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Nandroid Restore

Sorry if this is a stupid noob question but can someone tell me exactly if Nandroid Restore will recover these things:
Apps
Email accounts (Exchange) and all email/attachments
Settings
Call History
Text Messages
Picture Mail
I don't know why it's so hard to find this out but if you could help me out I would appreciate it. As I want to make my NAND fully unlocked but I don't want to have to lose everything as I'm on the road and don't want to redownload and setup on a 1x roaming network. Thanks in advance.

Yeah, nandroid is basically a system image. It keeps all your apps, settings and other information backed up exactly as it was when you made the backup.

Sorry, not that I don't believe you but can someone else confirm, as I said I don't want to get into a situation where I don't have the setup (since I'm not at home) where I can afford to do a restore.

superlinkx said:
Yeah, nandroid is basically a system image. It keeps all your apps, settings and other information backed up exactly as it was when you made the backup.
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what he said but feel free to not believe me also...

Thank you both!

lol I love peeps when they ask for so-called "second opinion" and they say "..not that I don't believe you" meaning, I don't believe you....haha j/k
Yeah nandroid backup/restore will basically put EVERYTHING back to where it was before, and not missing a single bit of it. It helped saves me lots of times because I flash all sorts of different ROMs from others to my own. I have a base ROM that I really like setup to where I like and nandroid backup, and restore when I want to get back to where I was in minutes. Loving DROID!

Two tools I can't live without: Nandroid and Titanium Backup.
Like vboyz103, I have a particular ROM fully configured and backed up via Nandroid. If I'm in the middle of playing around and have to run out the door, I can always nandroid restore that image and know I have a reliable phone to take with me. When I make that nandroid backup, I also do a backup with Titanium...
When I install a new ROM, the first thing I do is hit the market and download Titanium Backup. I run it and do a restore, and all my apps are then restored on to the new image, without having to go download them one-by-one. Once everything is back in place and I'm ready to start using it, I do another nandroid backup and save it as a "base" image of that particular ROM. If I screw it up, I can just nandroid restore that base image of that particular ROM.
That's my routine, I'm sure there are other methods that people prefer!

Didnt want to start a new thread just to ask another nandroid restore question.
Should you wipe data/dalvik before you nandroid restore?

XpAcErX said:
Didnt want to start a new thread just to ask another nandroid restore question.
Should you wipe data/dalvik before you nandroid restore?
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No, when you do a nandroid restore, the caches are replaced as well.

CentroniX said:
No, when you do a nandroid restore, the caches are replaced as well.
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thank you

Question about Nandroid backup..

I'm new to Rooting and I was wondering if I flashed lets say to a new rom weather it is 2.2 or 2.1 and I don't like it or something dosen't work. Can I just flash the most current nandroid backup to return or do I have to flash the old rom that I was using then the nandroid backup on top of that ??
Using Rooted Evo with OMJ update 147.651.1

You sure can as long as the new ROM you flash is also a rooted ROM.

So basically I can jump from rom to rom to see what I like and just flash my backup to return to the original.... Cool.thanks
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Exactly
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Just returned to a nand backup last night. First time ever and worked fine...(I did a titanium backup first as had messages and app changes.)

How perfect, a simple search answered my exactl question.
I can run three roms and as long asI refresh my nandroids before flipping to another to restore I will miss very little. Only issue I can think of is let's say I run stock rooted for a week, and flip to a nandroid of CM6 for a week, then back to stock rooted...I would not have text messages from that time. I can fix that with TiBackup.
Am I missing anything? And, thanks to the people making me do all this stuff to my phone

uniquenameevo said:
How perfect, a simple search answered my exactl question.
I can run three roms and as long asI refresh my nandroids before flipping to another to restore I will miss very little. Only issue I can think of is let's say I run stock rooted for a week, and flip to a nandroid of CM6 for a week, then back to stock rooted...I would not have text messages from that time. I can fix that with TiBackup.
Am I missing anything? And, thanks to the people making me do all this stuff to my phone
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Nope you havent missed anything Thats what i do all the time I believe for a certain period of time something else backs up texts as well because i often get all my texts back after a few minutes even those after the nandroid.

I've seen people having issues when using Titanium to restore apps and data from a 2.1 backup to 2.2 rom and vice versa. I think if you're just cycling between 2.2 roms, you should be ok though.

