Thinking of buying this phone on ebay (unlocked) to use with StraightTalk AT&T bands, I know it's possible but will I have to send the phone off somewhere to get the radio re-flashed? Several of the phones on ebay come unlocked.
Also I live on the edge of the network and I am using an Infuse 4g and get extremely flaky reception with BOTH the network and WIFI, compared to an old motorola phone, anyone report any problems with signal or WIFI antennae strength?
Jamister989 said:
Thinking of buying this phone on ebay (unlocked) to use with StraightTalk AT&T bands, I know it's possible but will I have to send the phone off somewhere to get the radio re-flashed? Several of the phones on ebay come unlocked.
Also I live on the edge of the network and I am using an Infuse 4g and get extremely flaky reception with BOTH the network and WIFI, compared to an old motorola phone, anyone report any problems with signal or WIFI antennae strength?
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I know with my my touch 4g I had better reception then with sg2. As for the flash to straight talk I have not tried it but I did flash evo4g to page plus and was not so hard so if you have some tech skills u should be fine
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Thinking of buying this phone on ebay (unlocked) to use with StraightTalk AT&T bands, I know it's possible but will I have to send the phone off somewhere to get the radio re-flashed? Several of the phones on ebay come unlocked.
Also I live on the edge of the network and I am using an Infuse 4g and get extremely flaky reception with BOTH the network and WIFI, compared to an old motorola phone, anyone report any problems with signal or WIFI antennae strength?
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If it comes unlocked from ebay it doesn't have to be shipped anywhere additional. It's already unlocked and ready for any GSM sim. As for the Infuse 4G, I couldn't answer. If the service area is ****ty it's gonna be ****ty.
Thanks Muff, I do live in a pretty ****ty service area, I may just end up sticking with a Motorola phone. Maybe I'm crazy but my previous Moto phone's have always had superior reception to other branded phone's I've seen. My infuse's WIFI get's 1 bar 20ft away where as my droid 1 had full bars, and although I cannot really compare the 2 phones on network, my buddies iPhone(at&t) can still get calls throughout my house where as I constantly lose signal mid-call. I just wish Moto wasn't so stingy with their bootloaders.
Hi All. Long time since I’ve posted but looking at getting a note 2 tomorrow.
Now I live in Australia and on the Optus network but using a cheap provider that at the moment only uses their 3G network.
At the moment I have a sim card setupfor the 3G network.,
At the moment Vaya don’t have access to the Optus 4G network (1800MHz frequency) but it is gonna happen.
Can I buy a LTE version and use my current sim and run on the 3G (H+ even) using my existing sim card and the 4G note 2?
Then when Vaya release their 4G plans I can grab a 4G sim (or is 4G just account and phone dependant??) and away I go?
I believe it shouldn’t be a problem as the phone still operates on the 3G network as if I bought a N7100 if 4G is not enabled. But it will use more power just having that chip sitting in there.
yes, it will work.
it will only work in 4g if a 4g network is supported from your carrier. otherwise it will revert to the fastest network from your carrier that is supported by the device, which in most cases is hsdpa.
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yes, it will work.
it will only work in 4g if a 4g network is supported from your carrier. otherwise it will revert to the fastest network from your carrier that is supported by the device, which in most cases is hsdpa.
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Thanks for your reply.
Now I've been searching everywhere for good analysis on the 3G and 4G battery comparison but there isn't much out there but personal thoughts. Well there is more on the S3 so maybe that is a good guideline.
So the 4G version with LTE turned on can only achieve half the screen on time of the 3G version. Wow that terrible. With LTE off it last about 7-8 hours screen time rather than closer to 10 hours to the 3 version.
Has anyone got some good links that compare the battery life between the two models? I can live with turning 4G off most of the time if it doesn't drain too much but I don't need the speed if it has a big toll on the battery life even with LTE turned off.
http://www.samsungupdate.com/tag/battery-life-3g-vs-4g-galaxy-note-2
Its touched on here but still not sure.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1979246
What are other people's US experiences, what type LTE do you get?
