Battery discussion - Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi
I've got an HTC one x as well.
Just wondering if it's ok to using the HTC charger to charge note2??
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Updated thread to battery discussion hopefully help me and other to maximise our battery usage.

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aliguu said:
Hi
I've got an HTC one x as well.
Just wondering if it's ok to using the HTC charger to charge note2??
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I think you'll fine but it will take longer time to charge as the Note charger has higher amp

Charging slower is fine, just don't want it to stuff up / shorten the battery life.
Just that I've being feeling that my battery seems shorter standby/use time now..
Maybe becoz started using google now?
Also is there any ways to maintain the battery life? Does discharging still work?

aliguu said:
Charging slower is fine, just don't want it to stuff up / shorten the battery life.
Just that I've being feeling that my battery seems shorter standby/use time now..
Maybe becoz started using google now?
Also is there any ways to maintain the battery life? Does discharging still work?
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Hey
To my knowledge its best to charge these new batteries often... it was in the old days that it was best to let the batteries discharge completely, before recharging... I've heard that this might even harm the new generation of batteries...
- Bobo

Yes I came across the same info when I was using my HTC one x --> charge as often.
So same for our SGN2
= charge often, no need to discharge method.
Now can anyone confirming that google now drains power more than expected?
Somehow I was getting more than 1 day of life before but now with same usage my battery can bearly make it to the next morning?

If you want a fast charge, find yourself a Nexus 7 or Kindle Fire HD charger.
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So these chargers will charge faster and not harm our note2 battery?
Any perticular voltage or watts to look for on these chargers?

YUD11 said:
Thank you, the battery life depends on repeatedly charging and discharging frequency, so should try to avoid more charge when the battery power, this will shorten the service life of the battery. Mobile phone off time more than 7 days, should first will phone the battery to completely discharge, enough electricity before use
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No that's just wrong!
Phone off, leave the battery atleat 50% charged.
Do not completely discharge the battery if you can charge before it's 0%
It was true for NIMH batteries, but it's a long time since we had those kinds of battery, and ofcourse NiCd batteries.

yep, what rvenes mention should be the go = no need to discharge (drain battery to 0 and full charge).
simply charge as often as possible, not letting it fall below 50%.

orgalu said:
I personally think that the HTC charger to charge note2 No, this will reduce battery life
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HTC charger should work fine.
You can charge with the computer too, usb, but it takes longer time.

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Can I recharge the battery every day?

