If you go to a website with an embedded youtube video, the video won't show up unless you have flash lite turned on, which is awful quality.
Now afaik on other android phones, and indeed the iphone, if you go to a website with embedded youtube videos they show up in h.264 format, without the need for flash. Why has HTC disabled this? (or am I missing something)
Let me try this again in a while (on YouTube) but I have definitely watched flash vids within the browser many times (not on YouTube that I recall though). Poor quality at best, very grainy.
I haven't tried playing YouTube directly within the browser to date simply because I like it opening in the YouTube app better (I get the option to choose this).
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you're missing something.
most phones get redirected to m.youtube.com
some sites are still using flash 9, which flashlite can play.
if a site is using flash 10, then you're ****ed because flash 10 is only in beta and only on 2.2
It's probably the Flash Lite plugin and the normal Youtube plugin (like on other Android phones) don't work well together and HTC disabled the normal plugin.
You probably have to find a way to remove Flash Lite completely.
Or maybe you wait until there's a Froyo ROM available within a few days/weeks or so and flash this, to get the full Flash 10.1, which should work much better than Flash Lite.
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It's probably the Flash Lite plugin and the normal Youtube plugin (like on other Android phones) don't work well together and HTC disabled the normal plugin.
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I'm assuming the normal plugin is where it redirects YouTube URLs to the YouTube app? Because that's the most frustrating part about this flaw!
Yes normal is the redirection to the Youtube app.
It sounds like even with flash 10.1 you can only get to watch the h.264 version if you load that flash video, then double tap on it to bring up the youtube player.
I would prefer it to load the h.264 video by default, because it's always going to perform better than flash, no matter how hard adobe tries.
YouTube embedded vids are an exception for me in so far as not playing embedded, many other site vids are doing so in decent quality (as relative as that is). Indeed, tricking the browser and YouTube to think it's a Desktop or iPhone accessing it is simple as well as showing the Desktop view, but then, you'll just see a black area where the vid would be with a message by shockwave that "this type of content is not supported". It won't play which is odd for me due to other site vids at higher quality that do play.
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It sounds like even with flash 10.1 you can only get to watch the h.264 version if you load that flash video, then double tap on it to bring up the youtube player.
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Doing such a tap provokes the browser to give me the option of either playing the vid using the YouTube app or using HTC Flash app.
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Just use a different browser (Dolphin for example). The default browser (htc modified) does not allow it.
Suggestion:
Go to www.youtube.com/html5 and signup.
Make sure you're signed in on youtube.com on your mobile.
Try it now.
Just use a different browser (Dolphin for example). The default browser (htc modified) does not allow it.
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I use Xscope and Dolphin... they don't allow such embedded video through browser viewing on YouTube.
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pascanu said:
Just use a different browser (Dolphin for example). The default browser (htc modified) does not allow it.
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I could, but I don't really want to install another browser just to watch YouTube videos when I happen to come across one.
I think by loading skyfire is the only way you could view most videos in the way in which you say. But also the iphone cannot load videos from within its browser, only from its dedicated you tube player, and that has restrictions like nit being able to download to twitter or facebook etc. Some people are saying though that skyfire doesnt work fire them. Works a treat for me and plays 90 percent of videos that I stumble across.
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I think by loading skyfire is the only way you could view most videos in the way in which you say. But also the iphone cannot load videos from within its browser, only from its dedicated you tube player, and that has restrictions like nit being able to download to twitter or facebook etc. Some people are saying though that skyfire doesnt work fire them. Works a treat for me and plays 90 percent of videos that I stumble across.
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You can on the iPhone, the videos show u exactly where thy are embedded, nd then you tap them and they play.
Its stupid because so many websites use h.264 video now, which android does support, yet we can't watch them.
Not sure I follow.
I go to YouTube (the proper site) on the HTC browser, I tap on a video, it loads and plays. What am I doing right?
I go to YouTube (the proper site) on the HTC browser, I tap on a video, it loads and plays. What am I doing right?
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It is that simple actually.
The thing is videos are played in a Flash player, instead of the Youtube app. Some people want to have it play in the Youtube app.
I go to YouTube (the proper site) on the HTC browser, I tap on a video, it loads and plays. What am I doing right?
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It is that simple actually.
The thing is videos are played in a Flash player, instead of the Youtube app. Some people want to have it play in the Youtube app.
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The issue here is samac92 wanting YouTube videos to play embedded in the browser like his iPhone did, without using flash, which they don't. I have no issue with the default actions.
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Embedded in the browser? The iPhone can't do that.
You can change the Youtube site to see the HTML5 version. You can do that on the Desire, I guess you can also do it on the iPhone. But that's with the Youtube site itself.
Embedded in the browser?
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Then it's likely that I misunderstood what he is saying.
You can change the Youtube site to see the HTML5 version. You can do that on the Desire, I guess you can also do it on the iPhone. But that's with the Youtube site itself.
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What exactly changes if using HTML5 in the context of the video itself?
The stock vids the Flash app plays on YouTube are in FLV mostly, right? But when you download those vids, it offers the H.264 MP4 files. Does HTML5 allow the better H.264 MP4 vid file to be played in the YouTube app through streaming?