Google starting selling the Nexus 7 LTE in the Google Play store 130909 https://play.google.com/store/devic...cked_T_Mobile_SI?id=nexus_7_32gb_2013_lte_tmo
It comes with 30 days of T-Mobile LTE/HSPA. I confirmed with Google Play support that they are shipping the US version that has LTE bands 13 and 17. This means that in addition to T-Mobile LTE and HSPA, this will do the same on AT&T and also LTE on Verizon.
Google says it does not work with Verizon, but technically, it should. Verizon has a full LTE nationwide coverage on band 13. I am going to try my Verizon sim the day I get this thing. Then I'll be raiding the AT&T store for 30 days of LTE: fastest provider wins.
What are other people's US experiences, what type LTE do you get?
If you go Nexus 7 LTE 〉Settings 〉About Tablet 〉Status, Mobile network type indicates what connection you have, eg. LTE:13.
best test apps:
- Speed Test
- Open Signal
- Sensorly
- SignalCheck Lite
- Firebind (check for blocked ports, shouldn't be any)
Some blog posts:
Nexus 7 LTE for the US: http://blog.haraldrudell.com/2013/08/nexus-7-lte-future-of-mobility-nexus-7.html
US Open Access: http://blog.haraldrudell.com/2013/08/googles-got-balls.html
LTE Portability in the US: http://blog.haraldrudell.com/2013/09/4-13-17-are-magic-numbers-mobile-device.html
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Google says it does not work with Verizon, but technically, it should. Verizon has a full LTE nationwide coverage on band 13. I am going to try my Verizon sim the day I get this thing. Then I'll be raiding the AT&T store for 30 days of LTE: fastest provider wins.
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Source please?
It was supposed to work with Verizon, on LTE at least. I'm not going to order one if it doesn't.
It works with Verizon LTE not 3g
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Very interested to hear what happens when you pop in your Verizon SIM.
Actually someone already has: http://www.droid-life.com/2013/09/11/video-first-look-at-verizon-data-on-the-new-nexus-7-lte/
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Very interested to hear what happens when you pop in your Verizon SIM.
Actually someone already has: http://www.droid-life.com/2013/09/11/video-first-look-at-verizon-data-on-the-new-nexus-7-lte/
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In the comments on that video, a couple of people are noting that Verizon stores have refused to supply sim cards and activate Nexus 7 tablets, because "they're not in their system". I think the person that made the video just removed the sim from his phone and it worked. I want to get one of these and add it to my current plan for $10/month and share my current data plan. It's too bad Google and Verizon can't seem to get it together and explain how this works. I'll wait until there are no hoops to jump through. I wonder if the LTE only, no 3G restriction on Verizon is Google's way of forcing Verizon's hand. I don't think they're allowed to refuse a device that operates solely on LTE.
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In the comments on that video, a couple of people are noting that Verizon stores have refused to supply sim cards and activate Nexus 7 tablets, because "they're not in their system". I think the person that made the video just removed the sim from his phone and it worked. I want to get one of these and add it to my current plan for $10/month and share my current data plan. It's too bad Google and Verizon can't seem to get it together and explain how this works. I'll wait until there are no hoops to jump through. I wonder if the LTE only, no 3G restriction on Verizon is Google's way of forcing Verizon's hand. I don't think they're allowed to refuse a device that operates solely on LTE.
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I'm trying to activate one for my buddy on Verizon. It doesn't appear to be Verizon trying to be stubborn about it. It's more about technical limitations. Verizon devices need a serial number and a SIM ID to activate on their LTE network and the Nexus 7 only has a SIM ID that can be used. The serial number isn't recognized in Verizon's system because it's still a GSM device. So thus far, it looks like the method shown of using a SIM that's already activated is the only way of getting this going. Having its own dedicated number is a trickier matter.
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I'm trying to activate one for my buddy on Verizon. It doesn't appear to be Verizon trying to be stubborn about it. It's more about technical limitations. Verizon devices need a serial number and a SIM ID to activate on their LTE network and the Nexus 7 only has a SIM ID that can be used. The serial number isn't recognized in Verizon's system because it's still a GSM device. So thus far, it looks like the method shown of using a SIM that's already activated is the only way of getting this going. Having its own dedicated number is a trickier matter.
