Screen real estate - T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II

Just played with a note II today, sadly can't afford until next week but man is everything big on that screen unlike the original note.
Anyone running LCD Density or the such and does it look good? Really bothering me on the size of icons and menus

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So for everyone out there, like me, that has had the phone for a week now. How do you like the resolution? I jumped ship from the evo 3d, so the resolution is a little less than on that phone. I will admit, I miss it a bit, but the quality of the screen more than makes up for the lacking of resolution.
My question is two fold: For those of you (especially if you had qHD phone before) who have used the phone for a bit now, how do you like the resolution? Does the text seem grainy? Does the email, text messages, web browsing, etc seem to suffer at that resolution on a 4.5 inch display?
Personally, I am not sure. I would hesitate to say that it doesn't effect it, but it could be in my head.
Secondly, do you think the resolution will effect the look of the next version of android (ice cream sandwich) negatively?
Just looking to start a discussion on what may be the only negative about this phone.
I have to admit I miss qHD, but the amazing contrast makes up for it. Reading an ebook in night mode (white text on black bg) is absolutely amazing. And the pixel density isn't too bad...from a glance with casual use you don't really notice. I don't think I could tolerate the crayola-esque size without setting the dpi to 200 though. At that size it looks great, but makes some GUI elements ugly/broken. Fortunately I like stock android, so I've replaced the dialer, contacts, etc since I don't want them anyway.
Check out the macro photos I took comparing the panels: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1273814
Coming from the Evo 3D as well... Don't miss it at all at this point. The 1080p fills the void and the only time i see pixels or grain is when Im scrolling.
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Honestly I can't stop starring at the display on this bad boy! Just got mine about 3 days ago. Amazing how I can even see the display outside, in Phoenix at that!
I did notice playing angry birds when it's doing the training part, or shows you how to play that it looked a little pixelated but when I was playing the game that went away. As if perhaps that piece of the game's quality was originally like that. That's the only place I've seen any type of grainy/pixelated picture. Love this phone! Wish 4G was available in phoenix.
this phone is the greatest! although the resolution is not like the qhd from the 3d, 4.5 super amoled plus, and the battery life makes up for it, battery on this monster is amazing!!!
Miss it, I don't even remember it. While the resolution was higher on the 3D, the E4GT screen seems light years ahead of the washed out EVO 3D screen.
In this battle, WVGA Super Amoled Plus definetly beats a QHD SLCD. I bet no one was getting any wows when someone looked at their EVO 3D screen even though it was QHD. You will get some wows when people see the EGT4 screen though.
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Miss it, I don't even remember it. While the resolution was higher on the 3D, the E4GT screen seems light years ahead of the washed out EVO 3D screen.
In this battle, WVGA Super Amoled Plus definetly beats a QHD SLCD. I bet no one was getting any wows when someone looked at their EVO 3D screen even though it was QHD. You will get some wows when people see the EGT4 screen though.
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+1 couldn't be said any better
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I have both the photon and the ET4g and I must say I really like the qhd display on my photon and the overall feel of it better than the et4g
, still trying it out but the huge icons and the touchwiz I am not adjusting well. I usually use go launcher but it foesnt scale right on the bigger low res screen.
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abrcrmdl23 said:
I have both the photon and the ET4g and I must say I really like the qhd display on my photon and the overall feel of it better than the et4g
, still trying it out but the huge icons and the touchwiz I am not adjusting well. I usually use go launcher but it foesnt scale right on the bigger low res screen.
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I'm using Go Launcher on my ET4G and it looks perfect.. Currently using it with the Honeycomb theme and the icons are much smaller and look great! The screen transition animations are buttery smooth compared to my original Galaxy S!
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I have both the photon and the ET4g and I must say I really like the qhd display on my photon and the overall feel of it better than the et4g
, still trying it out but the huge icons and the touchwiz I am not adjusting well. I usually use go launcher but it foesnt scale right on the bigger low res screen.
