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Now that we have perm root, titanium backup

guys, i cant stress this enough and i'm sure the old android heads here will agree with me. their are many many different android phones out there that have root. And although they're all different they all have a few apps in common. setcpu, rom manager, terminal, titanium back up.
I just want to touch base on Titanium backup.
It allows you to totally remove any app, including bloat ware. You can also suspend apps.
the freeze feature was handy because i enjoy sense but didn't like its apps and widgets hogging ram for no reason; considering i never used those sense apps. it netted in a nice battery and performance gain, at least.
one awesome thing about TB is the ability to back up your apps and reinstall all of them. the whole experience is as streamlined as batch market downloading and waaaaaay better than astro file managers one at a time annoying install.
Also, after a full wipe you will definitely want to run market dr so u can easily keep tabs on your updates.
in short, you wouldn't bang her/him without a condom right? well don't flash with out titanium backup!
I totally recommend the paid version!!!!!

So now we can uninstall completely without consequences web2go, Pico TTS, Quickoffice, Listen , Home screen tips, Google Skymaps, Google Translate, Goggles, Finance, wifi calling, etc ??
I was about to but i got a message that said i might have to reinstall the ROM if something craps out...

mauaus said:
So now we can uninstall completely without consequences web2go, Pico TTS, Quickoffice, Listen , Home screen tips, Google Skymaps, Google Translate, Goggles, Finance, wifi calling, etc ??
I was about to but i got a message that said i might have to reinstall the ROM if something craps out...
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you should be able too delete what u want. I wouldn't remove wifi calling though lol
I would wait for a clockwork recovery version to be available. This way u can make a backup before u delete all that

sheek360 said:
you should be able too delete what u want. I wouldn't remove wifi calling though lol
I would wait for a clockwork recovery version to be available. This way u can make a backup before u delete all that
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Im not with tmo it says invalid sim so its of no use to me. Is there a workaround?

mauaus said:
Im not with tmo it says invalid sim so its of no use to me. Is there a workaround?
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oh i see,
in regards to a backup? i think itll be best to be safe than sorry and wait till clockwork recovery is released.

is there a big difference between the free and paid version? what im asking is would i still be able to do back up and delete bloatware with the free version

The batch is MUCH better with the paid version, definitely well worth it

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The batch is MUCH better with the paid version, definitely well worth it
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I agree!!!!!!!!!

Just one thing: please don't forget that system apps (ie: apps that are part of your ROM) themselves can't be restored by TitaniumBackup for now. Only their data is backed up. So if somebody is not 100% sure about removing a system app, it's wise to try freezing it first -because that's easy to undo.

So how do we do the remove of unwanted apps
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**AMAZING APP** Autostarts (Still useful, let me know your thoughts)

After rooting our phones, there are several apps that still run (for instance AP and AccuWeather) that I never use.
Autostarts is a really great app.
It lets you prevent apps from opening on certain occurances.
For instance, certain apps open on SMS sent/receive or call receive/sent...
It's a great way to keep apps that you never use/need from starting.
I find that this app is still applicable compared to Juice Defender and SetCPU as these newer phones seem to handle that well.
Anyone else find the same?
Thanks for the feedback.

h20wakebum said:
After rooting our phones, there are several apps that still run (for instance AP and AccuWeather) that I never use.
Autostarts is a really great app.
It lets you prevent apps from opening on certain occurances.
For instance, certain apps open on SMS sent/receive or call receive/sent...
It's a great way to keep apps that you never use/need from starting.
I find that this app is still applicable compared to Juice Defender and SetCPU as these newer phones seem to handle that well.
Anyone else find the same?
Thanks for the feedback.
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Why not just get root explorer and delete them?

