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What are you ppl paying per month for your Inc?

I ask because a lot of the promised discounts aren't materializing for me, so I might not be keeping this phone after all.
RIght now I pay $30 for a SERO plan on sprint. 500 minutes, unlimited text, unlimited data
The best I came up with on VZW was $40 for 450 minutes, $10 for 500 texts a months, and $30 for unlimited data: That's $80 a month, for less minutes and texts.
When I was asking about work discounts, the WZA people said it was 20% off evrything, which then became 19% everthing, then I found out that required a contract, the non contract discount was 17% and only on the voice plan, not the text or data plan. the $10 one bill disocunt required singing a new 2 year contract with FIOS with a $315 ETf, which I'm not signing, I am so sick of being locked into service contracts, I'm done with those things.
So with my big discount, my $80 bill turns into a $73.20 bill. Wheee.
Yes, the Incredible is a great device, but more than doubling my cell phone charges is a tough pill to swallow. Whats everyone else out there paying?

Well I too got tired of paying out the ass.. I took my ding and went to metropcs ( I know that's not an option for many) but 40 bucks a month rocks for unlimited everything. Ya it sucks using the slow 1x speed for data. But it works fine for emails and Facebook. Etc. I don't stream music or movies when I'm not home so it works for me.
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I am paying $88 a month
$40 for my half or a 700 shared minute Talk plan (again, the smallest as I do mostly in-network which is unlimited)
$30/month unlimited data
$10/month for 500 text mesasges (got the smallest as I just needed texting period, almost all of mine are in verizon network and therefore unlimited)
$8/month for Assurion insurance
I am locked in on this until July 2012 at which point I will be evaluating if I want to stay with Verizon or switch to sprint (ATT is out as their data plan disgusts me)

My wife tells me were paying 180 a month. For what I have no idea. Apparently I shouldn't of asked. What the hell Verizon. What the hell me why aren't I paying attention to our bills.
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My wife and I both have data plans and we are on my parents' plan to save money. We all split 1400 anytime minutes. We have have the $5/mo texting (gotta love GTalk), and unlimited data and it usually comes out to $120/mo for the 2 of us (in total). Too much, IMO, but I dont know what else to do. Dropping the minutes doesnt change the price THAT much.

Added to my parents plan after my ex shut off my sprint phone, pay $50 a month, love it!
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RyanTX said:
My wife and I both have data plans and we are on my parents' plan to save money. We all split 1400 anytime minutes. We have have the $5/mo texting (gotta love GTalk), and unlimited data and it usually comes out to $120/mo for the 2 of us (in total). Too much, IMO, but I dont know what else to do. Dropping the minutes doesnt change the price THAT much.
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Reason many pay out the ass for verizon is because they have good coverage and data speeds. No other carrier in my area has solid coverage, it's all spotty.
I seriously have not been in any place without a signal unless it was underground or inside a meat locker, so for now I'll swallow the big bill for what I'm getting. Hopefully other carriers will eventually widen their network range out so people like me can have more of a choice.
I pay ~70$ with corporate discount.

You guys got it good. I pay 200+ a month for 4 phones. 2 on unlimited android (25$ each)1 with 200mb(10) family txt (10) 750m shared (59) then 2 phones with insurance (7each) yep.. Tmobile isnt so vad with the bill they cut my android unlimited to 25 each instead of 30. But I'm getting sick of it going to make the fam pay soon (evil laugh)
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125 a month. 900 minutes, unlimited data, 500 texts. Bout to drop my texting plan which will drop me 10 bucks. Not much but I'll take it. Google Voice ftw.

Im on an old allltel plan, 1200 sharrd, unlimited text n mms, data for the 2 phones cost $20 together and is unlimited. My bill is $180 a month for both smattphones. Is a little high, but as im sitting in the can typing this in the middle of nowhere, ks, i realize my coverage is superb.
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POQbum said:
Reason many pay out the ass for verizon is because they have good coverage and data speeds. No other carrier in my area has solid coverage, it's all spotty.
I seriously have not been in any place without a signal unless it was underground or inside a meat locker, so for now I'll swallow the big bill for what I'm getting. Hopefully other carriers will eventually widen their network range out so people like me can have more of a choice.
I pay ~70$ with corporate discount.
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Funny, I get worse coveragr than I do with sprint, which I would think is impossible since they both roam with each other, right?
I took my ding and went to metropcs ( I know that's not an option for many)
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How'd you get them to activate a non MPCS phone? I wish phones weren;t carrier branded so I could use my Dinc on Sprint.

I have the lowest smartphone plan on Verizon, 450 minutes, unlimited data and 500 texts for $79 plus tax which comes out to $81 per month. I came from Sprint and the cheapest smartphone plan they had ran $69 per month plus tax. The $10 difference in plans being Sprint includes texts and Verizon doesn't. The reasons I switched from Sprint were; one terrible service and, two they lacked a good choice in phones. The SERO plan you are talking about is not compatible with the new smartphones and you will have to upgrade to the $69 plan and sign a two year contract to get it.

