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Just wondering if the international version will support AT&T's LTE network. I'm leaning towards no, but am wondering if there will ever be a way to root the phone to get it to work?
I'm getting sick of waiting for the att version and fear the no commitment price tag it might carry.
I've always bought international phones and gotten by with HSPA+ but that's hard to do when AT&T now has full LTE service here.
No. Doesn't have the hardware. I got the international because I am not having a mid-November (projected) wait. I'll use the international for a while and if the ATT version doesn't suck completely, I'll sell and get a 32/64 branded one (assuming it's available).
LTE is nice, but I have used HSPA+ on every other phone (Netflix, Slingbox, tethering) without issue, so I'm not in a super hurry to get it. I'll see how the battery hit looks before signing my life away again.
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No. Doesn't have the hardware. I got the international because I am not having a mid-November (projected) wait. I'll use the international for a while and if the ATT version doesn't suck completely, I'll sell and get a 32/64 branded one (assuming it's available).
LTE is nice, but I have used HSPA+ on every other phone (Netflix, Slingbox, tethering) without issue, so I'm not in a super hurry to get it. I'll see how the battery hit looks before signing my life away again.
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Thanks. Just out of curiosity, how would you buy the Internationale version and then get the AT&T branded version in November? Unless you sell it?
What would be the easiest way to do that?
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Thanks. Just out of curiosity, how would you buy the Internationale version and then get the AT&T branded version in November? Unless you sell it?
What would be the easiest way to do that?
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I'll sell it.
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Thanks. Just out of curiosity, how would you buy the Internationale version and then get the AT&T branded version in November? Unless you sell it?
What would be the easiest way to do that?
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Buy International Version and use now, sell International Version on Craigslist/Ebay (and take a hit because it's used and the branded version with LTE is out) then go buy the AT&T version
I'll at least wait until the end of the week before making any move. AT&T might give more details by the end of the week.
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No. Doesn't have the hardware. I got the international because I am not having a mid-November (projected) wait. I'll use the international for a while and if the ATT version doesn't suck completely, I'll sell and get a 32/64 branded one (assuming it's available).
LTE is nice, but I have used HSPA+ on every other phone (Netflix, Slingbox, tethering) without issue, so I'm not in a super hurry to get it. I'll see how the battery hit looks before signing my life away again.
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note 2 coming out this month for AT&T.
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note 2 coming out this month for AT&T.
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Mid November.
Will be announced next week and available mid november
Guys,
Im planning to buy galaxy note 2 no commitment handset but im confused which one to go for. They are same priced. Since i came to US in fall 2011 i have never used a US locked phone. Im currently using htc hd2 (the legend).
My question is if i buy att phone and then unlock it will flashing new roms etc still be a problem compared to international version. Do they provide only a code to unlock the phone or a complete new rom to flash which removes att bootloader and drivers and makes it like an international version. The only difference i guess is about warranty and lte radio between the two variants. I do not care about lte radio since im mostly connected to wifi but i care a little aboutthe warranty.
Some questions might be stupid since im new to this us version phones so im sorry about it.
Thanx in advance for replying
arzin said:
Guys,
Im planning to buy galaxy note 2 no commitment handset but im confused which one to go for. They are same priced. Since i came to US in fall 2011 i have never used a US locked phone. Im currently using htc hd2 (the legend).
My question is if i buy att phone and then unlock it will flashing new roms etc still be a problem compared to international version. Do they provide only a code to unlock the phone or a complete new rom to flash which removes att bootloader and drivers and makes it like an international version. The only difference i guess is about warranty and lte radio between the two variants. I do not care about lte radio since im mostly connected to wifi but i care a little aboutthe warranty.
Some questions might be stupid since im new to this us version phones so im sorry about it.
Thanx in advance for replying
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Just the code is provided. Only difference between the phones is the radio, hardware wise
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Just the code is provided. Only difference between the phones is the radio, hardware wise
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Ok and so everytime i flash a new rom i flash the att the rom from att thread on xda and there is no way to go back to international version rom so that i can get the updates directly from samsung instead of the carrier. I hope i got this right?
arzin said:
Ok and so everytime i flash a new rom i flash the att the rom from att thread on xda and there is no way to go back to international version rom so that i can get the updates directly from samsung instead of the carrier. I hope i got this right?
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No,you can't install an AT&T Rom on an Int model & vica versa. So, If you have an AT&T model, you can only install AT&T Note 2 ROM's. If you have the Int model, then you can only install the Int Note 2 ROM's. The difference between models is that AT&T LTE band isn't supported on the Int model. So if you want LTE on AT&T then you'll have to get the AT&T model.
