i had a gsm gnex on ATT, friday i ditched ATT and picked up verizon, loved my gnex, so i got a new one for my wife and i. here are my impressions of the differences between the gsm and cdma versions
first, i was easily able to use one click to unlock and root both gsm and cdma versions. the cdma did not require any special treatment to unlock, cwm, root and install 3rd party roms. it was the EXACT same procedure as the GSM.
physical differences, the cdma is just slightly thicker, honestly, i can barely tell, but, my cruzerlite case fit both just fine. the cdma feels slightly heavier, but not enough to make a difference. the power button feels harder to push in over my GSM version though, not a big deal though.
the screen on the CDMA version is perfect, my GSM had the typical banding streaks, cdma version, screen is crystal clear.
battery life was better on my GSM, but this is probably due to LTE
i never thought i would need over 16gb, since i have never had more than that on any device, but, i will say i will never have less than 32gb again, lol. the extra storage is nice! no more deleting music or backups just to install a game!
signal strength is about the same in different areas (home, work, places i frequent), but the LTE speeds are worlds difference over HSPA
all in all, the talk about the verizon gnex not a real gnex, not sure where or why that came about, it looks, feels and performs the same as my GSM.
Maybe it's time to learn how to use adb and fastboot..
Head over to the Q&A section, there is a thread by Jubakuba.
Beamed from my Grouper.
Mach3.2 said:
Maybe it's time to learn how to use adb and fastboot..
Head over to the Q&A section, there is a thread by Jubakuba.
Beamed from my Grouper.
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but one click is so much easier, lulz
One difference between the GSM and CDMA Nexus is that you can use the GSM Nexus on Straight Talk Sim (Att or Tmo) for $45 per month and the Verizon one will cost you anywhere between $85-$110 per months. Over the course of 2 years you could save around $700+ by using GSM, if I did my math right (Verizon phone is subsidized, GSM is unsubsidized).
stelv said:
One difference between the GSM and CDMA Nexus is that you can use the GSM Nexus on Straight Talk Sim (Att or Tmo) for $45 per month and the Verizon one will cost you anywhere between $85-$110 per months. Over the course of 2 years you could save around $700+ by using GSM, if I did my math right (Verizon phone is subsidized, GSM is unsubsidized).
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i have multi line family plans, discounted from work. att was $160 per month, 700 minutes shared, 200 texts each month, 2 gb data on main line, 200mb on all others. verizon is $125, 4gb shared data plan, unlimited all others.
straight talk is cool if you're trying to save money, but, i can't rely on a straight talk service with running a business off my devices.
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i have multi line family plans, discounted from work. att was $160 per month, 700 minutes shared, 200 texts each month, 2 gb data on main line, 200mb on all others. verizon is $125, 4gb shared data plan, unlimited all others.
straight talk is cool if you're trying to save money, but, i can't rely on a straight talk service with running a business off my devices.
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You are right. I guess it depends on how many lines you have. Shared data does probably benefit a person with three or more lines. For a single line or two lines, Straight Talk Sim is a way better option though, because you get 2+gigs of data with unlimited calls and text on each line.
It is really nice to be able to switch carriers as needed as opposed to "Here it comes were shoving it up your *** enjoy the year and a half you have left on your plan." Prepay is the only way for me. I come from sprint the land of "We"ll have that 4g\lte working any day now!" I don't miss it at all.
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svtfmook said:
i have multi line family plans, discounted from work. att was $160 per month, 700 minutes shared, 200 texts each month, 2 gb data on main line, 200mb on all others. verizon is $125, 4gb shared data plan, unlimited all others.
straight talk is cool if you're trying to save money, but, i can't rely on a straight talk service with running a business off my devices.
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From what i understand straight talk runs off att and\or tmobile towers i'm not sure what type of "service" your business needs? 4gb shared cap can quickly be reached on multi lines.
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svtfmook said:
i had a gsm gnex on ATT, friday i ditched ATT and picked up verizon, loved my gnex, so i got a new one for my wife and i. here are my impressions of the differences between the gsm and cdma versions
first, i was easily able to use one click to unlock and root both gsm and cdma versions. the cdma did not require any special treatment to unlock, cwm, root and install 3rd party roms. it was the EXACT same procedure as the GSM.
physical differences, the cdma is just slightly thicker, honestly, i can barely tell, but, my cruzerlite case fit both just fine. the cdma feels slightly heavier, but not enough to make a difference. the power button feels harder to push in over my GSM version though, not a big deal though.
the screen on the CDMA version is perfect, my GSM had the typical banding streaks, cdma version, screen is crystal clear.
battery life was better on my GSM, but this is probably due to LTE
i never thought i would need over 16gb, since i have never had more than that on any device, but, i will say i will never have less than 32gb again, lol. the extra storage is nice! no more deleting music or backups just to install a game!
signal strength is about the same in different areas (home, work, places i frequent), but the LTE speeds are worlds difference over HSPA
all in all, the talk about the verizon gnex not a real gnex, not sure where or why that came about, it looks, feels and performs the same as my GSM.
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The reason it's not considered a true nexus is not really the phone it's the carrier The phone is great, its the 2 moron companies Verizon and sprint that jack around forever waiting to let the updates come through for the nexus. It becomes somewhat ordinary when the gsm gets it and you are still waiting......but you most likely know all this. I'm sure lte is great but on a 4gb shared cap it's not that big of a deal.
woody296 said:
It is really nice to be able to switch carriers as needed as opposed to "Here it comes were shoving it up your *** enjoy the year and a half you have left on your plan." Prepay is the only way for me. I come from sprint the land of "We"ll have that 4g\lte working any day now!" I don't miss it at all.
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i dropped att 7 months into the contract, no fees, they were not providing me with the data speeds i needed, i was able to leave contract because of this. just because you're in a contract, doesn't mean you can't get out if they are not providing you with the service you signed up for.
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From what i understand straight talk runs off att and\or tmobile towers i'm not sure what type of "service" your business needs? 4gb shared cap can quickly be reached on multi lines.
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like i said, i came from 2GB + 200mb + 200mb on my lines and never went over. on verizon i have 4gb (more than enough) and it's faster (rarely got over 1mb down on att, and any other time the signal was spotty and unreliable, getting between 7 and 10mb down now. yes, the straight talk plans run off of att/tmobile networks, same as others. but, in my area, the att network was crap, so regardless if i'm saving $18 per line or not, i'd rather have a network i can rely on. see below for an example of my lightning fast, reliable att network
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The reason it's not considered a true nexus is not really the phone it's the carrier The phone is great, its the 2 moron companies Verizon and sprint that jack around forever waiting to let the updates come through for the nexus. It becomes somewhat ordinary when the gsm gets it and you are still waiting......but you most likely know all this. I'm sure lte is great but on a 4gb shared cap it's not that big of a deal.
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you and i both know that anyone here, should care less about OTA updates. i think friday was the first time, in over 10 years of smart phones/pdas, that i have ever done an OTA update.
It's too bad your Att is that slow. I can get anywhere between 3-7mbs down with Straight Talk Att. You can get 4gigs (maybe eve more) of data with 2 Straight Talk lines for $90 total per month ($45 for each line). That's a lot less than $125 per month, and its contract free. But I understand you gotta have decent coverage, it's worth nothing without coverage.
This phone (gsm) version is the first one i have felt i didn't NEED to do something to. It's nice just to be able to run it as google intended it to be rather than root/rom so it brings it to the point where it's enjoyable. That's what makes the cdma version a little weak, you are FORCED to do something if you want latest and greatest. Will most people root/rom the cdma and gsm versions? I suppose, but it's really nice to not feel like you HAVE to. Did it feel nice to do that ota update? It's almost like moving into a modern world. Ten years of messing with phones to get it right? Seems at this point we should know what to buy and from which carrier to buy it from to make our lives a little easier, don't you think?
