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why no 4g with gingerbread

Why is 4g and hdmi such a Hugh problem with gingerbread roms? Gingerbread is just a dot release mainly bug fixes and all. so then why no wimax?

dzuchowski said:
Why is 4g and hdmi such a Hugh problem with gingerbread roms? Gingerbread is just a dot release mainly bug fixes and all. so then why no wimax?
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What does Hugh have to do with this?

:........5 topics down from this one....
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sdc177 said:
What does Hugh have to do with this?
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It's all his fault, duh. He apparently didn't know which part of the rom to put the 4 gees in.

really??????
There is a gingerbread rom with 4g. Or wimax... try looking on the front page......also the reason why 4g and HDMI are difficult is because they are tied into sense.

Hi OP. Where can I download the project you are developing?

sirmx said:
Hi OP. Where can I download the project you are developing?
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Lol, says it all

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so all gingerbread phones are HTC phones?

dzuchowski said:
Why is 4g and hdmi such a Hugh problem with gingerbread roms? Gingerbread is just a dot release mainly bug fixes and all. so then why no wimax?
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sirmx said:
Hi OP. Where can I download the project you are developing?
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lol, that was funny
ycats said:
so all gingerbread phones are HTC phones?
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dzuchowski said:
Why is 4g and hdmi such a Hugh problem with gingerbread roms? Gingerbread is just a dot release mainly bug fixes and all. so then why no wimax?
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sdc177 said:
What does Hugh have to do with this?
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xHausx said:
It's all his fault, duh. He apparently didn't know which part of the rom to put the 4 gees in.
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Because of Hugh's obvious error with 4G/HDMI in Gingerbread, he has been fired. Development will now be handled by HTC. They promise a Gingerbread ROM with 4G and HDMI in… 8 months. 10/5/2011: mark your calendars.

dzuchowski said:
Why is 4g and hdmi such a Hugh problem with gingerbread roms? Gingerbread is just a dot release mainly bug fixes and all. so then why no wimax?
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Look a couple of threads down and see the CM7 W/ WiMax thread. Its based off of CM7 Nightly build 24.

sirmx said:
Hi OP. Where can I download the project you are developing?
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That is the funniest **** I have read in a long time...sigged

Lmao I couldn't stop laughing for a while, I knew he would get flame, anyways back to the topic Idk how much knowledge you have about development roms in general and what stage the Evo is in the moment, to start the Evo is in froyo version 2.2 (there is a version 2.2.1 and 2.2.2) and it was released by sprint/HTC which they make the codes for the front facing camera (back then it was the first Android device with it that I know) , 4G and HDMI so they practically used they own source not android (but it did involved android) now cm7(gingerbread 2.3.2) is based on AOSP (android open source project) and the developer/s cynogen get all their source from Google android open source which back then(eclair 2.1/froyo 2.2) they didn't have a way to make the ffc camera and wimax (now they have ffc camera but not wimax or HDMI) , what really good developers are doing is writing a code for wimax almost 8 months later (is really hard to make it from scratch is not just a copy and paste job, they been working on it for months ) to work on an aosp rom which is great, the ones on sense (wimax/4G) don't work cause is tied to sense framework, so until HTC realease a official update the Evo will be considerer gingerbread (2.3.1/2.3.2) and HDMI and4G will work if they ever update it BTW this thing ain't easy to do and that's one thing the android fragmentation with all carriers and phone makers have a problem with and that's where cynogen mod come to the rescue ha ha, cm/sense user BTW
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hahahhahahahh
you fail
back to business: there is none, because gingerbread roms are roms from either the sdk or nexus s that have been ported. the devs had to re-write all the kernel codes and radio codes and everything. that is FREAKING HARD TO DO!
recently, toastchf and shinzul actually wrote a wimax code to work on gingerbread. THEY FREAKING REVERSE ENGINEERED WHAT PROBABLY TOOK HTC/SPRINT MONTHS. DO YOU KNOW HOW HARD THAT IS?
where is your development? i see none. i just see you asking for something that took months of hard work that is actually like 3 threads below yours.
edit: just realized i'm in the q&a section. srry... regret...

dkdude36 said:
hahahhahahahh
you fail
back to business: there is none, because gingerbread roms are roms from either the sdk or nexus s that have been ported. the devs had to re-write all the kernel codes and radio codes and everything. that is FREAKING HARD TO DO!
recently, toastchf and shinzul actually wrote a wimax code to work on gingerbread. THEY FREAKING REVERSE ENGINEERED WHAT PROBABLY TOOK HTC/SPRINT MONTHS. DO YOU KNOW HOW HARD THAT IS?
where is your development? i see none. i just see you asking for something that took months of hard work that is actually like 3 threads below yours.
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Thank you i was about to say the same thing