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The icons are big, but they don't look bad. Overall, the screen, yes even when it comes to reading, seems to be clear than my evo 3d...which I have setting right next too it.
No offense, big the photon, arguably, has the worst screen of all 3.
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Coming from the Evo 3D as well... Don't miss it at all at this point. The 1080p fills the void and the only time i see pixels or grain is when Im scrolling.
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Good to see you here! I miss my colts back for the 3d, but I love this phone!
Also, LCD density changer can give you the feel of qHD if you are rooted. Set it to about 200 and it looks pretty good.
Alot of epic og owners knew the quality of it me I could care less even tho I did not come from a qhd display. The blacks and colors are far beyond any other screen out there and the size to me is perfect

[Q] Capacitive Touchscreen Grid Size

I purchased the Photon on release day and I came from an Iphone 4. My gripe with the Photon is what appears to be touchscreen sensitivity/preciseness.
When I look at my Photon with the screen turned off in the sunlight at an angle, I can see a grid of boxes that appears to be the touchsensing grid. When I look at an Iphone the same way, I can see a similar type of grid. The difference in the grids is substantial, the Photon grid boxes are significantly larger than those on the Iphone.
I've noticed that in general, the Photon has worse touch sensitivity than the Iphone 4 did. Making exact screen presses on website links, for example, is simply not as fluid or precise. Not even the unlock keypad works as well.
I haven't had an opportunity to look at the Epic Touch (GS2), I'm wondering what the grid is like on this phone? Does anyone have both an Iphone4 or Photon and GS2? Can you look at the two devices to let me know what size grid each phone has?
TIA!
Tapatalk doesn't want to upload my screen shot, but the app Touch Test shows a 16x10 grid.
Don't have a photon to compare, hope that helps.
FWIW I have never noticed the touch sensitivity to be lacking at all except when I'm plugged in to the stock charger.
I downloaded the app. I presume you just counted the boxes you saw on the screen?
I see 10.75 boxes x 19.25 boxes.
I wonder if the number of boxes is related to resolution, and not to the actual capacitive grid. It seems to be mainly for determining the number of touchpoints that exist.
I did, and you know what I think you're correct.
I replaced the digitizer in an HTC Evo and there were was a much denser grid than 16x10 or 10.75 x 19; so that app may just go off of resolution.
That leaves me with just my subjective evidence - I have never noticed a lack of precision with this phone.
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Well do me a favor. Turn off the screen, go out into the sunlight, and look as hard as you can at the screen at various angles until you see the grid. How big are the boxes? I would say the Iphone4 boxes are approximately 1/16" and the Photon boxes are approximately 1/6".
I see nothing but deep, beautiful, SAMOLED+ black...
That's all I got. Hopefully someone else can help. Is this the only thing keeping you from buying the phone? Go to Best Buy and get your hands on one. You won't be disappointed.
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I'm sure that Sprint/BB won't let me take the phone outside to look. That's why I've posted my question here. You really have to look close. Even a very bright bathroom light works. I counted the grid on my photon, it's 17.25 x 11.
I was at a Sprint store yesterday and played with the photon out of curiosity. First of all the display is hideous looking...ugly hollow sub-pixels...guh...and I did notice that the touch behavior sucked extremely. I chalked it up to a very laggy UI, which seemed strange given the specs...but hearing this suggests to me that it has a crappy digitizer.
I'm not sure how much the distance between the grid would effect precision, but it must.
That said I can't see the grid on my ET4G at all. Though compared to the Photon the touch-interface experience is far more natural...frankly I've never even thought about it until now. It works great.
Well, in the end what I want to know is how many grid panels the GS2 digitizer has. I know the Iphone4 has at least twice the number as the Photon.
I've only had one opportunity to use a GS2, and I don't tend to trust store display models. For example, the display model of the Photon I used was in terrible condition compared to a brand new phone.
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I purchased the Photon on release day and I came from an Iphone 4. My gripe with the Photon is what appears to be touchscreen sensitivity/preciseness.
