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how many have devices like this? It doesnt seem to disappear on mine until about half brightness up.. and even there i can slightly tell. is this a problem on most phones or only some? Also with light usage i'm losing over 10% per hour, doesnt seem right at all
All AMOLED screens have that issue at low brightness, it just varies from phone to phone. Give it a few charge cycles before you start looking at the battery. The battery on my Nexus drained extremely quickly when I first got it but it's been lasting longer and longer with each passing day (3 so far)
My screen is the same, you need to be at half brightness to get a decent image. Auto brightness in full darkness makes you think that the screen is totally broken.
yours has like bands of a different shade too? mine has one thick one on the right of the screen and it's pretty annoying.. about to go into the city tomorrow to exchange it but if there all like that then i dont know
I went in to the store, and they said that they wouldn't switch it out.
Mine looks fine at lowest brightness. I use mine mostly at.about 10% brightness and look great.
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Yes ! I thought that mine was also broken. It is good to know i am not alone .
can we get a screenshot?
Would it even show in a screenshot? Yes, it's AMOLED... that's the way it is. More than worth it.
It wouldn't show in a screenshot since this is a hardware related issue. And I don't think it's normal if it has brighter spots like explained. Mine isn't as smooth as you would expect either at lower brightness levels but it is not like explained by the OP.
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All SAMOLEDs sacrifice clarity and color representation for slightly better black levels. Just the nature of the screen technology. All 4 Samsung models (and all 7 phones) I've come across have it.
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Mine looks fine at lowest brightness. I use mine mostly at.about 10% brightness and look great.
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in denial???
I've never seen the banding effect before, and this is coming from someone in a household with two out-of-commission Galaxy S', two GSIIs, a Focus, and my Nexus. The PenTile screen door effect can get to me if I'm looking for it, but that's the only SAMOLED issue I'm familiar with.
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I actually like the slightly grainy look mine has at lower brightness levels
Would Voodoo Control be compatible with this? It was an awesome feature that my Nexus S had!
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Not only is mine grainy at low brightness, it also has a pink and green tinge (in opposite sides of the screen)
It doesn't seem to happen on the 1st gen AMOLED (Nexus one, not grainy at low light) or S-AMOLED (Galaxy S, it did have an overall blue tint, but it was on the WHOLE screen)
Not completely noticeable, but would have expected better. At 40% or higher, its barely noticeable.
Got the same problem 40-50% and its barely noticable, any lower and i can see much distortion.
I know its a hardware thing but is this something that might be fixed with a future update or are we stuck with this?
The screen will look grainy on white/grey backgrounds at lower brightness settings, but there should not be any vertical/horizontal banding on the screen.
My first phone had a vertical bar of banding going down the entire screen, and bothered the crap out of me. Went in this morning and had it swapped with a Nexus that has no issues. For the price that we're paying for this phone (especially those with International unlocked imports) it better be perfect.
yup, i only ever see it in one place (the grain), and thats on the store before anything loads (an all gray background). Don't see it on white or anything else... that i know is pentile.
Galaxy Note is similar at lower brightness levels, must be AMOLED.
iPhone 4S is best if reading at lowest brightness levels is very important,
but in brighter light the Nexus and Note look amazing.
According to GSMarena the nexus only has 250 nits brightness. That is so damn low I dont know what to say.
So how does this affect sunlight performance? A friend of mine said it's just "average" which has me worried.
I've used it in direct sunlight and I can read everything fine on the screen as long as you avoid any direct glare in the screen obviously. Compared to my sister's iPhone 4 it's much better.
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According to GSMarena the nexus only has 250 nits brightness. That is so damn low I dont know what to say.
So how does this affect sunlight performance? A friend of mine said it's just "average" which has me worried.
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It's Okey for day to day use. iPhone do have better performance if that is what you want to know. Compared with Galaxy S II they are both bright and clear in open air.