Okay thank you guys for your replies.. It indeed cleared my mind. Im gonna pre order no commitment galaxy note 2 from at&t right away so that i get warranty on phone as well..:good::laugh:
similar question> if i buy an unlocked international note 2 like so: http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galax...1355456&sr=8-1&keywords=samsung+galaxy+note+2
can i use it on the AT&T network by popping my current GS3 simcard in there without issue?
See we didn't get screwed this time with the crappy processor. If we did, then I'd be all over the international version. But we get the exact same specs as the International version plus LTE. The only advantage the international version has is that it will get updates faster, but I don't care about that, as I plan to root anyway.
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Ok and so everytime i flash a new rom i flash the att the rom from att thread on xda and there is no way to go back to international version rom so that i can get the updates directly from samsung instead of the carrier. I hope i got this right?
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similar question> if i buy an unlocked international note 2 like so: http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galax...1355456&sr=8-1&keywords=samsung+galaxy+note+2
can i use it on the AT&T network by popping my current GS3 simcard in there without issue?
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Yes, if you get an Int GN2, you can pop in your current GS3 simcard without any issues but you won't get LTE speed.
MattMJB0188 said:
See we didn't get screwed this time with the crappy processor. If we did, then I'd be all over the international version. But we get the exact same specs as the International version plus LTE. The only advantage the international version has is that it will get updates faster, but I don't care about that, as I plan to root anyway.
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I would of gotten the Int GN2 if it supported AT&T LTE but it didn't so I'm going to get the AT&T one.
Looking at the advantages of att GN2 such as warranty and lte radio i preordered one for myself on no commitment basis..gonna get it by nov 9th for which i just cant wait.. I dont care about updates either since im gonna root it too.
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No,you can't install an AT&T Rom on an Int model & vica versa. So, If you have an AT&T model, you can only install AT&T Note 2 ROM's. If you have the Int model, then you can only install the Int Note 2 ROM's. The difference between models is that AT&T LTE band isn't supported on the Int model. So if you want LTE on AT&T then you'll have to get the AT&T model.
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Not true. As long as the partitions are the same on both devices, and considering the hardware between both are mostly the same, it should work fine, as long as the proper modem.bin and kernel is running.
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Not true. As long as the partitions are the same on both devices, and considering the hardware between both are mostly the same, it should work fine, as long as the proper modem.bin and kernel is running.
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I am a power user and i cant live without flashing rom so i cancelled my att preorder and bought and international version for 589$ from newegg..yes 589$.. I got 90$ of on it. Now i l buy insurance worth 55$ from worth ave and m all set to flash roms
im planning to get the at&t version, but im waiting for reviews to come up. that LTE seems like its gonna go through the 3100mah quickly. i got the original at&t note and i hate having to recharge every 11-12hrs. its crazy how late at&t is on the galaxy note 2. tmobile even beat them to it.
I am in need of a new tablet to replace my original kindle fire. I was about to pull the trigger on a Tab S when I saw a blurb about AT&T and an LTE model. If it is right around the corner, I will wait. If it is 2 months down the road, I will go ahead and get the one out now.
Any release dates that you guys know of?
None. Samsung will release when Samsung wants to release.
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None. Samsung will release when Samsung wants to release.
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I think it's more like when AT&T wants to release it..
Well I guess it does not have to be an AT&T one. I read that they were going to be the first to release the LTE version. I would gladly get one from someplace else when it comes to the US.
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Well I guess it does not have to be an AT&T one. I read that they were going to be the first to release the LTE version. I would gladly get one from someplace else when it comes to the US.
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i have 42 days left to return mine and thought about getting a Verizon version. my tablets have always been wifi with my phone as modem when needed but thought it might be nice to have it built in.
sadly i suspect that if i would get a carrier model even if i wanted to pay full retail i would end up with locked bootloader and carrier app garbage all over it?
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i have 42 days left to return mine and thought about getting a Verizon version. my tablets have always been wifi with my phone as modem when needed but thought it might be nice to have it built in.
sadly i suspect that if i would get a carrier model even if i wanted to pay full retail i would end up with locked bootloader and carrier app garbage all over it?
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And slow updates. If ever.
So, my local Non-Corporate Verizon store had a sale this weekend on the Tab S 8.4. I didn't even know this was available for Verizon. The only Tab S on the website is the 10.5 model.
So, searching the web, I have found a few sites listing this model, but not for sale anywhere.
It is SM-T707V. Looks like it has the snapdragon.
As for root or anything custom, will I be out of luck, since no one else has this model to test?
I attached a few images.
Thanks.
