hey guys!!
im a owner of a Galaxy S3 and im vert disappointed with the memory leaks that it have...
i don't want a phone with huge hardware and fragile memory system...
this is impossible!!
so...moving to LG Optimus G with 2Gb memory ram, it will be the end of the leaks??
What are memory leaks?
Made possible by my sexy LG Optimus 4X HD (P880)
just take a look: http://bestandroidtricks.com/fix-galaxy-s3-memory-leak/
I Think So
may be that will be the option
The memory leaks were only present due to lack of proper documentation from Samsung regarding the Exynos.. Besides, it was fixed a long time back once the source for the GT-I9305 was given by Samsung.
Given the amount of support Qualcomm provides to developers, it is highly unlikely that this would have memory leaks. Though it pretty much hinges on whether this has a locked bootloader or not..
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Hey All
Basically I'm in Australia, on Telstra, and have used my brand new Samsung Galaxy S Vibrant that I bought from a website (Bell version) and it's died. DOA. The black screen internal sd failure.
So, I'm looking for another phone. I'm looking at the Defy. I like how it's like bulletproof (not literally, just I call robust and strong things this lol), it's small, and apparently a battery saver & a very nice zippy little phone.
Downsides that I don't like compared to my SGS:
- Not the best screen (compared to SAMOLED)
- No internal memory
- No HD Video recording
- 800mhz compared to 1ghz Hummingbird (yeah I know, don't always count the Mhz)
- 2.1 and Motorola's dodgy software updating frequency
- Motorola UI
But apart from them, I really like it. Don't want a Desire, it's GPU is on the slow side (apparently Defy is getting faster than SGS in some cases) and my friend has one and he's a pain (lol)
So what's the general view of Defy owners? Do you like it? What are it's genuine downsides?
Girlfriend has a defy and i have a vibrant. Its a nice phone, really. Youll notice its slower cause of blur but i added launcher pro to her device and it fixes that. Custom roms for the defy are being worked on now so you will have a fast phone once a vanilla android experience is ported. It plays any game we throw at it. The screen is but its not bad either! Get it.
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Oh and it has 2 gigs of app memory inside
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Honestly, defy's performances are a lot better than i expected.
Any game or app runs smootly, there's no lags at all except for the Blur UI (but, this is just a blur issue).
Of course, the screen is worst than SAMOLED but you will love it just because it's a big screen in a small phone I really like this feature.
About internal memory (not external SD i mean), defy has 2GB rom (ram is 512mb), you'll have more than 1.2 GB free for your apps.
Overall, a great phone.
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- Not the best screen (compared to SAMOLED)
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It's actually one of the better LCDs around. No idea why people think its average, they should have a look at recent panels found on current HTC phones
I prefer it to the fuzzy pentile LEDs too (SGS: 0.38 Million RB subpixels, Defy: 0.82 Million)
http://www.displaymate.com/Smartphone_ShootOut_1.htm
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- No internal memory
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It's got 2GB (~1.5GB available for apps)
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- No HD Video recording
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Yep, no 720p recording. (but could change in the future.. if the SoC is a 3630 )
alexbob1318 said:
- 800mhz compared to 1ghz Hummingbird (yeah I know, don't always count the Mhz)
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It's a standard OMAP 36xx core which runs at 1.2GHz in the droid 2 global (easy OC on the Defy) and is comparable to the hummingbird. SGX530 is slower than the 540 found in the Galaxy S but has little impact for most games (excluding emulation etc)
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- 2.1 and Motorola's dodgy software updating frequency
- Motorola UI
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Software is Motorolas a main problem area. Motoblur is bloated and kills performance.
2.2 should be released in Q2 2011 (a long long time for a OS update that should've been released with the phone)
The LCD on the DEFY is far from great. I have the SGS Vibrant and make no mistake the screen is better for more reasons that the black levels and color saturation.
This fuzzy text thing is as overblown as it can be. It's not a problem when you're not running off at the mouth about how horrible it isn't..
The LCD on the DEFY has horrible viewing angles as well. `
I have the DEFY and I overclocked it, it runs great overclocked but battery life took a hit in a major way. Secondly -
REPLACING THE LAUNCHER DOES NOT FIX LAG OR REMOVE THE MOTOBLUR INTERFACE.
This is a cancer running rampant, LauncherPro does NOTHING for performance. It does NOT remove MOTOBLUR and it looks terrible with highly gradient colors/shading.