When I look at my Photon with the screen turned off in the sunlight at an angle, I can see a grid of boxes that appears to be the touchsensing grid. When I look at an Iphone the same way, I can see a similar type of grid. The difference in the grids is substantial, the Photon grid boxes are significantly larger than those on the Iphone.
I've noticed that in general, the Photon has worse touch sensitivity than the Iphone 4 did. Making exact screen presses on website links, for example, is simply not as fluid or precise. Not even the unlock keypad works as well.
I haven't had an opportunity to look at the Epic Touch (GS2), I'm wondering what the grid is like on this phone? Does anyone have both an Iphone4 or Photon and GS2? Can you look at the two devices to let me know what size grid each phone has?
TIA!
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I've noticed this lack of precision on many Motorola phones too.
That grid I think you are speaking of is pentile display. My moms photon had that and my xoom used to has that. The epic touch doesn't have that so no grid lines.
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That grid I think you are speaking of is pentile display. My moms photon had that and my xoom used to has that. The epic touch doesn't have that so no grid lines.
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I'm sorry, but what you said made little sense. Pixels are extremely tiny, but the grids are extremely large, up to 1/6" (according to what people here have said.)
The only lack of precision I notice with the SGS2 is the bottom touch capacitive buttons (home, menu, back, search). It seems like the sweet spot for it to work is very small. Never have a problem with the actual screen though.
I have seen those grids before as well on many phones and tablets (touchpad was the worst). I have never seen them on AMOLED screens though. I have looked for them, and maybe they are there, but I can't seem to find it. Could be that the AMOLED screen just doesn't allow for it to be seen. FWIW, I have tried both the iPhone 4 and own the GS2 and I would say neither is more precise. They are both so accurate. I can easily hit a check box on a website with either screen - though I do prefer 4.5" over 3.5".
And yes, that is what she said.
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I'm sorry, but what you said made little sense. Pixels are extremely tiny, but the grids are extremely large, up to 1/6" (according to what people here have said.)
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Ok I think then its just the touch sensor that motorola likes to use bc the photon and xoom both have like a criss cross thin wire grid pattern that you can see at certain angles, which you don't see at all with this phone.
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Should Note 3 be slightly bigger?

For those who got this as a pseudo tablet? its been almost 6 weeks I got the beauty and about 2 weeks since I got the allshare cast, and I haven't touched my roku or asus media player
Note 2 is everything for me, after using it so much, the screen size is normal to me ( compared to my previous S3 ) but I really don't mind it being slightly bigger - about 6"
Lol
I dont get it.. are u asking a question? And if so.... this is general
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Note 2 is everything for me, after using it so much, the screen size is normal to me ( compared to my previous S3 ) but I really don't mind it being slightly bigger - about 6"
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So you are saying that you'd like it to be more like answering your TV when it rings? Wow.
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This question is redundant for many reasons, the biggest being I've seen about two active threads on XDA, about this...
Cnet: Galaxy Note 3 with 6.3-inch display reportedly in the works
The rumor is that 6.3" will be the next screen size. Whether this is true remains to be seen. Too early to tell.
With a 16:9 aspect ratio for the screen, that would mean the width of the phone would grow approximately 0.375" more, or 3.5". (Note II's width is 3.125".)
Personally, I actually like the idea. I probably wouldn't even mind a 7" (Approximately 7.25" if I go by 9cm x 16cm.) screen if they keep to the edge thinness around the screen, if not thinner. That should allow the growth of the phone to be as minimal as possible. Of course, I'd stop at 7" for the max size I wouldn't mind on my phone. Any larger and many people will definitely start having problems holding their phones edge to edge.
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I dont get it.. are u asking a question? And if so.... this is general
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So you are saying that you'd like it to be more like answering your TV when it rings? Wow.
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This question is redundant for many reasons, the biggest being I've seen about two active threads on XDA, about this...