As for root, if their was a way to export a copy of your recover img and other stuff then someone can port root. But idk how to pull the files to get root. But your tab s is faster then exynos chipset
I'm about to have the same problem, I think. I'm getting mine from AT&T, and it's another T707. I'm getting the feeling that we'll be SOL when it comes to root, recovery, and roms. :crying:
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I'm about to have the same problem, I think. I'm getting mine from AT&T, and it's another T707. I'm getting the feeling that we'll be SOL when it comes to root, recovery, and roms. :crying:
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I'm more amazed I got such a good deal on it, and that it exists for Verizon. It's not listed anywhere for sale on their website.
I'll keep an eye out for root. Just hope the updates from Samsung are timely.
docchaos said:
I'm more amazed I got such a good deal on it, and that it exists for Verizon. It's not listed anywhere for sale on their website.
I'll keep an eye out for root. Just hope the updates from Samsung are timely.
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I just picked one up too. $99.
So we're out of luck for root?
StingK said:
I just picked one up too. $99.
So we're out of luck for root?
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If we can find a way to pull your recovery. Img and give it to chainfire or beanstown so they can port it. As of now no. I have no idea how to pull the recovery also. Not sure if twrp can work on your device? Is your bootloader locked?
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If we can find a way to pull your recovery. Img and give it to chainfire or beanstown so they can port it. As of now no. I have no idea how to pull the recovery also. Not sure if twrp can work on your device? Is your bootloader locked?
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I have no idea how to check the bootloader.
If you can point me in a direction, I'll do what I can.
Otherwise, I'll just keep an eye on this forum.
Thanks
StingK said:
I have no idea how to check the bootloader.
If you can point me in a direction, I'll do what I can.
Otherwise, I'll just keep an eye on this forum.
Thanks
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Well turn off your device.
Now hold power, home, vol down till it saids warning you are about to install a custom os. Now just press the volup. If you can access that it should be unlock. Now to exit, now do power, home, vol down again and it should reboot.
I think there may be a way to root your model tablets unless the bootloader is unlocked.
My think was since twrp works on the 805 and 705 also, shouldnt that mean they should be the same for all versions of the tab s if the have the same chip? Because twrp was build for the tab s wifi devices but still worked on the lte devices. So what i thought is that they should work for the 807s with unlocked bootloaders the same way they did with the lte tab s. Then if they can get that installed all they need to do is flash supersu zip since cfautoroot does the same. Though this is jist a though but could get you guys root. Highly not recommned you try it thoufg. But just check if your bootloader is unlocked with what i told you and well see if the root method I thought of may start something. But twrp only works on eynos.... So.. Idk
I'd really just be happy with a working root method. A recovery would be nice, but not really necessary for me since there's not likely to be any development for these weird US lte variants.
docchaos said:
I'm more amazed I got such a good deal on it, and that it exists for Verizon. It's not listed anywhere for sale on their website.
I'll keep an eye out for root. Just hope the updates from Samsung are timely.
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Hi, where did you find the T707v? I have looked almost everywhere.
The Galaxy Tab S 8.4 is available for other carriers, but I haven't found it for Verizon.
Thank you if you reply, Jeff
TCC Wireless - http://www2.ecellularconnection.com/
They are a non-corporate Verizon retailer. They seem to be the only ones carrying it.
It is an approved Verizon device, but not sold at Verizon corporate stores. ( I Guess )
Do you know if it is locked to Verizon and also has the LTE bands to work on AT&T?
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Do you know if it is locked to Verizon and also has the LTE bands to work on AT&T?
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Currently getting LTE using my T-Mobile sim. I'll check using an AT&T sim in the morning.
I have one too. Even without root for $100 I couldn't pass it up.
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Currently getting LTE using my T-Mobile sim. I'll check using an AT&T sim in the morning.
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Thanks. Please let me know if the AT&T sim works. I'm trying to find a version of the tablet that works on both Verizon and AT&T.
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Thanks. Please let me know if the AT&T sim works. I'm trying to find a version of the tablet that works on both Verizon and AT&T.
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Thanks. Please let me know if the AT&T sim works. I'm trying to find a version of the tablet that works on both Verizon and AT&T.
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Answered my own question. Got one. Both Verizon and AT&T sim cards work.
Yes they do. I forgot to get on here and post an update. The bad boy is GSM unlocked with full LTE on the major carriers.
You guys all got unicorns (the Galaxy Tab S 8.4 with the Snapdragon). I wish I had seen this thread before I purchased the Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4 a few weeks ago. For some reason my Google Alert didn't pick it up.
I have 2 questions for those who bought the Verizon from TCC Wireless.
1) Was it $99 with a 2 year contract with Verizon or was it $99 straight up no contract?