But if you ask me, I prefer not to read anything under straight sun shine because it will do harm to your eyes. And please don't look at your screen of any kind when walking out doors.
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It's Okey for day to day use. iPhone do have better performance if that is what you want to know. Compared with Galaxy S II they are both bright and clear in open air.
But if you ask me, I prefer not to read anything under straight sun shine because it will do harm to your eyes. And please don't look at your screen of any kind when walking out doors.
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My nexus S is absolutely amazing in sunlight on par with iphone and I can easily read anything even on the brightest day. Havent compared with S2 but I would think it would be about the same.
So I suppose the galaxy nexus would have a bit inferior outdoor visibility.
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And please don't look at your screen of any kind when walking out doors.
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Yeah, you might be able to read a text or take a phone call when outside. You definitely don't want to do that.
I always found the screen to be great in direct sunlight compared to my previous phones the atrix and nexus one. Maybe there are better phones, but I certainly can see perfectly even in bright Cali sunshine.
However the 4.0.4 update changed auto brightness so its delayed like 30 seconds before it kicks up to max brightness when you first walk outside. Kinda annoying.
I just upgraded from my evo and the Sprint Galaxy Nexus is the worst phone I have ever had for sunlight use.
I went on a road trip and tried to use my phone as a gps and could not read the screen because of the sun, and I never had these issues with my EVO 4g.
and the speaker phone is really quite too.
I think the galaxy nexus is really bad under direct sunlight. Compared to my friends iPhone 4S, the galaxy nexus screen is disappointing under sunlight.
I also think I had better experience with my previous phone, the Galaxy S Captivate.
You people must be staring at a different screen than I am because I have never had an issue looking at any SAMOLED screen in direct sunlight, or other bright areas. Now yes, you can't see anything running it on the lowest brightness setting, but turn up the brightness and I can see everything. If I'm driving in the middle of the day, I can usually keep it at half brightness (from Settings Power Widget) and still see everything unless the sun is shining on it and glaring in my face.
GSMArena did a display test on the galaxy S3 and it is much brighter at full brightness. Galaxy note is also much brighter so why is it that the nexus has such a dim HD SAMOLED screen?? Is it software based so people dont end up with terrible battery time??
I so so wish the nexus can have brighter screen, my biggest complaint with the phone.
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GSMArena did a display test on the galaxy S3 and it is much brighter at full brightness. Galaxy note is also much brighter so why is it that the nexus has such a dim HD SAMOLED screen?? Is it software based so people dont end up with terrible battery time??
I so so wish the nexus can have brighter screen, my biggest complaint with the phone.
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Probably better for Q &A, but AOSP and vanilla Google Android has always been overly aggressive about auto brightness and keeps it quite dim more often than not. It can, and is modified by OEMs and some custom roms.
I'm not sure my screen is as dim as what other owners claim theirs to be. I have it on auto-brightness and I don't have an issue with bright outdoors or indoor. I'm not sure I'd like it to be any brighter than it already is.
Maybe I'm not used to having my screen burn a hole in my cornea.
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Probably better for Q &A, but AOSP and vanilla Google Android has always been overly aggressive about auto brightness and keeps it quite dim more often than not. It can, and is modified by OEMs and some custom roms.
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I am talking about full manual brightness, auto brightness is never perfect on any phone but it actually isnt dim at all on my nexus S.
Dunno. I am not about to go run to Best Buy and compare, but full on brightness on my phone is uncomfortably bright in the dark and dimly lit areas, and very visible in direct sunlight.
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I'm not sure my screen is as dim as what other owners claim theirs to be. I have it on auto-brightness and I don't have an issue with bright outdoors or indoor. I'm not sure I'd like it to be any brighter than it already is.
Maybe I'm not used to having my screen burn a hole in my cornea.
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I tried the phone at a very brightly lit shop. Put the brightness to maximum manually and yet it was barely brighter than my nexus S at 50% brightness.