Cnet: Galaxy Note 3 with 6.3-inch display reportedly in the works
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General Thread - thus the question
I am basically saying that since many of us got this as pseudo tablet, it would be nice to have a slightly bigger screen so we could read ebooks etc
When I got the S3, screen seemed big and then we get used to it, same with the note - but we could increase that threshold to perfection
Its still a phone man...are u kidding? if thats the case u gonna expect them to make it 8 inches next year???
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Its still a phone man...are u kidding? if thats the case u gonna expect them to make it 8 inches next year???
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I know but much better than carrying 2 devices, what I am saying it would satisfy being a tablet and a regular phone if it was slightly more bigger
I have no issues carrying it now, hands have plenty more room
I wouldn't care for a larger screen so much as I would like Samsung to natively support a better pixel density so that I could fit more onto the screen. Something like 182 instead of the default 240(?).
If they kept the phone the same size, but increased the screen size, it would not be too bad.
I'm wondering if the next Note could eliminate the home button. That would be one way of increasing screen real estate, without making the device too much larger. It could go fully-touchscreen, as Jelly Bean devices are supposed to be, anyway. However, I think the home button has sort of become synonymous with the Galaxy line of devices, so it may stay. I would love 6 - 6.3" inches on the new Note. I wouldn't have issues with mobility.
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I'm wondering if the next Note could eliminate the home button. That would be one way of increasing screen real estate, without making the device too much larger. It could go fully-touchscreen, as Jelly Bean devices are supposed to be, anyway. However, I think the home button has sort of become synonymous with the Galaxy line of devices, so it may stay. I would love 6 - 6.3" inches on the new Note. I wouldn't have issues with mobility.
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Why not 7" I think it will still fit my back pocket gotta love big screen phone.
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Why not 7" I think it will still fit my back pocket gotta love big screen phone.
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Then its like the tablet, but seriously, slightly more bigger would be sweet
I would like to see no home button and screen extended all the way up and down. 6"-6,3" screen would be awesome.
I am fine as is hope they don't make the size of the phone bigger. If they can make screen bigger but keep same size I am OK with that.
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I used to think I'd want a Note 3 to have a 6" screen with small bezels and no home button. Now that I've played with my Note 2 for a week, I'm guessing I'll prefer going the other way. I'd rather have a 5" 1080p phone with very thin side bezels, a thin top bezel, and a thicker bottom bezel with 5 configurable capacitive buttons (I have a Nexus 7 and I like most things Nexus, but disagree with the move to on-screen buttons which most of the time waste real-estate). I'd be fine with a thicker phone too though to get an even bigger battery - heck, I'll take 4000 mAh or more, now that I know what 3100 can do. I knew the Note 2 was long and had tried mockups before buying, but now that I have the real thing, it's a bit too long for me - not a deal breaker, but I no longer think about going bigger. By the time 5" 1080p screens are common items and I upgrade from the Note 2, I hope there will be lots of options, some with pens (which I'm not convinced I need, but an interesting thing to try), and ideally, some without Touchwiz which I really don't like so far - I'm sure I'll be trying a ROM with a more Nexus like experience before I'm done with this phone. Too bad Google missed the ball (for me) so badly with the Nexus 4, I would have liked to consider it. Maybe the Nexus 5 or whatever the first 1080p Nexus will be called will be better.
Yes it will has 6 inch screen
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I used to think I'd want a Note 3 to have a 6" screen with small bezels and no home button. Now that I've played with my Note 2 for a week, I'm guessing I'll prefer going the other way. I'd rather have a 5" 1080p phone with very thin side bezels, a thin top bezel, and a thicker bottom bezel with 5 configurable capacitive buttons (I have a Nexus 7 and I like most things Nexus, but disagree with the move to on-screen buttons which most of the time waste real-estate). I'd be fine with a thicker phone too though to get an even bigger battery - heck, I'll take 4000 mAh or more, now that I know what 3100 can do. I knew the Note 2 was long and had tried mockups before buying, but now that I have the real thing, it's a bit too long for me - not a deal breaker, but I no longer think about going bigger. By the time 5" 1080p screens are common items and I upgrade from the Note 2, I hope there will be lots of options, some with pens (which I'm not convinced I need, but an interesting thing to try), and ideally, some without Touchwiz which I really don't like so far - I'm sure I'll be trying a ROM with a more Nexus like experience before I'm done with this phone. Too bad Google missed the ball (for me) so badly with the Nexus 4, I would have liked to consider it. Maybe the Nexus 5 or whatever the first 1080p Nexus will be called will be better.