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Edited to add: Thanks for the reply and the information.
Well, that sucks.
As far as I know, Google advertised this as working with Verizon when it was launched. Now they're saying next to nothing about it.
So, if I want to activate this as an add-on tablet at $10/month, I have to buy the Nexus 7, some other used Verizon tablet off ebay, activate it and swap the SIM. I may be incorrect, but I'd bet you couldn't sell off the other tablet and let someone else activate it using this method, unless the SIM isn't attached to the serial number in Verizon's system.
No offense intended, but I believe this is Verizon being stubborn. The tablet obviously functions on their network, but they aren't willing to supply a SIM and simply activate it.
Please let us know if you're successful in getting it activated without swapping a SIM from some other device. I can't be the only one interested in getting this going, but I'm not going to order one until I know it works.
I seem to remember reading that with past devices, others have had success bringing in a tablet that's already active on some other account but without the SIM, and asking for a SIM to activate it.
Buy Verizon ipad mini. Activate sim. Return ipad mini. Win?
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Edited to add: Thanks for the reply and the information.
Well, that sucks.
As far as I know, Google advertised this as working with Verizon when it was launched. Now they're saying next to nothing about it.
So, if I want to activate this as an add-on tablet at $10/month, I have to buy the Nexus 7, some other used Verizon tablet off ebay, activate it and swap the SIM. I may be incorrect, but I'd bet you couldn't sell off the other tablet and let someone else activate it using this method, unless the SIM isn't attached to the serial number in Verizon's system.
No offense intended, but I believe this is Verizon being stubborn. The tablet obviously functions on their network, but they aren't willing to supply a SIM and simply activate it.
Please let us know if you're successful in getting it activated without swapping a SIM from some other device. I can't be the only one interested in getting this going, but I'm not going to order one until I know it works.
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No offense taken, though let me clarify what I meant in my post by it being a technical limitation.
The serial numbers on the Nexus 7 are for GSM devices (IMEI's starting with 35xxx). Verizon's system does not recognize these serial numbers to work on their network. The system looks for ESN numbers (usually starting with 99000xxx) for a CDMA network, then asks for the ICCID (SIM ID) for the LTE SIM card. The Nexus 7 doesn't have a CDMA radio in it at all, which Verizon's network still needs in a device for it to complete the activation process.
Once activated, that SIM can be moved into another compatible device and work beautifully as Droid Life showed already, but that's not the issue we're having. Your described scenario is what I'm going to try for my buddy this weeked, but I have a feeling it won't work.
I don't think d11dog11's suggestion won't work either A) because the iPad Mini uses a nano SIM (4FF), B) because when the iPad is returned, the system defaults to disconnecting the number that was activated on that device, and C) you'll still get nailed with a restocking fee.
Indeed, this sucks!
LTE Results are in
Here's my download experience from a downtown San Francisco rooftop:
T-Mobile USA LTE:
SpeedTest: 43 ms 8.39 down 1.23 up Mb/s
signal: -104 dBm 36 asu rsrq -9 dB
T-Mobile HSPA:
SpeedTest: 73 ms 9.03 down 0.78 up Mb/s
signal: -104 dBm 35 asu rsrq -8 dB
Verizon Wireless:
SpeedTest: 196 ms 0.481 0.265 Mb/s <<== SUCKS BIG TIME! 2G Speed?
Signal -73 dBm 67 asu -12 dB
Comcast Wi-Fi: 18 ms 27.274 7.880
T-Mobile is on the higher frequency that would give spottier coverage, but they are doing quite alright.
Verizon sucks ass. A year ago everybody but Verizon looked like clowns. Today (starting about six months ago) the clown is Andy MacLeod, CTO of the Verizon Wireless partnership. How could they possibly fail?
San Francisco is the most densely populated area outside Manhattan, and this dude needs to pay attention. If you stay up until 1 am on a weekday, Verizon might give you 8 Mb/s down. The sucky area is not only downtown, as a matter of fact, I don't now of a good area anymore. A year ago it was 18 Mb/s greatness 24/7. There's crazy talk of a high-capacity overlay on band 4, but we got none of that, and one might wonder how this can go on for months on end. I canceled the day I got the Nexus 7 LTE. Nexus 5 will support everyone but Verizon, i'll get that one, too: hello Sprint!
