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Will it ever come to our device?
I come from international note 1 forums where cm10 was plentiful lol! Nah for-real though.I read around a lot and from what I gathered its gonna be near impossible till Samsung releases a proper source code... smh... correct me if I'm wrong.
I thought cm 10 was basically jb and jb is what our phone has. . And does man or hasn't even been a week yet and yet we are already rooted and have several custom roms to choose from.
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cherylbaker said:
I thought cm 10 was basically jb and jb is what our phone has. . And does man or hasn't even been a week yet and yet we are already rooted and have several custom roms to choose from.
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There a couple of threads going about this on the international forums - In a nutshell, the official maintainers of exynos devices are fed up with Samsung's lack of release proper source. Until that happens, the best we can expect is a port/KANG.
Here's one particular thread where Entropy weighs in on his thoughts:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1941039
There's another one buried in the International general forums but I can't seem to find it at the moment.
EDIT - I don't know why you'd want AOSP on this phone, though. It's so buttery smooth and Touchwiz adds a lot of benefits on this phone - even more so when the Multiview patch gets pushed to us. I'd just wait for an AOSP theme and just flash that.
In answer to your question..
chunology said:
There a couple of threads going about this on the international forums - In a nutshell, the official maintainers of exynos devices are fed up with Samsung's lack of release proper source. Until that happens, the best we can expect is a port/KANG.
Here's one particular thread where Entropy weighs in on his thoughts:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1941039
There's another one buried in the International general forums but I can't seem to find it at the moment.
EDIT - I don't know why you'd want AOSP on this phone, though. It's so buttery smooth and Touchwiz adds a lot of benefits on this phone - even more so when the Multiview patch gets pushed to us. I'd just wait for an AOSP theme and just flash that.
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As someone who's come from AOSP I can't see why anyone would keep this nonsense on the phone any longer than necessary. The calendar is a prime example IMHO- other the gimmicky S-Pen notes on a picture of the calendar, the calendar doesn't separate Sync and display like CM- so I can't keep track of what my wife is up to without having to see all her appointments. The screen palm/capture thing is also tied to media hub and the rest of the (as far as I can tell ) completely useless bloatware (samsung suggest? tied to yahoo? Please.). I can't figure out how to change the toggles on the notification bar (please, please tell me there's a way to put whatever you want like sound in there as a toggle).. Wifi tether or the lack of it is another issue. Then there's the amaturish and completely annoying startup and shutdown sounds. Really, you have to disturb a meeting to shut down your phone? There's no over/under clocking except via the somewhat vague "battery optimization". Rooting and Nova has taken care of my major launcher problems. I guess I might miss S-beam unless CM ports it but honestly, I've found it extremely tedious to use IRL and not encountered anyone else who uses it has outside of the two hipsters near the apple line and the oh-so-sweet wife of the traveler.
I can't wait for CM10 so we can get Paranoid Android! It would be nice to have the status bar on the bottom within reach. I'm going to try to patiently wait it out and let the N2 price drop. My local Sprint stores are sold out anyways.
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As someone who's come from AOSP I can't see why anyone would keep this nonsense on the phone any longer than necessary. The calendar is a prime example IMHO- other the gimmicky S-Pen notes on a picture of the calendar, the calendar doesn't separate Sync and display like CM- so I can't keep track of what my wife is up to without having to see all her appointments. The screen palm/capture thing is also tied to media hub and the rest of the (as far as I can tell ) completely useless bloatware (samsung suggest? tied to yahoo? Please.). I can't figure out how to change the toggles on the notification bar (please, please tell me there's a way to put whatever you want like sound in there as a toggle).. Wifi tether or the lack of it is another issue. Then there's the amaturish and completely annoying startup and shutdown sounds. Really, you have to disturb a meeting to shut down your phone? There's no over/under clocking except via the somewhat vague "battery optimization". Rooting and Nova has taken care of my major launcher problems. I guess I might miss S-beam unless CM ports it but honestly, I've found it extremely tedious to use IRL and not encountered anyone else who uses it has outside of the two hipsters near the apple line and the oh-so-sweet wife of the traveler.