WhiteWidows said:
Why not just get root explorer and delete them?
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Try it... A lot of them are processes that cannot be deleted.
Besides...
It isn't about deleting apps.
It's about controlling when an app will start (or when it's triggered to start) based off actions.
Why do I need app x,y, z starting when i send a text message? Answer... I don't...
From the market:
Keep control over your phone: See what applications do behind your back.
Shows you what apps run on phone startup, and what other events trigger in the background. Root users can disable unwanted autostarts and speed up their phone boot.
Note: Root-Access *is* required to make changes. Otherwise, this application will be read-only.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.elsdoerfer.android.autostarts&hl=en

Titanium back up and just freeze them, but I did use ths app and it did make bit up time faster on my evo
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jhgti said:
Titanium back up and just freeze them, but I did use ths app and it did make bit up time faster on my evo
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Let me rephrase as I'm not making my point (sorry!!).
Google Maps will start at bootup... also when you change connectivity on your device.
I only want Maps open when I open it...
This app lets you prevent things from opening based off certain events (boot up, outgoing sms, incoming call, connectivity change, etc).
So freezing or deleting would remove the app that you might otherwise want.
Hope that makes sense.

Oh i see yes that is true some apps will come on as soon as connectivity changes, If find good settings post some screen shot and i will do the same

h20wakebum said:
After rooting our phones, there are several apps that still run (for instance AP and AccuWeather) that I never use.
Autostarts is a really great app.
It lets you prevent apps from opening on certain occurances.
For instance, certain apps open on SMS sent/receive or call receive/sent...
It's a great way to keep apps that you never use/need from starting.
I find that this app is still applicable compared to Juice Defender and SetCPU as these newer phones seem to handle that well.
Anyone else find the same?
Thanks for the feedback.
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This is a VERY handy app. thanks loads. this is definitely a function that android should incorporate stock like they did with task killer

I purchased this app back when I first got my evo and I am now using it with my ET. It is a very handy app to have.

Is using an app like Lookout even necessary?

How many people use apps like Lookout that scan your phone and supposedly offer ant-virus protection? Are they even necessary?

Don't think you'll find many that do. Other than corporate security reasons. All of is crackflashers don't stay on the same system long enough to warrant such a measure
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I like lookout for the scream feature....my wife loses her phone all the time and if I send the code through lookouts website the phone makes a loud siren sound even when on silent or vibrate. As far as the antivirus I really dont use it

I use lookout not for the scanning feature, but for the lost phone/lock/wipe features.You never know when you might need it.

Not absolutely, i use Eset Mobile on the N4, used it for many years allready om my pc`s. Better safe than sorry. And always look at the permissions you are about to give to an app when installing.

I used Lookout for 2 years on my HTC Desire then decided to uninstall it about 6 months ago. Can't say I've missed it.
I've not put it on my N4.

Common sense, and checking permissions is much more important than an anti virus imo. Google play store already has the bouncer that scans all the apps. Most of these malware apps that users install come from people not willing to cough up a few dollars for apps and getting said apps from third party sites, and torrents often repackaged with malware, and imo it looks good on them. Support the devs, don't be so cheap, and pay for apps (not directing this at anyone here, just saying). Use the Playstore, or somewhere reputable like XDA and check permissions, there's no reason a wallpaper would need access to your contact list and private info ect. Never used an antivirus on a phone and i likely never will.

i use lookout because i need to install apks from other sources..
i need to install apks from other sources because google play does not allow apks like adaway..
i buy apps from google play.. but ads? no way..

A little off topic here but Rom toolbox by JRummy has an adblocker, i wonder if Google will make him pull the app

I use avast... Dont know if it works, but being a windows user, i think im mentally ill, and insecure.
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carnage017 said:
I use avast... Dont know if it works, but being a windows user, i think im mentally ill, and insecure.
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hahahhaha, Awesome man, made my morning. :good:

ScumDroid said:
A little off topic here but Rom toolbox by JRummy has an adblocker, i wonder if Google will make him pull the app
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No, he's taking care of that before they pull it: https://twitter.com/jrummy16/status/312368614059692033

overhauling said:
No, he's taking care of that before they pull it: https://twitter.com/jrummy16/status/312368614059692033
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i guess i wont be updating rom toolbox anymore

ROM toolbox adblocker was never as good as AdAway anyway.
As far as apps like Lookout go, I'd never use an anti-bvirus scanenr etc. I use Cerberus in case I lose my phone so I can track/find or wipe it.

waste of RAM and space for antivirus apps... dont pirate apps and just download apps/games from the play store and you'll be fine.