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This has absolutely no chance in hell of happening, for a plethora of reasons.
1) It would be going backwards, when sales of the Galaxy Note line have proven that people like phones with really large screens, so Samsung backtracking to anything smaller that 5.5" inches would be stupid, and would eventually run into product overlap.
2) The product overlap would come with the rumored Galaxy S4. The S4 is strongly rumored to have a 5" screen. There's probably a good chance it will also have 1080p, but I sort of doubt it. At any rate, there would be no business case for Samsung to have two products that are virtually identical. The S III already shares a significant amount of the Note IIs features, sans having an S Pen. You make a Note III with a 5" screen and you'll just have an S4 with an S Pen. That's utterly asinine.
3) I'm willing to bet the vast majority of people wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a 720p screen and a 1080p screen. This is just the hype for this year. Seems like every year there a new hype geared towards sheep and ill-informed people. One year it was 3D technology. Last year it was quad core technology. This year its 1080p. Another year photo pixels were all the rave. Another year Apple's retina display was all the rave. Pretty much none of those things mean jack s*** in the grand scheme of things. I remember when I was going to purchase a new 40"+ 3D LED TV. I read many reviews to see if there was a huge difference between 720p and full-1080p HD. EVERY review stated that the only time the difference between 720p & 1080p became noticeable and worth considering, was when you had a screen larger than 40". So, if that's true, there's no way in hell anyone is seeing a noteworthy screen difference in a device as small as a cellular phone. At one point, I had a 720p Plasma HDTV and a 3D LED HDTV, simultaneously. To be honest, I was more impressed with the display on my 720p plasma, than I am on my 1080p 3D TV I ended up keeping. And I only kept the 3D television because it was packed with more features that sort of leveled the playing field.
If you desire as smaller phone, the great thing about Android, is that there's seemingly an endless array of phones to choose from. Get an S III or S4 or DNA or Nexus. Sounds like the Note II isn't a good fit for you.
Currently I'm sure I can't tell the difference between 1280x720 and 1920x1080 for a 5" display. When I finally break down and admit I'm old enough to use reading glasses (which I should have done years ago as my close focus distance moved from 7" where it used to be to 13" now), then I suspect I will be able to tell the difference when holding my phone closer than 8". Other than focus, I have no issue holding my phone that close and I'll be able to get that much more detail into my brain (from maps, text, whatever). You can call 1080p hype if you want, but I think it is still actual progress. I don't know what photo pixels are, and I was not interested in 3D myself, but 1080p I am optimistic about.
Sorry if I'm not following thread rules or something - I'm just saying what I was thinking. I agree that Samsung Note 3 will quite likely go bigger, especially if the S4 is bigger. Who knows, anything could happen by the time I get another phone - maybe the glasses concept will be so appealing, I'll go that route.
I chose the Note II because a) I wanted a 5" or more display, b) I wanted to try out the s-pen concept which I don't know if it will be for me or not till I try, c) I wanted a big battery, and SD storage, d) I don't want to change carriers since as much as I don't like AT&T for many reasons, I'm on a family plan which I don't want to change and they are the only carrier with good coverage over my work campus. I ruled out the Nexus 4 and the Droid DNA pretty fast though I looked at them. I absolutely didn't need LTE and my data experience with AT&T around Los Angeles for a few days and Las Vegas for a few days has been very unimpressive - no better than my previous 3GS iPhone. Hopefully that will improve as the network improves.