Me and my wife have a plan through my work (17% discount). our total is $130.50/month for 700minutes, my phone has unlimted (30$/month) my wifes has 150MB, and my wife added 200 texting for $5 but I use google voice since I have unlimeted data.
all in all not a bad price. as mentioned it has to do with the service. On AT&T I never got a signal at my families cottage, with verizon I do (Not sure if that was a good call since my wife can not get a hold of me on the guys weekends hehehe )
SoBBie

It is good to see that what I am paying is somewhat common on verizon and I am not missing some considerable discount haha

Also, with my circle and my 1200 min plan, my wife and i use about 5000 to 6500 minutes a month and never go over, thats a good plan
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Paying around 60$ /month with VZW. I got unlimited calling/data/texting though.

emkorial said:
Funny, I get worse coveragr than I do with sprint, which I would think is impossible since they both roam with each other, right?
How'd you get them to activate a non MPCS phone? I wish phones weren;t carrier branded so I could use my Dinc on Sprint.
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You have to get the esn added to metro. then have it flashed.. .. I saved my apn's for data. so when i flash a new rom. I can restore them. and have working data again.. again. if you can put up with 1x speeds. and have metro coverage. then the price cant be beat...

kzoodroid said:
I have the lowest smartphone plan on Verizon, 450 minutes, unlimited data and 500 texts for $79 plus tax which comes out to $81 per month. I came from Sprint and the cheapest smartphone plan they had ran $69 per month plus tax. The $10 difference in plans being Sprint includes texts and Verizon doesn't. The reasons I switched from Sprint were; one terrible service and, two they lacked a good choice in phones. The SERO plan you are talking about is not compatible with the new smartphones and you will have to upgrade to the $69 plan and sign a two year contract to get it.
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You can upgrade to SERO premium and get a new phone for $50 a month. I still have an ancient smartphone so I still get the $30 a month plan.
I just found out that with no contract I get no discounts at all, so I just cancelled with Verizon. I'll just play with my Inc over wifi I guess.
I think I'm just going to buy a TP2 on Sprint, it's the last smartphone they had that you could get that still works with the $30 SERO plan. The Inc is an awesome device, I love it, but I don't use my phone nearly enough to justify spending an extra $50 a month on it, that's crazy.

Prepaid is cheap!
I am on a prepaid plan that costs $27.70 per month, with no taxes, which can range from 15-20% on top of the post-paid rates. It is on the Verizon network with Verizon voicemail and 3G data, but I purchase it through a virtual network operator that buys Verizon network capacity at a discount and provides their own customer service. The company is PagePlus cellular. In turn, PagePlus cellular has dealers that are authorized to sell their plans, and the one I use is KittyWireless.com. KittyWireless offered a deal where I paid (one-time) $50 and now I get a discount on my monthly rate for life. PagePlus cellular charges $29.95 for the plan I described, and with my KittyWireless discount, I pay $27.70 per month.
I have 1200 voice minutes, 2000 text messages, and 100 MB of data per month, and I'm set up on an autopay plan that charges my credit card each month.
This plan works great if you have wifi at home and at work, and don't do a lot of music & video streaming, and you are smart about updating apps, etc. I just use email, Google navigation, and some light web browsing and come in well below the 100 MB. I also have three additional family members on the same plan, and we are all very satisfied (three of us use HTC Droid Incredibles, two rooted). There are no family plans or sharing of minutes, we each have the $27.70 plan.
The downside is that you have to provide your own device (buy on eBay, etc) and they only provide assistance if you buy a device through them, and they don't have Droid Incredibles, so you are completely on your own if you have any technical issues. Also, some of the Verizon "services" are not available, such as visual voicemail, and some other stuff that I consider as junk anyway.
Also, PagePlus cellular does not have the same level of customer service as Verizon. Expect to be on hold for 20 minutes before you get to talk to anyone. This is not for people that need hand-holding, but seems like it would be appropriate for a lot of people in the XDAdev community who are willing do research on forums, etc to solve any issues.

Hmmm, I'm paying $84.28 give or take a few cents from month to month.
Verizon Wireless
Nationwide Talk & Text 450 (unlimited text/picture messages) --- $59.99
Email & Web for SMARTPHONE --- $29.99
TEC Advanced Devices - Asurion --- $7.99
Taxes --
Then a nice 22% discount from company I work with

Verizon vs T Mobile plan

My current T mobile plan is: Unlimited Minutes, Unlimited Text, and Unlimited Data (2GB of 4g, then throttled) for $79.99/month, plus a discount, so I pay $78 every month.
Now I never looked at Verizon plans because I have always heard they were so much more expensive.. so tonight I decide to look into it.. and I don't know If I am looking at them wrong or what..
But I see a plan.. SHARE EVERYTHING UNL TALK & TEXT 4GB $70 0612
Which I would read as Unlimited Minutes, Unlimited Text, and 4GB of LTE/4G Data for $70???
Is this correct or what? If it is that means I can get more with Verizon for less than T-Mobile? OR am I not seeing some extra fees and what not?
and BTW, with the 2GB on T mobile, I never go over, the most I used was about 1.8GB a month.. so I don't need unlimited data.

I just made a plan through their mobile website and it looks like they charge an extra $40 per smartphone on top of the plan price. The total for a 4Gb plan would be $110.
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Their "share everything" plans are a great concept, but you probably overlooked the device fee ($40 per smartphone).
They charge a fixed fee for each device that ties into it, and then all devices share all data/voice/text allotments and you simply purchase enough for your combined usage.
It's a great concept for families where everyone uses just a little more than one tier gives them and so instead of all of them having to pay for the next higher tier, they can aggregate and their average ends up with a cheaper combined tier. As an example, if they have a tier at 500MB and everyone uses 600-700MB then they might all have to individually upgrade to the 2GB plan. But, if they combine then they can get away with a single 2GB amongst 3 family members.
One of the big benefits for individual users is that you can share data between your smartphone and your tablet and the tablet only had a $10 fee to buy in. Typically you access things on your tablet or your smartphone, so the usage on both is usually not much higher than the usage on a single plan with one device. Essentially, you could probably get a tablet and add it to your plan for only $10 a month total.
But, at $40 per smartphone I'm not sure how much of a boon it is for families compared to the "add a tablet for $10/month" scenario.