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This phone (gsm) version is the first one i have felt i didn't NEED to do something to. It's nice just to be able to run it as google intended it to be rather than root/rom so it brings it to the point where it's enjoyable. That's what makes the cdma version a little weak, you are FORCED to do something if you want latest and greatest. Will most people root/rom the cdma and gsm versions? I suppose, but it's really nice to not feel like you HAVE to. Did it feel nice to do that ota update? It's almost like moving into a modern world. Ten years of messing with phones to get it right? Seems at this point we should know what to buy and from which carrier to buy it from to make our lives a little easier, don't you think?
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I don't know if you've seen a Verizon nexus or not, but i feel the same way about not needing to flash a Rom right out of the box. I just got my nexus about a week ago, and 15 minutes after i got it activated, i got the jellybean update. It's as pure Google as they come. The only apps Verizon has on there was My Verizon Mobile and backup assistant. I used to have a droid charge, and I'm glad to say that the nexus was a welcome change. The only thing i really had to do to it was install the Swype keyboard, and it's perfect (for now).
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svtfmook said:
i dropped att 7 months into the contract, no fees, they were not providing me with the data speeds i needed, i was able to leave contract because of this. just because you're in a contract, doesn't mean you can't get out if they are not providing you with the service you signed up for.
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This isn't the case with sprint, we switched (my family) to Verizon from Sprint, every line had to pay 150$ i think. Data was spotty and Verizon had brought Lte to our little area in VA. meanwhile, sprint was discontinuing the rollout of Wimax and began creating their LTE towers, so there was no way we were waiting for that again. We had already had wimax 4g phones so we needed new phones anyway. Long story short, Sprints unlimited data is useless in many suburban and even urban areas.
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This isn't the case with sprint, we switched (my family) to Verizon from Sprint, every line had to pay 150$ i think. Data was spotty and Verizon had brought Lte to our little area in VA. meanwhile, sprint was discontinuing the rollout of Wimax and began creating their LTE towers, so there was no way we were waiting for that again. We had already had wimax 4g phones so we needed new phones anyway. Long story short, Sprints unlimited data is useless in many suburban and even urban areas.
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here's what i did to get out, no fees.
i called tech support because i suddenly stopped getting signal at work. they opened a ticket, called me back the next day saying it was "resolved". i had no change. i started losing reception at home, and the signal started getting spotty everywhere else. i call tech support again, they tell me it's my phone, ok, i have plenty of extras, so i swap sim into another phone, same results. they tell me my sim needs to be exchanged and reprovisioned and i need to go to the att store to do so. i go to the att store, they stare at me like i was speaking a foreign language and basically tell me "no". i go back home, call tech support, they tell me go back to store, they will call the store. i go back to the store, talk to rep, he now knows what to do. so he gets a new sim, reprovisions it, then tells me to run a speed test, because this will fix all my problems. i ran it, 80kbs, he was like, uh... i call tech support from my phone with the sales rep, the line was so staticy the tech rep had to call us back at the store, tech support tells me there's nothing more they can do and that their policy is they can't guarantee service everywhere. i then contacted the BBB, teh FCC and the attorney generals office for complaints. i then get a call back from the office of executives at att, my line was so staticy that they immediately cancelled the account right there.
if you are plagued with issues, you can get out of the contract. the BBB is a great resource, they have to respond to close out the complaint filed with the BBB
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Pro's for T-Mobile Galaxy S2:
Generally better data speeds
Generally cheaper plan
GSM, so can use internationally
True Android-native infrastructure tethering after root
No Loss of Service (LOS), a problem afflicting Sprint GS2
No Sound Pool bug, a problem that crashes games afflicting all Exynos GS2
NFC
Wifi calling
USB Host (USB on the go)
Noise cancellation microphone
Con's for T-Mobile Galaxy S2:
Generally less coverage around the country (especially on non-roaming prepaid plans)
Screen suffers from blotches on low-brightness
Slightly slower CPU/GPU
Worse front-facing camera
Runs hotter
Less dev support
No notification LED
Capped data that throttles after plan limits
Edit: This thread was originally about me considering switching from a Sprint GS2 to a T-Mobile GS2. I've now done so, but figured since I drew up such a comprehensive list of differences, might as well keep it around for anyone else that might be curious
read thought this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1320942
talltexan said:
read thought this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1320942
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Yup, I saw that, weird and disappointing. That's why I have "slightly worse screen" in my list of cons.
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GSM, so can use internationally, but only at EDGE speeds
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that's not correct
it can get 3G/4G at any GSM internationally
that's the beauty of this version of SGS2 Hercules
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No LOS, a problem afflicting Sprint GS2
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What is LOS? Line of Sight? Left over soup?
I just switched over from Sprint as well. Their 3G has been totally pathetic and borderline unusable for the last 6 months. My T-Mobile speeds are 10+ times faster. I don't know what the SERO plan is, but T-Mobile doesn't have free mobile to mobile calling like Sprint. They only give you free calling from T-Mobile to T-Mobile and their nights and weekends are more restrictive than Sprint.
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that's not correct
it can get 3G/4G at any GSM internationally
that's the beauty of this version of SGS2 Hercules
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Wow, that is big for me. Thanks for the tip, I hadn't heard the Hercules also has the AT&T bands.
Splaktar said:
What is LOS? Line of Sight? Left over soup?
I just switched over from Sprint as well. Their 3G has been totally pathetic and borderline unusable for the last 6 months. My T-Mobile speeds are 10+ times faster. I don't know what the SERO plan is, but T-Mobile doesn't have free mobile to mobile calling like Sprint. They only give you free calling from T-Mobile to T-Mobile and their nights and weekends are more restrictive than Sprint.
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Loss of Service. It's a problem that comes from the fact that Samsung kind of sucks at making CDMA modems. Sometimes the Sprint GS2 will just lose cell service, and it won't come back until you reboot. I haven't gotten bit by it yet, but it's widespread enough that I feel it's just a matter of time.
The Sprint speeds drive me nuts. In the middle of Manhattan, I see download speeds on 3G of as low as 100kbps on Speedtest.
I'd be going to the T-Mobile $30 prepaid 5GB 100 minute plan, so I wouldn't get any nights and weekends or mobile to mobile I think. The plan's a big downgrade from the numbers I had on Sprint, but the speed improvements and lower monthly fee would balance it out for me. Plus, talking is probably the feature I use least on my phone.
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Loss of Service. It's a problem that comes from the fact that Samsung kind of sucks at making CDMA modems. Sometimes the Sprint GS2 will just lose cell service, and it won't come back until you reboot. I haven't gotten bit by it yet, but it's widespread enough that I feel it's just a matter of time.
The Sprint speeds drive me nuts. In the middle of Manhattan, I see download speeds on 3G of as low as 100kbps on Speedtest.
I'd be going to the T-Mobile $30 prepaid 5GB 100 minute plan, so I wouldn't get any nights and weekends or mobile to mobile I think. The plan's a big downgrade from the numbers I had on Sprint, but the speed improvements and lower monthly fee would balance it out for me. Plus, talking is probably the feature I use least on my phone.
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If your paying $79.99 for sprint tmobile has the same plan for $79.99 with contract 2 gig cab though. if you want 5 gig cap its $89.99. 10 gig cap is $99.99
All those plans have unlimted minutes and texting.
Killbynature said:
If your paying $79.99 for sprint tmobile has the same plan for $79.99 with contract 2 gig cab though. if you want 5 gig cap its $89.99. 10 gig cap is $99.99
All those plans have unlimted minutes and texting.
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I pay 49 for unlimited talk/text and 2 gigs data. Not sure about 79.
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my wife works for tmobile and ill tell you that if you live in a good area then tmobile is definitely worth it and is the best bargain out there , if you travel alot then i dont recommend them,all depends on your lifestyle, most major cities get pretty good tmobile service
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I pay 49 for unlimited talk/text and 2 gigs data. Not sure about 79.
