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Any adaptors that will allow me to use proper 3.5 inch headphone jack in place of the mini USB ones ( i dont like the in ear phones) checked ebay and couldnt see anything?
you want get one of these http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=142090 - Mike
Ouch, that thing is both horribly badly designed and prohibitively expensive- it's going to stick out what looks like an inch by itself, most headphone plugs will add another inch on top of that- I need something that fits flush with the bottom of the phone (comes out at a right angle) AND supplies an input for the charger. One can only dream!
The orbit would make a great on-mains Wifi internet radio if such a gubbin existed- hook up some speakers, start TCPMP, sorted!
in which case if you don't like wires stop messing around and get a set of A2DP compatible headphones - the quality is very good, but far more costly than a cable addaptor - the choice is yours - Mike
Might have been worth while if I didn't use an iPod for all my portable audio needs- have you seen any A2DP compatible speakers around?
Looks like there are hacks out there, but no official products, the combination really would just turn the Orbit into an incredibly expensive Wifi radio! But where's the fun in just going out and buying a proper one!
Have a look at the products made by Parrot there are a few Bluetooth audio add on boxes, I fail to see the relevance to WiFi?? as the A2DP profile is Bluetooth - it even works on the T-Mobile MDA-CIII which has no WiFi - Mike
I say wifi radio because I listen to internet radio stations around the house using the Orbit, and the ol' tinternet comes via the wifi doohickey!
A2DP is, of course, a bluetooth profile and would be the method over which I get decent sounding audio from the Orbit to some speakers whilst still having the Orbit plugged into mains so the battery doesn't get sucked dry... that said I think the Orbit will last a good few hours streaming internet radio, although I have yet to put that to the test.
My other solution would be, as mentioned above, an adaptor that allows both the charger AND headset to be plugged in- I can't see this as being technically impossible.
With a brief cursory investigation I have discovered, I think, that the headset uses a proprietary 6-pin connection on the opposite side of the mini-usb connector. The headphones do not use the 4-pin standard mini-usb connector on the other side, but a connector that uses both should be reasonably simple to produce. Ergo it should be childs play for a third party to produce an Artemis dock that contains not only a connection to USB but a standard 3.5mm amplified microphone socket alongside a standard 3.5mm amplified stero audio jack... not to mention a button on the front of the dock for picking up calls and a volume slider if you really wanted them.
Call me crazy, but I want one of those!
You could try this
http://www.expansys.com/htc/p_htc_item.aspx?i=145066
Might do the trick even if it is a bit long
Rich
Dear lord! You've made my day! Hmmm, a little jiggery pokery and I might even be able to incorporate that into a dock but it'll be fantastic for charging and listening to net radio at work- takes that little extra load off my desktop PC.
Cheers!
Glad I could help
richiev4 said:
You could try this
http://www.expansys.com/htc/p_htc_item.aspx?i=145066
Might do the trick even if it is a bit long
Rich
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Hi,
Does anyone know if the above would work with a set of mini stereo speakers with a 3.5mm headphone jack (like the walkman speakers i used to have, back in the day...) to listen to the FM radio while charging the phone from mains? Or would you still need the headphones plugged into get any FM reception?
Daft question maybe, but I wondered whether the device would just use the speaker wires as an antenna instead of the headphone wires?
It will work fine, I am going to use mine to connect my orbit to my home stereo and charge it at the same time.
Rich
2.5mm 3 pole jack plug
Hi,
Anybody know of an Artemis mini usb to 2.5mm 3 pole jack plug adapter which allows the connection to deliver audio and microphone capability ?
I would like to connet my Artemis/Orbit to the Autocom intercom system on my motorcycle . This uses a lead with a 2.5mm jack plug at the phone end and a 3.5mm jack at the Autocom system end. Both are 3 pole.
Thanks
P.S. hope you don't mind me jumping in your postings
http://www.expansys.com/s.aspx
try doing a search for "2.5mm"
A very good Items for the Artemis on EbaY :
look :
http://cgi.ebay.fr/FOR-ORANGE-SPV-E...ryZ14419QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
2.5mm 3 pole jack plug adatper
I think I've found exactly what I'm looking for at:
http://igonemobile.com/products/html/61315310.html
I've got one on order and I'll let you know if it works.
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Hi,
Anybody know of an Artemis mini usb to 2.5mm 3 pole jack plug adapter which allows the connection to deliver audio and microphone capability ?