2) What color is it, white or titanium bronze?
I'm a little disappointed that it only has the Snapdragon 800 instead of the 801 but either of them is better began the Exynos in the other versions.
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You guys all got unicorns (the Galaxy Tab S 8.4 with the Snapdragon). I wish I had seen this thread before I purchased the Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4 a few weeks ago. For some reason my Google Alert didn't pick it up.
I have 2 questions for those who bought the Verizon from TCC Wireless.
1) Was it $99 with a 2 year contract with Verizon or was it $99 straight up no contract?
2) What color is it, white or titanium bronze?
I'm a little disappointed that it only has the Snapdragon 800 instead of the 801 but either of them is better began the Exynos in the other versions.
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1. I don't know since I did not get mine from them.
2. I believe the Verizon model is only available in white.
I'm on AT&T, but no contract so, correct me if I'm wrong, there isn't any reason to buy the note from AT&T. How, as an American, do I buy the international version? The only place I see it is on amazon, where they're charging an extra 100$ for.
Additionally is there any reason not to go with the international version?
Just wait for the N930U. Or shell out the extra $100 for the exynos variant.
I'm personally getting the N930V with Verizon and I'll flash the U firmware later like I did with my S7 edge. You could do the same, unless you're more interested in a potential bootloader unlock.
The 930U is the unlocked American version? When does that even come out? I don't care about the bootloader, I just would prefer the exynos version because it's usually a slight bit better, but I'm not dropping 980$ on it.
The U version of the S7 was still a snapdragon. If you want the exynos, you'll need to get the international version. It's not out so that's probably why it's still pricey. If you want to save some cash just wait for it to be cheaper on Swappa or eBay.
http://m.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Galax...ack-Silver-Gold-Blue-/201637586849?nav=SEARCH
Only $30 more than carrier pricing on eBay.
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Just wait for the N930U. Or shell out the extra $100 for the exynos variant.
I'm personally getting the N930V with Verizon and I'll flash the U firmware later like I did with my S7 edge. You could do the same, unless you're more interested in a potential bootloader unlock.
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How did you flash the U version I thought Verizon has locked bootloaders and you couldn't make modifications ?
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It flashes through Odin. Since it's a stock firmware it flashed over just fine.
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Here's another store selling for even less. I'm not sure if they charge tax though, but either way with any carrier upgrade you're looking at the phone price and tax anyways.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1269581-REG/samsung_n930_black_galaxy_note_7_64gb.html
would it be worth it to spend 100$ more to buy the Exynos version? That's what I am wondering too...
are there any downside?
Isn't there more support for Exynos version and more battery saving?
If you're a Flashaholic like me it is definitely worth getting an unlocked Exynos version with its unlocked bootloader.
But the down side is lack of warranty and some of the frequencies that you're carrier uses may not be available on the International version
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If you're a Flashaholic like me it is definitely worth getting an unlocked Exynos version with its unlocked bootloader.
But the down side is lack of warranty and some of the frequencies that you're carrier uses may not be available on the International version
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Thanks! that's what I was thinking! and Exynos version seems to have better battery as well!
As for frequencies - it looks like they are good for most Canadian wireless companies.
Do we know for sure if Exynos N930F will come with an unlocked bootloader? (still waiting to order mine)
And what about warranty? Isn't Samsung supposed to honor warranty no matter where you buy it from on brand new phones just launched for a year since their launch date (it only makes sense and they used to back in Galaxy S2 days - from experience) *sigh*
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Thanks! that's what I was thinking! and Exynos version seems to have better battery as well!
As for frequencies - it looks like they are good for most Canadian wireless companies.
Do we know for sure if Exynos N930F will come with an unlocked bootloader? (still waiting to order mine)
And what about warranty? Isn't Samsung supposed to honor warranty no matter where you buy it from on brand new phones just launched for a year since their launch date (it only makes sense and they used to back in Galaxy S2 days - from experience) *sigh*
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Nope, from what im seeing they wont honor warranty in the US if you buy an international phone. Thats my major hurdle right now. I would really like to get some type of warranty. Even contacted Squaretrade and they said no. So will try upsie.
it's been a few years since I bought international, last phone was s3, what's the current state of international Samsung phones on att? do we still only get 2 compatible bands? I know theres a thing where you have to use the phone for 5 mins in that country with the country Sim card, anything else I should know about? speed and coverage still good? i been out of the game a bit so I'm playing catch up here.
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If you're a Flashaholic like me it is definitely worth getting an unlocked Exynos version with its unlocked bootloader.