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Classic or Value if you don't get subsidize it is much cheaper.
For me:
1. Sprint Galaxy S II phones do suffer from loss of signal. I have noticed this on both Sprint Galaxy S II phone I have. Very very annoying.
2. T-Mobile's version suffers from poor display.
3. T-Mobile's version suffers from poor front facing camera.
Maybe all of these problems can be fixed with a software update. And Samsung will take the time to make this happen. There are no assurances however.
For its part, Sprint has acknowledged the loss of signal problem and has promised a fix. T-Mobile has not yet acknowledged problems with their unit.
Walmart piggybacks off Tmobil.towers
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I dunno what everyone is talking about with the front camera, it's the same resolution as sprint's.
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I dunno what everyone is talking about with the front camera, it's the same resolution as sprint's.
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You might have missed this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1326314
Yes, I definitely missed that post. Damn :/
Hopefully it's just a software issue.
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Classic or Value if you don't get subsidize it is much cheaper.
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I'm on a value plan. 99 a month for 2 lines. And I'm in an excellent coverage area. But, 2 gigs is definitely not enough. I blew through half of that on Friday listening to Google music beta
First time I missed sprint since I switched a few months back.
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Has anyone tried USB on the go to plug in a USB stick on the T-Mobile GS2?
They disabled it on the Sprint version for some reason, and am wondering if this is another pro I could add to the list.
Another question that I thought of.
Has anyone experienced lots of random crashing to home screen while playing games? Both the Sprint and international Galaxy S2 suffer from a bug in their sound system that causes certain games to crash all the time. If the T-Mobile one doesn't do that, it'd be a huge advantage.
Former sprint to tmo customer.
as a former sprint customer recently switched over to T Mobile in the NorCal area...
SWITCH TO TMOBILE.
holy ****. i ing hate sprint. i got the evo 3d from them, and right out of the box the first unit was bunk. started power cycling directly AFTER i set everything up and linked my contacts. The 3vo being my first android phone, i didn't know that a randomly restarting phone meant LEMONLEMONLEMON so i hung onto it for a couple days, hoping the issue would fix itself or something.
Called IN ADVANCE when the phone first began having issues to talk to the guy who sold me the phone. Brought it in a week after, after trying everything someone rational would, i.e. battery pull, factory reset, etc. and when i brought the device in i was told by the associate, (yes this is a quote) that he couldn't exchange it but that he could do a "hard hard reset" for me, (after i explained to him it had already been reset every way possible) and send me on my way.
Bear in mind sprint store is 35 minutes away in the next town over, and so this is now taken 2 hours of driving, and still no fully functional phone.
i get home, set everything up again, and boom. Literally as i drag the last icon into place it starts power cycling again.
i call corporate at this point to see if i can ensure an actual replacement on my next trip. i get a vague "probably-ish." sorta answer from them.
when i arrive the next day, there's an associate who was obviously told to expect me as he becomes instantly friendly when i tell him my name and he reads some memo on his screen. I give him my phone, and he hands me the power cord and charger, winking at me and goes "this is for your wasted time. keep it, as a thirty dollar value"
now, like all of you, i'm aware a usb cord and adapter is not worth 30 dollars. However, i was appreciative of the gesture, and i know that sprint really will try to charge you 30 bucks for one of those cords.
After a little wait i'm told the technician got my phone in front of him, and it power cycled in his face. so they replaced it. (finally)
as i'm checking out, back with the original associate who i got the dude phone from 2 weeks before, he's being SUPER surly. Won't look me in the eyes or answer any of the questions i have with more than a grunt or mumble. As he's switching out the new phone with the old, he takes the new charger cable and tosses it in the old box and slides it away from me.
i interrupt him and say "hey, the guy i checked in with said i could keep that."
not even bothering to look up, he shrugs, PULLS IT OUT OF MY HAND, tosses it into the box and closes it and says "nope."
i'm a bit taken aback at this point. incredulously i say, "i was told i would be given that for my wasted time. i was already told that i could have that."
to which he says, still not looking up "htc policy we return em."
at this pont, i'm just ing done dealing with this dude. So i just ask him where the other associate is, so i can work it out with him instead, to which he replies "he went to lunch."
"well...when will he be back"
"dunno."
at that point i walked out. I called about the issue and was given a run around.
anyways. thats ONE of my stories with sprint, in the ing 3 months i was with them. i have MANY MANY more. and their corporate branch is just as bad as the stores, i've been told so many contradicting things by sprint associates on the phone that i have literally found myself saying to them in barely hidden anger "HOW CAN ONE OF YOU TELL ME ONE THING AND THEN THE NEXT GUY AFTER THE TRANSFER SAYS THE OPPOSITE?! are you people even working for the same company?!"
anyways, i've had t-mobile since the release of the galaxy s2, and called in several times to change my features and they have been nothing but friendly informative and helpful. I've heard a bunch of **** talked about how the Tmo version of the GS2 is inferior to the others, but i have faith in the good people on these forums to correct most of those inferiorities which i believe are mostly software issues arising from the Tmo version having a different processor than the other versions.
so yeah sorry for the ungodly long post, but i am another sprint customer recently gone to tmobile and just wanted to share a little bit of my experience. here's a short list of ADDITIONAL pros, and the cons.
PROS.
1. WAY faster data, at least in my area. Went from CRAWLING 3g, and no 4g to being able to torrent via my tether when my cable went out. Achieving 9mbps according to speedtest app, never tested on sprint, but it was browsing speeds, AT BEST. took youtube videos AGES to load. Tmo 4g is about half the speed of my home wifi connection, which is impressive.
2. PRO/CON: better service in populated areas, but service does cut out earlier whenever you drive out into middle of nowhere parts. Also, much more continuity between service and data connection. With sprint, lots of service. Mobile data cuts out LOTS. Tmo data pretty much works until you have no service whatsoever, or at least close to that point.
CONS.
1. QUALCOMM processor instead of the one samsung meant for this device. LOTS of info about what this means as far as detrimental effects on device performance ALL OVER this particular forum.
2. Screen Issues...also, look in this forum.
3. No truly unlimited data plan (best you can get is 5 gb then down to EDGE speeds...which suck.)
UPDATE: The Verge has a hands on with the Verizon Nexus. Should be out later this month.
Source:http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/3/2...ands-on?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
UPDATE: Here's a video of the VZW Nexus, rumored for a Dec 11 BestBuy Launch. Bootloader UNLOCKED
Source:http://youtu.be/iPzoSgTYxc4
UPDATE: Droid-Life has press shots of the VZW Nexus, eat your heart out.
Source: http://www.droid-life.com/2011/11/30/official-verizon-galaxy-nexus-press-shots-revealed/
UPDATE: Droid-Life has an interesting comparison chart which pegs the LTE Nexus coming in a 32GB flavor with "no OEM customization". Although it's nothing new, it does confirm a few things. Also, bear in mind carrier apps are NOT an OEM skin, so they might still be present.
Source: http://www.droid-life.com/2011/11/2...y-nexus-as-a-phone-with-no-oem-customization/
UPDATE: Droid-Life and other sites have gotten seen an ad for the LTE Nexus and it appears to have a $199.99 price tag. While some people assume that this is the price for the 16GB LTE Nexus, I feel that this is going to be the price of the 32GB version, as it lacks an SD card. As stated before, many LTE Nexus testers are denying that VZW is going to release a 16GB version, and this also coincides with what review sites are saying as well. Also, NegriElectronics have stated that they have heard from an inside VZW source that they will have a shipment to sell on Dec 9th. This means that VZW will have it at the latest by this date and maybe earlier, refuting the claim that it has a Dec 8th release date.
