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No LTE for t-mobile gs3

I read that even when t-mobile jumps on the lte band wagon in 2013, that our gs3 phones will not be able to take advantage of the new speeds (what a drag). I'm not sure if this is really the case, but I posted the link to the article below.
http://www.galaxys3newsblog.com/t-mobiles-samsung-galaxy-s3-to-miss-lte-yet-another-dissappointment/

One thing you have to remember you always want to buy a phone that works right now for you not a phone that would work better in the future, I'm happy with hspa+ and by the time I get lte from tmobile I might have another phone anyways so I think I'm cool with that, it bee discuss in another topic too
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This is true. I just thought that I would post this for those who didn't have the benefit of reading the other post. For those that don't change their phones often and intend on keeping the gs3 for some time, I thought that this was good information to help them make a well informed purchase. I hope this helped anyone that didn't know and wants to buy a gs3.

My HSPA+ speeds are consistanly faster than my friends Verizon LTE. Plus HSPA+ uses dramatically less battery. Heres my speeds in Detroit.

jgalan14 said:
One thing you have to remember you always want to buy a phone that works right now for you not a phone that would work better in the future, I'm happy with hspa+ and by the time I get lte from tmobile I might have another phone anyways so I think I'm cool with that, it bee discuss in another topic too
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+1, I owned my T-989 for less then a year before buying my T-999. At this rate I'll buy a T-1000 when it comes out in 6-8 months from now.
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sean48238 said:
My HSPA+ speeds are consistanly faster than my friends Verizon LTE. Plus HSPA+ uses dramatically less battery. Heres my speeds in Detroit.
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Same here in San Diego. Verizon was fast out of the gate but they heavily over-subscribed their network and now they are lame. AT&T is the crazy fast at the moment but I expect them to be in the same boat as Verizon this time next year.

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My HSPA+ speeds are consistanly faster than my friends Verizon LTE. Plus HSPA+ uses dramatically less battery. Heres my speeds in Detroit.
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How the heck do people get such fast download speeds? i downloaded the speedtest app and I'm only pulling about 3-4 thousand kbps with 3 bars of 4G.

m4r10 said:
How the heck do people get such fast download speeds? i downloaded the speedtest app and I'm only pulling about 3-4 thousand kbps with 3 bars of 4G.
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Is disguise you might be only on 3g or hspa not hspa+(what tmobile calls 4g)
This is at my house hspa+
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jgalan14 said:
Is disguise you might be only on 3g or hspa not hspa+(what tmobile calls 4g)
This is at my house hspa+
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My S3 is lying to me???

sean48238 said:
My HSPA+ speeds are consistanly faster than my friends Verizon LTE. Plus HSPA+ uses dramatically less battery. Heres my speeds in Detroit.
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Why is the wifi simple active?
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m4r10 said:
My S3 is lying to me???
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Practicly yes on stock 4g shows when you connected to umts(3g), hspa and hspa+(t mobile calls this 4g cause it could go up to 42mbps) but if you changed yours to stock look ( aosp) you will see your phone going at all of them and won't stay connected to one at all times, you might no notice because their 3g is not crazy slow where you live, I have good coverage specially where I live and work so I don't mind it
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hpric said:
Why is the wifi simple active?
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If you see to the left it shows a town meaning is from a tower no wifi, wifi will shows different
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tooxcha continuing
Honestly I dont know which one to believe. Ive read the frequency issue and one that said the T-mobile version got the 8290 chip that doesnt support LTE. I guess we will have to see when they actually launch it.

Projectsk26 said:
Honestly I dont know which one to believe. Ive read the frequency issue and one that said the T-mobile version got the 8290 chip that doesnt support LTE. I guess we will have to see when they actually launch it.
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It does have LTE, just like the T-989 did, its just disabled by default. You can access this setting by opening the dialer and typing *#*#4636#*#*, and selecting radio type.