There are lots of myths regarding lithium batteries.. some say you are not supposed to overcharge it (charge it only when it's running out)
Some say it doesn't matter since lithium can be recharged as much as you want and it won't deteroriate the battery's life.
Which one? Can I recharge my Touch Pro 2 every night before I go to bed and leave it until morning? or should I do it when it's running out to preserve the battery's life?
You should keep the device on A/C power as much as possible. So, it's fine to charge daily overnight. Every once in a while, you should let the battery run all the way out before recharging. What this will do is keep your battery meter reading accurate. If you don't do this, eventually, your device will "think" it has more juice than it actually does.
Check this:
http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm
Ah thanks
So to cut the story short, recharge it as much as you can and prevent the battery ever from being run out
Nahhh, not fully true. Somewhere else on the site of batteryuniversity it sais that completely discharging the battery will reset it's memmory. This is usefull after a lot of charges and discharges (in the beginning, I think they already did this (you may hope).
(the memmory helps the battery know where his power is storaged and how much power the battery has left. But doing this frequent speeds up the battery 's lenght of life
In my experience
Enjoy your device and charge battery when needed/desired
Use it normal
Batteries have a duration of 3-4 years aprox, no matter if you charge it every night or leave it till it´s empty...
When battery fails you buy another one and so on
Just my opinion,
My experience with the battery life on my touch pro 2 is that I will keep the phone usually docked in my cradle on my desk when working so it's always on charge. When I use my battery I wait till it's about 40-30% drained and will stick it on the cradle again.
When I'm in my bed ready to sleep, I use the normal charger and leave it on charge over night.
Still experimenting though.
ilabstudios said:
My experience with the battery life on my touch pro 2 is that I will keep the phone usually docked in my cradle on my desk when working so it's always on charge. When I use my battery I wait till it's about 40-30% drained and will stick it on the cradle again.
When I'm in my bed ready to sleep, I use the normal charger and leave it on charge over night.
Still experimenting though.
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Do you have a cradle for your Rhodium ? Where did you get it ?
Check my battery thread, it will tell you pretty much everything about li-ion batteries and taking care of them
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=519673
quarintus said:
Nahhh, not fully true. Somewhere else on the site of batteryuniversity it sais that completely discharging the battery will reset it's memmory. This is usefull after a lot of charges and discharges (in the beginning, I think they already did this (you may hope).
(the memmory helps the battery know where his power is storaged and how much power the battery has left. But doing this frequent speeds up the battery 's lenght of life
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Hmm, first of all Li-ion batteries have NO MEMORY unlike NiCd batteries. You probably refer to resetting the reading gauge - which is related to device's capability of getting accurate reading rather than battery itself. It is recommended to let the device die once a month and give it a full charge to "recalibrate" phone's battery meter (not the battery).
But you should avoid hitting 100% battery mark as well as going bellow 30% as much as possible.
from my experience as a phone shop owner and owner of many many phones i always advise my customers and friends as follows:
1st charge 10-12 hrs. allow battery to fully discharge
2nd charge at least 8 hrs
after 2nd charge you can charge and use as you want. the initial 2 charges kick start everything and starts your battery cycle on good stead
never had any complaints!
Another thing, is it bad to use your device whilst plugged in?
danmb said:
Another thing, is it bad to use your device whilst plugged in?
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its ok to do that as it will run off ac power while plugged in
danmb said:
Another thing, is it bad to use your device whilst plugged in?
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The battery should be as cold as possible when charged. So if you are using the phone the battery power drains and is charged at the same time. Therefore it gets warmer than without.
Best for the battery is to be charged when the device is switched off completely.
I wouldn't consider that much of a problem, because you have bought the device to use it and not to live in fear that you treat the battery right
when plugged into USB and playing a game on my TP2 I got the message the device is using too much power, and it drained the battery even though recharging via USB. No problems when using AC adapter though.
Used my XDA Orbit 2 for 2 years now, and mostly charged at free will. Battery is still fine, so no special charging rules for me...
I noticed though, that charging over USB takes quite some time while charging over AC cable is done within an hour or so. When looking at my AC it has 5 Watts of output power, while the USB only has 2.5. That would explain your issue with the battery running out even when having the USB cable plugged in.
StealthNet said:
Do you have a cradle for your Rhodium ? Where did you get it ?
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http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=179339

The Best To Charge Battery?