Brightness isnt a contest where every phone should try to beat others but it should be sufficient enough. I just think the nexus brightness isnt sufficient, it tops out at 200 nits when the minimum should be 300 nits for comfortable use in all environments.
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I tried the phone at a very brightly lit shop. Put the brightness to maximum manually and yet it was barely brighter than my nexus S at 50% brightness.
Brightness isnt a contest where every phone should try to beat others but it should be sufficient enough. I just think the nexus brightness isnt sufficient, it tops out at 200 nits when the minimum should be 300 nits for comfortable use in all environments.
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Maybe it is your phone then. I can tell you this device is easily as bright as my old Samsung Fascinate, which isn't much different from the Nexus S in screen tech.
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Maybe it is your phone then. I can tell you this device is easily as bright as my old Samsung Fascinate, which isn't much different from the Nexus S in screen tech.
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GSMArena and anandtech tests also show the galaxy nexus is the dimmest screen you will find in any of the high end android phones. A test done here on xda also showed the same thing.
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GSMArena and anandtech tests also show the galaxy nexus is the dimmest screen you will find in any of the high end android phones. A test done here on xda also showed the same thing.
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Do you want a discussion, or do you want to discount what I am saying just to argue?
Don't ask for an opinion if you are just looking for a way to discount it.
Your sites cannot vouch for my experience.
If your phone can only match 50% of what the Nexus S can in brightness, there is something wrong with it. That or you are exaggerating. This is in my opinion, but I think it is a very valid point.
The screen seems to be limited in brightness from the factory, as a matter of settings. Using AOKP Rom and increasing the color multipliers makes the screen much, much brighter, but i've read speculation that it could cause the screen to burn-in images much faster, which logically speaking, seems to make sense. Maybe it's limited by Samsung for that reason. This particular panel seems slightly more prone to image retention than the one on my Droid Charge, granted it isn't the same as burn-in, but maybe an indicator of inclination toward it...
The GSIII probably gets 2 mins of battery life. A screen that bright on 4 Cortex A9's and 4 mali 400's at 32nm....the battery is going to SUCK.
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Do you want a discussion, or do you want to discount what I am saying just to argue?
Don't ask for an opinion if you are just looking for a way to discount it.
Your sites cannot vouch for my experience.
If your phone can only match 50% of what the Nexus S can in brightness, there is something wrong with it. That or you are exaggerating. This is in my opinion, but I think it is a very valid point.
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I was not asking for opinions if the screen is dim or not but why is it. It wasnt my phone but a demo model at the shop. My experience showed me it was dim just like I had read in reviews.
I have an LCD nexus S, I am sure the AMOLED one at 50% wont be almost as bright as gnexus at 100. You know LCD's can get much brighter and the one on nexus S is particularly really bright.
I also compared galaxy nexus side by side with galaxy S2 and the difference was noticeable in brightness.
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The GSIII probably gets 2 mins of battery life. A screen that bright on 4 Cortex A9's and 4 mali 400's at 32nm....the battery is going to SUCK.
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The GS3 is only 300 nits bright, it isnt anything out of the ordinary. The one X has 500 nits screen.
And nobody is forced to keep the screen on high brightness, it's just an option to have a really bright screen and a pretty good one at that.
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I also compared galaxy nexus side by side with galaxy S2 and the difference was noticeable in brightness.
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I thought of it when you mentioned the GS2 - I had that phone for a week when it was released on Sprint, and any time the screen brightness was turned up and the screen was on for a few minutes, it would overheat and the OS forced it to low brightness until it cooled. At the time it was an issue quite a few people seemed to be having, so maybe it's limited on the Nexus for temp reasons too. As Smokeey had mentioned, battery life could be a factor as well.
Do you even OWN a GNex? I swear you're just here to troll the device.
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I have a nexus S currently. <--- Yesterday's date.
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Do you even OWN a GNex? I swear you're just here to troll the device.
Originally Posted by Gambler_3
I have a nexus S currently. <--- Yesterday's date.