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Everything you're asking for you can get with root and modified stock.
guisar said:
As someone who's come from AOSP I can't see why anyone would keep this nonsense on the phone any longer than necessary. The calendar is a prime example IMHO- other the gimmicky S-Pen notes on a picture of the calendar, the calendar doesn't separate Sync and display like CM- so I can't keep track of what my wife is up to without having to see all her appointments. The screen palm/capture thing is also tied to media hub and the rest of the (as far as I can tell ) completely useless bloatware (samsung suggest? tied to yahoo? Please.). I can't figure out how to change the toggles on the notification bar (please, please tell me there's a way to put whatever you want like sound in there as a toggle).. Wifi tether or the lack of it is another issue. Then there's the amaturish and completely annoying startup and shutdown sounds. Really, you have to disturb a meeting to shut down your phone? There's no over/under clocking except via the somewhat vague "battery optimization". Rooting and Nova has taken care of my major launcher problems. I guess I might miss S-beam unless CM ports it but honestly, I've found it extremely tedious to use IRL and not encountered anyone else who uses it has outside of the two hipsters near the apple line and the oh-so-sweet wife of the traveler.
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I agree with most of what you said, yet touch wiz is growing on me.
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I much prefer Cm 10 as well but if it doesn't use the Spen then I'm gonna stick with touchwiz. Never thought I'd say that but I use the pen more than the keyboard by far now that I'm getting used to it. I just want a dark theme doesn't even have to be AOSP just not cartoony & imbelIished
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Been playing the the N2 and the S-pen. It would be nice to have the on-screen navigation buttons. I keep trying to press the back and home buttons with the pen!
guisar said:
As someone who's come from AOSP I can't see why anyone would keep this nonsense on the phone any longer than necessary. The calendar is a prime example IMHO- other the gimmicky S-Pen notes on a picture of the calendar, the calendar doesn't separate Sync and display like CM- so I can't keep track of what my wife is up to without having to see all her appointments. The screen palm/capture thing is also tied to media hub and the rest of the (as far as I can tell ) completely useless bloatware (samsung suggest? tied to yahoo? Please.). I can't figure out how to change the toggles on the notification bar (please, please tell me there's a way to put whatever you want like sound in there as a toggle).. Wifi tether or the lack of it is another issue. Then there's the amaturish and completely annoying startup and shutdown sounds. Really, you have to disturb a meeting to shut down your phone? There's no over/under clocking except via the somewhat vague "battery optimization". Rooting and Nova has taken care of my major launcher problems. I guess I might miss S-beam unless CM ports it but honestly, I've found it extremely tedious to use IRL and not encountered anyone else who uses it has outside of the two hipsters near the apple line and the oh-so-sweet wife of the traveler.
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Samsung will release exnos 4 source code before the end of 2012. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1929188
mrnamster said:
Been playing the the N2 and the S-pen. It would be nice to have the on-screen navigation buttons. I keep trying to press the back and home buttons with the pen!
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Add this line to your system/build.prop
qemu.hw.mainkeys=0
Save and reboot
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you can still use the Spen with CM10 i use it on the galaxy note 10.1 you just can't use the samsung apps like Snote, however there are many alternates that you can use that perform the same functions in the play store. so cm10 is definitely something worthwhile on these note devices if you are an aosp fan.
I want a nice stable version of MIUI and I'll be a happy camper. Keyword is STABLE...so I don't see that happening anytime soon.
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Add this line to your system/build.prop
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Nice. Now if only it was possible to shrink the buttons down a bit, add the search button, and only have them pop up when the s-pen is out it'd be perfect
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mrnamster said:
Been playing the the N2 and the S-pen. It would be nice to have the on-screen navigation buttons. I keep trying to press the back and home buttons with the pen!
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If you're rooted, try and app called "Button Savior (Root)"
You can toggle the buttons with a click of an on screen button.
Been using this for the past few days and I love it.
Thanks epicnoob66 and CECHOI for the tips.
Still can't wait for CM10 and PA. PA has the best boot animations.
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I also miss being able to kill apps with the back button.
+1 for CM10. I really hate all the gimmicky crap on touchwiz, I still have my GSIII which is running CM10 and it is so much nicer. It also made the GSIII faster so I don't see how the same wouldn't apply to the Note2 (although it is plenty fast as is), it has to, all the stock roms that include touchwiz are upwards of 700MB and CM10 is about 150MB, that's a lot of bloat
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Been playing the the N2 and the S-pen. It would be nice to have the on-screen navigation buttons. I keep trying to press the back and home buttons with the pen!
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Stock option just press the S-Pen button and draw a "less than" symbol "<" on the screen and that's your back function.
Also for menu just hold the S-Pen button and draw a "^" symbol and that's your menu command.
Good stuff! Is there a a gesture for Home? I find it tricky to press the Home button with the pen.