I would like to connet my Artemis/Orbit to the Autocom intercom system on my motorcycle . This uses a lead with a 2.5mm jack plug at the phone end and a 3.5mm jack at the Autocom system end. Both are 3 pole.
Thanks
P.S. hope you don't mind me jumping in your postings
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Is this so you can listen to music from the Orbit? I've had difficulty on my bike with this...music cuts out and wont restart after phone call is over. In the end, I bought the Autocom bluetooth dongle and now bluetooth the Orbit to the bike. I get phone calls and GPS just fine, but I use a wired iPod for music.
cegmawr said:
I think I've found exactly what I'm looking for at:
http://igonemobile.com/products/html/61315310.html
I've got one on order and I'll let you know if it works.
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Does this support the Artemis? It isn't in the list....
There was a posting for the mini USB PinOut some Time ago. Look in the wiki Section to find it. Here is what they showed up with.
Maybe This will Help someone to build their own Adapter or whatsoever.
Greetings
Jabami
so what was the general concensus with using Autocom? Did the 2.5mm jack work?
I want to avoid using the bluetooth option on autocom, since I might just as well go for a Scala bluetooth headset instead if the jack doesnt work...
Hi,
I plan on using my desire in the car and playing music through my car stereo's aux input. But I dont really want to be picking up the phone to skip forward and back through tracks. The headset that ships with the phone has great inline controls that work with spotify. So I was wondering if anyone knows of a company that makes a cable that has a 3.5mm jack at both ends (i.e. one end into the phone, the other into the car stereo) but also has inline controls. I could then find a way of mounting the inline control somewhere on the dash.
Any advice is greatly appreciated.
Paddy
I have done this in the past by cutting the headphone ends off a cable and then soldering this to a 3.5mm jack plug available from electronics shops etc, not too much of a job to do, but will prob mean you have to find another htc headset with the controls if you want to keep your original headset
Haven't seen this no, but it should be easy to fix.
Either just solder the cable yourself, or just buy a 3,5 to 3,5 cable and insert it. Should solve your issues. Just ordered the Griffin SmartTalk which has inline controls and a 3,5mm jack output myself, it had good reviews for the iPhone and should work well with the my Desire aswell.
Zappza said:
Just ordered the Griffin SmartTalk which has inline controls and a 3,5mm jack output myself, it had good reviews for the iPhone and should work well with the my Desire aswell.
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Let us know how you get on with it please.
Hello all ,
Is there a way to get an audio line-out from the Galaxy Nexus, either using an adapter or a docking station? I'm not looking for a solution like the one offered by the Samsung Galaxy S2's car dock (which streams bluetooth audio from the phone to the dock, then the dock turns the bluetooth streaming to analog audio through a 3.5mm port) but rather something like an adapter for the MHL port or from the docking station.
Appreciate all the help!
The obvious solution (at least to me) is to plug into the headphone jack. You could also use either the media dock or MHL adapter in conjunction with an HDMI-to-analog adapter such as the one linked below:
http://www.amazon.com/HDMI-RCA-comp...OQPU/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1321905031&sr=8-2
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The obvious solution (at least to me) is to plug into the headphone jack. You could also use either the media dock or MHL adapter in conjunction with an HDMI-to-analog adapter such as the one linked below:
http://www.amazon.com/HDMI-RCA-comp...OQPU/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1321905031&sr=8-2
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He's asking for a line out solution because it will bypass the internal headphone amp that is utilized when the 3.5mm port is used. If you're plugging the phone into speakers or a sound system that way you'll get much better sound.
If the mhl -> HDMI cable adapter carries both audio and video, you could use an hdmi breakout adapter to split the digital audio. It depends on the HDMI output capabilities of the phone and the acceptability of digital audio for your needs.
Edit: would no doubt be a cumbersome solution. It all comes down to your usage scenario for the output.
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Thank you vespoid, ardabey.
What OJ in Compton said, I'm looking to bypass the internal headphone amp, not sure if there are any details on the car dock or desk dock, I hope 3rd party manufacturers come up with something, any solutions are welcome.
Ali
Never thought about this, but a contactless dock with HDMI out directly to the AMP = audio bliss. Thanks to the forum for letting me see the obvious
Bumping this thread...has anyone successfully done this? I want line out audio for my car's 3.5mm AUX input - had it with my ipod and it sounded much better than through the headphone jack, as well the convenience of not having to maintain two volumes.