But the down side is lack of warranty and some of the frequencies that you're carrier uses may not be available on the International version
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I am in the same boat as you. Being able to flash my phone and play around with it, is my version of a work day stress reliever. Being an owner of a S7E and my old reliable N4, I cant wait for the N7 to be released. I will be replacing my N4 with it so I need to make sure that the Intl version will be unlocked. Will be following the early reports that will soon start trickling in as units arrive to their new owners.
I may be able to help I'm in Thailand.
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naruto.ninjakid said:
Nope, from what im seeing they wont honor warranty in the US if you buy an international phone. Thats my major hurdle right now. I would really like to get some type of warranty. Even contacted Squaretrade and they said no. So will try upsie.
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I bought the N7 from BHP (link you posted earlier) they have it available for pre-order and in the checkout they offered Square Trade for Warrenty - I also used Square Trade when I purchased the S7Edge (international Version) So I don't think it is giong to be a problem for you if you want to use Square Trade or any other major warrenty program like Upsie. Good Luck
Thanks Alot !
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I bought the N7 from BHP (link you posted earlier) they have it available for pre-order and in the checkout they offered Square Trade for Warranty - I also used Square Trade when I purchased the S7Edge (international Version) So I don't think it is going to be a problem for you if you want to use Square Trade or any other major warranty program like Upsie. Good Luck
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This is why I like this community. Thanks for coming back and updating. This was my biggest issue and you have now solved it. knowing I can get a warranty alleviates the what if's for me. I'm paranoid and always insure my devices even though i have never broken one. So I will be ordering from B&H as well. They seem very knowledgeable on unlocked phone issues from the FAQ and they don't charge tax in some states. All Im waiting for now is to see if Root is coming and development support. I'm on T-Mobile by the way so I will not get VoLTE and WiFi-calling but TEKHD said he will work on that in his ROM so I have some hope. Thanks again.
naruto.ninjakid said:
This is why I like this community. Thanks for coming back and updating. This was my biggest issue and you have now solved it. knowing I can get a warranty alleviates the what if's for me. I'm paranoid and always insure my devices even though i have never broken one. So I will be ordering from B&H as well. They seem very knowledgeable on unlocked phone issues from the FAQ and they don't charge tax in some states. All Im waiting for now is to see if Root is coming and development support. I'm on T-Mobile by the way so I will not get VoLTE and WiFi-calling but TEKHD said he will work on that in his ROM so I have some hope. Thanks again.
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I am on ATT and use the G935F right now on ATT and it works great - I don't knwo for sure if the N930 (note 7) will be unlocked but it seems like it probably will be - I htink the chances are high that the bootloader is unlocked and if that turns out to be true, root is not too far away - just need to get it in the hands of a few devs who do that sort of thing - and all should be good. Fingers Crossed...
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I bought the N7 from BHP (link you posted earlier) they have it available for pre-order and in the checkout they offered Square Trade for Warrenty - I also used Square Trade when I purchased the S7Edge (international Version) So I don't think it is giong to be a problem for you if you want to use Square Trade or any other major warrenty program like Upsie. Good Luck
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would you know if the square trade warranty would apply to people living in Canada as well?
cadcamaro said:
Just wait for the N930U. Or shell out the extra $100 for the exynos variant.
I'm personally getting the N930V with Verizon and I'll flash the U firmware later like I did with my S7 edge. You could do the same, unless you're more interested in a potential bootloader unlock.
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Interesting. What advantages does the U firmware have over the stock Verizon firmware, or are you just getting rid of all the Verizon bloat? Do you lose wifi calling and Samsung pay?
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Interesting. What advantages does the U firmware have over the stock Verizon firmware, or are you just getting rid of all the Verizon bloat? Do you lose wifi calling and Samsung pay?
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You lose all bloatware and Verizon apps. It essentially turns the phone into a stock Samsung expensive.
You will lose any carrier extras like wifi calling VOLTE and Verizon's own vvm service. For some reason they only allow you to install their voicemail apps on their phones. Samsung pay still works though, and to get around the voicemail issue I just use Google voice as a forwarding number if I don't answer. It's honestly better than any carrier voicemail service I've used as there's no extra charges and you get notifications anywhere.
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You lose all bloatware and Verizon apps. It essentially turns the phone into a stock Samsung expensive.
You will lose any carrier extras like wifi calling VOLTE and Verizon's own vvm service. For some reason they only allow you to install their voicemail apps on their phones. Samsung pay still works though, and to get around the voicemail issue I just use Google voice as a forwarding number if I don't answer. It's honestly better than any carrier voicemail service I've used as there's no extra charges and you get notifications anywhere.
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Yeah I use Google voice as well. Great info thanks
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