I saw the samsung galaxy note2 n7100 has begun getting nighltlies. Does that mean we will get it soon?
I've been using the S2 for a couple weeks now and although I'm satisfied with it for the most part, I want the bloatware gone and I want it rooted. Easy enough, except for one thing; there are TONS of ROMs for it and I have no idea where to start as far as which ones are best, and don't want to have to flash dozens of them to find out.
A few things to note;
1 - I'm looking for ease of use, something that includes minimal apps or at least allows me to delete apps that are packaged with it if I don't want them, and something that gets good battery life. I read this thread here and may try Slim Beam Unofficial due to it's better battery life.
2 - Or is there a way to just rip the stock ROM off, remove what I don't want, re-package it and flash it back to the phone? That's what I did with my Evo but it's been over a year and I was VERY familiar with that phone and what tools to use for such tasks. A point in the right direction (ie: link to an informative thread on this subject) would suffice, but specific replies are very much appreciated.
3 - Useful apps would be nice. Perhaps not packaged WITH the ROM but just names of useful apps (I see Titanium Backup mentioned a lot on here) would be helpful. Something to easily copy contacts & texts/call records to my PC would also be nice - the Evo didn't have much as far as that went, at least not that I could find. Maybe some music mixing apps and memory editor suggestions too. This phone is new and exciting to me, capable of WAY more than my old Evo 4G. :victory:
4 - HTC and Samsung have much different interfaces. HTC's was more customizable...I'd like to get that back. Anyone know of any HTC interface ports? Specifically the way the icons on the screen are - I don't like being forced to keep the 4 it came with on the bottom, I'd like to change them to something more useful. Also some switches for a quick data network toggle (not by going into Data Usage to toggle) and stuff like that would be nice. I can do it the Samsung way if I have to, but HTC's interface was more user friendly for me.
Anyway, I'm glad to be back at xda. Thanks for any help/suggestions! :fingers-crossed:
Try AOKP 4.2.2 :thumbup:
AOKP B5 3/10nightly NOS V0.0.7
Suppose I'll try that or a stock Samsung ROM. Surprised at the lack of replies and suggestions...usually everyone has something to say on this forum.
Cl3kener AOKP 1.3 is very good. Has good audio apps, and several built in useful apps.
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Try aokp 4.1.2 everything works perfectly. 422 was great but bluetooth, specifically bluetooth tethering does not work. No issues with 412
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I don't know anything about CM or AOKP roms cause I need Wi-Fi calling so I stick with TW. Ptmr3 has some good roms and puts out loaded and stripped roms. There is a lot of development here so your gonna have to do some research. Read the op's list of what's included and what doesn't work if any. Good luck
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You need Jedi Jelly. Trust me. Best ROM in my opinion
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If you want to be able to customize most of the ROM you want PAC man. The best ROM for your needs.
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Phone: Galaxy s2 t989
Rom: PACman 21.0.1
Kernel: PAC
I'm full of great idea's, but don't have the time to create them or learn the coding to create them. If you want to make one of my ideas a reality just message me and I will give you my idea as specific as possible.
ideas:
-launcher/lock screen
-line rider type game where you control the character
-2d fighting game like art of fighting for the SNES
-multiplayer fps where you create your own map with a creative mode (minecraft style)
-roller coaster tycoon style game
-get phone out of sleep mode
-many more!
Just message me which idea you want info on and I'll tell you!
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In reading your post it seems as if to me 1 you need to simply root your phone. From that point forward you can do anything you want to it. Now coming from an Evo which I myself came from, at first things seem different but when its software related its relatively all the same. I know you said you were shocked at the lack of responses but I think thats because your questions/feelings are a simple fix and more personalized than just sending you somewhere.
You dont have to use the 4 at the bottom they can be switched and data toggles are all over the web. Not for nothing but you really need to do some homework on android and the amount of customization apps out there...You are missing out on quite a bit
Steps to personalizing your phone below:
Root your phone
Install Root Explorer
install Titanium Backup
Install Android Commander on your pc (if you like)
Just use Google or Google Play to look up apps
Hundreds of way to simplify your rom and I only named a few.
Use the SGS2 toolkit, install a custom recovery, and root your phone. From there you can delete all the Tmo bloatware and clean up the stock rom.
see how that is for a little while, and if you still aren't satisfied, you can try some of the other roms in the dev section.