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Why cant I post if I dont have the device? I am thinking about upgrade from nexus S and I just made some threads about the potential issues I discovered about the device.
As long as you can see the screen who cares how bright it is. Are you trying to light up a room with it? Also, keep your phone on full brightness and you will be highly risking screen burn in so I would not recommend keeping it on full anyway even if it is not as bright as other devices.
Why would anyone purchase a phone or not purchase a phone based on it being the brightest screen out there. I can understand if you couldn't see the screen, but really? And now with the ability to change the colors and gamma of the screen, it just looks great.
So if you get the Nexus and keep the screen turned all the way up because you needed to light up your house to save money on electricity, please don't start a thread complaining about burn in.
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As long as you can see the screen who cares how bright it is. Are you trying to light up a room with it? Also, keep your phone on full brightness and you will be highly risking screen burn in so I would not recommend keeping it on full anyway even if it is not as bright as other devices.
Why would anyone purchase a phone or not purchase a phone based on it being the brightest screen out there. I can understand if you couldn't see the screen, but really? And now with the ability to change the colors and gamma of the screen, it just looks great.
So if you get the Nexus and keep the screen turned all the way up because you needed to light up your house to save money on electricity, please don't start a thread complaining about burn in.
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And wtf? My eyes Hurt if I put full brightness.. And even if I try to read on direct sun i can do easy.. I use my phone on 25% brightness and thats enough
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As long as you can see the screen who cares how bright it is. Are you trying to light up a room with it? Also, keep your phone on full brightness and you will be highly risking screen burn in so I would not recommend keeping it on full anyway even if it is not as bright as other devices.
Why would anyone purchase a phone or not purchase a phone based on it being the brightest screen out there. I can understand if you couldn't see the screen, but really? And now with the ability to change the colors and gamma of the screen, it just looks great.
So if you get the Nexus and keep the screen turned all the way up because you needed to light up your house to save money on electricity, please don't start a thread complaining about burn in.
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hehe, i bought googles flagship for 450€ and i need to care how long is screen on and i cant have it on full brightness all the time becouse i "risking screen burn"?
Ah keep LCD phone on full brightness and deal with the terrible blacks. Keep an AMOLED phone on full brightness and deal with burn-in. A perfect world we do not live in.
On a serious note screen brightness matters most when going out in the sun obviously. It can never be too bright when you are out.
I've been researching this phone before buying it. I've read that its screen doesn't get as bright as other phones' screens. In a TMO store this week, I compared my Vibrant (at its usual daytime brightness, around 40%) side-by-side with the GSIII -- with the GSIII's brightness at max, auto-brightness turned off, "auto adjust screen tone" turned off, and browser brightness at max -- and the GSIII's browser was indeed not as bright as what I'm used to on the Vibrant, even at those maxed-out levels. (I'm most interested in the browser, since that's what I look at the most.)
To those who own this phone -- have you found that the screen does not seem to get bright enough for your taste, in actual use? Thanks.
Its bright enough for me..the international version has a mod that makes the screen brighter & more crisp plus better colors.. hopefully we the same treatment soon.
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Yes Sg3 is half as bright as vibrant at maximum setting. Initially it bothered me but once i completely switched to the new phone and no more compare them side by side i am happy. SG3 by itself is okay and very usable, so stop comparing them and you will be fine.
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I was concerned about this as well but after a couple weeks with the s3 its not that big of a deal. The brightness of the screen was never an issue when it came to using it.
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I've been researching this phone before buying it. I've read that its screen doesn't get as bright as other phones' screens. In a TMO store this week, I compared my Vibrant (at its usual daytime brightness, around 40%) side-by-side with the GSIII -- with the GSIII's brightness at max, auto-brightness turned off, "auto adjust screen tone" turned off, and browser brightness at max -- and the GSIII's browser was indeed not as bright as what I'm used to on the Vibrant, even at those maxed-out levels. (I'm most interested in the browser, since that's what I look at the most.)