Anyway, it's pretty early to speculate now - I better get back to figuring out how to use my phone to get my core iPhone use cases working again: podcasts, visual voicemail (both of these use cases require installing add on software I've found), offline topographic maps (I have 3 programs I've been trying on the Nexus 7), and a few other things. For ROMs, the HyperNote sounded the most interesting to me, but it seems like the AT&T model won't run many ROMs yet (e.g. no HyperNote yet) - I hope this is some transitional issue as porting ROMs from the International to the various carrier versions (which is a huge annoyance to me that this fracturing even exists) is worked out.
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If they kept the phone the same size, but increased the screen size, it would not be too bad.
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This. I wouldn't want anything physically bigger, but if they can remove more bezel (and NOT remove physical buttons), That would be sweet.

Kinda disappointed in the Note 12.2

I've been using a Galaxy Tab 10.1 since June of 2011. It's a little long in the tooth in speed and version of Android. And, it has no SD card slot.
So, I went over to my Best Buy and bought a Note 12.2. There's a lot to love about the Note but there are some things I'm disappointed in.
Things I like...
- It's bigger. Nice to have a larger screen for some of the apps it's a godsend, for others it just more awkward white space.
- Battery life is better than the Tab 10.1 even though it has to drive more pixels.
- Micro-usb. The Tab had a 30 pin connector which was a pain in the butt.
- Camera is a lot better but who takes photos with a tablet? Only iPad nerds do that.
- Speed. It's very, very snappy compared to the Tab but with 8 cores, all of which are faster than the Tab's 2 cores, that's to be expected.
Things I don't like...
- The launcher. (not the Magazine UX part). It's no different than the Tab. In fact, there are no more icons on the screen, they're just larger. With all those pixels I was hoping to have icons at least as small as the Tab. And more of them on the screen. It looks like an interface built for the elderly. Kinda like those telephones with huge buttons. I know, I know, I can use another launcher but then I will lose the Magazine UX.
- Magazine UX. I was really looking forward to this. But, alas, it has so very few apps and widgets available that I find I never use it.
- The weight. It's only 4 ounces more than my Tab but it turns out that is a lot. I find my left thumb aching after a while while holding it. It's not really convenient.
- The Zagg case. I bought the Zagg case as I have a similar full keyboard case by Logitech for the Tab. It's nowhere near as nice as the Logitech case. It's hard to remove and feels very cheap and flimsy compared to the metal keyboard by Logitech. They key placement for special keys isn't very well designed either.
All in all I'd say I'm disappointed in the Note 12.2. I'm still within the 15 day return period for Best Buy and am on the fence about returning it. The problem is that the one I would replace it with is the Tab Pro 10.1 with 32 gig of memory. But, I can't find that anywhere. 16 gig yes, but 32 gig is no where to be found.
Help me out here. Are there features that are compelling that I haven't found? If so, push me into keeping this tablet.
You criticize Magazine UX + Launcher. Well, you´re completely right. But what does it matter ?
You criticize the weight. Yes, it´s "heavy". But hey, it´s the largest screen ever. Anything has its price.
And we should not forget: 750g are not too much. Just put your iPad Air in a regular leather case and you will be very close to 1000g.
The Zagg case .. well... that´s the case. But not the Tab...
Just get another launcher, another case ...
I would complain about other stuff:
- First the yellowish color at the cam-border.... Don´t know if this is just normal or I got a bad unit.
- The pixel density could be better . This is no "Retina" Display anymore since you can clearly see the dots.
- Performance issues ? WTH is this stuttering again and again ? Are 3GB + 8 cores still not enough ? iPad is running on 2 cores / 1GB RAM and is much smoother.
As you say the launcher is a disappointment, therefore I´ll try AWD, should solve it up.
Positive:
- Big, big display, wonderful for movies and especially comics
- No navigation bar at the bottom is great for apps not supporting immersive mode. (SmartQ-Reader!!!)
- Then pen is doing a good job.
Missing:
- Still not intensively tested her battery life and speakers.