[Q] Removing Google Apps & Default Apps

I'm just wondering if removing some of the default that come pre installed google apps like gmail, playbook, play games ...or even the default calendar apps is going have any impact on the perfomance on the whole phone system or even the battery life.
It's kinda irritating to see apps that's in the app drawer that i dont use....plan to uninstall them off with titanium backup

eijnaix said:
I'm just wondering if removing some of the default that come pre installed google apps like gmail, playbook, play games ...or even the default calendar apps is going have any impact on the perfomance on the whole phone system or even the battery life.
It's kinda irritating to see apps that's in the app drawer that i dont use....plan to uninstall them off with titanium backup
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if they aren't running and never run (in the foreground or background) they won't impact battery life. if they are running you could stop them or freeze them with titanium. the only other difference they make is cluttering up the app drawer and taking up space in the storage.

BlueC78 said:
if they aren't running and never run (in the foreground or background) they won't impact battery life. if they are running you could stop them or freeze them with titanium. the only other difference they make is cluttering up the app drawer and taking up space in the storage.
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thanks for the info, but removing them would be a better ...yeah ?

eijnaix said:
thanks for the info, but removing them would be a better ...yeah ?
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Removing them, if you never use them won't make any difference at all, you might as well use the "hide" feature in the app drawer.
Removing some LG apps might make a difference, as some of them run even if you never actually use them, but the google apps will only run if you actually open them.
On a side note, I never understand why people buy android phones (especially top of the line, flagship phones!) and then remove almost every trace of Google from them, isn't it kind of defeating the whole point?

Lennyuk said:
Removing them, if you never use them won't make any difference at all, you might as well use the "hide" feature in the app drawer.
Removing some LG apps might make a difference, as some of them run even if you never actually use them, but the google apps will only run if you actually open them.
On a side note, I never understand why people buy android phones (especially top of the line, flagship phones!) and then remove almost every trace of Google from them, isn't it kind of defeating the whole point?
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I uses dropbox over google drive......dont need google music or play bookstore... but uses youtube, map a lot though
I don't suppose android is just about google...isnt it ?

Lennyuk said:
On a side note, I never understand why people buy android phones (especially top of the line, flagship phones!) and then remove almost every trace of Google from them, isn't it kind of defeating the whole point?
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That's the beauty of Android over iOS: you don't HAVE to use Google apps if you don't want to. Being able to uninstall any app should come by default on all ROMs.
I remember the big trial Microsoft has lost when it tried to force all users to use Internet Explorer in Windows. In Europe, they had to add it optionally, and provide way to remove it / download alternative software. Something similar might force Google to do the same in the future (and Apple, LG, Samsung, HTC, etc.)

As far as removing unnecessary core system apps, I've always used Root App Delete with no issues. It does require root but works perfectly to remove any unnecessary apps you don't want. Once I receive my G3 I plan on immediately rooting the phone and using Root App Delete to get rid of any bloat I don't want.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=zsj.android.systemappremover&hl=en

eijnaix said:
I uses dropbox over google drive......dont need google music or play bookstore... but uses youtube, map a lot though
I don't suppose android is just about google...isnt it ?
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exactly where is my point too, dropbox, youtube and google maps, well gmail etc, but dont wanna use g music, newstand, search, google plus etc. there should be an option to delete them without root!