Hoping the official car dock that uses the 3 pin connector and has a 3.5 out would do this, but I'm worried it will just use BT to transmit the audio to the dock like I read the Nexus One dock did.
I wish too that the NG had line level out.
I think it's a limitation of the hardware. I think Apple is the online one that really uses line level out via it's dock connector.
I hope someday Google will use some sort of line level out on their reference hardware or built support directly into a newer OS.
I remember my old Dell DJ had line level out. Soooooo much better.
There is nothing wrong with the 3.5mm output sound quality wise.
Trying to drive headphone-like impedance (lower) with a line out isn't the best idea, but driving higher impedance inputs like your car deck isn't that bad as long as you let the amps do the "work" of boosting the volume and not your phone. While not optimal, the decrease in sound quality shouldn't be very noticeable.
The main advantage of the digital audio though USB (what apple does) IMO is that it eliminates the need to have both the USB plugged in to charge and the 3.5 mm cord for audio. It also allows song data to be shared and device control from the speaker/head unit. Good setups will recognize most android devices as mass USB storage and provide the same functionality, but I'm not sure how the MTS on the GN will affect this.
I would wait and see how the audio quality is from the dock. Even if it is bluetooth, the audio quality may not be that bad.
Lithoss said:
There is nothing wrong with the 3.5mm output sound quality wise.
Trying to drive headphone-like impedance (lower) with a line out isn't the best idea, but driving higher impedance inputs like your car deck isn't that bad as long as you let the amps do the "work" of boosting the volume and not your phone. While not optimal, the decrease in sound quality shouldn't be very noticeable.
The main advantage of the digital audio though USB (what apple does) IMO is that it eliminates the need to have both the USB plugged in to charge and the 3.5 mm cord for audio. It also allows song data to be shared and device control from the speaker/head unit. Good setups will recognize most android devices as mass USB storage and provide the same functionality, but I'm not sure how the MTS on the GN will affect this.
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The problem is, that if the head unit supports MTP then yes it can read the device like mass-storage, thats fine, but it doesn't allow you to stream media from radio apps, youtube and turn-by-turn directions from gps, this is what we are looking for...
technically it's not sending analog audio output through the USB, its just reading the stored media on the phone.
I have read that samsung phones are able to accomplish sending analog audio through the USB while charging, with the correct resistance values (adapter) or possibly with software pointing the audio in that direction (for example code build into the framework/API)
this is one major thing that Android lacks over iPhone, this problem should be addressed ASAP. I'm hoping CM9 might be able to find a solution for this.
I agree, i hope they fix this soon toi. It would make the development of accessories much easier for all android phones. Seems like a no brainer but I guess Google has other priorities...
A feature request for Android 4.0 to enable USB audio:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=24614
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A feature request for Android 4.0 to enable USB audio:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=24614
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Just starred this, if the hardware is able to do that I find it completely stupid that they do not allow it.
Smartphones audio amps are not exactly famous for being top-quality so having this possibility would be great.
Thanks. The lack of this feature is ridiculous/mind-boggling/suprising.
Well, if you were waiting for the card dock to solve your problems... it doesn't. Plugging into the dock's "line out" gets you amp driven sound. I really do not understand why this is such an issue for Android. When I plug somoething into my 3 year old Nokia smartphone a window pops up for me to choose headphones, headset or line out. Why can't ICS offer the option and if in the car dock, default to line out? A USB solution is not going to help if you are using the car dock.
Juvenall said:
A feature request for Android 4.0 to enable USB audio:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=24614
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Yes, most def. I want to use several USB dacs on hand. Off for some op amp rollin'.
Edit: The pogo pin dock has a 3.5mm analog/digital output, FYI
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Edit: The pogo pin dock has a 3.5mm analog/digital output, FYI
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Which if I understand correctly uses Bluetooth to transmit compressed audio from the phone to the dock, then delivers it through the 3.5mm jack. Why not just have a digital signal go through the USB port!?
ali87 said:
Which if I understand correctly uses Bluetooth to transmit compressed audio from the phone to the dock, then delivers it through the 3.5mm jack. Why not just have a digital signal go through the USB port!?