I need to get a new phone every year it just gets boring ... as soon as a good quad core comes out I'm outta here.
Can't stop consuming need moar
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jgalan14 said:
Practicly yes on stock 4g shows when you connected to umts(3g), hspa and hspa+(t mobile calls this 4g cause it could go up to 42mbps) but if you changed yours to stock look ( aosp) you will see your phone going at all of them and won't stay connected to one at all times, you might no notice because their 3g is not crazy slow where you live, I have good coverage specially where I live and work so I don't mind it
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Ive rooted and mine shows H+ but the most i get is 5500kbps download and I live in the Los Angeles area, no idea how you guys are getting those insane speeds

Zephyron said:
Ive rooted and mine shows H+ but the most i get is 5500kbps download and I live in the Los Angeles area, no idea how you guys are getting those insane speeds
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It just depends on where you are and how many people are connected to the netowk like LA is too pack, too many people lives there my speeds are slower there too
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Galaxy Note 2 N7100 on T-Mobile's HSPA+ Refarm Speeds Inside!

Well, after getting tired of AT&T Data Throttling me to Edge speeds, And knowing that coverage is not 100% in my area, I went ahead and got the 69.99 Monthly Unlimited Everything Plan from T-Mobile ( I Was on ATT's Grandfathered in Unlimited plan etc cost around $120-130 Month) Now I'ts just $69.99.
Here are the results Keep in mind speeds will improve as coverage does as well. It's very sensitive at the moment if I move a few feet away signals lower and speeds vary depending on where I'm standing And in Certain parts of my house I have Edge, But if I move towards the bedrooms or living room it just picks up HSPA+ (Yeah it's funny how 20-50 feet make a huge difference) but it's very encouraging to say the least I expect when it's fully re farmed to be getting 15-20mbps down!
And without further a due here they are!

Nyxagamemnon said:
Well, after getting tired of AT&T Data Throttling me to Edge speeds, And knowing that coverage is not 100% in my area, I went ahead and got the 69.99 Monthly Unlimited Everything Plan from T-Mobile ( I Was on ATT's Grandfathered in Unlimited plan etc cost around $120-130 Month) Now I'ts just $69.99.
Here are the results Keep in mind speeds will improve as coverage does as well. It's very sensitive at the moment if I move a few feet away signals lower and speeds vary depending on where I'm standing And in Certain parts of my house I have Edge, But if I move towards the bedrooms or living room it just picks up HSPA+ (Yeah it's funny how 20-50 feet make a huge difference) but it's very encouraging to say the least I expect when it's fully re farmed to be getting 15-20mbps down!
And without further a due here they are!
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You won't get 20mbps down. It's too close to the Note II's theoretical peak 21mbps HSPA+. 15mbps may be possible though.
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Well I'm just touching 12mbps now, I'll keep testing this as time goes on and network improves and see where I end up. However like AT&T is worthless now I was getting 3-4 and now I'm getting constant 9-12mbps at half the price And no throttling.

http://www.airportal.de/
Not sure if you have/want to post your findings there! Every time I check the site, it seems like a new pointer pops up to a new location!

That sounds good. I live in NYC and I am thinking about pulling the trigger on the international version. But I am not sure that I could live with 2G service most of the time. If it were a little bit of H+ and then 3G the rest of the time, I think I could live with it.
In any case, i'm gonna wait and see what price I can get the T-mobile version for.

wait... I thought N7100 does not support the AWS band for voice?
Can someone please confirm if the N7100 supports AWS?
Thx

bdpq said:
wait... I thought N7100 does not support the AWS band for voice?
Can someone please confirm if the N7100 supports AWS?
Thx
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The Int'l Note 2 does not support 1700mhz AWS, correct. T-Mobile is, however, in the process of moving their HSPA+ service off of 1700mhz AWS over to 1900mhz instead so that they can use the (soon to be) old 1700mhz AWS band for LTE service.