Holy ****...I haven't laughed that hard in a while. Thanks...I needed that. Seriously laughed until I cried.
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nol3n said:
Holy ****...I haven't laughed that hard in a while. Thanks...I needed that. Seriously laughed until I cried.
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+1 on that... I honestly see more people asking real (hate to say it) stupid questions in here more than anything else. Nobody takes the time out to look for sh&t and then get mad when they are told to do some research. Thats why we have pages and pages of people destroying their phones. Keep up the good work guys of smacking people like this around it keeps me coming back and laughing....
P.S.A - People do some lurking before you ask dumb questions and do some searching as well. Don't root flash or do anything related to that until you do your damn homework.... Deuces!

[Q] is the leaked 2.3.3 or just a cover up of 2.2

went to a sprint store and the sprint representive said the EE03 for the epic 4g was a fake and was not the real gingerbread but a covered up version of 2.2 froyo is this really true????

Lol are you serious? The guys messing with you

xDDDDD. Wait you were serious? Sorry.
He's messing with you man. EE03 is a leaked version of 2.3.3, it most certainly NOT 2.2!

No. Otherwise Netflix wouldn't work on it. It is NOT an official release but a beta version. There will be later versions before it is released.

i can't speak for others, but IMHO the devs in this community know more than 99% of "Sprint store" employees about what is going on with the epic and with gingerbread.
Have you tried running the leaked EE03 rom? it has some functionality to it that is definitely an improvement over stock EC05 froyo, but also definitely a little way to go before a fully functional gingerbread release.
on a different note -- anyone hear about the progress of EE19?
i can haz moar ginjurbreds nao?

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jarcher1971 said:
i can't speak for others, but IMHO the devs in this community know more than 99% of "Sprint store" employees about what is going on with the epic and with gingerbread.
Have you tried running the leaked EE03 rom? it has some functionality to it that is definitely an improvement over stock EC05 froyo, but also definitely a little way to go before a fully functional gingerbread release.
on a different note -- anyone hear about the progress of EE19?
i can haz moar ginjurbreds nao?
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yes i am running it. and i was running it when i went to the sprint store and showed them that, and even said i had netflix and they still said it was a tweeked version of froyo and they say that the nexus s is the better phone. LOL really its the same except for the NFC radio

catman9712 said:
yes i am running it. and i was running it when i went to the sprint store and showed them that, and even said i had netflix and they still said it was a tweeked version of froyo and they say that the nexus s is the better phone. LOL really its the same except for the NFC radio
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sounds like they just wanted to try to sell you a new phone. nexus s may have some things that are better than the epic (like being a purely google device), but with these gingerleaks here and the real gingerbread on the way the epic is still the best phone for me.

jarcher1971 said:
sounds like they just wanted to try to sell you a new phone. nexus s may have some things that are better than the epic (like being a purely google device), but with these gingerleaks here and the real gingerbread on the way the epic is still the best phone for me.
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I Totally have to agree the epic 4g is clearly a better phone if you screw up with it or something i have always been able to reset it and sprint techs not even having a clue i did that.

So, I work for sprint and I can tell you that xda has more info than we do. They don't really tell us much at all, xda would have info up for weeks before they officially tell us anything. Kind of funny
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I am so stealing that.

catman9712 said:
yes i am running it. and i was running it when i went to the sprint store and showed them that, and even said i had netflix and they still said it was a tweeked version of froyo and they say that the nexus s is the better phone. LOL really its the same except for the NFC radio
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Cell store employees are i my personnel experience are dumb ass mofos. like car salesmen.
I Verizon tech fried my phone once, I was out of state & the ****ing pricks would not upgrade my phone on the spot after that. I was so pissed a cop came & then the cop sided with me and told them ther where full of **** & left after i told him i would not kick there asss all over the store

Go back in there and tell him how stupid he is.
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Oh I did tell them how stupid they was
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catman9712 said:
Oh I did tell them how stupid they was
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were. how stupid they were.