Great root app's

I have seen a couple root apps posted that are good to have, I have a few apps that I have installed on every phone that make life a whole lot easier for root functions. I have no ties to any of these developers, and I have not created any of these apps. I just want to share some apps that I find are useful.
SD Maid, by Darken: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.thedarken.sdm
This app is great, This is my favorite root app. The feature list is jam packed with things it can do to help you change your Rom to better suite what you want. It makes clearing out corpses of removed apps (system or not) clearing your cache, and it even allowes you to uninstall or freeze system apps, you can even delete an app but leave its data in case you want to reinstall it later without having to reset up everything. You can toggle auto starts, look for duplicate files, and check your system info. it is a free app, with a paid unlocker for the pro features, and it is totally worth it to unlock the pro features.
CSC Feature Expert for Samsung, by Wanam: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ma.wanam.cscexpert
This app is great for modifying hidden features that carries change within the stock Sammy rom such as removing that annoying wifi notification in the drop down menu (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6-edge/general/quick-guide-enabling-hidden-features-t3087506 for some great ideas)
SQLite Editor, by speed software: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.speedsoftware.sqleditor
This app allows you to edit the SQL for some great mods and tweaks like removing the brightness slider bar in the drop down menu (http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-galaxy-s6/general/tweak-remove-brightness-slider-t3088329)
GSam Battery Monitor, by Gsam Labs: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gsamlabs.bbm
This app has a companion app for root users that makes it a system app with all the permissions needed to keep a close eye on battery usage. Tells you how long your average usage is for each app and the longer you have it installed the better it gets at telling you what is going on.
ROM Toolbox, by JRummy:https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jrummy.liberty.toolbox
This app is a combination of like 8 apps that JRummy has created rolled into one easy to use package, for about 80% less than buying them separately. Most of the features of this app are not very useful for our phones, I think it is more leaning towards CM based ROMS but it still has a few features that we can use like a great file explorer, a easy to use app manager, a build.prop editor, task manager, Terminal emulator, and a DNS shanger.
Thats my list of must have root apps, what are some root apps you guys are using? I am sure there is an app out there I have not seen that would end up on my list, so reply with your favorite apps for root! :highfive:

greenify
titanium backup
flashfire
better battery stats
adaway
just to name a few...
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elliwigy said:
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greenify, by Oasis Feng:https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oasisfeng.greenify
Great for shutting down apps that like to run in the background. Great thing for the S6 is you can set the home button to greenify and lock the screen by holding the home button for 2 seconds.
titanium backup, by Titanium Track:https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup
I personally dont like titanium back up. and SD Maid does everything Titanium back up does and more all in one app for less money.
flashfire, by Chainfire: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.flash
This is a new app for me, I have started using it for flashing on my S6 Edge, but never used it before that. It is a great app, and a necessity for us s6 users with locked bootloaders.
better battery stats, by Sven Knipsel: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.asksven.betterbatterystats
No free or trial version so I have never tried the app. It looks like a useful app, but no better than the Gsam, and gsam is free.
adaway, by sufficientlysecure: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=95916177934553157
Adaway is a necessity for all root users! it does what it says and makes the ads go away. I didnt include it in my origional post because I was going to stick with Play store apps but it is more than worth of the list.
To add another useful app, is another app store, fdroid. https://f-droid.org/
Fdroid offers some apps that the play store wont allow such as adawy. I have never had or heard of any malware issues using Fdroid, but I dont see alot of people talking about it around here.

justda said:
greenify, by Oasis Feng:https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oasisfeng.greenify
Great for shutting down apps that like to run in the background. Great thing for the S6 is you can set the home button to greenify and lock the screen by holding the home button for 2 seconds.
titanium backup, by Titanium Track:https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup
I personally dont like titanium back up. and SD Maid does everything Titanium back up does and more all in one app for less money.
flashfire, by Chainfire: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.flash
This is a new app for me, I have started using it for flashing on my S6 Edge, but never used it before that. It is a great app, and a necessity for us s6 users with locked bootloaders.
better battery stats, by Sven Knipsel: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.asksven.betterbatterystats
No free or trial version so I have never tried the app. It looks like a useful app, but no better than the Gsam, and gsam is free.
adaway, by sufficientlysecure: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=95916177934553157
Adaway is a necessity for all root users! it does what it says and makes the ads go away. I didnt include it in my origional post because I was going to stick with Play store apps but it is more than worth of the list.
To add another useful app, is another app store, fdroid. https://f-droid.org/
Fdroid offers some apps that the play store wont allow such as adawy. I have never had or heard of any malware issues using Fdroid, but I dont see alot of people talking about it around here.
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better batt stats has a free xda version
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