All I needed to know, thanks!
I'll only rotate 2.2 roms, no need to look back, but I appreciate that note also.

fachadick said:
I've seen people having issues when using Titanium to restore apps and data from a 2.1 backup to 2.2 rom and vice versa. I think if you're just cycling between 2.2 roms, you should be ok though.
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I use MyBackup to backup APKS+DATA when jumping from 2.1 to 2.2 and vice versa ROMS without issue. Love it, love it.

fachadick said:
I've seen people having issues when using Titanium to restore apps and data from a 2.1 backup to 2.2 rom and vice versa. I think if you're just cycling between 2.2 roms, you should be ok though.
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I have been cycling between the 2 a LOT here is what i have found works. when you select to restore all apps/data look through the list and uncheck all the 2.1 system apps (ie checkin_update 2.1, google_search_update 2.1) once you do this you can restore everything else no problem. I have used ths method at least 10 times with no issues back and forth. If you backed up on 2.2 do the same thing just uncheck the 2.2 version of this information.

Can someone clarify the difference between backing up via:
#1 Nandroid
#2 Titanium Backup
What exactly is or isn't backed up? I'm assuming Nandroid misses certain things otherwise no one would use TB?

berardi said:
Can someone clarify the difference between backing up via:
#1 Nandroid
#2 Titanium Backup
What exactly is or isn't backed up? I'm assuming Nandroid misses certain things otherwise no one would use TB?
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titanium backup is just for apps
nandroid restore is like restoring an image of your hard drive to your pc. it not only restores the apps, but the entire ROM (barring radio and wimax radio).
i.e., you have a ROM going. you use titanium backup to backup your apps. then, do a nandroid backup and flash an entire new ROM. then, you could use titanium backup to put the apps back on. then, you would use nandroid restore to go back to the old ROM, completely. with nandroid, you can flip-flop between ROMs with everything that you had when you backed it up.

timothydonohue said:
titanium backup is just for apps
nandroid restore is like restoring an image of your hard drive to your pc. it not only restores the apps, but the entire ROM (barring radio and wimax radio).
i.e., you have a ROM going. you use titanium backup to backup your apps. then, do a nandroid backup and flash an entire new ROM. then, you could use titanium backup to put the apps back on. then, you would use nandroid restore to go back to the old ROM, completely. with nandroid, you can flip-flop between ROMs with everything that you had when you backed it up.
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Thank you so much that makes it quite clear! I was struggling with that for a while
So Titanium Backup backs things up that are generally able to be carried from one ROM to the next without problem? I noticed that it also does backup system settings (notifications, etc) which is great. These things generally won't corrupt a new ROM file right?
So with 2.2 backing up apps and their data, the main draw of TB would be the backing up of system settings?

How long does it take to complete a nandroid restore? I tried to restore a backup yesterday and it was taking over three hours! I said f' it and pulled out the battery, luckily I was able to boot into recovery and wipe/flash fresh's 2.2 ROM from scratch.

XevoX said:
How long does it take to complete a nandroid restore? I tried to restore a backup yesterday and it was taking over three hours! I said f' it and pulled out the battery, luckily I was able to boot into recovery and wipe/flash fresh's 2.2 ROM from scratch.
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Should only take 5 minutes or so, about as long as it takes to flash a new ROM.
berardi said:
Thank you so much that makes it quite clear! I was struggling with that for a while
So Titanium Backup backs things up that are generally able to be carried from one ROM to the next without problem? I noticed that it also does backup system settings (notifications, etc) which is great. These things generally won't corrupt a new ROM file right?
So with 2.2 backing up apps and their data, the main draw of TB would be the backing up of system settings?
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Yes, but it could potentially be problematic to just start restoring things in bulk from a TB backup between different ROMs, even if they are the same base build. Read flipz's rant on the subject.

Nandroid Backup Question

So heres a noob question.
If I use (Rouge currently) to do a "backup" under options. And then start flashing ROMs, if I restore that backup I did, does that get me 100% back to the point of when I did the backup? Meaning, it restores -everything- like it never happened?
I've always wondered this, so if I'm flashing things, I can always get back to my fully stable setup exactly like it never happened by restoring? Or does the backup via Rouge( or CWM, or whatever ) only back certain things and I'll have to do more setup after restoring to get back up and running exactly like I had the phone before?
Sorry for the noob question, just want to make sure I got this straight.