Source: http://www.droid-life.com/2011/11/2...xus-for-199-on-black-friday-according-to-ads/
UPDATE: The Picture of the LTE Nexus can be seen on droid-life.com. It's back in black.
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/11/23/thickness-comparison-lte-vs-gsm-galaxy-nexus/#more-53902
UPDATE: The LTE Model of the Nexus is now running 4.0.2 as reported by P3Droid (VERY reputable insider who actually has an LTE Nexus at this time). It is unclear on if it's just a bugfix or if it makes the phone faster. Leaning toward bugfixes considering it's a small jump.
UPDATE: The phone will be released in December, NOT 11/27 or 12/1 as reported by some. Also, the "Ghost Volume Bug" does NOT occur on the LTE Nexus so far, and does not occur on the GSM Nexus in the States either (900mHz bug as stated in the other threads).
Alright, I know many are wondering what is happening with this screwed up launch and why the Galaxy Nexus is taking so long to arrive here in the states, so I thought I would consolidate all the information in one thread.
First, I would like to address the LTE Nexus.
This phone IS CONFIRMED to arrive in a 32GB flavor and be exclusive to Verizon in the states. Now, considering that Verizon has no Galaxy S2 variant of their own, it is almost 100% likely that they made a deal with Google. The reason Google agreed to it was simply for the LTE hookup, because Verizon is the only carrier with "4G" and Sprint is dumping their WiMAX.
The official page @ http://www.google.com/nexus/#/tech-specs has seemed to confuse a bunch of people, as it now only says 16GB for all models, but this is probably incorrect. Firstly, it erroneously states "Varies" on Network, when it's a confirmed Verizon Exclusive, at least for the LTE/CDMA variant.
Now, for why it is delayed:
This seems to be a collaborative failure on both Google and Verizon's part. black_man_x (a very connected mobile phone insider) says:
Not placing the blame all on Verizon.. there are screw ups on both sides.
but it looks to be much more on Verizon's end than Google and Samsung's
If you can't code your ****ty carrier apps to work with a device or OS.. is that our issue or yours? #justsaying
to be honest everyone is tired of vzw bull****. device is no longer a nexus due to their dumb ass games.. Unlocked works great on att..
and my favorite:
I'm tired of these "technical issue" rumors about the nexus delay.. Should just bring back the google.Com/phone address back
to back up the storage, he actually tested the 32GB LTE model and says there is no 16GB option for VZW:
As for the storage question.. would vzw release a cheaper less mem model and still charge the same amount? Does that answer your question?
So, with that being said, don't hold your breath on Verizon. They're the first carrier to actually put branding all over the Nexus line, so much so that they REMOVED the "Google" logo entirely for their logo.
So, Verizon faithfuls and hopefuls, what's your take on this whole launch fiasco?
Waiting is annoying but its not like Verizon themselves came out and said it's coming out and specific date so it really hasn't been pushed back
True you can't push back what was never announced but that's just a Catch-22 and is complete BS to me.
I'm on Verizon right now with my Droid Charge. I really really want this phone, but verizon seems to be screwing everything up. As the days go on, it's making me want this phone less and less because I don't want to support Verizon for all their messed up policies and actions.
That sounds about how I expected the situation. VZW screwing things up and trying to take control, Google letting it happen because they have no other LTE option.
I mean, I would understand the need to test the phone, but come on! It's been announced since forever and I don't want the LTE version, just the GSM version. They should have done it like the Nexus S and released the CDMA 4G version later.
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If the above is true... Gotta wonder if the 32gb version was part of a Vzn negotiated deal to encourage sales to buyers of unlocked devices. In any event 32gb unlocked devices should be available.
With the way Vzn has honked things up, I can only hope the clock is ticking on Vzn's exclusivity.
You should have an option for "want LTE but not on Verizon" - AT&T (crappy as they can be, I know) have what, 11 cities now with LTE and an "aggressive" rollout for it in 2012? I'd rather have an LTE GN on AT&T- were this a perfect world, but I am sure they would try to bloat it just the same... [no Verizon 3G or 4G officially here in the eastern panhandle of WV]
I sure hope it comes out soon before the verizon double data promotion expires. I really don't like Verizon but they have the best coverage and data speeds in my area, plus 4G LTE.
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I sure hope it comes out soon before the verizon double data promotion expires. I really don't like Verizon but they have the best coverage and data speeds in my area, plus 4G LTE.
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Im right there with you. T-mo has a lot of black holes in places i go in chicago lately, and my with my wife's corp. discount, verizon will be $1 more per month for basically the same plan. I'm ready to switch if they would just release it already.
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Im right there with you. T-mo has a lot of black holes in places i go in chicago lately, and my with my wife's corp. discount, verizon will be $1 more per month for basically the same plan. I'm ready to switch if they would just release it already.
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I also forgot to mention that I would get a 19 percent discount with my employer, so that makes the basic 4 GB (double data plan) like 70 something dollars, which I pay for now like 84 unlimited data with sprint (although unusable data because sprint sucks right now). I'll probably opt for the 10 gig plan because I plan on using the hell out of the 4G when I get it.
As a VZW customer I hate all of this. I've never had to go through anything like this with other carriers but, admittedly; I've never waited on a phone before it launched. All my previous nexus phones were with T-mobile and, I bought them after release.
It's pretty frustrating but, there's nothing I can do about it. I don't actually need a new phone like some people. However, I do wish I had stayed with T-mobile, if I had; the Galaxy nexus would be on it's way from Handtec now. I also had great service with T-mobile in my city and, the HSPA+ was really fast.
Those of you switching to Verizon I simply cannot fathom a tiered data plan on LTE. That's just insane to me.
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You should have an option for "want LTE but not on Verizon" - AT&T (crappy as they can be, I know) have what, 11 cities now with LTE and an "aggressive" rollout for it in 2012? I'd rather have an LTE GN on AT&T- were this a perfect world, but I am sure they would try to bloat it just the same... [no Verizon 3G or 4G officially here in the eastern panhandle of WV]
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AT&T LTE is so far out from being widespread that the Nexus 4 will be out by then, along with the GS3 and HTC's "we-ran-out-of-names, with BEATS audio".
Don't get me wrong, I was dying for a GSM/LTE model, but it wouldn't be practical now.
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Those of you switching to Verizon I simply cannot fathom a tiered data plan on LTE. That's just insane to me.
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Well this is my situation right now: I can either switch to Verizon and have usable, high speed, capped data. Or I can stay with Sprint and have unlimited, unusable data.
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Well this is my situation right now: I can either switch to Verizon and have usable, high speed, capped data. Or I can stay with Sprint and have unlimited, unusable data.
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That's about where I'm at, except with a ****ty old HTC Hero also.
Damn guys that just stinks. No way around that one.
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Damn guys that just stinks. No way around that one.
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Yeah no kidding. Ever since 2010 the service has just gotten worse. I mean Sprint is going to improve and by the end of 2013 they (in theory) will have the best LTE and 3G network, I just don't want to pay for the unusable service until then. Hopefully it will be unlimited still.
At this point I'm just tired paying 80+ bucks a month for a service I'm not getting.
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Yeah no kidding. Ever since 2010 the service has just gotten worse. I mean Sprint is going to improve and by the end of 2013 they (in theory) will have the best LTE and 3G network, I just don't want to pay for the unusable service until then. Hopefully it will be unlimited still.
At this point I'm just tired paying 80+ bucks a month for a service I'm not getting.
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lol "best" LTE and 3G is a joke. They won't ever be best because they don't have the funding to be the best. They need to stop thinking they can actually compete with Verizon and AT&T. They could have the best service in the world, but they don't have, and can't get, the numbers required to be the best.
Just have your work pay for your Verizon line like I do.
G2x - 2.3.7 CM7
Transformer - 3.2 Revolver OC/UV
I moved from Verizon to Sprint because of
1) price
2) unlimited data, talk...