Wow! That's a joke! 40$ a month just because you're using one of their devices, that doesn't even make sense.
So after all the mobile is cheaper
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Yea the plans are REALLY deceptive. I think it's $30 per dumbphone and $40 per smart ON TOP of the $70 for the plan. So even when you share with a flip it's almost like adding a whole nother plan. Tmo is cool because you can add lines and NOT give them data/texting.

Yes, Verizon works well if you have three phones and not much data, ie two people is $75 per person shared 4GB. But for three smartphones it would be $64 for 4GB shared. t-mo is cheaper, but omg you better like edge and gprs even.

joederp said:
Yes, Verizon works well if you have three phones and not much data, ie two people is $75 per person shared 4GB. But for three smartphones it would be $64 for 4GB shared. t-mo is cheaper, but omg you better like edge and gprs even.
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Dunno what you're smoking, I set up a wifi hotspot with my S3 and tether my Nexus 7 to it all the time, no problems streaming hd from Netflix.
Actually, I guess it's all depending on your market. I never have any issues anywhere around the Minneapolis area.

joederp said:
Yes, Verizon works well if you have three phones and not much data, ie two people is $75 per person shared 4GB. But for three smartphones it would be $64 for 4GB shared. t-mo is cheaper, but omg you better like edge and gprs even.
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Uhhh.. grandfathered with data for one phone 2GB and two flips was $140, shared plan was $170. I went with tmo for $95.
Ohh you said PER PERSON. The difference is huge still.

Yeah I'll just stay away from them. To get the same plan with Verizon that I have with the mobile it would be 100$ plus tax... And right now I pay 78.
When I renew my contract I'll most likely get the 500mins (I checked my bills for the last three months and I never go over) unlimited text and unlimited 4G for 79.99$.
Orrr I might switch to simple mobile... Unlimited everything 50$ a month and they use the t mobile towers. I've had them before and had no problems.
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Verizon is $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. Sprint is probably cheaper than Tmobile for the most part + unlimited, but it's very deceptive advertising as their LTE is hardly rolled out anywhere. Their 3G is almost like Dialup too. Just keep Tmobile.

Aria807 said:
Verizon is $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. Sprint is probably cheaper than Tmobile for the most part + unlimited, but it's very deceptive advertising as their LTE is hardly rolled out anywhere. Their 3G is almost like Dialup too. Just keep Tmobile.
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Yeah I've heard plenty bad things about sprint data. Yep ill most likely stick with t mobile or switch to their son simple mobile lol
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Crisisx1 said:
Yeah I've heard plenty bad things about sprint data. Yep ill most likely stick with t mobile or switch to their son simple mobile lol
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I've used Sprint for years and their data is PAINFULLY slow. Even "4g" was giving me 1ish Mbps. I switched to VZW and the service is awesome but the cost is really bothering me. I'm currently on VZW paying $75.00 a month for 4gigs of data 450min and 1000 text messages. Every month I go over in texts and it pushes me to $80ish
I just ordered a S2 from Tmo and I'm going to check out the $30.00 prepaid for a couple of weeks to see how well the service compares to VZW. Upon telling my boss this he laughed and told me Tmo sucks in our area and he just switched to VZW from Tmo so I might be stuck on VZW for the forseable future.

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I've used Sprint for years and their data is PAINFULLY slow. Even "4g" was giving me 1ish Mbps. I switched to VZW and the service is awesome but the cost is really bothering me. I'm currently on VZW paying $75.00 a month for 4gigs of data 450min and 1000 text messages. Every month I go over in texts and it pushes me to $80ish
I just ordered a S2 from Tmo and I'm going to check out the $30.00 prepaid for a couple of weeks to see how well the service compares to VZW. Upon telling my boss this he laughed and told me Tmo sucks in our area and he just switched to VZW from Tmo so I might be stuck on VZW for the forseable future.
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I would switch to Verizon but they are just too expensive. 2gb data unlimited mins and text=100$ plus tax.
On tmobile I get that for 78$. And don't have to worry about over fees because t mobile just throttles you. The highest speed test I got was 30mb. But average is 10mb and about 2.5 up
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If you want cheap T-Mobile is the way to go. The 2 line unlimited plan for $99 cant be beat, unless you go prepaid. But you probably wouldn't be in the s3 forums if you were wanting prepaid.

If you haven't, try to see if you can get any work discounts. It would probably help a bit on costs.