As far as apps, I have all my contacts in gmail, which automatically syncs to my phone. Airdroid is a neat app that lets you manage stuff on your phone through a PC that is connected to the same network. Evernote, quickpic, photoeditor, titanium backup, and google drive are a few apps I always install.
refyused said:
I've been using the S2 for a couple weeks now and although I'm satisfied with it for the most part, I want the bloatware gone and I want it rooted. Easy enough, except for one thing; there are TONS of ROMs for it and I have no idea where to start as far as which ones are best, and don't want to have to flash dozens of them to find out.
A few things to note;
1 - I'm looking for ease of use, something that includes minimal apps or at least allows me to delete apps that are packaged with it if I don't want them, and something that gets good battery life. I read this thread here and may try Slim Beam Unofficial due to it's better battery life.
2 - Or is there a way to just rip the stock ROM off, remove what I don't want, re-package it and flash it back to the phone? That's what I did with my Evo but it's been over a year and I was VERY familiar with that phone and what tools to use for such tasks. A point in the right direction (ie: link to an informative thread on this subject) would suffice, but specific replies are very much appreciated.
3 - Useful apps would be nice. Perhaps not packaged WITH the ROM but just names of useful apps (I see Titanium Backup mentioned a lot on here) would be helpful. Something to easily copy contacts & texts/call records to my PC would also be nice - the Evo didn't have much as far as that went, at least not that I could find. Maybe some music mixing apps and memory editor suggestions too. This phone is new and exciting to me, capable of WAY more than my old Evo 4G. :victory:
4 - HTC and Samsung have much different interfaces. HTC's was more customizable...I'd like to get that back. Anyone know of any HTC interface ports? Specifically the way the icons on the screen are - I don't like being forced to keep the 4 it came with on the bottom, I'd like to change them to something more useful. Also some switches for a quick data network toggle (not by going into Data Usage to toggle) and stuff like that would be nice. I can do it the Samsung way if I have to, but HTC's interface was more user friendly for me.
Anyway, I'm glad to be back at xda. Thanks for any help/suggestions! :fingers-crossed:
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All Star Devs or Jedi Knight Roms. I ran Slim Bean for a little bit, but the bugs, as insignificant as they may seemed, would occur too frequently. I'm currently testing out Jumping JellyBeans and lets just say I'll be flashing back to Jedi Knight this evening. Good luck on your ROM Quest.
Yeah I rooted it but it still doesn't function entirely the way I want it to.
In using this phone for a couple weeks now, one BIG complaint I have is the clock & weather widget on my Evo allowed me to check the weather OR change thje time/date/alarm simply by clicking it...unless I'm blind, the SG2 didn't even come with an alarm clock, let alone a way to click the clock widget and edit alarms.
Is there anything like that for the SG2? And yes, I do need to do more research and find out what's out there...which is kinda why I'm asking here instead of spending countless hours which I don't have, reading through tons of forums and trying tons of bunk apps. Anyway, thanks for the advice, it's been helpful so far!
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I don't know anything about CM or AOKP roms cause I need Wi-Fi calling so I stick with TW. Ptmr3 has some good roms and puts out loaded and stripped roms. There is a lot of development here so your gonna have to do some research. Read the op's list of what's included and what doesn't work if any. Good luck
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Same here - I need Wifi Calling.
What Rom are you running? I'm still on Darkside Evolution 3.8 (Andoid 4.0.3)
I've been looking for something a little more current, but haven't been able to find anything that has Wifi Calling.
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Same here - I need Wifi Calling.
What Rom are you running? I'm still on Darkside Evolution 3.8 (Andoid 4.0.3)
I've been looking for something a little more current, but haven't been able to find anything that has Wifi Calling.
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Evolution is still a good Rom. I have recently gone back to stock cause my phone has been acting up since it went for a swim but I was using jedi knight and jedi mind trick.
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refyused said:
Yeah I rooted it but it still doesn't function entirely the way I want it to.
In using this phone for a couple weeks now, one BIG complaint I have is the clock & weather widget on my Evo allowed me to check the weather OR change thje time/date/alarm simply by clicking it...unless I'm blind, the SG2 didn't even come with an alarm clock, let alone a way to click the clock widget and edit alarms.
Is there anything like that for the SG2? And yes, I do need to do more research and find out what's out there...which is kinda why I'm asking here instead of spending countless hours which I don't have, reading through tons of forums and trying tons of bunk apps. Anyway, thanks for the advice, it's been helpful so far!