Today in Warsaw Arkadia gallery I had the opportunity to test both Nexus'a 4, as well as the flagship model of the Korean manufacturer LG Optimus G. As for the benchmarks, the results for both phones are very similar to each other. Both models present themselves really well and are solidly constructed. Glass back cover I give a lot of charm to these devices. Liquidity GUI on both systems, it's very fast. The new version of the overlay from LG is really pleasing to the eye and introduces a number of useful features. I spoke to the consulate LG and he admitted that the company had problems with updates, but with the new version of the overlay to appear in future updates much faster. The main difference was in Optimus G 32GB built-in memory, and a 13 Megapixel sensor. A positive surprise for me is the version of the. G Swift working under the control of android 4.1.2. Review Guidelines in all what I could see, was a version of android 4.0.3. First impressions after using both of these phones are very positive. LG has done a good job.
Benchmarks:
GLBenchmark 2.5, Quadrant, Antutu
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/9571951/Nexus 4/Screeny/2012-12-11-19-02-56.jpg
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/9571951/Nexus 4/Screeny/2012-12-11-18-10-31.jpg
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/9571951/Nexus 4/Screeny/2012-12-11-18-14-10.jpg
Now I would like to discuss the thing that disturbed me personally. I also noticed the presence of the Optimus Throttling'u G. Throttling in Google smartphone has been discussed more than once. The basis of this that the fault lies in the side of the drivers, was to compare the operation of a processor in Optimus G. I am the first person who managed to do Stability Test on this unit. The heart of the phone is quad-core Snapdragon S4 clocked at 1512MHz Pro. Unfortunately, there is a lower clock speed on both models, and the temperature difference between the two devices is small. Clock decline occurred almost immediately after starting the test to 1134MHz 1512MHz. After 20 minutes of operation the temperature was 47.8 C. So far it is not known whether the fault lies with the system design, the same processor from Qualcomm.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/9571951/Nexus 4/Screeny/2012-12-11-16-16-49.jpg
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/9571951/Nexus 4/Screeny/2012-12-11-16-20-39.jpg
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/9571951/Nexus 4/Screeny/2012-12-11-16-25-36.jpg
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/9571951/Nexus 4/Screeny/2012-12-11-16-30-22.jpg
What is your opinion on this?
Original post is in Polish. I translated it in google translate. I'll try to improve it later
The only problem driving me crazy is short battery life.
I spoke by phone with LG consultant. The company booth will be available until December 24. This time I can do additional testing. The most imortant thing is that, optimus g have Android 4.1.2
No its not, no 4.1 update yet.
LG promised to roll it out before 2013, but they always speaking in that way.
Vatri91 said:
I spoke by phone with LG consultant. The company booth will be available until December 24. This time I can do additional testing. The most imortant thing is that, optimus g have Android 4.1.2
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So the lg optimus g will be available to Europe from 24 December?
@up
This is a test model. Phone in Poland will be available in January 2013
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Lg optimus G had android 4.1.2, so u expect update soo.
Hi LG guys,
I have general concerns with the amount of dev support that the LG OG series receives. Currently, I am using a Motorola Atrix 4G and I just RECENTLY unlocked the bootloader and rooted it this past weekend and felt a sense of great accomplishment when I completed these tasks after hitting several road blocks. I have to say, I was rather impressed with the amount of relevant information, help, and guides floating around on the Internet a good 1.5 years after its release. I was also impressed with the fact some developers are still working to improve builds.
Unfortunately, I feel a compelled to upgrade my phone since the Atrix 4G does not support LTE. I've been looking at viable options and refuse to go with Apple because I have always loved the Android OS and its possibilities. In fact, I'm even more in love with it now, after being able to put JB on my Atrix.
I did little research and narrowed down my desired upgrade choices to:
Samsung Galaxy S4
LG Optimus G Pro or G2
To be honest, I was set on getting the SGS4 this coming April, however I recently learned that it's likely the S4 will have minimal CM support (if any) and I just can't imagine working with buggy builds for an extended period of time. (I hear the SGS3 still doesn't have a stable CM based build)
So aside from the babble, I was wondering:
1. Is the LG dev community well developed and established? (Might be stupid question to some people, sorry)
2. Does the LG OG line have a stable CM based build?
3. Does LG support the dev community or does it take a Samsung approach (asshole approach) ?
4. How has development and support been for older phones?
5. Does LG commonly make two versions of their flagship phone(s)? [I.E. Samsungs ship with either Snapdragon or Exynos] And which version usually receives a greater amount of developer attention?
6. What's the build quality like on LG OG series? Plastic like Samsung or what? Personal opinions are very welcome.
If anyone else has any info that they feel would further allow me to make a well informed decision, please share it. I know that smartphones are released frequently these days, but I'm still in search for a smartphone that can last me at least 3-5 years (silly I know, but I had a Moto RAZR flip phone forever and loved it). I have yet to find the one ;/
1.The community is given by the users.I guess there is no point in developing for no one, right?So, if there will be many G users, the devs will come too. Right now there a few guys working(thanks for that),but the G(at least the E975 i have) is quite new and it takes time to start things.