The included T-Mobile SIM is a broadband pass that gives you 30 days/2 GB of HSPA or LTE but no voice.
Sensorly, SignalChecker and Open Signal are not good for speed test, so stick with SpeedTest.
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Nexus 5 will support everyone but Verizon, i'll get that one, too: hello Sprint!
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One reason why it's less likely that Sprint will be supported on the same unlocked unit as GSM carriers: Sprint's LTE devices do not store the CDMA subcriber identity on the SIM card like Verizon does. Their Androids tend to have an internal non-removable SIM, and their iPhones have a SIM that only stores the LTE identity. So when two Verizon iPhone users swap SIMs, the phone numbers follow suit completely. When two Sprint iPhone users swap SIMs, the phone numbers remain on the devices but the LTE identities swap which must be confusing for the phone.
Nexus 5 on Sprint, AT&T and T-Mobile
The FCC publish on the Nexus 5 (LG D820) removes any doubt of it not being a Sprint phone. It’s a herkulean effort to support all their LTE bands, which I believe nobody has done yet. It quacks like an LG G2 but has a different display size from all other LG 8xx submissions. And then then was the KitKat leak, conveniently 2 days before the FCC published it, where there was an LG logo. Google must start shipping before Christmas, and September plus two months is November.
The likelihood that Google would put out a Sprint-only phone is zero.
The likelihood of Sprint kissing the feet of anyone putting out a Nexus phone on their network is really high.
The rest is engineering.
AT&T didn't work on LTE only HSPA+
I just bought hey Nexus 7 LTE from Best Buy yesterday.when I tried to activated through AT&T it activated but it only showed H in the signal strength menu bar. when I called AT&T customer supportTo provision it for LTE they said it wasn"t in their system and they wouldn't help me so I returned it.
needless to say I am very disappointed anybody else have the same issue?
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I just bought hey Nexus 7 LTE from Best Buy yesterday.when I tried to activated through AT&T it activated but it only showed H in the signal strength menu bar. when I called AT&T customer supportTo provision it for LTE they said it wasn"t in their system and they wouldn't help me so I returned it.
needless to say I am very disappointed anybody else have the same issue?
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That's strange, considering there's an AT&T option on Play Store. You returned the tablet or cancelled the SIM?
You could try ordering from Play Store instead with the bundled AT&T SIM. Maybe that one will be provisioned properly for LTE.
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Picked up the new Nexus 7 LTE (2013 edition) and popped in my Verizon micro-SIM. Everything worked great for a few days. Just got a notification in my tray asking me to register my device with the Verizon Network? I clicked the link, it opened my browser and went to some Verizon site, but the page didn't load. I couldn't receive/send any data or even pick up a signal.
When I removed and re-insert the SIM and rebooted the device, it would pick up a cellular signal for a few minutes, then would drop signal.
I put the SIM back in my GS3, it registered with the network and got signal on the phone. I then re-inserted the SIM into the Nexus 7 and have LTE service once again.
Anyone else have this problem?
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Picked up the new Nexus 7 LTE (2013 edition) and popped in my Verizon micro-SIM. Everything worked great for a few days. Just got a notification in my tray asking me to register my device with the Verizon Network? I clicked the link, it opened my browser and went to some Verizon site, but the page didn't load. I couldn't receive/send any data or even pick up a signal.
When I removed and re-insert the SIM and rebooted the device, it would pick up a cellular signal for a few minutes, then would drop signal.
I put the SIM back in my GS3, it registered with the network and got signal on the phone. I then re-inserted the SIM into the Nexus 7 and have LTE service once again.
Anyone else have this problem?
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Bump I'm wondering this same thing had mine one day but wandering how long they will let it work?
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Bump I'm wondering this same thing had mine one day but wandering how long they will let it work?