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You could always flash a better rom that is newer, like others have suggested. Any rom with ICS or above will have a clock that allows you to tap the widget and get the alarm, and can display the weather below it. If you're looking for a fully loaded rom, "PACman" (see the link in my signature at the bottom of this post) is the way to go. It it 3 roms built into one, "Paranoid Android, AOKP, Cyanogen Mod". I literally bought my SGSII just to be able to use the PACrom, (I came from a Tmobile MyTouch 4G (Doubleshot) which didn't have a working PACman rom link, so far as my patience to find one allowed).
Other options are to install a new launcher for your phone, like the "Go Launcher" from the play store, or an htc clock widget from the playstore or online. Either of the 2 will instantly provide you with your clock and weather settings.
I have world weather clock widget on my lockscreen. Has weather and time. I think there might be a way to configure it to set alarms, but I'm not sure. I don't really ever set alarms on my phone.
I am using JB 4.1.2 with build Jedi Mind Trick JB2 and the beta kernel as a DD and it is fast and smooth. Prior to I was using Jedi Mind Trick X4 by the same dev and I prefer JB 4.1.2 over the X4 but everyone is different.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1818305
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refyused said:
unless I'm blind, the SG2 didn't even come with an alarm clock
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go to the clock and create an alarm
I have the m919. At first I was enamored with the whole tw thing and it was fun, but I think my next phone shall be a nexus or something else with Aosp. My phone runs faster and I like the space saved by flashing the Virgin Rom. The only thing I miss is the wife calling, but good to know I can always flash back or find a dual boot if I REALLY need wife calling, but for what it is, I am lovin the Virgin Google Ed. Rom. Thoughts or ideas are welcome. If you share or disagree, I would like to know what others feel. Please and thank u.
This should be in q&a.
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You are in the wrong section hun, will have a moderator move this over or something.
Goodguyaries said:
I have the m919. At first I was enamored with the whole tw thing and it was fun, but I think my next phone shall be a nexus or something else with Aosp. My phone runs faster and I like the space saved by flashing the Virgin Rom. The only thing I miss is the wife calling, but good to know I can always flash back or find a dual boot if I REALLY need wife calling, but for what it is, I am lovin the Virgin Google Ed. Rom. Thoughts or ideas are welcome. If you share or disagree, I would like to know what others feel. Please and thank u.
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some time the wife calls too much.
☞ Sent from here☜???
I don't use wifi calling, so I don't know much about it. Is it a T-Mobile or Touchwiz feature? If its a Touchwiz feature, is it available on all versions (ATT, Verizon, etc) of the S4?
I like Touchwiz, but i dont care for the launcher. You can run a Touchwiz ROM with Nova launcher, which is very AOSP-like. That's what my AOSP loving friend did on this S4, before he rooted it. I run Wicked ROM (Touchwiz based) with the Sony Xperia launcher. Prior to this I ran Paranoid Android (AOSP) and it was too plain for me.
If storage is an issue, how about getting a microsd card? I dont store any music or videos on my phone, so storage isn't a problem. I guess this thread goes to show how everyone uses their phone differently, and finding the right ROM to fit your needs is tricky.
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I don't use wifi calling, so I don't know much about it. Is it a T-Mobile or Touchwiz feature? If its a Touchwiz feature, is it available on all versions (ATT, Verizon, etc) of the S4?
I like Touchwiz, but i dont care for the launcher. You can run a Touchwiz ROM with Nova launcher, which is very AOSP-like. That's what my AOSP loving friend did on this S4, before he rooted it. I run Wicked ROM (Touchwiz based) with the Sony Xperia launcher. Prior to this I ran Paranoid Android (AOSP) and it was too plain for me.
If storage is an issue, how about getting a microsd card? I dont store any music or videos on my phone, so storage isn't a problem. I guess this thread goes to show how everyone uses their phone differently, and finding the right ROM to fit your needs is tricky.
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It's a T-Mobile feature.
I used to have only Nexus phones and run AOSP Roms. I've now come accustomed to the touchwiz ROM, especially after the way they've been customized by the devs here. Unfortunately my service is awful where I live, so WiFi calling is a must for me. I think touchwiz is just better suited to the GS4 with all its proprietary features.
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Goodguyaries said:
I have the m919. At first I was enamored with the whole tw thing and it was fun, but I think my next phone shall be a nexus or something else with Aosp. My phone runs faster and I like the space saved by flashing the Virgin Rom. The only thing I miss is the wife calling, but good to know I can always flash back or find a dual boot if I REALLY need wife calling, but for what it is, I am lovin the Virgin Google Ed. Rom. Thoughts or ideas are welcome. If you share or disagree, I would like to know what others feel. Please and thank u.