To those who own this phone -- have you found that the screen does not seem to get bright enough for your taste, in actual use? Thanks.
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Make sure you have all power saving options off, and auto adjust screen tone off (menu>system settings>display)
Does anyone else experience eyestrain with devices that have the HD Super Amoled screen?
I notice after about 10 - 15 mins of use, I get dizzy and my eyes hurt like they are being crossed or something when using the galaxy s3 or galaxy note, my old galaxy s2 skyrocket doesn't bother me though....
I've tried to turn the brightness down all the way, using the device at different distance to no avail.
Any possible solutions to remedy this? or am I going to have to sell my new S3 like I did my galaxy note? :/
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I've actually noticed a decrease in eye strain coming from an LCD screen on my atrix. LCD screens are constantly flashing, and the screen on my galaxy s3 is super clear for me almost no eye strain. Its probably personal preference though.
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I've actually noticed a decrease in eye strain coming from an LCD screen on my atrix. LCD screens are constantly flashing, and the screen on my galaxy s3 is super clear for me almost no eye strain. Its probably personal preference though.
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I've actually experienced the opposite as my first android device was an atrix....
I think it may have something to do with the 1200 x 800 resolution on such a small screen because If I turn up the resolution on my PC HD monitor to something like 1600 x 1200 for example, my eyes start to hurt.
I was actually going to post a new great until I saw this. I came from retina displays and my eyes are sore after I look at the screen for over 10 minutes on my GS3. Kinda concerning!! Might have to switch back to an apple product. I was getting use to droid too. :-/
its because of the screen size/pixels. Your eyes still needs to be adjusted to the new screen lol... obv
Yes!
I got vertigo/migraines about a month after getting my S3. I had a number of medical tests to see what was causing it - but even after new glasses I've narrowed it down to the S3 display being too strong for my eyes. I'm going to sell mine and get a replacement with a duller screen.
Try this...
Try changing the Screen Mode to 'Natural' or 'Movie". Helped a bit.
I also immidiately noticed eye fatique after getting Galaxy s3, particularly in my right eye. It started only getting worse, and coincidently only when I was using Galaxy. Other lcd devices such as older 3gs never bothered me at all. Surpisingly majority of reviews call the display stunning quality, but its pretty dim, practically unusable outside and colors are unnaturally oversaturated, all of which didnt bother me that much as long as my eyes wouldnt hurt so much. I started reading more about specs in Super amoled technology, but nothing pointed out to potensial issues, than I googled galaxy s3 refresh rate, and the first video from the search result comparing s3 to the iphone, provided a major clue. The poor quality camera was picking up horrible flickering from galaxy, but iphone screen didnt flicker at all. It instantly brought me back to old CRT days, and I also remember getting dizzy from such displays running at low refresh rates of 60mhz. Back than bumping up refresh rate to 75mhz conciderably dicreased eye strain. I took the video to the store, sales person was suprised that I was returning such popular product, but its been a day since my exchange for another brand and eye strain is gone. The issue maybe overlooked as it affects low percentage of people, but if you have sensitive vision, than you'd be much better off with non hd amoled technology
Could it be the brightness?
I'm sure your not holding it against your nose while watchin you tube, but maybe its the overall brightness of the screen thats getting to you? I use a powersaver app that has a black screen filter that dims it out a good little bit, maybe something like that could help, or a matte finish screen protector...the anti glare ones I think.
Use the "Screen Filter" for use at nights.
Set brightness to 0, and enable filter. I set mine at 48.6% and 36.9% (created two widgets with these percentages) and use either as needed.
Set your brightness lower. It's the brightness of your screen. I have the same problem before turning down the screen
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Keep phone at safe distance from face. Try a dark theme or inverted apps, or both they will most likely reduce eyestrain as well as save battery.
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Seems ok to me with brightness anywhere from dimmest to 50%.
hmm, can't say I've experienced any strain.