Heres mine
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Nice Virus,
I went ahead today and bought a T-Mobile branded version to see the difference in speeds, and At home My n7100 on the 1900 band beat it. I drove around and the highest I got was 15. However that same area is not yet re-farmed. So I'm returning the t-Mobile branded version and keeping my N7100 I Just had to compare both devices

Nyxagamemnon said:
Nice Virus,
I went ahead today and bought a T-Mobile branded version to see the difference in speeds, and At home My n7100 on the 1900 band beat it. I drove around and the highest I got was 15. However that same area is not yet re-farmed. So I'm returning the t-Mobile branded version and keeping my N7100 I Just had to compare both devices
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Yes moving 4G to the 1900 band was a good idea. Now a lot international phone will get 4G insead of 2G. I made the switch coming from AT&T cause now I dont need to. Had the Quad one x so I don't miss lte plus. Well have lte soon anyway. I always buy the latest and gratest phones but I think im a one phone man now. Thanks Samsung.
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Here are some more updated numbers I saw it pass 13! Im rooting for 15
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T-Mobile....meh..
I was a long time customer of T-mobile, had the HTC Amaze 4G and Galaxy S2 on T-Mobile.
Saw speeds up to 15-17mbps in some very few parts, but the thing was.... it loaded pages and generally felt slower browsing and using the web than my friend's equivalent S2 on ATT and he only saw 3-5mbps in probably 90 percent of the locations we went to. Something was up with that...
When T-mobile is fast...it's very fast (which is very rare), but when it's slow, it's VEEEEERRRRY SLOW which was most all places.
Anyways, I'm very happy with my international GT-N7100 on ATT's HSPA.

18.9 highest
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ionic7 said:
18.9 highest
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I wins hehe
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Mister_Mxyzptlk said:
You won't get 20mbps down. It's too close to the Note II's theoretical peak 21mbps HSPA+. 15mbps may be possible though.
Looks like your wrong see above^
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19.8 mbps down, 1.68 mbps down.

Here is the test from the intl note. I had to switch my network mode to wcdma only. Otherwise it kept switching to edge.
Irvine, CA
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I get 20 with my note 2 in some places
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I hit 13 recorded so far ive grazed 14 down while the test was running.
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I get 20 with my note 2 in some places
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At&t Galaxy S 3 on T Mobil HSPA+?

I have been giving a phone that I plan to repair and then unlock to use on my Tmobil network. Will the ATnT S 3 workl with T Mobil HSPA+?
I tried googling the answer but got mixed answers.

I think it will.
But a t mobile s3 on att will get slow speeds. I know this because I recently unlocked my tmo s3 and used an att sim and my download speeds were less then 4mb
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F9zSlavik said:
I have been giving a phone that I plan to repair and then unlock to use on my Tmobil network. Will the ATnT S 3 workl with T Mobil HSPA+?
I tried googling the answer but got mixed answers.
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only where t-mobile has 1900mhz setup...otherwise you will get edge speeds...

Most likely edge speed, don't gamble on the h+ speed... some people get it. But it's very spotty and in a limited area. Maybe next year it'll be better.
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I live in a h+ zone and its still very spotty. Used my gf hox and it didn't have to travel long to be stuck on edge. It also has a habit of going in and out of edge when you are in a zone. Forcing it do wcdma only is not a practical solution because instead of going to edge I just wont have service. So don't do unless you don't mind edge or are paying the $5 plan with overage
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You guys think I should sell he S3 after I fix it? I currently have the HTC Amaze, while a fantastic phone, it has a very small dev community because HTC was a bit of a jerk when it came to helping the community out.
I live in San Diego, I imagine coverage would suck outside of San Diego or even some if not most places in San Diego.
I was sorta hoping to swap my Amaze for the S3.

http://www.engadget.com/2012/12/13/t-mobile-enhances-coverage/
Saw this today, I'm in San Diego yay I'm assuming this is the 1900mhz spectrum

F9zSlavik said:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/12/13/t-mobile-enhances-coverage/
Saw this today, I'm in San Diego yay I'm assuming this is the 1900mhz spectrum
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Yes it is! They turned on the switch
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T-Mobile fliped the switch to 1900mhz h+ in 5 w