Lol don't know why people make such a big stink over Verizon. I had them for the last 8-9 years and I switched to Tmobile. It was easier than expected honestly. Sure their network isn't as good as Verizon but it's not so distinctly different where if you put the same phone and did a Web browsing test that someone would tell a difference. If I am downloading a huge rom then it's noticeable but for forum surfing and websites (don't do much more than that at work since... Well I'm working lol and I have wifi at home) its just fine.
It's funny because if you knew me then you would know this doesn't sound like me because I am a spec freak... Also it isn't the cost that bothers me. I work 60 hours a week and I can afford Verizon its just the lack of value. Maybe it's because Verizon doesn't give a **** about its customers and they don't try to hide it. Maybe it's because I do work so many damn hours and if I don't see value in my spending I won't buy it. Idk. Either way I'm thrilled with Tmobile and have no reason to go back. Also, I'm in a sort of crappy Tmobile area where everywhere around me gets 5-25mbs and I'm in the one patch that gets less than 2 lol
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For 3 lines with ins.:
Sprint had me at $222 (15% off)
Verizon would have been $228 (25% off data)
Tmobile has me at $180 (15% off)
The speeds are way better than what I had on Sprint even with the EvoLTE and the download speeds are on par with every Verizon phone I have come across. Verizon's upload speeds are faster (like 5 to 2)
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AB33 said:
For 3 lines with ins.:
Sprint had me at $222 (15% off)
Verizon would have been $228 (25% off data)
Tmobile has me at $180 (15% off)
Tbe speeds are way better that what I had on Sprint even the EvoLTE and the download speeds are on par with every Verizon phone I come accross. Verizon's upload speeds are faster (like 5 to 2)
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Just left sprint for t-mobile, so far so good, I live in Northern New jersey work in queens, haven't had any signal issues yet, strong signal indoors. Defintely a better data experience. I can actuality get a signal and use at my job in LIC. Nice to have functional service. Still have to test in philly where I go a lot, but for right now sprint < tmobile.

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Just left sprint for t-mobile, so far so good, I live in Northern New jersey work in queens, haven't had any signal issues yet, strong signal indoors. Defintely a better data experience. I can actuality get a signal and use at my job in LIC. Nice to have functional service. Still have to test in philly where I go a lot, but for right now sprint < tmobile.
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Yeah I'm with sprint now. I switched from tmobile from being customer for 6 years. And I gotta say worst mistake!! I'm so upset with the speeds. I mean I cant even get Pandora to work.
Needless to say I will be turning this pretty gs3 back to best buy and cancel my sprint. And reactivate my T-Mobile account.
Can't believe I shot my self in the foot like that.
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For some who don't know T-Mobile is undergoing a huge network upgrade so expect some big changes soon with service its only getting better from here guys jump on the Tmo express

[Q] Is this the truth about T-mobile prepaid service?

I will start by saying I am a very happy Samsung Galaxy S III owner and an extremely un-happy Sprint customer (due to the lack of 4G and my paying for 4G for the past 3 years). I have started looking at terminating my contract with Sprint and doing a prepaid service like StraightTalk, that is until I recently read on Android Central that T-Mobile now has unlimited prepaid service. I spent some time tonight at a T-mobile store and the sales rep told me some things I would like to run past you fine people who may no more than this guy (I know he works for them, but they will also say anything to get you to buy what they want you to buy... er at least Sprint does). So here are the things he told me that I would like your input on.
1) The highest prepaid plan is unlimited talk, text and data at $70/month. However, your HSPA+ data ends after 5GB of data and beyond that amount, your data speeds will be throttled to "go so slow that web pages will time-out before they load, yes I am serious" (I am quoting the sales rep here)
2) "T-mobile has separate towers that are specific for pre-paid customers. They are fewer and more far between then our contract towers and as such, your coverage area is decreased and the data speeds you can achieve on HSPA+ (up to 5GB) is slower. You cannot access the towers that our contracted customers use, these towers cover more area and with greater bandwidth"
3) "With pre-paid you cannot roam. Period." He told me that with contract service you have truly, un-throttled, uncapped data on any T-mobile tower and truly unlimited roaming (voice, text and data) on any AT&T tower.​
All in all, the sales rep was quite intent on stating how terrible and useless the prepaid service is, and that I can have all the amazing, truly unlimited, un-throttled, roam-anywhere, zoom-bang-wow service at the exact same cost of a contract plan ($70/month - since I am bringing my own device - I have an unlocked GSII Skyrocket). I just don't know if this guy is lying to me about some of these things in order to make me go contract or if he really is telling all truth here. After all, it is better for T-Mobile if I guarantee I pay them the cost of service for 2 years (or a contract cancellation fee) as opposed to having me on a string for only 1 month at which time I can leave at no cost.
I believe the no roaming part (what I mean to say, is that I can see how this can and would be possible) but I really cannot see how they have separate towers for the pre-paid and contract customers as they all operate on the same GSM frequencies (to my knowledge at least). This is only my idle speculation of course, I am hoping some of you can confirm/dispel some if not all of these statements I heard today and help me make an informed decision on where I go next with my service provider.
As a final note, I should explain to you that the truly unlimited and un-throttled data is important to me as I stream almost all my content and upload (via DropBox) a high volume of photos, all in addition to the usual stuff that eats up data (lots of email, video chatting, VoIP, MMS, etc). I currently use between 6-8GB of Sprint data per month. That is saying something considering how awfully slow their data is in my area (Denver, CO). So I anticipate needing even more than that once I am on a network with greater speeds as I naturally will be using it even more.
Thanks for all your input!

I do not believe anything I just read was correct..lol not to you, but to the rep.. Starting on January 9 their $70 unlimited plan was upped from 5gb to truly unlimited uncapped data.. Also I am not positive on the roaming as I do not leave.. And as far as them having their own towers go that is a lie because when a phone gets blacklisted because you haven't paid you bill you can't just put it on prepaid.. You have to unlock the phone and go on another carrier.
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I am on the $30/mo plan available from walmart. It includes unlimited text and data (4g up to 5gb) and 100 minutes. I believe it is by far the best deal going for cell service. At $.10 a minute if you go over it's still the best deal going if you use under ~600 minutes a month on average.
The $70 plan you are talking about is actually unlimited 4G AFAIK.