The cm10 rom is extremely bright too, at half, I started getting headaches but on stock, I can state at near brightest all day.
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Hi all,
There are a lot of users who feel uncomfortable with AMOLED displays (not all of them, for example sgs2 is not affected). They can struggle with head ache and eye strain. You can google "galaxy s3 eye strain" for example or watch how AMOLED blinks through photo/video camera (there are tons of youtube videos). This effect apperars only when screen brightness is not at maximum level. The nature of that is the mechanism used for brightness control. Instead of forcing the pixels to glow at less brightness they force them to blink very fast. The faster pixel blinks - the brighter it seems to the user. The downside of this is that the whole screen blinks as an old CRT monitor which causes this negative effect.
I found an app which could help us to workaround this issue. I filed a feature request. So if you are interested you can add yourself to wathcher list and post a comment here - https://bitbucket.org/VitoCassisi/lux/issue/38/lux-auto-brightness-feature-request-for
This should not take a lot of time since you can authorise there with your google/facebook/twitter or other account.
Wow! I switched the screen to "natural", the problem with oversaturared, too rich colors was solved. I had to keep the brightness low so color pictures aren't too bright, but this made reading text on white backround unpleasant. Of course now I have to find new brightness levels (what brightness levels do you guys use for day and night?)
PS: Samsung has been doing similar tricks with the colors in their TVs. Some series 6 TVs made the picture look like it was from a heat sensor in dynsmic mode, and this was their default mode.
PPS: Mobile screens suck. LCDs have washed out blacks which strains the eyes, and AMOLEDs don't care about correct colors which makes you duzzy.
S3 screen flickers!
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I also immidiately noticed eye fatique after getting Galaxy s3, particularly in my right eye. It started only getting worse, and coincidently only when I was using Galaxy. Other lcd devices such as older 3gs never bothered me at all. Surpisingly majority of reviews call the display stunning quality, but its pretty dim, practically unusable outside and colors are unnaturally oversaturated, all of which didnt bother me that much as long as my eyes wouldnt hurt so much. I started reading more about specs in Super amoled technology, but nothing pointed out to potensial issues, than I googled galaxy s3 refresh rate, and the first video from the search result comparing s3 to the iphone, provided a major clue. The poor quality camera was picking up horrible flickering from galaxy, but iphone screen didnt flicker at all. It instantly brought me back to old CRT days, and I also remember getting dizzy from such displays running at low refresh rates of 60mhz. Back than bumping up refresh rate to 75mhz conciderably dicreased eye strain. I took the video to the store, sales person was suprised that I was returning such popular product, but its been a day since my exchange for another brand and eye strain is gone. The issue maybe overlooked as it affects low percentage of people, but if you have sensitive vision, than you'd be much better off with non hd amoled technology
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You are absolutely right. S3 screen flickers a lot. Try to move it quickly in front of your eyes, move your eyest when looking at it, or move your finger fast in front of the screen. I certainly do notice it.
What other phones have better displays? Sony? HTC?
I have a solution to resolve galaxy S3 scren flickering: set brightness to max in settings, install an app like "Screen Filter" (one with black-white rectangle) and decrease brightness there, in the app.
Flickering gone!
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You are absolutely right. S3 screen flickers a lot. Try to move it quickly in front of your eyes, move your eyest when looking at it, or move your finger fast in front of the screen. I certainly do notice it.
What other phones have better displays? Sony? HTC?
I have a solution to resolve galaxy S3 scren flickering: set brightness to max in settings, install an app like "Screen Filter" (one with black-white rectangle) and decrease brightness there, in the app.
Flickering gone!
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Most of phone LCD screens are not affected by flicker. Even some amoled displays too. For example old HTC Legend and galaxy S2.
Galaxy note 3, 4, Galaxy s4, 5 are also affected. I strongly recommend you not to buy any new samsung phones equipped with AMOLED screens.
Now with this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vito.lux software you can get rid of screen flickering issue. Automatic brightness adjust will also work.