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Your need to get better / more fun friends if you miss the wife calling!!!
And obviously you cant have a Virgin and a wife. Kind of tough to be happy with either.
dannyben said:
Your need to get better / more fun friends if you miss the wife calling!!!
And obviously you cant have a Virgin and a wife. Kind of tough to be happy with either.
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Auto correct is a s. O. B I think.. At any rate I find touch wiz to be gimmicky at best, and if need be I can go back to it but I do find aosp to be more responsive. I do keep music but the thing is you can only move certain files to the SD card. Unless you get a custom rom that allows it. Or am I wrong?
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Goodguyaries said:
Auto correct is a s. O. B I think.. At any rate I find touch wiz to be gimmicky at best, and if need be I can go back to it but I do find aosp to be more responsive. I do keep music but the thing is you can only move certain files to the SD card. Unless you get a custom rom that allows it. Or am I wrong?
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LOL.
Yes that is correct. T-mo hasnt updated their software to allow this yet. Any of the i9505 TW Roms will have to App2SD as well as many other huge improvements (but you'll lose "wifi" calling). Or in just 2-1/2 weeks T-mo will provide an update to TW4.3
Both TW and AOSP have their own pros and cons. I find AOSPish ROMs to be snappier than TW could ever think of being, but I always find myself reverting back to one version of TW or another. Without naming ROMs specifically, I'll say that given the selection of all the ROMs I've tried (which is most every one in the i9505, AT&T, and this forum) I can feasibly say that I run both TW and AOSP fairly equally with no real bias towards either. Some custom TW I don't care for, some AOSP I don't enjoy at all, and some on both sides I consider my fall-backs that I always keep an updated backup of. They each have their own appeal and it just depends on what I feel like running that particular week/day/hour. I just wish I could figure out why I can't seem to run any version of 4.3 without it randomly freezing up during the night :\
That's cool, I keep an infamous v8 backup on my s4, but actively run virgin aosp. Like I am supposed to go to a friends house, maybe I will run the infamous because of wifi calling. But the tw seems to kill my battery faster, so for the mundane aosp seems like a daily rom to run. Imho
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So Im going to pick up a note 3 next week, sick of verizons 120 dollar phone bills, so gonna move to T-mobile. mainly for the Wi-Fi calling since i work in a metal dungeon with no cell coverage.
I will probably go ahead and get SU, but wait until cyanogenmod kit kat comes out to do a custom rom.. Does anyone have any idea how many (if any at all) of the note 3 software packages we will lose? i mean will the s pen and wi-fi calling and all the other options still work like it does out of the box?
Nope, with cm you will lose everything. Wifi calling, s pen features, all the motion features, camera, etc... That's why I stick to touchwiz.
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flipq88 said:
Nope, with cm you will lose everything. Wifi calling, s pen features, all the motion features, camera, etc... That's why I stick to touchwiz.
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Oh? So someone has already made a CM rom for the note3? Please direct me to it, otherwise all you're spouting out is hearsay.
Rickdaddy said:
Oh? So someone has already made a CM rom for the note3? Please direct me to it, otherwise all you're spouting out is hearsay.
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No it's a fact. I don't need there to be a cm rom to know those features will be lost. You know why? Cuz its AOSP, and all the features are part of TOUCHWIZ. So don't try to be a smartass.
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flipq88 said:
Nope, with cm you will lose everything. Wifi calling, s pen features, all the motion features, camera, etc... That's why I stick to touchwiz.
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You're not wrong, but you're not really right either. You won't lose EVERYTHING, you'll lose the TouchWiz-specific stuff and gain the AOSP-specific stuff.
WiFi calling will be gone, that's a T-Mobile specific thing really but it's baked into the stock ROM and not open source, thus GONE.
S-Pen hardware itself likely will work, as its driver is baked into the kernel which is open source. It will show up as a pointing device like a mouse, but third party S-Pen supporting apps will still be able to read pressure sensitivity and S-Pen button states. The TouchWiz-specific S-Pen functionality will be gone such as pen popup menu, pen windows, pen screenshot, and other pen actions built into the TouchWiz software. You'll still be able to take notes and draw with third party apps (of which many exist).
Motion features will be gone, those are TouchWiz specific software things. The motion sensors themselves will still be usable by apps that use motion features themselves, but the TouchWiz software motion features are GONE.