Seems a though most of these things could have been seen on a review or playing with it in store before buying it.
You are both correct. I could have see much of this in advance. I really wanted the Tab Pro for $100 less. I have a Note 3 and, before that, a Note 2, and never take the stylus out. It's a non-starter. I believe that the Tab Pro will be out next month so I essentially paid $100 to get the larger Note Pro a month early.
I was running KitKat 4.4.2 on my original Tab 10.1 so immersion is nothing new. In fact, on the ROM I was running it was a toggle. I preferred it to be toggled off as it hid the status bar at the top.
I don't read comics and I watch movies on my 52" TV, not a 12" tablet so those things don't excite me. However, I do watch TV via Slingbox when my wife is watching something else on the large TV.
I'm using Apex as my launcher now, it's been my standard on my phones and tablets for years. I'm able to shrink the icons and fit more onto a screen. In effect I've turned the 12.2 Note Pro into just a larger version that runs smoother than my Tab 10.1. That's nice, don't get me wrong, but it's not a dramatic upgrade, just an incremental one.
I wish that it allowed all apps to be run in multi-window view. That's one thing the ROM on my Tab 10.1 made available. Yeah, some don't look right but then you learn which ones not to use in that mode.
I'm getting used to the Zagg case. I like the larger keyboard as I'm a touch typist. It also shuts off the screen when attached and turns on the screen when removed. Must be a magnet thing.
One thing I've found that I'm not fond of is the hard home button and back button in the center of the screen. I'm used to being able to put those anywhere on the bottom of the screen closer to one of my hands. Turns out that I miss that a lot from the Tab 10.1 maybe the most.
I have to say that the volume from the speakers is significantly better than the original Tab. Very loud and clear. I'm enjoying that quite a bit.
Battery life is very good. I can almost go two days.
It took a week or so for me to get used to the size of the Note 2 when I first got it. Once I got used to it, though, I'd never go back to a smaller screen. It appears that I'm getting accustomed to the 12.2 display also. I'm leaning more and more toward keeping it.

Is the screen really good?

After returning the Nexus 6p for the battery issues on a brand new device, I'm considering buying the Z Play.
A thing that makes me doubt is the screen. The resolution is the same of my 3 years old Nexus 5, but with a bigger screen, so the overall PPI is worse.
I have stopped by a couple of shops but they only had the Moto Z, so I haven't been able to test the screen of the Play.
So my question is, is the screen really good when you look at it? I don't want to buy it and after first boot realize that even the Nexus 5 screen looks smoother...
It's a good looking display. Not as good as my 2K screen on my S7, but it is good for a 1080p screen. It's also an AMOLED, so the colors look nice and it has an amazing contrast ratio.
The PPI is amazing. QHD screens are nice but not massively different than FHD screens.
I love the screen, I think it's great and coming from my note 4, I don't even notice a difference. But honestly unless you're using it for VR you probably won't be able to tell a difference between 400 and 500+ PPI.
Compared to the 6P that it replaced, it really is a nice looking screen. Plenty bright even at the lowest setting, but I noticed vertical lines running through mine. Has anyone else noticed that?
None but I do get lag after the phone is not used in 3 or 4 hours. Haven't tried to flash a factory md5 yet but if it keeps it up
i'll have to get rid of it. Its really basic when it comes to stock settings and havent found an app to restore some tuning options.
honestly, the screen was my biggest concern coming from the S7 Edge (the edges on the Edge were just annoying).. but i really can't tell the difference, visually.
the moto Z play screen is just damn good. bright colors, clear lines. it just works. plus the phenomenal battery life just adds to the perks of this phone.
When some text appears in different colors on black background, it is clearly to notice that red is on a higher level than white and blue a bit below white. This is a thing I had with Samsung Galaxy S3 also, and I was glad when I wasn't using AMOLED anymore. Thought with smaller structures (resolution much higher) it would be less obvious, but it is clear to see. Under other circumstances the screen is really fine.
Its awesome!

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