It will restore everything 100%. You also have the option to restore other partitions separate, system, boot, and the most important , data.
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TeamERA said:
It will restore everything 100%. You also have the option to restore other partitions separate, system, boot, and the most important , data.
Sent from a phone with kNOw CIQ ...
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This is what I assumed, thank you for the confirmation!

Here is a follow up question:
If I do a Titianium Backup for apps and sys data. Then I flash a new ROM, I usually do a Titanium restore of both Sys and App data ... It gets me up and running the quickest.
1.) Is this safe, or will sys data mess with the ROM
2.) Is there a better, more supportable way to do this?

RubenRybnik said:
Here is a follow up question:
If I do a Titianium Backup for apps and sys data. Then I flash a new ROM, I usually do a Titanium restore of both Sys and App data ... It gets me up and running the quickest.
1.) Is this safe, or will sys data mess with the ROM
2.) Is there a better, more supportable way to do this?
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1) It's always best NOT to restore system data when flashing a new rom. All your system data is specific to the rom you are flashing, so you don't want anything to conflict with the new data you are using now. Will cause a lot of problems in the long run.
2) TB is the best way to restore apps and apps+data that I know of. MyBackUp Pro is another good one, but TB works best for me. I'm sure there are others in the market also.
And I moved this to the Q&A section.

Well, this is what I thought too in fact I rooted my phone, installed CWM and the next step I performed was a nandroid backup thinking I could get my stock setup back if I ever wanted it. All was good. Then I flashed for a while and found a setup I liked and before proceeding I did another nandroid. THEN a while later I got to a point were I found myself, for time purposes wanting to fall back to my second backup so I thought: "hey, lets try restoring from this nandroid file I so maticulously spent time creating"!
That's when, for me at least, this whole nandroid Backup/Restore exercise falls on its face. Because when I tried to restore the backup I made it gave me a MD5 error..and I know there's a workaround that you can use by modifying the file I think that's basically what your doing? I didn't try it, I figured if the file needed to be modified before it could be restored what was the point anyway.? I just used my plan B which was Titanium Backup.
Anyway I keep my eyes open for an answer to this mystery, I think it has to do with the different CWM versions from one ROM to the next? Still not sure though?
Oh and hopefully this post wont just get rudely deleted like my first post on the same subject did? I made the same mistake you have by posting in the "General" area instead of the Q&A section!

the only time I have had a Android fail for md5 was when I changed the name of the backup. so maybe that's what you did?

RubenRybnik said:
So heres a noob question.
If I use (Rouge currently) to do a "backup" under options. And then start flashing ROMs, if I restore that backup I did, does that get me 100% back to the point of when I did the backup? Meaning, it restores -everything- like it never happened?
I've always wondered this, so if I'm flashing things, I can always get back to my fully stable setup exactly like it never happened by restoring? Or does the backup via Rouge( or CWM, or whatever ) only back certain things and I'll have to do more setup after restoring to get back up and running exactly like I had the phone before?
Sorry for the noob question, just want to make sure I got this straight.
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I have done many restores and everything comes back just like it was before.
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RubenRybnik said:
Here is a follow up question:
If I do a Titianium Backup for apps and sys data. Then I flash a new ROM, I usually do a Titanium restore of both Sys and App data ... It gets me up and running the quickest.
1.) Is this safe, or will sys data mess with the ROM
2.) Is there a better, more supportable way to do this?
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I only use Titanium backup to backup and restore specific apps on my phone. I use CWM for the system.

patrao_n said:
the only time I have had a Android fail for md5 was when I changed the name of the backup. so maybe that's what you did?
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nope. I followed step by step...pretty hard to mess it up with qbking77 video's? Is there any other possible reason, you can think of?..and really, how many people test out thier restores? I'm just wondering?

Just one quick point of clarification regarding the Nandroid backup/restore. From what I've read, the restore will bring back your kernel and ROM but NOT the modem version. If the modem is important to you you'll have to flash that back separately.

Magicspell said:
Just one quick point of clarification regarding the Nandroid backup/restore. From what I've read, the restore will bring back your kernel and ROM but NOT the modem version. If the modem is important to you you'll have to flash that back separately.
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Good point ... Thanks to everyone for the replies, got a much better understanding on the backup/restore process in both cwm and titanium now ) Thanks!
One more question about the MD5 ... So you can not change the name of the backup of CWM? I didn't think name change would effect how MD5 is generated.