2.No, CM is not officially implemented yet.It depends somewhat on 1.
3.Can't really answer that,but,as far as i know, LG is more open to devs than samsung.
4.Why don't you look yourself?Search button is a miracle.
5.No, LG makes only 1 flagship,with differences only in camera,storage and lte modem.There is G with 8mpx,16gb storage+microsd slot and G with 13mpx camera,32gb storage and no micro sd slot.But the CPU/GPU/RAM is identical.
6.G is way better than Samsung's plastics.
In the future can you post questions in the section that says "questions".
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In the future can you post questions in the section that says "questions".
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I thought about it, but I wanted to get as much feedback as possible.
Personally, if I was going to get any phone right now, I would get the HTC one, with the optimus as my second choice. It will likely have more users and more developers due to greater availability. It has superior specifications, a better screen, better build quality, and supposedly better software. Our phone is great too, just not as new or popular. The glass feels great.
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One and optimus are different categories.full hd display vs hd display.compare the one with g pro,s4,xperia z.optimus is top android at medium price.at least here at orange romania,the 975 comes with a super docking station included(LG ND5521).only the dock costs 120 pounds(more than 200 dollars).i payed for my g 300 euros,which a great deal.i could've get the s3 cheaper,but you can't compare them.
I think lg got an unfair bad reputation,since the time lg made phones like chocolate,shine...they were crappy phone,always having issues.but google made the right call and let lg make the nexus4.
Basically,our g is an improved n
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kimitza said:
One and optimus are different categories.full hd display vs hd display.compare the one with g pro,s4,xperia z.optimus is top android at medium price.at least here at orange romania,the 975 comes with a super docking station included(LG ND5521).only the dock costs 120 pounds(more than 200 dollars).i payed for my g 300 euros,which a great deal.i could've get the s3 cheaper,but you can't compare them.
I think lg got an unfair bad reputation,since the time lg made phones like chocolate,shine...they were crappy phone,always having issues.but google made the right call and let lg make the nexus4.
Basically,our g is an improved n
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Similar specs and similar price in most regions.
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I think you should include in your basket HTC ONE (M7) and Xperia Z.
Apart of that.
1. Is the LG dev community well developed and established? (Might be stupid question to some people, sorry) (Not yet, there is a few phones on the market, maybe in the future - People dont like LG, )
2. Does the LG OG line have a stable CM based build? (Not yet, but it will)
3. Does LG support the dev community or does it take a Samsung approach (asshole approach) ? (Neither of them does, but LG seems to be more open about it)
4. How has development and support been for older phones? (Its a market dependent, so, if your phone have been sold a lot, it'll be supported here in XDA, if not, dont expect too much from LG)
5. Does LG commonly make two versions of their flagship phone(s)? [I.E. Samsungs ship with either Snapdragon or Exynos] And which version usually receives a greater amount of developer attention? (LGOG has a lot of model, but basicaly they are pretty much the same, all of them has same processor and screen)
6. What's the build quality like on LG OG series? Plastic like Samsung or what? Personal opinions are very welcome. (My girl has a SGS3 and I'm used to handling it, LG for sure has better built material)
cheers
tungzta said:
Hi LG guys,
I have general concerns with the amount of dev support that the LG OG series receives. Currently, I am using a Motorola Atrix 4G and I just RECENTLY unlocked the bootloader and rooted it this past weekend and felt a sense of great accomplishment when I completed these tasks after hitting several road blocks. I have to say, I was rather impressed with the amount of relevant information, help, and guides floating around on the Internet a good 1.5 years after its release. I was also impressed with the fact some developers are still working to improve builds.
Unfortunately, I feel a compelled to upgrade my phone since the Atrix 4G does not support LTE. I've been looking at viable options and refuse to go with Apple because I have always loved the Android OS and its possibilities. In fact, I'm even more in love with it now, after being able to put JB on my Atrix.
I did little research and narrowed down my desired upgrade choices to:
Samsung Galaxy S4
LG Optimus G Pro or G2
To be honest, I was set on getting the SGS4 this coming April, however I recently learned that it's likely the S4 will have minimal CM support (if any) and I just can't imagine working with buggy builds for an extended period of time. (I hear the SGS3 still doesn't have a stable CM based build)
So aside from the babble, I was wondering:
1. Is the LG dev community well developed and established? (Might be stupid question to some people, sorry)
2. Does the LG OG line have a stable CM based build?
3. Does LG support the dev community or does it take a Samsung approach (asshole approach) ?
4. How has development and support been for older phones?
5. Does LG commonly make two versions of their flagship phone(s)? [I.E. Samsungs ship with either Snapdragon or Exynos] And which version usually receives a greater amount of developer attention?