Camera will still exist, but instead of the TouchWiz camera app it will be the AOSP (or modified version thereof) camera app. You'll still have all the camera hardware features (flash, touch focus, video, etc) but the software image enhancements TW provides will be gone (replaced by whatever software image enhancements the ROM's app has though). CM's version of the AOSP camera app is quite good though, on my Note 1 it had plenty of features and took great pics. There's also Focal. The front camera is also still usable both by the camera app and by video chat programs. Camera features like 4K and slow motion video may not be supported right out of the box, but CM's been pretty good at updating the AOSP camera app as new hardware comes out. Remember that both of those camera features aren't Samsung's doing but rather features of the Snapdragon 800 SoC and many non-Samsung phones (including AOSP's flagship Nexus 5) are using that processor. You can be pretty much guaranteed those will be supported.
So, tl;dr: quit spreading the FUD that AOSP removes critical functionality. It does remove a lot of software functionality, but the hardware will still be supported and what you lose in TouchWiz features you make up for in custom ROM features. If you like the TW features stick with TW, but if you like the custom ROM features you're probably better off with a custom AOSP-based ROM. There are already attempts to bring things like multi-window and such to AOSP in projects like Halo for Paranoid Android and OmniROM which has splitscreen working. More options are a good thing, not a bad one.
As soon as Google Voice is integrated with Hangouts (of which it already is on iOS, grrr), WiFi calling will be available on AOSP. You will just have to set up a free Google Voice number, then have incoming calls be forwarded to Google Talk (Hangouts) and your regular number. So if you have a cell connection, answer it with the stock dialer; if you don't have a cell connection, answer it with Hangouts. You will have to give out your Google Voice number (or port your number to Google Voice), but after that, just direct all cellular calls to go through Google Voice, then you will only have one number.
A great thing about giving out your Google Voice number instead of your regular number, is that if you get a call from an advertiser (spam), you can set Google Voice to play a "this number has been disconnected" recording to that number if they call again (call blocking/filtering). That way, you will never get a call from them again, even if they keep calling. Again, all this is free except to port your number.
Of course, we have yet to see Google Voice integration with Hangouts on Android, and it is looking like May 14th, 2014 will likely be when we may see it.
thanks for the replies. i think ill stick with touchwiz for a while, i liked it in my 14 minutes playing with it, so im sure ill like it more once i actually own the phone.
I was hoping we could pry the software from t mobiles rom and apply it to a custom rom, but i guess the simplest thing for me will be to just root and get rid of the bloat + autostarts.
Are we going to be be getting any non touchwiz roms soon? I sure miss cm 11 and omni roms.
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Soon .probably. Hopefully. But you should ask these kinda question in the q and a thread or the general section before u get flamed. ☺
Sorry. I only asked here because this is where they get posted.
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Patch7 said:
Sorry. I only asked here because this is where they get posted.
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Questions go under questions. Theres yet to be a specific ROM thread up where that would apply.
they have cm booting on the tmobile one, the majority of that code would work fine for the sprint one. chances are they will be unified builds. if this was teh s5 or anything id work towards fleshing out the device tree and bringing it up, but i am truly happy with my note 4 stock with xposed. i dont use all the fancy samsung features but i do use enough of them to not even really want to bother flashing aosp and losing out on it. granted this is my first note device but i cant see or imagine why anyone would want to use something other than stock, battery is amazing, features are top notch and its very fast and fluid.
I came from a nexus 5 but i sold that and for a week i used a kyocera echo until my note 4 preorder was ready to pick up, it truly is amazing in how much progress has been made in such a short time.
I agree with Shabbypenguin.
I'd rather have a stock ROM with all the cool Samsung functionality of floating windows, one handed moded, functional heart rate sensor, S-Pen apps, and camera app all work great.
Instead we need a rom with stock as base, and AOSP apps like I describe in my thread:
My "Dream ROM" for the Note 4 would be:
*Rooted
*Knox removed
*CyanogenMod style theming
*Samsung and Sprint bloatware removed (accept for Facebook sync)
*TouchWiz apps (calendar, messaging, phone, clock, calculator, lockscreen, notification quick settings) replaced with CyanogenMod versions
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2920117
hermeticist said:
I agree with Shabbypenguin.
I'd rather have a stock ROM with all the cool Samsung functionality of floating windows, one handed moded, functional heart rate sensor, S-Pen apps, and camera app all work great.