.. shakes magic 8-ball...
My sources say NO

austin420 said:
are. how stupid they are.
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FTFY
I don't think anything magically made them smarter overnight...

he has no clue its the same issue my verzon friends with the fascinate were having they were told the update they had was froyo (2.2) when verizon only had a cover up of eclair at the time (2.1.2)
the LEAKED gingerbread is not within their knoledge because it is leaked, thus we know more than they do... because they only know OFFICIAL RELEASES

JettMartinez said:
I am so stealing that.
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me too, love it.

how do i get ice cream

hello how do i download ice cream, will i get it from the marketplace?

If it supports your phone, it will be an over the air update when its released sometime next month.
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You can buy at a stand
But Desire won't get any updates, only custom ROM (hopefully).

You probably own an HTC Desire since you posted this question here... then you'll have to wait just like the rest of us for our awesome developers to port the ROM over.
We are not gonna get any over the air update since HTC ended their support for our device already.

lovemeplease said:
hello how do i download ice cream, will i get it from the marketplace?
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Weill if you find ice-cream on Android market, send me link. I want one with apple flavor.

stankyou said:
We are not gonna get any over the air update since HTC ended their support for our device already.
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At only a year old? That's atrocious.

JellyXDA said:
At only a year old? That's atrocious.
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It's about 2 years old
In addition htc devices get old soon because of the htc sense.. It's always hard for htc port sense ui over a new os like ics
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JellyXDA said:
At only a year old? That's atrocious.
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Well, 20 Months old.
Where does it say they are obliged to update your phone's software forever? If you think about it, not many non-android phones have support for software above and beyond this.

JellyXDA said:
At only a year old? That's atrocious.
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Well it released Feb last year, but I agree that HTC really messed up with the Gingerbread update, Desire owners deserved that one done properly.
As for ICS, can't really expect HTC to support the Desire that far... it'd be the third major update.

6chrisp said:
Desire owners deserved that one done properly.
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Care to explain how it wasn't done properly?

6chrisp said:
Desire owners deserved that one done properly.
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What drugs you're smoking?

erklat said:
Care to explain how it wasn't done properly?
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Because it wasn't released as a normal, OTA update. Instead, HTC released a very late, buggy version via their website, and so your average desire owner probably doesn't even know a GB update exists.

That's because with OTA they couldn't delete content from system. And it ain't more buggy than FroYo, in fact it's less buggy than FroYo.

Terepin said:
That's because with OTA they couldn't delete content from system. And it ain't more buggy than FroYo, in fact it's less buggy than FroYo.
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Sure, it's less buggy than froyo, but you would expect that, really. Some of the bugs that I really thought would be addressed were still present.
And you can't deny that when a manufacturer releases an update that has warnings and disclaimers on it, it hasn't been done quite as smoothly as Samsung/Apple.

Because of memory constraints (duh!).

No chance of ics on HTC desire unless ported thru custom Rom

If HTC will remove gapps, then it will be easily possible, even if with old Sense.

Rooted and get an custom ROM will give you ice cream earlier. Forget HTC.

Doubt very much if we will see ICS on Desire...
ICS is optimised for dual-core and also features virtual keys. There is already speculation on the Sensation boards whether they will see the update, due that device using soft keys.
I imagine HTC will tweak ICS to run on Sensation, but can't see them adapting to Desire. Too many deficiencies to be addressed.
Hoping our awesome devs will be able to at least port various bits and pieces from Android 4.0 for us to enjoy, though!!

777ace said:
Doubt very much if we will see ICS on Desire...
ICS is optimised for dual-core and also features virtual keys. There is already speculation on the Sensation boards whether they will see the update, due that device using soft keys.
I imagine HTC will tweak ICS to run on Sensation, but can't see them adapting to Desire. Too many deficiencies to be addressed.
Hoping our awesome devs will be able to at least port various bits and pieces from Android 4.0 for us to enjoy, though!!
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Well we will probably, just that we won't see it from HTC as they dropped support for Desire.
Because ICS will essentially work with any phones that can run Gingerbread (not just dual-core). And apparently ICS checks if your device have hardware keys or not, if there is, they will not display the virtual keys. And i can't really see Google being so stupid to only restrict ICS to phones without hardware keys as there are essentially no other phones besides the galaxy nexus that do not have hardware keys.
Also, we already have a port of ICS SDK, here. Its not usable or perfect, but at least it proves that the Desire can run ICS.