Excuse me while I do my happy dance for a second (queue Flashdance dance sequence). Great news for those who love T-Mobile’s low monthly rates, but wish unlocked phones from AT&T or other parts of the world worked on their network. Tonight, T-Mobile has officially flipped the 4G switch on for their 1900MHz network in 5 new markets around the US — my home area of southern California being one of them. Here’s the other 4 markets lit up as well:
Chicago, including the surrounding areas of: Aurora, Berwyn, Chicago Heights, Cicero, Des Plaines, Downers Grove, Evanston, Evergreen Park, Naperville, Oak Park, Schaumburg, Wilmette and Winnetka.
Reno, Nev.
Sacramento, Calif., including the surrounding areas of: Antelope, Citrus Heights, Elk Grove, Fair Oaks, Folsom, Loomis, North Highlands, Rancho Cordova, Rio Linda, Rocklin, Roseville, Vacaville and West Sacramento.
Fresno, Calif.
Southern Calif., including: Alhambra, Anaheim, Claremont, Culver City, El Monte, Encino, Garden Grove, Granada Hills, Inglewood, Irvine, La Crescenta, Laguna Niguel, Monrovia, Monterey Park, Newport Beach, North Hills, North Hollywood, Paramount, Pasadena, Redlands, Reseda, Rosemead, Santa Ana, San Fernando, San Gabriel, Santa Monica, South El Monte, Temple City, Torrance, Upland, Valley Village, Van Nuys, Westminster and Wilmington.
What does this mean to you? Well, where normally AT&T and unlocked devices from other parts of the world would only get 2G speeds on T-Mobile, suddenly find themselves capable of 4G speeds. Found a good deal on an unlocked quad-core Samsung Galaxy S3? Activate it on T-Mobile. Have an HTC One X+ but hate paying up the wazoo for AT&T service? Activate it on T-Mobile.
And for those keeping count, T-Mobile now covers 100 million people in the US with their enhanced 4G HSPA+ network, making the #4 largest carrier in the US a viable option for those feeling like they’re paying too much on AT&T. As for me, I’ll be picking up Verizon’s HTC Droid DNA and loading it up with my T-Mobile SIM for super quick HSPA+ data speeds at half the monthly rate. Woot!
Source: http://phandroid.com/2012/12/13/t-m...arkets-southern-california-being-one-of-them/
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1900 MHz lit up or not, T-Mobile still can't push a decent signal into large buildings. I was at the LA Convention Center the other day...pretty much a dead-zone for my Note II once I got inside any exhibit halls, but my Verizon S3 was pulling LTE the whole time. Not sure how AT&T would have done in there, I didn't bring my AT&T phone with me.
Granted, Santa Clarita isn't on the published list of 1900 MHz cities yet, but in my office in a factory building up there, it's the same thing, T-Mo dead-zone, AT&T dead-zone if more than few feet from my window, but VZW pushes a good data signal all the way into the elevators in the center of the building. Pretty frustrating.
I've got a little less than a week to return my Note II to T-Mobile and cancel my plan. Probably won't, but very tempted to just upgrade one of my VZW phones to their Note II and be done with T-Mo's weak signals. Although it's much better than it was a few years ago when I had a T-Mo Nexus One, I now get a good HSPAP:15 signal in my house, which was a dead-zone two years ago.

So has anyone tested to see what kind of speeds theyre gettin? Im very curious. Because I know my hspa beats att data speeds almost all the time. With these new bands well smoke em dead
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distortedloop said:
1900 MHz lit up or not, T-Mobile still can't push a decent signal into large buildings. I was at the LA Convention Center the other day...pretty much a dead-zone for my Note II once I got inside any exhibit halls, but my Verizon S3 was pulling LTE the whole time. Not sure how AT&T would have done in there, I didn't bring my AT&T phone with me.
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In building penetration is largely a factor of the frequency that you are on. the lower the frequency the better the penetration. So carriers using 850 will get a way better signal than ones using 1900.
Of course smart carriers like their customers to be on their networks burning up those minutes/megs and so put micro or pico cells in big buildings that have poor coverage....
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does this mean iphone user on T-Mobile will get 3G speeds?