Why not just buy a month or so of pre-paid, try it out - see how it goes - and if you think the contract service would work better for you, switch - there's no penalty for switching from pre-paid to contract, so why not ?
You're throttled to 50kb/s after your limit. Yes, it's slow, but pages not loading before they time out ? Maybe if you're loading super-heavy pages, but the guest WIFI at my school is throttled to the same and it's quite easy to browse the web. No, you're not going to be streaming video or anything on 50kb/s, but it's not the end of the world, either.
It looks like the $70/mo pre-paid doesn't have a data limit. If they're being sneaky and hiding it, I don't know - read the contract, but the ones where throttling does happen are worded differently.
I'm on pre-paid T-Mobile and never had coverage issues. Pretty sure there is some roaming. No, you're not going to get data-roaming, but that's kind of a given for any pre-paid service.

Don't forget. $70 plus taxes (~$10~) plus activation fee ($35 and only if done in-store). Your first month bill will skyrocket (I chose the value plan with two lines + down payment ($170/mo) when I extended my service with T-Mobile; the bill for the first month came to a close total of $300). Afterwards you'll pay a flat rate of ~$80~(taxes).
What the rep said were both true and false. The Value Plan (unlimited text + call + data with no throttle) is the better plan of the two options provided to you if you're looking for long-term but the only difference between the two is there will be a data throttle (5GB) for the Prepaid and unlimited data with no data for The Value Plan but only acquirable with a 2 year contract.
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Thanks for everyone's input. I took the plunge and went with T-Mobile prepaid $70/month. I did a lot of reading and went back to a different store. Turns out that as of 1/9/13 the $70/month prepaid is unlimited data and no throttle. Your sim gets service from the exact same towers as a contracted T Mobile customer. There also was not an activation fee. I had an approx. $6 sim start fee and then taxes. After everything it was $81.56 out the door. I do also get roaming on AT&T but I have yet to use it. I plan on using it for the rest of the month that I paid for before making any final decisions. This is about $25/month cheaper than what I am paying for sprint service right now AND I have HSPA+ data. The speeds are nothing to brag about at all but SOOO much faster than sprints data. Glad I researched this further before looking elsewhere.

Pre-paid is only charged state sales tax - which is usually much less than the taxes imposed on the contract plans. They still pay the taxes - you're just not paying for them on top of your bill.
My taxes on my $40 Sprint bill were like, $6. I pay only $1-something in state sales tax on the $30 refills. Not a huge difference but would add up quite a bit if the bills were higher.
$70/unlimited is a great deal if you have good coverage in your area (we have 4G all over the city here).
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There are Classic, Value, and Prepaid options.
Classic - You get a subsidised phone + a 2yr contract.
Value - You take the same phone subsidy that classic has but you apply it to your montly bill. As such you have the option to buy a phone at full price or bring your own. You still have the 2 yr contract.
Prepaid - No Contract.
Classic and Value are exactly the same.
The prepaid plan does have an unlimited data package, but the difference between the other packages is that prepaid customers DO NOT get ROAMING.
Over here in chicago, tmobile is partnered with ATT. If i go to an area that does not have tmobile service, I am allowed to use ATT towers. With prepaid you will simply have no service in this area.
(Note that roaming includes VOICE+TEXT but not high speed DATA. This means you will only get 1G or EDGE while roaming)
I am not sure about getting access to less tmobile towers, but less towers sounds like bull****. Keep in mind you still DO NOT get access to ROAMING towers. The rep might of misunderstood the tower explanation when she was in training but who knows, it might be true. I doubt it.
I do not work for Tmboile. Hope I explained everything.

I have a galaxy s4 sgh-m919 t-mobile variant I bought without a contract.
I purchased tmobile prepaid unlimted 70 a month plan.
While I am in the city I get 4g data, ive never seen the LTE badge appear.
My tmobile account says I have an incompatiable data plan for my device.
My actual home is about 13 miles outside town and I get extremely bad signal issues. My phone will connect to at&t and verizon towers but I do not get a data connection at all, sms is hit or miss, phone calls seem to work okay most of the time.
I am very upset with my tmobile service and plan to try net10 prepaid unlimited 4g, for 50 a month. Net10 uses at&t towers so I should get much better service at my home.
I wish there was a way to force data roaming.
I'm paying 70 a month, I should at least get 3g wherever I go.
I am open to suggestion, thanks; just wanted to share my tmobile opinion.
Slower test is tmobile prepaid 4g
faster is net10 at&t 4g

Late to the zombie thread. Our experience as a Tmobile customer, is you'll roam most likely onto ATT. Our 2nd home is in Montana, where Tmo doesn't exist. First, your data is throttled on roam from the get go, to what's tantamount to HSPA. After you use a few hundred megs (turning on your plan) bam, throttle down to G2. It's not a pretty picture ... but for some, it beats paying ATT's higher monthly fee.

T-Mobile REQ Pref Android Web

So I am in a great grandfathered plan (myfaves 800 family) and I now wanted to add unlimited $30 to my line. They will not put the real unlimited plan on my line because it is only for new rate plans. So they put me on the Preferred android web plan that is throttled at 5gb. They claim that there is no option to put me on a full unlimited plan because I am in a grandfathered plan that no longer exists.
I have heard about people with this data plan not getting throttled, is this true?
Also, is there a way to get a truly unlimited data plan even though I am in a grandfathered myFaves plan?
Thanks friends.... this has been pissing me off now for a while as I wanted the $30 real unlimited (knowing I can still tether)

I've been throttled once, on my current 2 gig plan. They do it.
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The $20 android preferred plan definitely gets throttled. I'm on it.