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actually the pogo pin transfers the digitial audio and the dock decodes it into analog to the 3.5mm output
Hi,
I want to have only 1 plug to insert in the Samsung Galaxy S2 to have:
- Audio output
- AND power charging
This is possible by using the micro-usb port of the Samsung Galaxy S2.
This is how the official Samsung docks works: http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/ECR-D1D3BEGSTA )
But I am not looking for a dock, I just want a cable ! (it is much more convenient than a dock)
This cable would be like this:
Code:
|---------> Audio output jack
Micro-USB <---|
|---------> Standard USB (type A)
Where can I buy such a cable ?
Regards, Chris
I guess you have to make one yourself. It shouldn't be too difficult.
You just have to solder a 365K resistor to the ID pin of the micro usb plug. Then solder The data pins and the ground pin to a 3.5mm socket. At last you need to solder the +5V pin and the ground pin to the USB plug.
I have to say I like the Idea of such a cable, I think i'm goibg to make one.
I got the official vehicle dock and the sound coming from the line out isn't so good compared to the headphone jack. I'm wondering if the components within the dock is to blame or the phone itself (kernel?)
If the OP does find a cable that does the job I'd be keen to know how it turns out.
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I guess you have to make one yourself. It shouldn't be too difficult.
You just have to solder a 365K resistor to the ID pin of the micro usb plug. Then solder The data pins and the ground pin to a 3.5mm socket. At last you need to solder the +5V pin and the ground pin to the USB plug.
I have to say I like the Idea of such a cable, I think i'm goibg to make one.
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I am very surprised, no one is manufacturing such a cable. I am sure there is a big business for it.
I have never soldered anything. It is possible to make 2, one for me as well ? I would be very happy! I am based in Paris.
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I got the official vehicle dock and the sound coming from the line out isn't so good compared to the headphone jack. I'm wondering if the components within the dock is to blame or the phone itself (kernel?)
If the OP does find a cable that does the job I'd be keen to know how it turns out.
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The quality should be good, as Samsung is selling a docking stations to output the sound on a hifi system. Bad sound quality is not noticeable on basic headphones, but on a hifi system that would be catastrophic (so Samsung would not sell docking stations).
bricked_tab said:
I got the official vehicle dock and the sound coming from the line out isn't so good compared to the headphone jack. I'm wondering if the components within the dock is to blame or the phone itself (kernel?)
If the OP does find a cable that does the job I'd be keen to know how it turns out.
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You need an amp to improve the sound from the line out since it is unfiltered and not treated through the phone's yamaha pre amp.
chiefroastbeef said:
You need an amp to improve the sound from the line out since it is unfiltered and not treated through the phone's yamaha pre amp.
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Thanks a million chiefroastbeef! Luckily I have a cmoy amp and man did it make a difference. I'm keeping this post short because I don't want to hijack the thread any further so thanks again chiefroastbeef
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Thanks a million chiefroastbeef! Luckily I have a cmoy amp and man did it make a difference. I'm keeping this post short because I don't want to hijack the thread any further so thanks again chiefroastbeef
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Ahh, the cmoy, very cool headphone amp. I have a DIY AMB mini3 with an Alien dac connected to my computer. Now with the info from this thread, I really want line out! Though I must admit, 2.3.5 with poweramp sounds really good.
Ok the Cable is finished, when plugging the cable in the phone automatically enters dock mode and outputs audio via the micro-USB port.
Quality is OK I guess (I will compare it to the quality of the 3.5mm headphone-jack output), but keep in mind that I'm not an audiophile .
The build quality of my cable is not great, but it was more or less just a proof of concept.
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Ok the Cable is finished, when plugging the cable in the phone automatically enters dock mode and outputs audio via the micro-USB port.
Quality is OK I guess (I will compare it to the quality of the 3.5mm headphone-jack output), but keep in mind that I'm not an audiophile .
The build quality of my cable is not great, but it was more or less just a proof of concept.
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That looks very promising, thank you for sharing!
Keep in mind, line out is unfilter, unamp audio output, so the sound will sound a bit bland. One must plug an amp into it to "color" the sound.
Good on you, wurzelsepp3. As for the audio quality between the headphone jack and line out I'm pretty sure you'll notice it but it shouldn't be a problem if you just want the functionality.
I just tested the cmoy amp in my car and it sounds good now.
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Ok the Cable is finished, when plugging the cable in the phone automatically enters dock mode and outputs audio via the micro-USB port.