HKSpeed said:
does this mean iphone user on T-Mobile will get 3G speeds?
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Oh, yes! That's actually the reason why Tmobile made this move, to get iphone
users to switch.
dabajan said:
In building penetration is largely a factor of the frequency that you are on. the lower the frequency the better the penetration. So carriers using 850 will get a way better signal than ones using 1900.
Of course smart carriers like their customers to be on their networks burning up those minutes/megs and so put micro or pico cells in big buildings that have poor coverage....
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I guess Tmobile isn't smart around here. The lack of 850 for data on Tmobile is a serious handicap for them competitively.
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Yes HK the iphone currently works on T-Mobiles 3G/4G in certain areas mainly California and some surrounding states like Nevada
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Any word on when iys gonna be avaliable in NY?
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Yes, im gettin 26 to 30+ megabits
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Yes, im gettin 26 to 30+ megabits
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??? I was getting 20+ megs in the eastbay. No more then that
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jpeps3 said:
??? I was getting 20+ megs in the eastbay. No more then that
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Are on wcdm to get it
Or gsm
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Dang I would love those speeds
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??? I was getting 20+ megs in the eastbay. No more then that
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Are on wcdm to get it
Or gsm
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Im set on default
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http://www.airportal.de/#
Here is a map that shows the places the refarmed frequencies have went into effect, and it's updated daily.

Does this mean that the places where I only had edge speeds before, I will now have hspa+ on my note 2?
Assuming the area has been updated.
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busab said:
Does this mean that the places where I only had edge speeds before, I will now have hspa+ on my note 2?
Assuming the area has been updated.
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Not HSPA+. 3g.

I cannot get that page to load for some reason
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distortedloop said:
1900 MHz lit up or not, T-Mobile still can't push a decent signal into large buildings. I was at the LA Convention Center the other day...pretty much a dead-zone for my Note II once I got inside any exhibit halls, but my Verizon S3 was pulling LTE the whole time. Not sure how AT&T would have done in there, I didn't bring my AT&T phone with me.
Granted, Santa Clarita isn't on the published list of 1900 MHz cities yet, but in my office in a factory building up there, it's the same thing, T-Mo dead-zone, AT&T dead-zone if more than few feet from my window, but VZW pushes a good data signal all the way into the elevators in the center of the building. Pretty frustrating.
I've got a little less than a week to return my Note II to T-Mobile and cancel my plan. Probably won't, but very tempted to just upgrade one of my VZW phones to their Note II and be done with T-Mo's weak signals. Although it's much better than it was a few years ago when I had a T-Mo Nexus One, I now get a good HSPAP:15 signal in my house, which was a dead-zone two years ago.
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Here in Vegas, no matter what building I go into its a dead zone...
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Yeah I haven't got over 20mb here in Vegas its disappointing
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Yeah I haven't got over 20mb here in Vegas its disappointing
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Same for me in the suburbs of Los Angeles.
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I am actually in Schaumburg IL, I have to say data runs somewhat faster!
I live with my brother for a few weeks, and his living room is a complete dead spot for T-Mobile. I ran speedtest before and it would not even get through 1000kb download sometimes. I had done some tests already, and I am hitting over +5000 download and +1500 upload constantly
I see improvement... might not have much to do with 1900mhz lol... but a few of my friends reported spotty 3G in the suburb. Downtown is getting a good 3000 download at least

Why does my tmobile data and connection speed suck so bad?