Cricket, not ATT, TMOBILE, VERIZON, SPRINT, but even a less reputable carrier like Cricket, for years now have offered better services(edge, 3G, 4G, and even their version of 4G LTE) that force "grandfathered customers" into switching up their entire service rates or miss out on the upgrade... long story short...
Years ago, my sister had a friend buy her a tmobile nokia that had clear plated cases with internal lights that flashed on que and was willing to pay her first few months service... therefore my sister gave her old $20/mo cricket phone to my mom and paid her bill as my mom was old school and didnt care about cell phones
Fast forward a better part of a decade (to about 2008 and my mom (being grand fathered into her 20/mo payment had switched phones tons of time without ever increasing her bill)
Fast forward to 2008 and I was really intrigued by a cricket preAndroid phone and my mom offered to add me to her service (cricket had a promotion, keep your rate while adding additional services like caller ID, call waiting, etc. with any new Family plan) so we bit and no hitch). Even down the road we were able to add my step-dad and my brother to the family plan all at no additional monthly charge ($20 per line)
Here is where, I think, your problem lies...
Finally, fast forward to 2011, cricket came out with the Huawei Ascend and I bit (as I needed a cheap replacement).. we went in and upgraded my phone (I bought the phone outright but was forced into the new "Android" plan at $45/mo) and that then forced the "Grand Father Reset" as my mom, stepdad and brothers plans were all increased to $35/mo for basicaly the same service (actually even less as the 35/mo plan didnt include some of the original 20/mo nationwide min/txt freebies)...
Essentially I had a weak-ass android (crickets very first and nothing compared to market value at the time like the EVO) while also, very inefficiently, increasing 4 lines of service from 80/mo, up to 150/mo for the same 4 lines...
At the end of that same year of increase, cricket came out with a ZTE Score for cheap and my Mom, brother, and stepdad all purchased resulting in all 4 lines increasing the family plan to 45/mo each and at that rate, 200/mo total, I effectively defected to TMO.... lol
Smart decision on my part but with your 30 dollar plan I would suggest, or atleast advise, you anticipate rate increases to better service packages!!
Believe me, if cricket found a way, so has TMO, ATT, Verizon, etc
73/mo after I pay off the GN2 with hopes for a moderately priced LTE in the future... im so stoked... crickets LTE is a joke compared to TMO AWS... just saying
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tmobile is still telling me that there is no way to get the unlimited without throttle plan because I have an older myfaves plan at it will not allow them to add real unlimited.

Thats my point, even crick has been pushing the cheaper rate customers onto more expensive plans to experience an upgraded service plan... just something that we all need to get used to as chances are when lte rolls out, all of us who have chosen the unlimted packages (no throttle) will be forced into paying even more for the unlimited LTE or for the same 70/mo be stuck with LTE throttles... its inevitable at this point
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AT&T Grandfathered Unlimited Data vs. T-Mobile Unlimited 4G LTE?

Hi Guys,
I'm a current AT&T customer. I have a grandfathered LTE unlimited data plan. And about 400 phone minutes + unlimited texting. I pay about $75 out the door including taxes & etc.
AT&T is irking me right now, so I'm considering moving over to T-Mobile and looking for advice on a few questions.
Just FYI, T-Mobile is getting LTE in my area this month (Austin, TX). And I'm interested in their top of the line, $70/month "Unlimited Nationwide 4G" data plan.
1) My AT&T throttles me pretty hard after 5GB of use. Does T-Mobile do this?
2) Will the $70/month plan T-Mobile offers apply to LTE or just the faux 4G (3G)?
3) Should I just stay where I am on AT&T since I'm grandfathered?
4) Is there a chance T-Mobile will revoke my "Unlimited" next year like Verizon has done in the past?
Thanks for any advice.

1) My AT&T throttles me pretty hard after 5GB of use. Does T-Mobile do this?
No. If you have Unlimited Nationwide 4G you will never be throttled.
2) Will the $70/month plan T-Mobile offers apply to LTE or just the faux 4G (3G)?
Both.
3) Should I just stay where I am on AT&T since I'm grandfathered?
That's up to you.
4) Is there a chance T-Mobile will revoke my "Unlimited" next year like Verizon has done in the past?
Not a chance, this is their main selling point.

CZ Eddie said:
Hi Guys,
I'm a current AT&T customer. I have a grandfathered LTE unlimited data plan. And about 400 phone minutes + unlimited texting. I pay about $75 out the door including taxes & etc.
AT&T is irking me right now, so I'm considering moving over to T-Mobile and looking for advice on a few questions.
Just FYI, T-Mobile is getting LTE in my area this month (Austin, TX). And I'm interested in their top of the line, $70/month "Unlimited Nationwide 4G" data plan.
1) My AT&T throttles me pretty hard after 5GB of use. Does T-Mobile do this?
2) Will the $70/month plan T-Mobile offers apply to LTE or just the faux 4G (3G)?
3) Should I just stay where I am on AT&T since I'm grandfathered?
4) Is there a chance T-Mobile will revoke my "Unlimited" next year like Verizon has done in the past?
Thanks for any advice.
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1) With the unlimited nationwide 4g data plan, there is no throttling and its unlimited 4G data.
2) Yes it does apply to LTE but you need a LTE enabled device.
3)If you think that the 5 dollar difference is worth it. But in all reality its unlimited everything with no data caps when you get the 70 dollar plan, plus LTE is coming to your area soon so i'd go for it.
4)I highly doubt they would do something like that as they are trying to get ahead of Sprint, At&t, Verizon with the simple choice uncarrier plans.
lol someone answered while i was typing...oops.