3) Samsung Galaxy SII
1) Well, let's say price is ok, unlimited usage is good, but the internet is not as good as Verizon, so I don't use it too much
2) I don't care if I have unlimited everything if the connection is not reliable.
It's BETTER than T-Mobile though (T-Mobile sucks so bad), but it's nowhere NEAR as good as Verizon
3) Phone SUCKS. Today is the first day I FINALLY was able to
a) root phone
b) Fix the signal issue
I went to Sprint and they offered me $100 credit so I can stay with them, and now my phone is fixed, so in theory I feel like giving them another try
With Verizon, the bill was expensive, I do remember in my family, we paid $260 for 1 smartphone and two simple phones, that's ridiculous
Anyway, if I move by myself to Verizon in order to have the Ice Cream Sandwich phone,
1) Is the 2X data offer from Verizon a good offer to come back to the big red?
2) Any chance I can root the phone and not pay for tethering on Verizon?
3) Is that phone a SUPER PHONE that really deserves all the hassle
To be honest, I really like my Samsung, and now that I fixed the loss of signal error (hopefully, first day after I upgraded), I kind of want to use my phone for a while
I really like the phone itself, but again, I have no idea if the other phone is better than mine, and if it is, how much better?
If Verizon still had unlimited data plans and you have the money for that bill, I would say go to Verizon. LTE is awesome! If I ever went to Verizon now, it would be for a non smartphone and I just wanted good phone service/signal. You'll definitely get faster data speeds on Verizon but having a 2GB cap is painful. And with LTE, you're bound to reach the cap faster unless your consistently on wi-fi. Tethering would just hit your data cap even faster. Unless you plan to get a more expensive plan than 2GB ($30 per month). I mean if money isn't an issue I would choose Verizon. But I got a family to feed and I'm good with Epic Touch on Sprint's unlimited data. I happen to get 4G at home and at work. The 3G isn't slow on my phone but it's not special either.
I read that Sprint is planning LTE in the future. We'll just have to see! If they do switch to LTE and KEEP their UNLIMITED DATA & don't jack up prices on the plans, they will get more people coming to Sprint over other carriers.
What phone sucks? If you are referring to the et4g then yeah go get bent by Verizon. This RIG rocks. Also the G nex only has 16GB internal no sd card slot. Wtf I would fill that in about ten minutes. Geesh is ICS that important.
Noo the galaxy nexus has 32g. If u live in a 4g area I say go for it. But then again how much is 4gigs when ur blazing 4g speeds good thing the galaxy nexus has that data limiter! !
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I also read that Sprint will begin rolling out a TD-LTE network next year...supposedly it should be faster than standard LTE so i will be sicking around for It
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If Verizon still had unlimited data plans and you have the money for that bill, I would say go to Verizon. LTE is awesome! If I ever went to Verizon now, it would be for a non smartphone and I just wanted good phone service/signal. You'll definitely get faster data speeds on Verizon but having a 2GB cap is painful. And with LTE, you're bound to reach the cap faster unless your consistently on wi-fi. Tethering would just hit your data cap even faster. Unless you plan to get a more expensive plan than 2GB ($30 per month). I mean if money isn't an issue I would choose Verizon. But I got a family to feed and I'm good with Epic Touch on Sprint's unlimited data. I happen to get 4G at home and at work. The 3G isn't slow on my phone but it's not special either.
I read that Sprint is planning LTE in the future. We'll just have to see! If they do switch to LTE and KEEP their UNLIMITED DATA & don't jack up prices on the plans, they will get more people coming to Sprint over other carriers.
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I love it, sprint is rolling out faster LTE. lol when I hear fanboy comments. That's not a good justification that sprint "will" have LTE. I USED to be a sprint customer, I used it along with my Verizon, then after about 10 days I realized what a mistake I made. At least in my area, 3G was painfully slow, no 4G in sight, and just a bad experience. Idk why sprint went with wimax and how they failed so badly. At the time it was a decent move as it is SOMEWHAT faster than 3G, but still not even as fast as T-Mobile's synthetic 4G. With that said if u want to be able to see INSANE speeds I would make the move back to VZW. I know ill get the whole "pics or it didn't happen" but Verizon can pull 40+MB/s down and up to 50 at time ls and I've seen 20 up. These aren't flukes, it can be replicated. Several times over. I know the argument that sprint has unlimited 4G, but what good is that when its on a network(WiMax) that will be useless in the next 18 months? Agreeing with and above poster it will be insanely easy to blow thru 4GB(assuming vzw still has double the data promo) on VZW bc it downloads stuff so fast that u won't hesitate to download that 1GB or larger file. If u have no regards for money, by all means Verizon is your best bet. By the end of 2013 vzw will have 4G in places that sprint, tmo l, or att have rarely had 3G. I have traveled across the entire US, several times from the east coast to the west and it does happen, but is very rare that vzw loses service. Rarely is 3G even lost. I was a bit harsh earlier on sprint, as they are a solid wireless provider but the term in this particular place "u get what u pay for" applies. At least in the case of Verizon. As I stated earlier in my post. If u have the Money, search the forums BC there are still a few loopholes to find unlimited on vzw, it is worth every penny u can throw at it.
With that said, I'm about 20 miles outside of a 4G area so I don't use it daily. However, I use it enough to know how good it is. Obviously I'm typing this from the dinc2, which isn't 4g. But the bionic is.
Before I commit to leaving 4G on all the time they are gonna have to finish the next Gen of lte radios BC the battery life on all 4G phones(vzw or not) leaves something to be desired.
Lastly, I do not agree that the E4GT sucks. IMHO its the best out of the entire GS2 line.
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Obviously I'm typing this from the dinc2, which isn't 4g. But the bionic is.
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You must not have heard all the complaints about the Bionic.
Never change companies for a phone or OS. What's hot today is next weeks crap. You change because a company serves your area better.
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What I'm kind of wondering is why are you posting in the Sprint Epic 4g Touch forum when you're so biased against Sprint while also using an Incredible 2 on Verizon? Regardless, your prerogative.
Anyways, one of my techs has been asking me this exact question for days now as he wants the Galaxy Nexus. I'll tell you exactly what I told him.
First off, you're going to be spending a lot more money per month on Verizon's plan to begin with, that's less money down the road for a better device when the one you're currently using becomes outdated. Yes, I've used LTE, and dear god it is fast and nice. Through all appropriate channels, though, you can only get a maximum of 4GB cap at the standard $30 data price. This cap can be blasted past within minutes, not weeks, not days, not even hours. While the rebuttal may be "Well I'm always within WiFi range anyways, so I wouldn't need to use my LTE," that's fine and dandy. If that's the case, then why are you switching? Use the WiFi now and boost the data speeds you continue to complain about. These times are getting to be the "I want" and no longer the "I need" generation as everything we might "need" can be done without issue on the 3G network, we just want to do it faster. Patience is a virtue, and it will pay off. Sprint, regardless of what the haters say, is rolling out an LTE network. It will serve its purpose. Staying with it will secure you your unlimited data, 20 month upgrades and build you tenure with the carrier. They are much more likely to assist you in the future if they see you stuck with them through rough times instead of bouncing around carriers with every new gadget that hits the market. The devices on Verizon/AT&T/T-Mobile really do not even justify making the switch. Our Epic 4G Touch matches and/or blows their specs away, including the Galaxy Nexus. Its camera is a slight bit improved, screen has a little bit better contrast and DPI (which we have workarounds to compare with it), but everything else is on par with one another. Keep in mind we have a wonderful group of developers supporting this phone that will be providing us with ICS quickly while adding in their unique flavors to enhance an already spectacular experience on our phones. This is the way of XDA.
If things are absolutely terrible and you have no Sprint coverage where you are, then making the move might be a good option. Otherwise, you're more likely to benefit from riding it out for another year.