I live in Hesperia, CA. Tmobile 4g network blows here. I just did a speed test and the testing app showed I had a 3g connection while the status bar icon showed it as 4g(screenie added) what's up with that is tmo lying to me? Saying I'm connected to 4g when I'm actually not... I never get above 200kbps during the day, at night I can get 1500kbps but that sucks too. I'm getting so frustrated I switched from metro and their network was better. I got 2500kbps from them.
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Wanted to add a speedtest screenie also.
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Flash a different modem bro.
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I guess you can go to the extreme of saying tmobile is lying to you, but in reality no they're not. "4g" just shows when data activity is happening. You are barely over edge speeds though. I would say try different radios and such and look at the map from this post and play around to see which will help you specifically. In the mean time put your phone to edge only so you stop wasting battery lol. [Baseband] ALL T999(V) Modems! w/ MAP and Data Tweaks!

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I guess you can go to the extreme of saying tmobile is lying to you
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They are misleading intentionally.

Start a big download and go to the dialer, input *#0011#. Take note of the band you are on (2 or 4) and which items have a 1 on them out of HSPA and HSDPA. If you are on band 2 and see a one next to either of those options, you can try forcing 1700 by using *#2263# and choosing it under WCDMA. This will cause you to lose service if you have poor 1700 coverage, particularly for voice calls but you can always set it back by going back to the main 2263 menu and hitting automatic.
If those don't work or you see zeroes have you gone into phone status to see if you have an IMEI? Because that will lock you to UMTS. Shortcut to find out - *#06#
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Start a big download and go to the dialer, input *#0011#. Take note of the band you are on (2 or 4) and which items have a 1 on them out of HSPA and HSDPA. If you are on band 2 and see a one next to either of those options, you can try forcing 1700 by using *#2263# and choosing it under WCDMA. This will cause you to lose service if you have poor 1700 coverage, particularly for voice calls but you can always set it back by going back to the main 2263 menu and hitting automatic.
If those don't work or you see zeroes have you gone into phone status to see if you have an IMEI? Because that will lock you to UMTS. Shortcut to find out - *#06#
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I've tried this using *#0011# and I get an error. I put *#06# and it showed my IMEI yet I was unable to still use those two codes.
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jordeeeezy said:
I've tried this using *#0011# and I get an error. I put *#06# and it showed my IMEI yet I was unable to still use those two codes.
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I was assuming that you were on a TouchWiz ROM (these codes only work on the Samsung dialer) based on the fact that you had a 4G icon up there - if you're not on stock, there's not an easy way to troubleshoot. If you are on stock, you have to use the built in dialer, not a third party app.
Its worth the time to go to a TW ROM to try to troubleshoot it but if your IMEI came up fine then its less worth the hassle. Wish I could help you out more but it looks like you might be in a highly congested area on the network :/

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I was assuming that you were on a TouchWiz ROM (these codes only work on the Samsung dialer) based on the fact that you had a 4G icon up there - if you're not on stock, there's not an easy way to troubleshoot. If you are on stock, you have to use the built in dialer, not a third party app.
Its worth the time to go to a TW ROM to try to troubleshoot it but if your IMEI came up fine then its less worth the hassle. Wish I could help you out more but it looks like you might be in a highly congested area on the network :/
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my apologies. i was on liquidsmooth with uvmd5 and didnt understand why my download speeds were so slow so i wanted to check what this was all about. im currently switching between uvlja and uvli8 to see which modem works best in my area.

I was on uvlja when I started having the issues so I upgraded to uvmd5 and I am still having the problems. I'm not so sure anymore that the modems are the problem. I'm running DarthstalkerX2 I've been using these roms for quite a while but I've only been experiencing these issues for a couple of months.
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This is weird....
Evertime I try to post in the general thread, it shows up here!
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Figured it out...

I'm in the Fresno, CA area, and I've been running the UVDM5 modem for a few days. I noticed it has much slower upload speeds, while downloads are a little bit lower compared to the UVLJA

Ok everyone tmobile finally admitted to me that I am in a HORRIBLY BAD congested area of their network. No ETA on a fix either. I was given the option to return the phone cancel service and move on at no extra charge. I have until the 27th to make my decision. What should I do. Stay or go?
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racinmason001 said:
Ok everyone tmobile finally admitted to me that I am in a HORRIBLY BAD congested area of their network. No ETA on a fix either. I was given the option to return the phone cancel service and move on at no extra charge. I have until the 27th to make my decision. What should I do. Stay or go?
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If they are admitting it then it must be *REALLY* bad... If data speeds are more important than pricing to you, I say jump ship.