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Is there an app? Or do you have to use the touch Youtube site?
from what i've read, the first time you visit a youtube clip, it will ask you to download an extension, and after this it will play it like would any other video. it's not a seperate application persay, but merely just an extension to IE to allow you to play the youtube clips.
I could be wrong on this, but I have seen videos of youtube playing, so it's definitely there.
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from what i've read, the first time you visit a youtube clip, it will ask you to download an extension, and after this it will play it like would any other video. it's not a seperate application persay, but merely just an extension to IE to allow you to play the youtube clips.
I could be wrong on this, but I have seen videos of youtube playing, so it's definitely there.
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I just read on Wikipedia it will run it in a sort of media player app, but they state that Adobe Flash 10.1 is on the way so this could be improved, or hell, there is the possibility updates will bring Youtube apps and better support.
There is built-in support for viewing the videos, but Google will need to develop a separate Youtube app if you want the off-browser experience.
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There is built-in support for viewing the videos, but Google will need to develop a separate Youtube app if you want the off-browser experience.
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Chances are that Google are already working on an application for YouTube.
App in Marketplace that plays Youtube over 3g is craptastic, horrible quality over 3g. Seriously over 3g the quality is worse than on a Blackberry. WTF MS?
Microsoft doesn't own YouTube, so I dunno why you're asking them.
And the quality is probably poor because it's playing 240 or 360p version of the videos instead of HQ.
That's why Google needs to release a YouTube App.
Microsoft has more important things to worry about, like, the actual operating system.
The youtube experience on WP7 is amazing.. its the first phone i ever used that didn't require a full fledged app. I sort of like it that m.youtube.com works out of the box and there isn't "an app for that" - with that being said, people are free to use the youtube api and make their own apps and google may do just that. However with m.youtube.com the quality for me is amazing. I don't watch it over 3g since AT&T rapes us with 3g bandwidth costs but over wifi the quality is beautiful. M.youtube.com also works with your login id so you can easily play your favorite and surf the website. It isn't a pretty package, but hell, sometimes its better that the web integration works this well rather than waiting for a required app
Apparently the youtube app adjusts the video settings if not on wifi. Which doesn't make sense since my 3g connection can more than handle youtube....
Maybe contact the developer and see if we can get settings adjustments.
edit: nevermind, it lists microsoft as the developer so I guess maybe an update will help?
I've noticed on a few forum based websites when people imbed video clips such as youtube ones, I can't play them.
They either appear as a blank area which does nothing when I click on it or I just get an egg timer come up but the video never loads.
Only happens on my Desire and not on my laptop.
Phones arn't properly built to really play embedded video. Skyfire does play it a lot better than all other browsers but the website also needs to optimize it for phones but they don't. This isn't an issue as such, just something that needs to be addressed.
Thanks very much for the reply.
I noticed yesterday that even when I click on a link to a youtube clip (an address not just an imbedded video link) it seems to simply take me to a main youtube menu screen with a number of clips on it but not the actual clip I was linking to?!!
Anyone any ideas why that might be?
Download Miren Browser from the market en make sure you have flash installed. Then it should work
Then set the user agent to Default browser or Chrome. This way you can also view clips that are disabled for mobile view.
Since the most recent OTA YouTube videos played in the YouTube app are nothing short or miraculous. HD video loads almost instantly and rarely stutters or lags. Sadly, embedded videos don't enjoy the same performance. They can take a long time to load, hang, stutter and sometimes lock up the whole browser.
Any ideas on what is happening here and how to improve it? This device is clearly capable or impeccable streaming. Where is the bottleneck?
* I am using latest version of Dolphin Browser which will play embedded Flash. Of course problem could be Dolphin itself or Flash version they are using.
P.S. Is there an app which will allow us to automatically start any embedded YouTube videos in the YouTube app as opposed to the YouTube web page?
As a kind of sidenote to this I'll bring your attention to the Flipboard app. It's great for reading any genre of news you set it for, and it's smooth as silk to skip through its pages, I only use it for 'android news' really. But you can also have one of it's feeds as your YouTube account, all your subscription videos, favorites etc are there (only thing you can't do is search). To me it's an even better experience than the YouTube app itself, it looks a lot more polished with better presentation. It's well worth a try.
When I use multi-window mode on my Galaxy S with Netflix and any other app, Netflix will pause when I use the other app. This is frustrating because I can't watch a show while checking Facebook, for example (which is the whole point of the multi-window feature). Is there a workaround for this? If not, can someone give me some practical applications for this feature? I've got some in mind, but I'm curious to see what others have used it for.
I have searched for a work around myself and unfortunatly even with root and with the far superior multitasking that TWDetox uses I have found no way to keep netflix playing while multitasked. I think this behavior is intentional from netflix so you don't "miss a moment" but yea it is annoying.
As for uses for the multitask I use it with almost every other video program and it works beautifully. Aside from that the usual use of looking something up while answering an email so I can easily copy and paste. Also using the open in annother app option on web videos lets most play in the built in video player that can be multitasked over any (yes any even without root) app. This makes watching a video while working on something else an easy experience. Add in a Upnp player type app that allows rendering to the player of your choice and even network attached storage videos can play overtop of any app.