6. What's the build quality like on LG OG series? Plastic like Samsung or what? Personal opinions are very welcome.
If anyone else has any info that they feel would further allow me to make a well informed decision, please share it. I know that smartphones are released frequently these days, but I'm still in search for a smartphone that can last me at least 3-5 years (silly I know, but I had a Moto RAZR flip phone forever and loved it). I have yet to find the one ;/
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I wont answer all of your questions individually but If I was to buy a phone in the next months, I would go for Sony Xperia ZL. Sony was named OEM of the year for developper support by XDA staff. They have a decent track report of supporting 2011 onward phones.
I also came from a Atrix. It died from the infamous wifi-bootloop-bug-of-death. The LG Optimus G Pro is a Phablet and it might be too large for you. The S4 will likelly get poor developper support since most Cyanogen staff lifted their nose at it.
As of now, the Optimus G dev community is ok but since the phone have yet to be released in Europe, Not many people are working on it. There also is lots different versions of the same phone with some incompatibility. We have CM for the Canadian version but it's not official. Far from it.
Good luck
As some owners says, the new xperia good on paper and terrible in life.
Crappy screen, performance, battery life, a lot of bugs including auto bricks.
i read an article that LG is gonna come out with a new device called LG - Gx wich has the exact same specs as the LG g pro with a little less PPI (401ppi) but with the new jelly bean OS ,
this is more than enough for anyone who has respect for his money to say no in the future to any LG cellular device,
money hungry company who gives a crap and puts even more crap on their costumers over time.
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_gx_goes_official_in_korea_with_55_screen_and_snapdragon_600-news-7375.php
Too early to opine, personaly i take it with a grain of salt......would be surprised that they made a device with the same spec then 2013.....
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Too early to opine, personaly i take it with a grain of salt......would be surprised that they made a device with the same spec then 2013.....
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I'm just hoping it has dev support and we can somehow rip the ROM and run it on the G Pro seeing that most of the hardware is the same.
well it look like I was not right......it seem that lg have made the same phone then the g pro....
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_gx_goes_official_in_korea_with_55_screen_and_snapdragon_600-news-7375.php
to be honest I don't understand much why the lg x have the same spec then the g pro?? the positive point is that we gonna problably be able to port his newest rom in our g pro.. otherwise it not gonna be in the category of "flagship" especialy in 2014...
Hopefully LG will update the G Pro alongside it when it releases, although it is weird that lg is releasing the same phone with just newer software...
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Hopefully LG will update the G Pro alongside it when it releases, although it is weird that lg is releasing the same phone with just newer software...
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They're saving a fortune on software updates since they never update anything. Probably cheaper to just release another device and hope the public buys it. After all, we bought the OG Pro, didn't we and knew full well that no updates would be released.
We can only hope to port its stock rom onto our phone.
Just read that moto G is already receiving the 4.4 update. And v r still on 4.1.2 :banghead:
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I just want my G Pro to have the same vanilla stock kit Kat nexus rom like my n7 and n4 have. This stock LG rom sucks up too much memory.
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The LGOGP has 2GB RAM, it's more than enough for running it lag free (mine running very smooth). With Android 4.3< things will be even better thanks to the new Trim function. From my experience 98% of the time the best rom for any device is based on its official release.
LG making a mistake in the long run not updating their devices.
Hello all
I just bought a out-of-factory conditioned Desire Z on flea market. I had this phenomenal phone 6-7 years ago, and I bought it for 3 euros now
I fell in love again, this device is a lesson to all these new designers what a build quality and designer solutions are.
Reading couple of threads here, I figured, Desire Z became unusable. One can eventually use it for phone calls and SMS.
Seeing that the biggest problem is lack of RAM memory and possibility of upgrading to newer versions of android, couple of things came to mind:
Could it be possible to replace RAM chip ? I know from experience that many board manufacturers make RAM memory on top/underneath CPU chip, but if that is not the case, would it be possible to solder the same BGA layout chip with higher memory ?
Also, a wild idea, but would it be possible to install a board from a newer phone ? Form factor surely is a problem, but for example, LG G2 motherboard is really small, maybe some other motherboard could actually be fit in Desire Z ? If that would be somehow possible, all that remains are few tweaks on the system to make keyboard work.
Has anyone else thought about this, and maybe took it further than just an idea ?