racinmason001 said:
Ok everyone tmobile finally admitted to me that I am in a HORRIBLY BAD congested area of their network. No ETA on a fix either. I was given the option to return the phone cancel service and move on at no extra charge. I have until the 27th to make my decision. What should I do. Stay or go?
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Wow! that is a rare thing indeed! Good luck on whatever you decide!
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racinmason001 said:
I live in Hesperia, CA. Tmobile 4g network blows here. I just did a speed test and the testing app showed I had a 3g connection while the status bar icon showed it as 4g(screenie added) what's up with that is tmo lying to me? Saying I'm connected to 4g when I'm actually not... I never get above 200kbps during the day, at night I can get 1500kbps but that sucks too. I'm getting so frustrated I switched from metro and their network was better. I got 2500kbps from them.
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T-Mo is not lying. You're still on their 4G network, but as someone mentioned, it's probably congested. Additionally, for most areas, T-Mo's 3G and 4G network is the exact same technology. If you're paying for the 4G service, they take the "speed limiter" off. Simple as that. Most likely a bad area of Cali for T-Mobile.
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Don_Perrignon said:
T-Mo is not lying. You're still on their 4G network, but as someone mentioned, it's probably congested. Additionally, for most areas, T-Mo's 3G and 4G network is the exact same technology. If you're paying for the 4G service, they take the "speed limiter" off. Simple as that. Most likely a bad area of Cali for T-Mobile.
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I'd like to see your sources for this because 3G UMTS, 3.5G HSDPA/HSUPA/HSPA+, and true 4G LTE are all different technologies. UMTS maxes out at 384Kbps, HSDPA ranges from 7 to 21Mbps, HSPA+ is up to 21Mbps but includes HSUPA for up to 5.76Mbps upload, and DC-HSPA+ is up to 42Mbps on the downlink with the same 5.76Mbps upload of standard HSPA+. 4G LTE can exceed 100Mbps.
While its true that they all operate off of wideband CDMA technology, they are NOT the same and require tower upgrades... T-Mobile does not discriminate based on your data plan. They discriminate based on your data usage compared to the plan you purchased and throttle you when you exceed what you paid for. Plain and simple.
Get your facts straight before you spout off nonsense.
EDIT: I am not aware if T-Mobile has deployed pico cells for UMTS anywhere but if they have, UMTS can go up to 2Mbps on a pico cell.

EtherealRemnant said:
I'd like to see your sources for this because 3G UMTS, 3.5G HSDPA/HSUPA/HSPA+, and true 4G LTE are all different technologies. UMTS maxes out at 384Kbps, HSDPA ranges from 7 to 21Mbps, HSPA+ is up to 21Mbps but includes HSUPA for up to 5.76Mbps upload, and DC-HSPA+ is up to 42Mbps on the downlink with the same 5.76Mbps upload of standard HSPA+. 4G LTE can exceed 100Mbps.
While its true that they all operate off of wideband CDMA technology, they are NOT the same and require tower upgrades... T-Mobile does not discriminate based on your data plan. They discriminate based on your data usage compared to the plan you purchased and throttle you when you exceed what you paid for. Plain and simple.
Get your facts straight before you spout off nonsense.
EDIT: I am not aware if T-Mobile has deployed pico cells for UMTS anywhere but if they have, UMTS can go up to 2Mbps on a pico cell.
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And, you're getting mad... for what? You need to chill. I have no idea why people get such superior attitudes when they correct someone.
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Don_Perrignon said:
And, you're getting mad... for what? You need to chill. I have no idea why people get such superior attitudes when they correct someone.
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Who said I was getting mad? You would know if I was. I'm just blunt.

EtherealRemnant said:
Who said I was getting mad? You would know if I was. I'm just blunt.
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And, honest about your misplaced superiority complex.
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