RubenRybnik said:
Here is a follow up question:
If I do a Titianium Backup for apps and sys data. Then I flash a new ROM, I usually do a Titanium restore of both Sys and App data ... It gets me up and running the quickest.
1.) Is this safe, or will sys data mess with the ROM
2.) Is there a better, more supportable way to do this?
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You can also use your latest nandroid back up to restore data. I just tried this as a test with my wife's phone (i also did a separate back up in TB just in case) and it works well.
She was on one of Calks ROMs, and I wanted to switch her to the bare version of the ROM. I wiped data/cache/dalvik, installed the bare rom and rebooted. Once booted, I verified everything was gone (apps, contacts, sms, settings, ect). Then I went back to CWM and went to back up and restore->advanced restore-> restore data. When I booted back up, all her apps, contacts, sms, settings were back. I guess this would be a quick and dirty way to restore your stuff when jumping between a lot of ROMS.

s9amme said:
You can also use your latest nandroid back up to restore data. I just tried this as a test with my wife's phone (i also did a separate back up in TB just in case) and it works well.
She was on one of Calks ROMs, and I wanted to switch her to the bare version of the ROM. I wiped data/cache/dalvik, installed the bare rom and rebooted. Once booted, I verified everything was gone (apps, contacts, sms, settings, ect). Then I went back to CWM and went to back up and restore->advanced restore-> restore data. When I booted back up, all her apps, contacts, sms, settings were back. I guess this would be a quick and dirty way to restore your stuff when jumping between a lot of ROMS.
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So just to be clear ... "Restore Data" in CWM is just Apps and Apps data, no system data is restored correct?

RubenRybnik said:
So just to be clear ... "Restore Data" in CWM is just Apps and Apps data, no system data is restored correct?
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Yes on apps and data.

ICS update without full wipe

Hi,
excuse, my english is very rusty.
I've IceColdSandwich v 8.6-AOKP on my DHD.
Unfortunately my Camera app doesn't work.
Because of that, I would update to v.8.8, but I've configured my home screen very good for me.
Therefore I want to keep this configuration. So, I don't wanna lose this configuration of the home screens.
Is it possible to jump to v8.8 without full wipe?
If so, what steps do I have to?
Thank you.
Hans

firestone3112 said:
Hi,
excuse, my english is very rusty.
I've IceColdSandwich v 8.6-AOKP on my DHD.
Unfortunately my Camera app doesn't work.
Because of that, I would update to v.8.8, but I've configured my home screen very good for me.
Therefore I want to keep this configuration. So, I don't wanna lose this configuration of the home screens.
Is it possible to jump to v8.8 without full wipe?
If so, what steps do I have to?
Thank you.
Hans
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Yes, you can dirty flash the 8.8 ICECOLD. ("dirty" means without wipe.. so just flash.if you have a custom rom my guess is you know how to)
But I'd recommend to do a backup for any case. And than try to flash the 8.8. (again, I guess you know how, if not , ask.)
You can also perform a system backup with titanium\mybackup , but its not advices.
But again perform a NAND backup . If something will go wrong you'll have a working and configured version .
good luck

Hi tripleR,
what means NAND?
I have already made ​​a backup with Titanium. I have backuped "save all new user- and systemfiles & new Versions".
Is this ok?
THX

A NAND backup is performed from recovery and takes a single backup of the whole system. If something goes wrong, you can restore the NAND backup and you will be back to exactly the same point you were at when you took the backup. If you try 8.8 and it doesn't work, just restore the backup and you'll be back on 8.6.
A backup with titanium backs up apps and settings but runs from the ROM itself. If you are performing system changes then titanium may not be able to restore the necessary settings, so you may be stuck with the problem.

It means, that you should do a backup in your recovery. (You should always have one, because if something goes wrong, you can always restore this backup from your recovery).
I have used Titanium backup for a complete restore aswell.
But you should make sure, that your ROM is ok with this. ( I think there are ROMS, that don´t recommend this).
If you just switch the Version of the Rom, Titanium backup should work.
I did a complete wipe and restored with TB and it worked.

ok, but how I can take a NAND backup?
Can I take this in ClockworkMOD Recovery menu -> backup and restore -> backup?
If so, what is path to the backup? sdcard root?
Backups the NAND backup all apps and settings (e.g. home screen)
Thank you very much.

firestone3112 said:
Hi tripleR,
what means NAND?
I have already made ​​a backup with Titanium. I have backuped "save all new user- and systemfiles & new Versions".
Is this ok?
THX
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It might be, but NAND is for sure. and it brings your rom to the point as you left it.
1. go to recovery and do a backup.
2. dirty flash the 8.8 .
if everything all right your ok.
if anything going wrong at any point and you dont like it go to 3
3. flash the new rom with full wipe.
4.restore settings with titanium
everything ok ? huuura .somthing wrong ? go to 5
5.restore the back up.