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This was 1 helluva ****in answer!!!! I could'nt have said it any better. Besides, while they're chasin that Galaxy Nexus, Sprint will have it too soon enough.
Verizon will never get love from me. 10-20 dollar text messaging plans are a scam... period
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What I'm kind of wondering is why are you posting in the Sprint Epic 4g Touch forum when you're so biased against Sprint while also using an Incredible 2 on Verizon? Regardless, your prerogative.
Anyways, one of my techs has been asking me this exact question for days now as he wants the Galaxy Nexus. I'll tell you exactly what I told him.
First off, you're going to be spending a lot more money per month on Verizon's plan to begin with, that's less money down the road for a better device when the one you're currently using becomes outdated. Yes, I've used LTE, and dear god it is fast and nice. Through all appropriate channels, though, you can only get a maximum of 4GB cap at the standard $30 data price. This cap can be blasted past within minutes, not weeks, not days, not even hours. While the rebuttal may be "Well I'm always within WiFi range anyways, so I wouldn't need to use my LTE," that's fine and dandy. If that's the case, then why are you switching? Use the WiFi now and boost the data speeds you continue to complain about. These times are getting to be the "I want" and no longer the "I need" generation as everything we might "need" can be done without issue on the 3G network, we just want to do it faster. Patience is a virtue, and it will pay off. Sprint, regardless of what the haters say, is rolling out an LTE network. It will serve its purpose. Staying with it will secure you your unlimited data, 20 month upgrades and build you tenure with the carrier. They are much more likely to assist you in the future if they see you stuck with them through rough times instead of bouncing around carriers with every new gadget that hits the market. The devices on Verizon/AT&T/T-Mobile really do not even justify making the switch. Our Epic 4G Touch matches and/or blows their specs away, including the Galaxy Nexus. Its camera is a slight bit improved, screen has a little bit better contrast and DPI (which we have workarounds to compare with it), but everything else is on par with one another. Keep in mind we have a wonderful group of developers supporting this phone that will be providing us with ICS quickly while adding in their unique flavors to enhance an already spectacular experience on our phones. This is the way of XDA.
If things are absolutely terrible and you have no Sprint coverage where you are, then making the move might be a good option. Otherwise, you're more likely to benefit from riding it out for another year.
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Well said, I left Verizon for Sprint, because of the amazingly piss poor customer service (curiously when I was porting my number they finally treated me pretty well).
Their data speeds were fast but I never got anywhere near 40 MB/s down, for me it was always still faster to use wifi whenever possible. And, the phones I had (Droid X, Thunderbolt) generally sucked.
When you factor all that in with the higher prices my decision was an easy one. However, only you can make the decision that is right for you, best of luck either way.
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What phone sucks? If you are referring to the et4g then yeah go get bent by Verizon. This RIG rocks. Also the G nex only has 16GB internal no sd card slot. Wtf I would fill that in about ten minutes. Geesh is ICS that important.
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dude it rocks now, December 15th
it's been a sucky phone for the last two months, EVERY SINGLE DAY I have to reboot it
Loss of signal
Ok, here are a few things I have in mind
1) Nobody mentioned if I can have free tethering at Verizon
2) what about LCD Root?
I have that program in my Samsung Galaxy S II Epic 4G Touch and man the screen in my phone is the best screen I've EVER had EVER
I love my phone, now with the loss of service fixed, FINALLY I have a nice Samsung Galaxy S II
But part of me thinks, man, I've been waiting for SG II since April 2011.
Maybe this month I can go to Verizon and get a nice phone that will serve me well for 2012?
I already waited way way way too much for SGII
I am going to see how much it costs to go back to Verizon, I suppose that if I can tether for free, with root, hack, whatever, then that would make me change in no time
What I don't like about Verizon is the plans.
WIth Sprint I can talk 10 hours per day, no problem
with Verizon I think unlimited costs $79 and data costs $30, insurance $10, txt $20... keep adding and adding you're talking about $130-$150 for unlimited everything (and still it's not unlimited because of 4GB Data Cap)
With Sprint I do like the fact that it's really unlimited, and it's cheap
But I just feel that SGII was a phone for 2011
Samsung Nexus is the phone for 2012
So I might as well switch now that the device is ready
Anyone agrees?
Edit: here's a detailed break down I read about the text plan, smh.
You can spend $25 for 2GB of mobile data which they claim ends up being about 80MB per dollar which then translates to 500,000 text messages each 160 characters long. We’ll bet you seldom hit the 160 character mark which makes this even worse. Now take that dollar and divide it by the number of texts and each one probably costs $0.000002 or two ten thousandths of a cent. That isn’t very much. If you send 5,000 texts in month then those texts cost about $0.01 – a penny.
Point proven...
PLUS a 30 dollar data plan?
Go ahead, go on down that road...
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Don't use too much of that fast lte or you will go over your data cap.
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How fast would 2GB go if you wanted to flash Cyanogen nightlies right to your phone?
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motorsports601 said:
Noo the galaxy nexus has 32g. If u live in a 4g area I say go for it. But then again how much is 4gigs when ur blazing 4g speeds good thing the galaxy nexus has that data limiter! !
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Lol, where did you hear it has 32gb?? I hope you're not getting it because you will only walk away said with only 16gb.
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How fast would 2GB go if you wanted to flash Cyanogen nightlies right to your phone?
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I couldn't even download all of my google music library
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Ok, here are a few things I have in mind
But I just feel that SGII was a phone for 2011
Samsung Nexus is the phone for 2012
So I might as well switch now that the device is ready
Anyone agrees?
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I disagree. Honestly? There isn't that much difference in performance between the SGS II and the Galaxy Nexus. The biggest difference really is ICS, and, hopefully, it won't be too terribly long before we with the E4GT have ICS. That, and a higher DPI screen, which is marginally larger (0.15").
I know that I have never been doing something on my E4GT and been cursing my phone for being slow and laggy. The only thing that is slow is the network, and that's mostly because I live in an area where about half the time, I only have 1x, and not 3g. Granted, the 3g isn't as fast as verizon, but for me, it's acceptable. Even when it's clocked down to 800 mHz (which mine does below 50% battery) it still flies. I changed to the E4GT because it was a big step up from the OG Epic. That big step simply does not exist from the E4GT to the Galaxy Nexus.
No i disagree.
1.The phone will come to other carriers.
2. $50 dollars more a month really worth it for the new "phone" Thats 600 the first year.
I'm thinking about doing the same jumping ship to Verizon to get the Galaxy Nexus. I have no kids and a good job. Also I can get a 22% monthly corporate discount and 25% of accessories too. I was thinking about the 10gb(don't even use 3gb a month) for $50. I can get rid of my home internet and tether off that phone. If y'all had the opportunity to do this switch, would you do it?
I have not found my answer from hours and hours of searching. You do not need to unlock phone before SIM install but you do have to change apn settings
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finally had a friend on facebook call them for me and trouble shooted im good to go no unlock needed for ATT or Tmobile
Not bad considering on only paying $45 a month
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I iwsh I would have seen your question, could have let you known that. AT&T MVNOs don't need an unlock code for AT&T phones. Sorry i couldn't help.
justin860 said:
Not bad considering on only paying $45 a month
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I've ready WAY too many bad reviews of straight talk to cancel my AT&T plan and use their network. All the reviews state that you get what you pay for, half the price, half the service. If anything goes wrong with their service they provide zero help. I'm not sure how they can get away with tagging onto other service providers networks. I'll just use my company's 22% discount and keep my grandfathered unlimited plan.
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I've ready WAY too many bad reviews of straight talk to cancel my AT&T plan and use their network. All the reviews state that you get what you pay for, half the price, half the service. If anything goes wrong with their service they provide zero help. I'm not sure how they can get away with tagging onto other service providers networks. I'll just use my company's 22% discount and keep my grandfathered unlimited plan.