Aww crud.
It looks like TMO does things a little differently.
Sure, the phone is only $149 up front. But then you have to pay $20/month for the next 24 months. Which effectively raises the $70/month plan to $90/month. Or a bunch more than what my AT&T plan would be if I get the $199 phone up front and stay with my current $70/month plan.

CZ Eddie said:
Aww crud.
It looks like TMO does things a little differently.
Sure, the phone is only $149 up front. But then you have to pay $20/month for the next 24 months. Which effectively raises the $70/month plan to $90/month. Or a bunch more than what my AT&T plan would be if I get the $199 phone up front and stay with my current $70/month plan.
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Keep in mind - with AT&T you gotta contract for that $199 phone. Whereas with TMobile, you don't have a contract..

CZ Eddie said:
Hi Guys,
I'm a current AT&T customer. I have a grandfathered LTE unlimited data plan. And about 400 phone minutes + unlimited texting. I pay about $75 out the door including taxes & etc.
AT&T is irking me right now, so I'm considering moving over to T-Mobile and looking for advice on a few questions.
Just FYI, T-Mobile is getting LTE in my area this month (Austin, TX). And I'm interested in their top of the line, $70/month "Unlimited Nationwide 4G" data plan.
1) My AT&T throttles me pretty hard after 5GB of use. Does T-Mobile do this?
2) Will the $70/month plan T-Mobile offers apply to LTE or just the faux 4G (3G)?
3) Should I just stay where I am on AT&T since I'm grandfathered?
4) Is there a chance T-Mobile will revoke my "Unlimited" next year like Verizon has done in the past?
Thanks for any advice.
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1) hell no
2) full LTE
3) hell no
4) hell no

coyttl said:
Keep in mind - with AT&T you gotta contract for that $199 phone. Whereas with TMobile, you don't have a contract..
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Ahhh, so I do have to pay $20/month for the phone for 24 months and that part is a "contract".
But the $70/month data plan is NOT a contract and I can quit that at any time.
Sounds nice I guess.
I wish T-Mobile website had a "chat" capability so I can talk to a salesperson. But they removed that feature.

CZ Eddie said:
Aww crud.
It looks like TMO does things a little differently.
Sure, the phone is only $149 up front. But then you have to pay $20/month for the next 24 months. Which effectively raises the $70/month plan to $90/month. Or a bunch more than what my AT&T plan would be if I get the $199 phone up front and stay with my current $70/month plan.
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you dont have to pay $20 a month for 24 months if you pay the $149, and then make a $300 payment after you account is created. you'll only pay $20 a month for 9 months after.
this is what i did.
f*** ATT bro.
f*** em'
make the jump.
i was with ATT mobile for ~15 years and couldn't be happier ive left those f**ks
f*****g bit*es

CZ Eddie said:
Ahhh, so I do have to pay $20/month for the phone for 24 months and that part is a "contract".
But the $70/month data plan is NOT a contract and I can quit that at any time.
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I think (however, I'm not sure, maybe someone else can tell me if I understand right or not..) If you terminate your plan with TMobil, you'll owe TMobile the rest of the price of the phone.
And if you don't have a contract with ATT, and don't owe them the rest of the money, then buy the phone for $199, cancel your plan the next month and sell the phone for $600. You'll make $400. DO it over and over, and you'll be rich.
The biggest selling point for me was the lack of contract. I plan on giving them an extra $100/month for a few months to get the phone paid off.

Regarding 2) Faux 4G/LTE:
I know quite a lot of ppl have issue with this as a matter of topic. But to be honest the "faux" 4G / LTE is pretty darn fast. It's HSPDA+ which at its worst runs at 4meg down and 1 meg up. I know plenty of ppl in Nyc that don't get that on their cable modems reliably. Also it's pretty challenging to really push the need for more unless you are downloading a rom.
I think it's a lot of media hype that ppl "need" 20 meg down and 10 meg up... It's like advertising a car that can do a 200+ mph top speed. Is it nice to have? Sure it is... Do you often have the opportunity to show it off I real life or day to day use? Not really... 100mph is plenty fast lol
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coyttl said:
I think (however, I'm not sure, maybe someone else can tell me if I understand right or not..) If you terminate your plan with TMobil, you'll owe TMobile the rest of the price of the phone.
And if you don't have a contract with ATT, and don't owe them the rest of the money, then buy the phone for $199, cancel your plan the next month and sell the phone for $600. You'll make $400. DO it over and over, and you'll be rich.
The biggest selling point for me was the lack of contract. I plan on giving them an extra $100/month for a few months to get the phone paid off.
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Awesome idea except that when you get a subsidized priced phone from att you are committing to 2 more years under contract with them...
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CZ Eddie said:
Ahhh, so I do have to pay $20/month for the phone for 24 months and that part is a "contract".
But the $70/month data plan is NOT a contract and I can quit that at any time.
Sounds nice I guess.
I wish T-Mobile website had a "chat" capability so I can talk to a salesperson. But they removed that feature.
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No, the phone is not a contract. It's just T-Mobile financing the phone to you. Just like buying a car, you put so much down and you pay it off when you pay it off, but your MINIMUM monthly payment is 20 bucks.
If you put the down payment, then 200 down the first month, and another 200 down the next month, and another 80 or so down the third month then cancel your service you now own the phone completely and T-Mobile will give you an unlock code and be like "Alright bro, thanks for the business, hope you come back yo." No early termination fees, no nothing.
However, if you cancel your service while you still owe money on the phone, you still owe money on the phone. You either pay it off at a rate of at minimum 20 per month OR you don't and they sell the finance to a collection agency.
It's just simple financing rather than being put into actual contracts like the big guys.
coyttl said:
I think (however, I'm not sure, maybe someone else can tell me if I understand right or not..) If you terminate your plan with TMobil, you'll owe TMobile the rest of the price of the phone.
And if you don't have a contract with ATT, and don't owe them the rest of the money, then buy the phone for $199, cancel your plan the next month and sell the phone for $600. You'll make $400. DO it over and over, and you'll be rich.
The biggest selling point for me was the lack of contract. I plan on giving them an extra $100/month for a few months to get the phone paid off.
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...except the ETF for ATT is 325 dollars... plus tax... plus tax when you buy the phone for 199... So you're looking at 525 plus tax for a phone you can MAYBE sell for 600. Not to mention whatever the rediculous cost of the first month plus activation fees, plus hidden charges, plus whatever the **** ATT feels like adding to your first (only in this case) bill.
Plus I'm sure ATT has somewhere in fine print you will have to pay more if you try some stupid **** like this.
Great idea, you should try it and end up paying probably around 150 bucks for the lesson.