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I've had mine in my tabet for about the past 5 days. The only thing that has changed is when I login to my VZW account, it shows an Unknown device. However, it still works. I am planning to leave my sim in for as long as it will let me. Great tablet.
Hello,
I tried searching but for whatever reason I came up with absolutely nothing, nothing! Guess some things screwy with search or my account.
So I've used sprint for years now basically because its the only provider with towers in my area. I'm currently using a nexus 5 and recently started using a at&t gophone Sim in it when I go out of the county. I then bought a Nexus 4 to put the Sim card in but now I'm missing LTE which seems to be way faster that sprints and much more readily available. Heck hpsa+ is much faster than sprints LTE here when I go far enough to get sprint LTE.
Is it possible to but a LTE version of the nexus 7 and then root it with a ROM with a dialer and then pop my gophone sim in and use it through Bluetooth?
I don't think it supports cellular calls at all; AT&T also might flag it as a tablet.
You could try voip out with, if you have good T-Mobile reception, one of their tablet plans. They do allow SMS on them. You might be able to use Vonage with that number. I've paired them up just fine on a Samsung T869. You won't have any incoming calls or voicemail (maybe through Vonage?) but voip worked great for me on T-Mobile LTE.
Also, if you know anyone with postpaid T-Mobile you can get a data plan really cheap on their account. Verizon postpaid plans don't look too bad either but you'd have to go all voip.
Thanks for your response. I unfortunately don't have T-Mobile coverage for probably 50 miles or more. I have a Magicsim dual Sim tray on the way for my nexus 5. If that doesn't work I'll be buying another nexus 5 then for my att Sim. Thanks!
I'm thinking about taking my Verizon HTC One M9 to another MNVO that leases Verizon space. Has anyone had any luck doing this? I'm specifically looking at carriers like Straight Talk or Total Wireless that claim to specifically sublease off Verizon, but their sites won't tell me exactly what kind of service I can expect to get if I bring my phone over. For instance, Ting tells me that my phone would only run on their 2G GSM network, so that wouldn't be worth it.
I've also tried willmyphonework.net to test the Verizon HTC One M9 against several carriers, but I haven't found one yet in my area that seems to be fully compatible. Straight Talk shows a yellow check mark on the 3G and 4G LTE networks, indicating that it might work, Total Wireless shows a blue check on 3G but an X on LTE, and Cricket has a blue on 3G but a yellow on LTE.
Anyone have any experience moving to a MNVO with this phone? Who did you end up using?
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I'm thinking about taking my Verizon HTC One M9 to another MNVO that leases Verizon space. Has anyone had any luck doing this? I'm specifically looking at carriers like Straight Talk or Total Wireless that claim to specifically sublease off Verizon, but their sites won't tell me exactly what kind of service I can expect to get if I bring my phone over. For instance, Ting tells me that my phone would only run on their 2G GSM network, so that wouldn't be worth it.
I've also tried willmyphonework.net to test the Verizon HTC One M9 against several carriers, but I haven't found one yet in my area that seems to be fully compatible. Straight Talk shows a yellow check mark on the 3G and 4G LTE networks, indicating that it might work, Total Wireless shows a blue check on 3G but an X on LTE, and Cricket has a blue on 3G but a yellow on LTE.
Anyone have any experience moving to a MNVO with this phone? Who did you end up using?
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I use mine on StraightTalk. I live around the Birmingham, AL area and if I'm in a Verizon LTE service area, I get LTE on StraightTalk as well. 3G also works when not around LTE, but anything below 3G is questionable. Some areas I'll see 1X as my service (not sure what exactly it is but I assume 2G?) and obviously data doesn't work. It's not that it's too slow, it just doesn't work at all. Also, with StraightTalk, although you are supposed to get unlimited data, you only get 5GB of high speed data per month, and after that it drops you down to 2G. I haven't tried any other phone, but I know the M9, once you hit 5GB, your data is pretty much shut off. I've tried different APN settings to force it to use 2G with no luck. It just shows connected to 4G/LTE or 3G. I can't force it to use 1X no matter where I am unless that's the only connection available.
I would assume Net10 would work as well seeing as how Net10 and StraightTalk are the same thing.