Quality is OK I guess (I will compare it to the quality of the 3.5mm headphone-jack output), but keep in mind that I'm not an audiophile .
The build quality of my cable is not great, but it was more or less just a proof of concept.
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Excellent !!
I need such a cable too !
Can you post how you built it ? I am not good at electronics.
I guess you have taken:
- a USB (type A) cable
- a jack cable
- and a micro-USB
and then cut all of them to just keep the plugs. But then how did you joined the different cables together and how did you installed the resistor ?
wurzelsepp3 said:
Ok the Cable is finished, when plugging the cable in the phone automatically enters dock mode and outputs audio via the micro-USB port.
Quality is OK I guess (I will compare it to the quality of the 3.5mm headphone-jack output), but keep in mind that I'm not an audiophile .
The build quality of my cable is not great, but it was more or less just a proof of concept.
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Hai wurzelsepp3,
I like your cable could you please post more photos of cable end pins and give more details of connection diagram, it will help us to make one.
Thanks n advance
wurzelsepp3, can you send the description of you cable.
Regards
I made a little paint drawing to show the wiring I hope it helps.
I will try to answer any questions .
Thanks for Image
Hi wurzelsepp3,
Thanks for your Sketch, please confirm whether it is same for car dock mode and desktop mode only by change of resister value and please confirm following my comments
1) Is it possible to charge the phone as per your sketch through PC usb port and via car charger out.
2) Is it possible to hear songs from stereo socket out through stereo headphone.
3) Is it possible to connected car audio system/external sound system because i saw another link like this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-1249775.html
http://imghostr.me/images/5p7yC.jpg
http://imghostr.me/images/gs7Sp.jpg
http://imghostr.me/images/geac.jpg
Thanks n regards
Safeed
wurzelsepp3 said:
I made a little paint drawing to show the wiring I hope it helps.
I will try to answer any questions .
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safeed said:
Hi wurzelsepp3,
Thanks for your Sketch, please confirm whether it is same for car dock mode and desktop mode only by change of resister value and please confirm following my comments
1) Is it possible to charge the phone as per your sketch through PC usb port and via car charger out.
2) Is it possible to hear songs from stereo socket out through stereo headphone.
3) Is it possible to connected car audio system/external sound system because i saw another link like this
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Yes the only difference between car and desk-dock mode is the resistor value.
1) Yes the USB-plugs only purpose in this setup is to supply power, so any charger will do the job
2) Yes, but you have to keep in mind that the sund coming out of the micro usb port isn't amplified, so sound quality and volume are rather low, so you might wanna use an external headphone amplifier
3) Yes, as car and external audio systems have a amplifier it should work quite well.
Would something like this work?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-ET-AUM3SBEBXAR-micro-USB-3-5mm-Male-Line-In-/250956064170?_trksid=p3286.m7&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D3%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D5051243939125627988
i will have 3 cables to sell on here for $25 by the end of the week. Let me know if people want them
Docking Station
Finally I made my own style 3 in 1 Dock station, includes Car dock, Home dock and auxiliary audio out with the help of selector switch. Conversion of car dock to home dock by sliding the selector switch,also possible to charge the phone from home or Car dock mode. Auxiliary audio sound is nice to hear and All items compacted in small case.
Thanks for all, to give me such idea and sketches.
Are all the micro-USB to 3.5mm jack you find on eBay the same? Do they have the same pinout/resistance required for use on the SGS2?
I'm looking at buying the overpriced desktop dock when it's available again, but I use a moshi moshi desktop phone since I'm on the phone all day quite frequently and holding it up to my ear kills me. (I don't like regular bluetooth headsets for a number of reasons as well.)
My question is simple: can someone with the dock (and 4.0.3+, apparently) test if a microphone-enabled headset works with that port? On the Nexus One, the port wasn't even physically able to take a 3.5mm with mic, so I still had to plug the phone into the top of the phone. On the desktop dock, that's impossible since the jack is concealed by the dock.
Thanks in advance!
Just looking at the dock pictures you can see it's the same as the Nexus One, it completely blocks the 3.5mm headphone jack.
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Just looking at the dock pictures you can see it's the same as the Nexus One, it completely blocks the 3.5mm headphone jack.
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That's because the dock has a headphone jack. But does that jack work with a microphone headset?
Apparently, they labeled that jack as headphone, no mention of mic or combo port, so i think we can assume it'snot supported.