Hi All, I have question. Which one better to charge
1. Wait until Battery level reach 15% or less
2. Charge it every we want it, example battery status in 40% because we want to travelling, we charge it until 100%
3. Charge it every morning
4. Other Tips?
Best Regards
Jauhari
Hello
You should just plug it in when ever you have the chance m8.
Li-ion and lipo batteries does not suffer from the memory effect as nicd and nimh batteries did.
The li-ion and lipo batteries will most likely die if you do a full discharge, but no worries, when your phone tells you that it's out of power, it's not fully discharged.
Your phone has at built in protection, that shuts down the phone before it uses all the power on the battery.
(Have been working with batterie for many years, as I have been flying eletric model airplanes, with all types of batteries)
There are a huge number of threads on this!
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highboy said:
Hello
You should just plug it in when ever you have the chance m8.
Li-ion and lipo batteries does not suffer from the memory effect as nicd and nimh batteries did.
The li-ion and lipo batteries will most likely die if you do a full discharge, but no worries, when your phone tells you that it's out of power, it's not fully discharged.
Your phone has at built in protection, that shuts down the phone before it uses all the power on the battery.
(Have been working with batterie for many years, as I have been flying eletric model airplanes, with all types of batteries)
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Thanks you for this tips... now I have more knowledge about battery.
A little bit question again.
What should I do, when I charge my HTC Desire? Keep this gadget turn on or turn off this gadget and turn on again when the charging has completed?
ardsar said:
There are a huge number of threads on this!
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I am sorry for doing the some question. I was tried to search on this forum but I can't find it... this forum search didn't good jobs
jauhari said:
Thanks you for this tips... now I have more knowledge about battery.
A little bit question again.
What should I do, when I charge my HTC Desire? Keep this gadget turn on or turn off this gadget and turn on again when the charging has completed?
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Just keep it turned on m8.
leaving it on has a disadvantage
as soon as battery is full, it discharges. at a certain point it would charge again.
you lose unneccessary charging cycles for your battery. so charge over night with turned off handset.
Not true really. The life of Li-ion batteries is mainly rated in full charge/discharge cycles between what the manufacturer recommends as the limits. Fox max life this is often a maximum of 80%SOC and min of 20%. They ship them about 40% SOC as this is where they have longest shelf life. The phone manages these limits for you so you don't need to worry. The best thing to do is to keep it topped up but let it run down enough during the day, or it reduces battery life (think laptop that gets left plugged in Vs one that gets discharged a bit per day - leaving it plugged in kills the battery).
IMHO - Use it until your next at a charger be that at 70% or 7%.
JAmes.
This thread here might be a good reference for this topic.
jauhari said:
Hi All, I have question. Which one better to charge
1. Wait until Battery level reach 15% or less
2. Charge it every we want it, example battery status in 40% because we want to travelling, we charge it until 100%
3. Charge it every morning
4. Other Tips?
Best Regards
Jauhari
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1. I always try to charge it 10-15%
2. Sometimes i do charge it if the battery is 40% and im worried it might not last because i go somwhere, so charge it till full and unplug
3. Most of the time i charge it over night having the phone on.
Right now, end of day 2 and battery level is at 29%, probably due to 3g turned off as got connection failed error for couple days and cant connect :<
Put my new second battery to charge last night around 9pm - turned Desire off. The green light came after midnight, but I let the charger stay on. I disconnected the cable around 9am this morning - and the phone was on!!
It looks the phone turns on automatically when its fully charged(???!!!)
The charge was 94% with the green light on. Makes me doubt if the suggested (see other threads) initial charge needs to be 12hours. :/

Best way to charge battery

Kinada new to this. But
It is ok to charge the Samsung stock gsm battery at any percentage or should I wait till it low to charge it??
Like if I'm at 30% at night and need full battery for the next day, should I drain it to 10% ish or just let it charge from 30%??
Would it shorten the length of the battery or harm/damage the battery in any way??
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airkenada said:
Kinada new to this. But
It is ok to charge the Samsung stock gsm battery at any percentage or should I wait till it low to charge it??
Like if I'm at 30% at night and need full battery for the next day, should I drain it to 10% ish or just let it charge from 30%??
Would it shorten the length of the battery or harm/damage the battery in any way??
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doesnt matter with lithium.
Samsung Galaxy Nexus uses Li-Ion battery. So it doesn't matter if u charge it any way u like.
follow this for tips: http://lifehacker.com/5875162/how-often-should-i-charge-my-gadgets-battery-to-prolong-its-lifespan
Does leaving the phone plugged into the charger all night degrade the battery?
creeve4 said:
Does leaving the phone plugged into the charger all night degrade the battery?
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yes it does.. overcharging the battery is not good. it may decrease its capacity. it is always recommended to unplug it when your phone is fully charged
- It is best to keep the battery between 20-80% and never fully discharge it except for the first time just for calibration
- It is preferable to use the pc for charging (slow charging is better)
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries
mohaimed said:
yes it does.. overcharging the battery is not good. it may decrease its capacity. it is always recommended to unplug it when your phone is fully charged
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What you'd stated is true but doesn't the galaxy nexus have its own safety for this where it stops charging and runs off the battery til it drops to ~98-96% and then charges back up ?
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DynamicRam said:
- It is best to keep the battery between 20-80% and never fully discharge it except for the first time just for calibration
- It is preferable to use the pc for charging (slow charging is better)
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries
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Is slow charging really better? In my experience, when charging from AC, the battery lasts longer than when I charged it from my laptop.
fifarunnerr said:
Is slow charging really better? In my experience, when charging from AC, the battery lasts longer than when I charged it from my laptop.
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It should be better because its cooler also its more steady than an AC Charger
I just charge it at night before sleeping and unplug it when I wake up..taught the battery stop overcharging??
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creeve4 said:
Does leaving the phone plugged into the charger all night degrade the battery?
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No, the charger will stop charging when the battery is full. If it didn't, an explosion would awaken you at night....