TeknoGodz said:
You either pay it off completely you don't and they sell the finance to a collection agency.
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FTFY. If you end service before the end of the phone payment term, you owe the balance of the phone there. If it's $20, you pay $20, if it's $200, you pay $200.

k0nane said:
FTFY. If you end service before the end of the phone payment term, you owe the balance of the phone there. If it's $20, you pay $20, if it's $200, you pay $200.
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Oh really, I thought you could still pay it monthly... Well that kinda sucks.

TeknoGodz said:
Oh really, I thought you could still pay it monthly... Well that kinda sucks.
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No I'm pretty sure you can still pay it off monthly even after you cancel the service according to one of the corporate T-Mobile agents I spoke to.
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No I'm pretty sure you can still pay it off monthly even after you cancel the service according to one of the corporate T-Mobile agents I spoke to.
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Then again I would NOT trust a word that comes out of their mouth. They no nothing. I asked 3 different people and they told me I could not use the 100 dollar cards that you can buy at walmart or target for my simple choice plan. They told me there was no way and there are no prepaid cards that allow you to do this. The next day I was at target and saw the card.... It clearly states "For use with prepaid or monthly plans". Bought it and used it no issues.
Haven't believed a word from their mouth since.

TeknoGodz said:
Then again I would NOT trust a word that comes out of their mouth. They no nothing. I asked 3 different people and they told me I could not use the 100 dollar cards that you can buy at walmart or target for my simple choice plan. They told me there was no way and there are no prepaid cards that allow you to do this. The next day I was at target and saw the card.... It clearly states "For use with prepaid or monthly plans". Bought it and used it no issues.
Haven't believed a word from their mouth since.
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That's bad luck lol. Usually the people I talk to are usually right but I do customer service over chat.
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Yeah, it's really clever marketing by T-Mobile, this whole "un-carrier" thing. You end up paying $20/month for the privilege of not having a contract. I don't know about most of you, but I don't switch carriers THAT often. And even so, if your termination fee is pro-rated, then why not let the carrier eat the subsidy for as long as you were a customer? You're going to have service for a period of time anyway, you might as well get device subsidy credit for it. With T-Mobile you get nada. Assuming you're a T-Mobile customer for 2 years, you just paid full price for the phone AND $70/month for service. It's really genius and AT&T has to be pissed they didn't think of it first those livered lilly money grubers!
I have the AT&T Unlimited Data plan, but at 5gb and then throttled, they can s!#k it.

kevroc said:
Yeah, it's really clever marketing by T-Mobile, this whole "un-carrier" thing. You end up paying $20/month for the privilege of not having a contract. I don't know about most of you, but I don't switch carriers THAT often. And even so, if your termination fee is pro-rated, then why not let the carrier eat the subsidy for as long as you were a customer? You're going to have service for a period of time anyway, you might as well get device subsidy credit for it. With T-Mobile you get nada. Assuming you're a T-Mobile customer for 2 years, you just paid full price for the phone AND $70/month for service. It's really genius and AT&T has to be pissed they didn't think of it first those livered lilly money grubers!
I have the AT&T Unlimited Data plan, but at 5gb and then throttled, they can s!#k it.
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From each carrier's website, new contract, two lines, assuming purchase of two S4s:
Sprint: $249.99 per phone ($149.99 if transferring your number), $149.99 per month for 1500 shared minutes and unlimited text/data ($209 per month for unlimited everything)
AT&T: $199.99 per phone, $149.99 per month for 550 shared minutes, unlimited text, 3 GB data per phone (more per month for more minutes, 209.99 if you want unlimited; $20 extra per phone to upgrade to 5 GB, their max allowed)
Verizon: $199.99 per phone, $149.99 per month for unlimited talk/text and 4 GB of shared data ($160 for 6 GB, up to $190 for 12 GB)
T-Mobile: $149.99 per phone up front, $140 (includes phone payment) for unlimited talk/text and 2.5 GB of data per phone, $160 for unlimited data instead
*That* is the point of T-Mobile's plans, the no-contract thing is merely a nice convenience. Even including the phone cost it's $10/month cheaper than the other carriers for their cheapest useful plans (assuming you want more than a few hundred megs of data each month) and just $10 more per month than the fairly limited plans Verizon and AT&T offer at that price level gets you full unlimited.