this kernel included or i must flash separately?
One issue two times i have with this rom: i got this notification: "Trebuchet is closed" and i dont come on the homescreen.
Only over the status bar-settings-apps i reset trebuchet and it works normaly.
I dont no was happend...
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That launcher is buggy. Install and use Nova or Apex launcher and you won't have to worry about the force close.
Godmachine kernel is not in this ROM, it is packing ezTerrys version, which is the source for GodMachines kernel.
So technically it is almost the same but older and not tweaked as much. Solid kernel on this ROM.
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Thanks!
I will try out...

Also don't disable Google search bar in trebuchet or it'll constantly crash. Another launcher would be better but to stop that particular issue, leave Google search bar enabled.
Tapatalked from my HTC DNA

So i change the launcher.
Now i have nova launcher_works good.
In the moment no buggy situations.
:good:

Keep in mind though that this ROM isn't perfect. There are a few albeit very minor quirks. I have the issues in the OP of thread.

So what is your opinion about a Rom with JB 4.1.x
Witch one is your favorit?
Or better witch one has no bugs?

frischeis said:
So what is your opinion about a Rom with JB 4.1.x
Witch one is your favorit?
Or better witch one has no bugs?
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There is no bugless 4.1 as there wasn't one made for us, it's all done by developers on their own time. It more like, which bugs can you live with, most any of the 4.1 are daily drivable.
Tapatalked from my HTC DNA

So which rom has the fewest bugs?
I now is a difficult question.
And - or a better question:
In which rom is the further development or is the tablet too old to develop it further?
Which rom is pushing forward?
I read in some threads development is terminated!??
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At the moment I must say I am very satisfied with the KEBBERSROM_CMFLEX_V1.2!
So thank you again for to work behind the stage!!!

Some stopped development, yes. I'm going to start 4.2.2 builds soon...
"soon" doesn't mean that these builds will be available soon. I have to start from scratch..
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[Q] current rom

now which rom u use and which rom u flash next

Stock ROM+Xposed Framework+Gravity+francos kernel, gives me pretty much all I need and want. That being said, I do plan on installing MultiROM and trying this out.

fosofay said:
now which rom u use and which rom u flash next
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Stock ROM rooted with xposed framework, root and everything. Seems like it's the most stable ROM, but I'm going to try CM11 for the extra features !

fosofay said:
now which rom u use and which rom u flash next
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Scrosler's clean rom 2.6. I'll probably flash cleanrom 2.7 when it comes out, as clearnrom suits my needs.

CleanRom & Franco Kernel

mellevdlinde said:
On my Nexus 7 2013? Cyanogenmod 11, because of the extra features. Not sure if this ROM improves battery life compared to stock ROM, but at least it does on my Nexus 5.
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cm11 boss.and try AOKP 4.4.2

magneta said:
Scrosler's clean rom 2.6. I'll probably flash cleanrom 2.7 when it comes out, as clearnrom suits my needs.
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+1, and I have Elementalx 2.4 with minumal tweaks.

OmniRom as they are a new team with some good ideas like multi window however currently not implement of their official nightly builds. Also has opendelta which is an ota with a twist. Trying it out so far so good and stable running ART.
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nikzDHD said:
OmniRom as they are a new team with some good ideas like multi window however currently not implement of their official nightly builds. Also has opendelta which is an ota with a twist. Trying it out so far so good and stable running ART.
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Also I'd like to say they seem to have a lot more activity on their gerrit than say PA, which translates to a more enjoyable testing experience (at least for me) due to more changes in nightlies.

Mahdi ROM for nexus 4, will probably stick to this or purity until carbon release their 4.4 ROM
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SlimRom 4.4.2. build 2.6 with ElementalX 2.6 kernel.
Everything is working smoothly, the only feature i miss is keyboard arrows buttons in navigation bar when typing.