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Today is day three and I can honestly say that I love it it's just like having my old plan we do not have LTE here anyways but now I have unlimited minutes unlimited text and 4g Internet which is plenty for me even if it is only 2.5 or so gigs. Everywhere I used my phone besides my car has Wi-Fi access so I'm constantly connected to Wi-Fi saving about $100 a month on my plan is absolutely amazing to me and I will use that money for other things. The only downfall is I lose my warranty from my cell phone and I also do not get upgrades but that's okay. Saving over $1200 a year is good enough for me. Unlimited text messaging and 3 GB Internet cost me more than this whole plan itself
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My wife was on it for a month with the iPhone 4. She claims she had a lot of problems with SMS, MMS (had to hack it to work), calling and data. Things that never happened to her before. To me is sounded like issues I always had with At&t, I recently switched to a company phone I personally can't comment on the service. I had another friend that switched his wife over also and for the most part she hasn't had many issues but there are some. I will be switching her over to T-Mobile prepaid next week (with the Galaxy Nexus :victory.
She had issues with the MMS because it was a known issue between iPhones and MVNOs. There are guides out there, but yeah, iPhones need to be jailbroken to work properly.
As for the service, ST is excellent, if you know what you're doing. You're paying $45/month, but you're on your own. Don't expect tech support for network issues (which AT&T's idiots can't give anyways), but calls, coverage, speeds are all the same as AT&T's HSPA network.
TBay, as far as how they "get away with" providing their service, are you unaware of how MVNOs actually work?
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She had issues with the MMS because it was a known issue between iPhones and MVNOs. There are guides out there, but yeah, iPhones need to be jailbroken to work properly.
As for the service, ST is excellent, if you know what you're doing. You're paying $45/month, but you're on your own. Don't expect tech support for network issues (which AT&T's idiots can't give anyways), but calls, coverage, speeds are all the same as AT&T's HSPA network.
TBay, as far as how they "get away with" providing their service, are you unaware of how MVNOs actually work?
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Not really, could you tell me? All I have heard is that they use other network providers cell towers for service. Seems sketchy to me.
All I know is it feels just like my old AT&T service but at 1/3 of the price. I had att for 5 years and I notice no difference
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Never mind
I have ST working on locket AT&T SGS3.
However.
From the start I had issues activating my SMS and data (it was on older Captivate phone). It took me and ST three weeks to figure it out. So if u r patient - go with ST. I got their 1 year prepaid (slightly cheaper than monthly).
T-mo offers 100min/UnlimSMS/UnlimNet for $30/mo prepaid. Good for teens.
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I have ST working on locket AT&T SGS3.
However.
From the start I had issues activating my SMS and data (it was on older Captivate phone). It took me and ST three weeks to figure it out. So if u r patient - go with ST. I got their 1 year prepaid (slightly cheaper than monthly).
T-mo offers 100min/UnlimSMS/UnlimNet for $30/mo prepaid. Good for teens.
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I would rather have the T-Mobile plan instead of what I have but I love AT&T service I do not get T-Mobile service at all at my job and I get maybe one bar at my house . AT&T and Verizon are the only two companies that work at my job everything else there's no signal
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Last time I thought about moving to ST I had to buy a $199 phone just to get the sim card. Has it changed to where I can get a sim card without buying a crap smartphone?
Yes
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cheetablaze said:
Last time I thought about moving to ST I had to buy a $199 phone just to get the sim card. Has it changed to where I can get a sim card without buying a crap smartphone?
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Yes I'm using my sgs3 with their micro SIM
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well this is my experience with straight talk
i been using it for a year i first start with the original nokie e71 it was good but i wanted something more like android...so i did buy a lg thrive on gophone store...put my sim on it and everything was working plus i was using android on at&t network for only $45+tax before i was paying between $100 and $120 for a 3G phone it was good excellent customer service but too much for my pocket...
ok then i decided to try a better phone samsung infuse i sold the lg and i got the infuse even better i was getting speeds 4mb average on 4G now i had use too many phones..galaxy s2 ,galaxy 2skyrocket,iphone4 and now my galaxy sIII which gave me speeds maximun at 11MB at my town no problems with straight talk the only thing that frustrate is monitoring data you should not use more that 2g at month or 100mb at day..but come on for $45 1/2 of the price i did pay for the same service...
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11fabe said:
well this is my experience with straight talk
i been using it for a year i first start with the original nokie e71 it was good but i wanted something more like android...so i did buy a lg thrive on gophone store...put my sim on it and everything was working plus i was using android on at&t network for only $45+tax before i was paying between $100 and $120 for a 3G phone it was good excellent customer service but too much for my pocket...
ok then i decided to try a better phone samsung infuse i sold the lg and i got the infuse even better i was getting speeds 4mb average on 4G now i had use too many phones..galaxy s2 ,galaxy 2skyrocket,iphone4 and now my galaxy sIII which gave me speeds maximun at 11MB at my town no problems with straight talk the only thing that frustrate is monitoring data you should not use more that 2g at month or 100mb at day..but come on for $45 1/2 of the price i did pay for the same service...
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Are you using the apn settings at the first page of this thread? I am and my data speeds are dismal. Half the time the google play store will not even open.
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If you know someone who is on ST or Net10 or Tracfone or Simple Mobile and they get fast speeds in your home or work and you don't it's because they have a throttle on you. Two things to know if you buy their phone you'll be lucky to get faster than 300kbs prove me wrong I want you to because everyone I know who got their phones can't go over the limit because the throttle right out of the box. Now if you get the sim on your own phone you get what ever speed is available based on phone radio capability and the carrier under the brand. All of those except Simple Mobile are ATT and Simple Mobile is T-Mobile which with an AT&T phone will require you to unlock the phone. All calls ride on any tower available with these mvno's so coast to coast calling (Verizon) level call capability is included via roaming which is unlimited. If you bring your own phone and you start out with fast data and all of a sudden you drop down to 300k or less then you have been throttled. The calls to attempt them to undo that are a waste of time they will not admit you are even being throttled so to fix this you buy a new sim card and keep an eye on your usage then you will be able to get away with a month of 6Gbs of usage or more as some report I speak from experience as this is how I solved the problem. Some of you may say why not just keep your Sim and wait for it to reset because with all of these providers they don't forgive or forget and keep you capped for life as long as you keep that locked sim.
Hope this helps clear the air on how these kind of providers work so you are aware up front. I got capped because I used 12Gb in one day at super fast speeds of 18Mbs which is super fast for these providers compared to Virgin etc. However second time around new Sim I used over 31G the next month no throttle and still fast to this day.
Keep this in mind when you want to go with any of these providers.
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JK
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Now that I think about it, since its no contract; sims are cheap just keep switching sims until they act right with you. Still cheaper than $120 a month on a contract with limits and charges for overages! No taxes either when you pay online.
Sprint and T-Mobile is a crap shoot for service in 50% of the country that is why those two companies have not joined in on the slaughter of our wallets like Verizon and AT&T but just wait and see they will be forced off that horse once Amazon, Netflix, Hulu and Google are done frying them up for dinner with the DOJ anti-trust suits coming their way.
Because if the utilities don't return to their flat rate model it will be impossible for them to survive as their is a massive migration to push corporations to the cloud and no one in any company is going to recommend moving to a cloud if the prices suddenly quad-drippled; if they want to keep their job that is.
They are taking away consumer choice and acting anti competitive favoring their own services for greed instead of competing for your business as that is the old American way.
What we are seeing now resembles the NAZI way of doing business squeeze you until you bleed.
But hey greed is the new American way.
Cheers!