Exactly.
It is saved in your Clockworkmod file on the SD.
You can simply choose it from your recovery and install it again. (You should also consider switching to 4ext recovery, but i think clockwork does the job as well)

firestone3112 said:
ok, but how I can take a NAND backup?
Can I take this in ClockworkMOD Recovery menu -> backup and restore -> backup?
If so, what is path to the backup? sdcard root?
Backups the NAND backup all apps and settings (e.g. home screen)
Thank you very much.
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yes, ClockworkMOD Recovery menu -> backup and restore -> backup?
If so, what is path to the backup? sdcard root? sdcard\clockworkmod\backup
but you dont need it. when you'll go to restore it from the same place in recovery, in any point it will show it as it is.
And it back up all the rom exactly as it is. 1 to 1.

ok, I understand.
I take it now, but I am very anxious...
In german "I shut up the ass bake"
:fingers-crossed:
I will report.
Thank you very much

ohh yes, 4ext tool, that was what I had forgotten.
I think 4ext is better then ClockworkMod Recovery. Should I rather install and use this tool?
I am interested in the path of the backup, because I want to delete the backup afterwards?
It's not a good Iidea?
THX

firestone3112 said:
ohh yes, 4ext tool, that was what I had forgotten.
I think 4ext is better then ClockworkMod Recovery. Should I rather install and use this tool?
I am interested in the path of the backup, because I want to delete the backup afterwards?
It's not a good Iidea?
THX
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I like 4ext more than CWM. You can install it by getting the app either from the 4ext site or buying it from the Play Store; the app lets you flash the recovery.
The backup is saved in the sdcard in the clockworkmod folder. I recommend, though, that you keep the backup. If you ever have problems with your current setup, you can restore it. I always back up before flashing anything.

I'm done and it all works wonderfully.
Also the camera works very well now.
I love dirty flashing!!!
The Version is IceColdSandwich v 8.8-AOKP now.
Thank you very much, all.

firestone3112 said:
I'm done and it all works wonderfully.
Also the camera works very well now.
I love dirty flashing!!!
The Version is IceColdSandwich v 8.8-AOKP now.
Thank you very much, all.
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Congratulations! Be aware that, as a courtesy to the developer, don't report bugs in a dirty flash; if you have bugs in a dirty flash, do a clean flash and see if the bug is there, and only if it is should you report the bug.

ok, I'll do that but at the moment everything is working.
THX

[Q] TWRP questions

1) can you have more than one backup?( like a venom viper rom backup and a stock rom backup and android revolution backup?)
2) if you can have more than one backup can i basically switch from rom to rom, ( performing a factory reset then backing that preferred rom)
3) is there any way i can backup my apps on my phone to be restored when i install a new rom without having to pay, like titanium backup, you need to pay the pro version for dropbox.

nty123 said:
1) can you have more than one backup?( like a venom viper rom backup and a stock rom backup and android revolution backup?)
2) if you can have more than one backup can i basically switch from rom to rom, ( performing a factory reset then backing that preferred rom)
3) is there any way i can backup my apps on my phone to be restored when i install a new rom without having to pay, like titanium backup, you need to pay the pro version for dropbox.
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You can have as many backups as the phones memory can hold, and switch back and forth between them freeley with a full wipe in between (excluding the sdcard of course).
Check out nandroid manager on the market. It can pull your apps and their data from a nandroid backup and restore them to your current rom.

cmlusco said:
You can have as many backups as the phones memory can hold, and switch back and forth between them freeley with a full wipe in between (excluding the sdcard of course).
Check out nandroid manager on the market. It can pull your apps and their data from a nandroid backup and restore them to your current rom.
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ok cool, when i use nandroid backup to restore the apps from the nandroid backup will the apps still be on that backuped rom on twrp?

Yes it does not change the backup files in any way.

cmlusco said:
Yes it does not change the backup files in any way.
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ok cool thanks for your fast response.