4g on AOSP rant...

what do people find so hard to understand that in order for 4g to work on aosp (ie. MIUI, Cyanogen), we need the proprietary wimax drivers from samsung???
the only other option is to have somebody code the drivers from scratch.
this has been asked and answered dozens of times in these threads, why are people so thick that they can't accept the answer???
you want it? learn to code and build it!
rant over... that feels better

Wizard Knight said:
what do people find so hard to understand that in order for 4g to work on aosp (ie. MIUI, Cyanogen), we need the proprietary wimax drivers from samsung???
the only other option is to have somebody code the drivers from scratch.
this has been asked and answered dozens of times in these threads, why are people so thick that they can't accept the answer???
you want it? learn to code and build it!
rant over... that feels better
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hahahahaha seeing the same thing over and over again being asked really drives you crazy huh? I know the feeling....lol
Good rant though

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... Lol jk i understand your fustration

I agree. I cringe everytime someone asks.
MIUI Powered GSII

What's 4G?
Due to recent events of not recognizing my humor, I hereby post this disclaimer: It's humor-not meant to offend anyone. That is all.

I understand you can't always read back. when I'm using the app on the phone, it's a pain in the ass and search isn't worth crap. but I get insane when I'm trying to look for updates on something from work real fast and I have to go through:
-X isn't working, is there a fix?
-it's known, it's in the op, be fixed tomorrow
2 posts later
-X isn't working, is there a fix?
-it's known, it's in the op, be fixed tomorrow
AAAAHHHHH!!!!! >_<

Wizard Knight said:
I understand you can't always read back. when I'm using the app on the phone, it's a pain in the ass and search isn't worth crap. but I get insane when I'm trying to look for updates on something from work real fast and I have to go through:
-X isn't working, is there a fix?
-it's known, it's in the op, be fixed tomorrow
2 posts later
-X isn't working, is there a fix?
-it's known, it's in the op, be fixed tomorrow
AAAAHHHHH!!!!! >_<
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I feel your pain. But, unless one of these recurring questions goes woefully unanswered I'll just shut up. I used to try diligently to educate everyone as they filed in the new-recruits barracks. I've done that a lot over the years as nerdy hobbies of mine have actually taken root in mainstream society...and I've also noticed the same pattern.
Not that there is anything wrong with that. It's the natural progression of the situation. The thing is we are just at the beginning of the smart-phone era. No, I don't mean the prehistoric smart-phone era, pre iphone. This is the beginning of the 'modern' smartphone era. Post-iPhone/Android. The vast majority of people who own cellphones still do not have a smartphone....so...this 'issue' is only going to get worse and worse and worse. Even though we are but a tiny sliver of the smartphone owning population our ranks will continue to swell for years. What was the last number I read, over 800,000+ Android activations *per day*!??? That is a rate that is only increasing. This time last year I think it was hovering around 150k a day and I was blown away....
...interesting times.

So is 4g working on Miui? :sly::what:
Sorry, I couldn't resist
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Yes, either hound the ever living **** out of Samsung on Twitter and Facebook to release the code or do it yourself.

It is true though ...everything anyone would ever want to know has been posted dozens of times. I think people just get frustrated if they get back wrong results in "search"
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So 4G is now available on AOSP! Awesome! I was just going to ask for an ETA, too.

The thing that I dont get, and Im just putting this out there......if you tweak your wimax radio setting on the OG Epic, the Nexus S, or the Epic 4g Touch (##DATA#), they all have the same settings, they are all Samsung phones, and they are all "Galaxy S" devices in one form or another.....so dont they use the same WIMAX radios? If so, the drivers are right there in the Nexus.

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The thing that I dont get, and Im just putting this out there......if you tweak your wimax radio setting on the OG Epic, the Nexus S, or the Epic 4g Touch (##DATA#), they all have the same settings, they are all Samsung phones, and they are all "Galaxy S" devices in one form or another.....so dont they use the same WIMAX radios? If so, the drivers are right there in the Nexus.
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Interesting question. I know that the dialer code is slightly different on NS4G (*#*#data#*#*) but I do have my WiMax settings exactly the same.
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shiftr182 said:
The thing that I dont get, and Im just putting this out there......if you tweak your wimax radio setting on the OG Epic, the Nexus S, or the Epic 4g Touch (##DATA#), they all have the same settings, they are all Samsung phones, and they are all "Galaxy S" devices in one form or another.....so dont they use the same WIMAX radios? If so, the drivers are right there in the Nexus.
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Based on the tear down one of the sites did the E4GT has a different wimax chip made by Toshiba while the NS4G has a Samsung chip. I also saw someone claim that they are actually the same, one was just a rebranding of the other or something like that.
Basically it boils down to someone needing to actually go debug the 4G and see if the already existing CM7 code can work with minor tweaking or if reverse engineering of the drivers is required.