Am I damaging the battery?

so I got Need for speed for my Xperia S (great game by the way, would recommend) the only problem is it is un UTTER battery drain, I'm talking rapid draining even having the screen brightness on low. Do you think the battery is getting damaged by my heavy use in this way? I'm charging it to full, playing it for a good hour and then it needs to be recharged so I plug it in.
cheers
adsada arc said:
so I got Need for speed for my Xperia S (great game by the way, would recommend) the only problem is it is un UTTER battery drain, I'm talking rapid draining even having the screen brightness on low. Do you think the battery is getting damaged by my heavy use in this way? I'm charging it to full, playing it for a good hour and then it needs to be recharged so I plug it in.
cheers
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No you are not damaging the battery. Hd games drain your battery. Dont worry it happens with every phone. Please post questions in question and answer section.
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How about if I play while the phone is charging, does this affect it in any way, like how with a laptop you should take out the battery if its plugged into the wall to extend the battery's life?
adsada arc said:
How about if I play while the phone is charging, does this affect it in any way, like how with a laptop you should take out the battery if its plugged into the wall to extend the battery's life?
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No it wont affect your battery...I have been doing that for the past 10 months
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It's a difficult question. From one perspective it's better to keep the phone plugged in because a Li-ion battery has a finite amount of recharging cycles. The worst thing you can do is to completely discharge your battery, then completely charge it again and so on several times. Which is what you've been doing and these are wasted recharge cycles.
But constantly charging your phone will also make it hotter and that combined with an intensive game will make your phone too hot, which might result in some components overheating and a reduced life expectancy.
So I'd advice to keep your phone plugged in if possible, but don't play for hours.
When you compare to laptops, it's indeed better to remove the battery when you're plugged into the wall (keep in mind that the battery doesn't lose its charge though, there's nothing worse for a Li-ion than being completely empty). But there's no phone you can run without a battery so you can't do that . It's also a question of luck. I never remove my laptop's battery and it still easily lasts 2 hours after having it for 2.5 years and using it a LOT (when plugged in mostly). It was just a cheap laptop with a 6 cells battery. Most of my friends that have a laptop that old or older (and also more expensive) can barely keep it charged for more than 10 minutes now.
No,
nowadays you can't damage your battery in any way as I know.
But it is recommended to charge your phone to 100% and turn all notifications off then let it on sleep mode till your Phone is going off by itself.
This doesn't improve the Battery lifetime or something like that but it is recommeded
thanks for the advice everyone

Correct method of charging batt

hi,
Does draining your battery life until its off before charging a good way?
I remember when I bought this phone the sales rep told me to never ever drain the batt and make sure to charge it when 20% or less.
skyp6user said:
hi,
Does draining your battery life until its off before charging a good way?
I remember when I bought this phone the sales rep told me to never ever drain the batt and make sure to charge it when 20% or less.
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Maybe once a month. But remember, it;s good to always charge your phone, even if you charge it half an hour, one hour, or fully charged. This way you keep the battery alive.
From what i read, you should usually avoid draining it full or charging it full. But once in a while do so for some calibration purpose.
thanks!
Hi!
The best way ( if you can ) is to power-off your device and than connect to the charger ! - assuming you have less of 10% .
Also is recommended for a battery long life, fully discharge the battery every two or three months !
On the other hand it is not wrong to charge the phone when you think , no matter how the battery indicator shows ! - this type of battery should not be formatted on beginning, cause is not a Ni-Mh or Ni-Cd type !
skyp6user said:
hi,
Does draining your battery life until its off before charging a good way?
I remember when I bought this phone the sales rep told me to never ever drain the batt and make sure to charge it when 20% or less.
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20%-80% is best fir li-ion/ li+-pol batterys. But I dont do that coz as it is the battrry does not last. I rather charge to 100% and replace battery along the line.
b.t.w. if the battery shows 0%, the battery is far from dead. just the internal circuit cutting the power off
thank you guys!
benna said:
20%-80% is best fir li-ion/ li+-pol batterys. But I dont do that coz as it is the battrry does not last. I rather charge to 100% and replace battery along the line.
b.t.w. if the battery shows 0%, the battery is far from dead. just the internal circuit cutting the power off
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Good luck replacing the battery on the HUAWEI Ascend P6 LOL

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