JK
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I here a lot of people talking about just how terrible Sprint service is (myself included). I wanted to know how many of you are thinking of leaving Sprint to go to Verizon, AT&T, etc. I definitely know that I will be switching to Verizon after my 2 year contract is up. I love the SGS3 but hate the service. So...who's with me? lol
living just north of Chicago, i have great signal pretty much everywhere and LTE, so I'm lucky in that aspect. plus i use a ton of 4G data
So I am not planning on leaving, but i know if i had crappy service I'd be looking elsewhere.
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Probably switching my 5 lines to Straight Talk. 2 unlimited and 3 on the lower level. It will save me a nice chunk of change, and upgrade my service. Never had Wimax, and will never have LTE. I just beg Sprint every month for the usable 3G that I had 20 months ago. We aren't on a "list" to get anything. They are forcing my hand
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jamarious34 said:
I here a lot of people talking about just how terrible Sprint service is (myself included). I wanted to know how many of you are thinking of leaving Sprint to go to Verizon, AT&T, etc. I definitely know that I will be switching to Verizon after my 2 year contract is up. I love the SGS3 but hate the service. So...who's with me? lol
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I live in WNY, and actually get pretty decent Sprint service day to day. It prob helps that I have an Airave at home, and am on Wifi both at the office and home. Just renewed for 2 yrs with the Sam's Club $0.96 GS3 deals, renewed both lines on account. Also get 23% discount, and unlimited data...so it's gonna be very hard to leave Sprint any time soon...my entire company is on VZW, and our company gets 17% discount, still not worth giving up unlimited data for!
Never. The service is serviceable but the unlimited data for the price is unbeatable.
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I live in WNY, and actually get pretty decent Sprint service day to day. It prob helps that I have an Airave at home, and am on Wifi both at the office and home. Just renewed for 2 yrs with the Sam's Club $0.96 GS3 deals, renewed both lines on account. Also get 23% discount, and unlimited data...so it's gonna be very hard to leave Sprint any time soon...my entire company is on VZW, and our company gets 17% discount, still not worth giving up unlimited data for!
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Does the AirRave cause you to get dupe SMS' or anything? Mine was acting all nutzo.
I don't plan on leaving. I have Spotty 4G around Indianapolis but the price blows away the only other carrier (Verizon) that I would consider. But I am around wireless the majority of the time and haven't been in a situation where I could not get by with 4G.
I just got my S3 last week from Radio shack for 99 dollars that came with 50 dollar Google Play Credit. That came in handy for stocking up on a few widgets I needed to customize it.
I would be gone if I didn't pay $41 a month for unlimited everything with insurance included. At&t, Verizon, and MetroPCS all have LTE in Sacramento where I live and T-Mobile has HSPA+ 42. Sprint doesn't even know when they are going to start to roll out LTE here. In the meantime my 3G is absolutely pathetic. It is very frustrating to say the least. I'm highly considering Straight Talk or T-Mobile with a unlocked Nexus 4 when my contract is up in June.
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jamarious34 said:
I here a lot of people talking about just how terrible Sprint service is (myself included). I wanted to know how many of you are thinking of leaving Sprint to go to Verizon, AT&T, etc. I definitely know that I will be switching to Verizon after my 2 year contract is up. I love the SGS3 but hate the service. So...who's with me? lol
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Honestly, after 2 years you probably won't feel so strongly about leaving anymore, assuming data is still unlimited.
Sprint now has 100% of clearwire....That makes them the Company with the Biggest Spectrum and SoftBank putting Billions into being the number one, He's that type of Guy, no second in the Game for him, so that means lower cost to be coming, unlimited to stay and All others to Envy us Sprint Users.....Good things come to those who WAIT....lol....
I'm in Hudson County, NJ and prior to Hurricane Sandy, the signal was sketchy at best. After the storm, I have yet to reach two bars of signal at my home. I called Sprint and they said the towers in my area were afffected by storm and they were aware of the situation and trying to get things back to normal. I have yet to see any improvements. Wimax was available here but LTE looks like mid 2013 at best. Since I renewed my contract to get the SIII, I'll be on the hook until 2014 but this will be my last run with Sprint if I dont see significant improvements on their network around here.
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I would be gone if I didn't pay $41 a month for unlimited everything with insurance included. At&t, Verizon, and MetroPCS all have LTE in Sacramento where I live and T-Mobile has HSPA+ 42. Sprint doesn't even know when they are going to start to roll out LTE here. In the meantime my 3G is absolutely pathetic. It is very frustrating to say the least. I'm highly considering Straight Talk or T-Mobile with a unlocked Nexus 4 when my contract is up in June.
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How do you only pay $41??? If that was all I had to pay I wouldnt complain either lol. But I live in Tallahassee, FL and I am lucky to get 300kb/s download speeds, so needless to say, I only use wifi. Also I would only have to pay $15 more to switch to Verizon so thats a no brainer to me.
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Sprint now has 100% of clearwire....That makes them the Company with the Biggest Spectrum and SoftBank putting Billions into being the number one, He's that type of Guy, no second in the Game for him, so that means lower cost to be coming, unlimited to stay and All others to Envy us Sprint Users.....Good things come to those who WAIT....lol....
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So will we be able to use this service with our current phones or do we have to wait and buy newer phones that will have the compatible radios?
burghfan3 said:
Probably switching my 5 lines to Straight Talk. 2 unlimited and 3 on the lower level. It will save me a nice chunk of change, and upgrade my service. Never had Wimax, and will never have LTE. I just beg Sprint every month for the usable 3G that I had 20 months ago. We aren't on a "list" to get anything. They are forcing my hand
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Have you thought of going to page plus? I hear their service is pretty great, not to say that Straight Talks service is not.
alaman68 said:
Never. The service is serviceable but the unlimited data for the price is unbeatable.
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Unlimited Data?? Hahaha when you only get 300kb/s down, unlimited data is useless. I would rather pay $15 more on Verizon and get LTE speeds on have 4gb of data that I will never exceed. I guess it would be a good deal if I lived in an area that had reasonable data speeds tho.
NYHusker said:
I live in WNY, and actually get pretty decent Sprint service day to day. It prob helps that I have an Airave at home, and am on Wifi both at the office and home. Just renewed for 2 yrs with the Sam's Club $0.96 GS3 deals, renewed both lines on account. Also get 23% discount, and unlimited data...so it's gonna be very hard to leave Sprint any time soon...my entire company is on VZW, and our company gets 17% discount, still not worth giving up unlimited data for!
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But unlimited data means nothing unless you can use it. If you are on wifi all the time then unlimited data is worthless to you too. With Verizons "limited" data plan you can get 4gb of data and trust me you will never use that much. But like I told the other guy, if you get reasonable data speeds where you live then Sprints plan IS unbeatable. I only get on average 300kb/s down lol
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Here in the Atlanta, GA area, I get pretty good service since they turned on all the LTE towers. One place I don't get good reception is in my house. I have considered trying to get a free airrave to solve that. I will be sticking with Sprint, unless things suddenly go to pot.
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I'd say that's not bad for 3G inside my house.
2 months ago it was unusable.
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Honestly, since the network vision started my service became alit better. In every way. I had dead spot in my area in one block I would perfect signal the next completely dead, and now it have a 50% increased in sign in all my dead spot. An network vision has been fully deployed. Before making rush decision I would say wait and see what sprint offers with their network upgrades specially now that they 100% clear. And will have 800mghz spectrum too. I say it going to go to number two if they actually able to keep their word with network vision
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Forced to leave sprint
I got forced to leave sprint. I had 4 lines on a shared plan, and they booted my number because of excessive roaming. Now I'm stuck with a pretty new GS3 with no use for it. I ported my number to a dumbphone on straightalk toi save the number. Therefore if anyone wants I have a GS3 (16gig) with a cracked screen that I found after I got my new one through insurance, a GS3 (16gig) that Id be willing to trade both for a decent android GSM phone.
PM me if anyone wants it