Instead we need a rom with stock as base, and AOSP apps like I describe in my thread:
My "Dream ROM" for the Note 4 would be:
*Rooted
*Knox removed
*CyanogenMod style theming
*Samsung and Sprint bloatware removed (accept for Facebook sync)
*TouchWiz apps (calendar, messaging, phone, clock, calculator, lockscreen, notification quick settings) replaced with CyanogenMod versions
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2920117
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i swore i replied to you in there but i guess i didnt :/. the cm theme manager isnt possible on stock, its embedded in so many core files to be able to alter everything on the fly its not possible without recompiling with the code added in, and we cant recompile touchwiz.
shabbypenguin said:
they have cm booting on the tmobile one, the majority of that code would work fine for the sprint one. chances are they will be unified builds. if this was teh s5 or anything id work towards fleshing out the device tree and bringing it up, but i am truly happy with my note 4 stock with xposed. i dont use all the fancy samsung features but i do use enough of them to not even really want to bother flashing aosp and losing out on it. granted this is my first note device but i cant see or imagine why anyone would want to use something other than stock, battery is amazing, features are top notch and its very fast and fluid.
I came from a nexus 5 but i sold that and for a week i used a kyocera echo until my note 4 preorder was ready to pick up, it truly is amazing in how much progress has been made in such a short time.
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My main gripe is the typing lag,
in some apps. I notice the typing lag mainly on TouchWiz roms and in Google hangouts and a few other apps. I've tried different keyboards and they all lag on TouchWiz. If I use Aosp, no lag at all anywhere.
Yes the features of the Note 4 are great but I don't use and can live without most of them. I really wanted this device for its spen. I'd take the overall smoothness of cm11 and it's lean build over the features in touch wiz. Hopefully we get a cm build going.
Cm12? Mmmmm
I was just reading about CM12.
I'm strongly thinking of moving over.
I can mimic floating windows with xhalo xposed. It has resizable windows that work similar to TouchWiz floating windows.
I'm not sure how I'd mimic one handed mode
Or the stock camera app which has dual facing camera modes.
Any ideas?
Read on land of droid the cm12 roadmap
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Hopefully someone picks up the Sprint Note 4 as the cm12 maintainer.
Looking forward to cm on the note 4. It's pretty much the only thing keeping me from buying one.
shabbypenguin said:
they have cm booting on the tmobile one, the majority of that code would work fine for the sprint one. chances are they will be unified builds. if this was teh s5 or anything id work towards fleshing out the device tree and bringing it up, but i am truly happy with my note 4 stock with xposed. i dont use all the fancy samsung features but i do use enough of them to not even really want to bother flashing aosp and losing out on it. granted this is my first note device but i cant see or imagine why anyone would want to use something other than stock, battery is amazing, features are top notch and its very fast and fluid.
I came from a nexus 5 but i sold that and for a week i used a kyocera echo until my note 4 preorder was ready to pick up, it truly is amazing in how much progress has been made in such a short time.
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Who has it booting on tmobile?
More then likely welll be skipped cause of poor sales
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pbedard said:
More then likely welll be skipped cause of poor sales
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Yea probably not man. Anyone with enough skill can build the device tree. Its just nice when we get official maintainers. Give it time, it will happen. Samsung devices ALWYS get cm.
Slayher has cm12 apparently booting on the note 4
jdidtht said:
Slayher has cm12 apparently booting on the note 4
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Sprint or t-mobile?
DarkManX4lf said:
Sprint or t-mobile?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=56811531
International looks like, but sd variants very similar so just having a tree available is huge
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Have we reached a point where all of the stuff you mentioned is no longer going to be able to be incorporated into AOSP? I came to the note 4 from the note 2, and I agree touchwiz is pretty nicely refined, but I would like to see AOSP. From some post's I've read hear and there, it appears that touchwiz just gets more complex. What about the Nexus 6 OS?
hermeticist said:
I agree with Shabbypenguin.
I'd rather have a stock ROM with all the cool Samsung functionality of floating windows, one handed moded, functional heart rate sensor, S-Pen apps, and camera app all work great.
Instead we need a rom with stock as base, and AOSP apps like I describe in my thread:
My "Dream ROM" for the Note 4 would be:
*Rooted
*Knox removed
*CyanogenMod style theming
*Samsung and Sprint bloatware removed (accept for Facebook sync)
*TouchWiz apps (calendar, messaging, phone, clock, calculator, lockscreen, notification quick settings) replaced with CyanogenMod versions
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2920117
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