They need to have a auto ban script enabled for when aosp and Wimax/4g are mentioned within 500 characters of each other.
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BrandoKC said:
Yes, either hound the ever living **** out of Samsung on Twitter and Facebook to release the code or do it yourself.
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I think it would be easier to put in the 4G not working like they used to do in EVO and they do in NS4G forums, or they can also say 4G will never work. Saying this because they always include what is not working while publishing all AOSP roms.

tenaciousj said:
They need to have a auto ban script enabled for when aosp and Wimax/4g are mentioned within 500 characters of each other.
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Wouldn't you get banned for this post too then?

ker0zene said:
Wouldn't you get banned for this post too then?
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Good point. I support this idea.

Not sure what specific wimax radio the touch uses, but usually it is the radio manufacturers being closed, not the phone manufacturer. Wimax is mostly proprietary technology. In order to get access to the detailed radio datasheet, which is needed to write the drivers, you usually need to be high volume and sign an nda not to share it. I can almost guarantee Samsung can't release the wimax code because of these nda's.
Curious how they got it working on the evo.
Edit: so the touch uses the Toshiba TC31501AAMBG for wimax. Link of you find a detailed datasheet for it.
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Has the devs given up on the Eptouch?

The rom selection is not very good and the roms themselves are full of issues save for the gb ones.

Wtf are u talking about? We have a few JB roms out. we have as much dev support as any phone on XDA!!!!
Have u tried blu kuban its amazing. The cm9 is almost a daily what the f#@k else do u want for the devs to suck u off too!!!!!!!
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Not sure if we see the same things.. Lately the devs have been cranking away with the epic 4G touch..
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the ics ones suffer the same issues ff18 stock have
but i do have high hopes for the JB one just posted
as far as choice theres not much
the one i was very much liking isnt being worked on atm (he said hes working on jb so I guess thats a good thing lol)

donsh00tmesanta said:
the ics ones suffer the same issues ff18 stock have
but i do have high hopes for the JB one just posted
as far as choice theres not much
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U are confusing. Not sure what planet u are on or what universe. Samsung/sprint put out a ****ty update and u want the devs to fix it? U know most devs don't do this for a living right ? Also we have a huge assortment of roms. We have atleast 7 roms active being updated daily . Plus cm9 and now JB which one is cm10 and posted and one is not cuz of people like u whining that a alpha ROM has bugs
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I am running agats tFE22_v0.1.0
Just an issue of losing wifi when the phone goes to deep sleep, but other than that it's great.
No real development recently though, except people theming roms and calling themselves developers
We should have a few stable builds of jelly bean soon? If you want loads of choices in roms maybe switch to a GSM phone

nsxla said:
I am running agats tFE22_v0.1.0
Just an issue of losing wifi when the phone goes to deep sleep, but other than that it's great.
No real development recently though, except people theming roms and calling themselves developers
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Thats what Im saying
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If you want loads of choices in roms maybe switch to a GSM phone
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Why is that the best response to this lol.......I am just trying to point it out lol
So far the worthwhile roms are touched by gs3, aokp and cm9.....cm10 now lol but that is laggy maybe its my phone who knows
The other two are well on the way to being amazing just need stability responsiveness and MHL ability
Also why isnt the CM9 for our phone official? ATT version is.....

You're blind........ The clear and only choice, Blu Kuban. It blows everything else out of the water. Like somebody else said, get a new phone or you can develop your own rom to your specifications.
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Ttrain721 said:
You're blind........ The clear and only choice, Blu Kuban. It blows everything else out of the water. Like somebody else said, get a new phone or you can develop your own rom to your specifications.
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Oh dear why must that be the response I get? I hate to say this but if you purchase a gnex and give it to me I will take it lol
And as you said the only choice doesnt really give the impression of choice lol
Have the devs moved on to other phones? Are they working on something awesome?

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donsh00tmesanta said:
Oh dear why must that be the response I get? I hate to say this but if you purchase a gnex and give it to me I will take it lol
And as you said the only choice doesnt really give the impression of choice lol
Have the devs moved on to other phones? Are they working on something awesome?
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As I said, if you don't like the choice in roms which there are a lot, develop your own.
Sent from my SPH-D710 using XDA

Check the development section. Plenty of options for you. Hell, there are even builds of JB for this device not even posted on here.
---Jay--- From the CM10'd GNex™

Whys that always another typical response? Why cant it be something like maybe they are working on something else? Why must I get smartallecky remarks?