Related
See http://www.pielframa.com/promo_jasjar.htm
Only problem is that it would appear there is no belt clip
Nice!!
That's the first good case I've seen!
Looks professional and easy to use. Its a bit expensive to order it yet.
But that's the case I'm going to get for my MDA Pro
The missing belt-clip makes this case useless for me .. i want one with a belt clip !!!
- Superbowl
A beltclip is necessary for me, too. Without this function the standard MDA Pro case is OK with me. I think a case like the standard for the magician would be perfect for me - belt clip an quick release...
looks awesome, dunno that i'd trust having the pda open and the cover shut as those storage cards in the case get a tad close to the screen for my liking!
Flubster
There is not any plan at piel frama to add belt clip , i sent an e-mail to piel frama & they reply :
Regarding the belt clip, we have to inform you that due to the weight of the device and the design of the case, we cannot instal a belt clip on this new leather case. The clip would not stand the weight of the device on the belt. Besides, if we would instal a belt clip on the case, the functionality of the case would not be the intended one as the user would not be able to use the device with the belt clip on it.
We are sure that you will understand this situation and will agree that the belt clip is not a good idea for this model.
Please, do not hesitate to contact us if you need further assistance.
Very best regards and have a nice day!!
I just bought the Piel Frama case. The leather feels good but there is one design flaw. It has a strip of leather on top of the keyboard. With it my PDA cannot close properly. I am so afraid to damage the hinges on my new toy. If you have any ideas to modify this problem please let me know.
If anybody wants to buy my Piel Frama case for JASJAR please let me know. I live in Hong Kong
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I just bought the Piel Frama case. The leather feels good but there is one design flaw. It has a strip of leather on top of the keyboard. With it my PDA cannot close properly. I am so afraid to damage the hinges on my new toy. If you have any ideas to modify this problem please let me know.
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You can cut the strip on top, near costures... I have one and no damage on JJ...
I am also very tempted to cut the strip of leather. But I was thinking if you do, after awhile the whole JASJAR might just fall out. Its really a pain to see such a nice case go to waste.
I was going to cut the leather strip as well. It does not seem like this is really what is holding it in so there would not be much harm in cutting it so that the device could fully close.
Can someone who did this post pics and say if it makes an improvement?
Cutting the case
Why are you guys cutting the case? Pielframa should replace the faulty cases. In the past they have replaced cases whithout the need to send back your faulty cases. Most people buy them from outside Spain. Sending it back internationally could be a pain. In the past when they released the first batch of the ipaq iPAQ H6340 cases, these cases were also faulty (it does not fit well). They did not recall the cases, but replaced them.
By the way the Pielframa issue is also mentioned on another thread. See
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=183962#183962
Maybe they've changed their policies on replacements. As you stated, I don't want to mess with a 2-3 week turnaround from sending from the USA and back to Spain.
Here is what I got from Piel Frama:
Thank you very much for your email and for your kind words about our products.
We are sorry to hear that you are having problems with the case. In fact, some of our customers have informed us that they are having some problems to close the device. Our craftsmen have been thinking about it and they have thought about a solution which would be to take the thin strap over the keyboard from the case so that the problem will be solved and the device will close without problems.
So that, we would ask you to ship the case back to us by regular mail and we would modify it the case. Our postal address is the following one:
PIEL FRAMA
Avda. Fuente San Francisco S/Nº
P. I. "LA PIEL"
11600 Ubrique (Cádiz)
Spain
Once we get it, we will make this modification in the case and we will ship it back to you.
If its a matter of just cutting out the back leather strip, I can do that myself instead of dealing with a 2-3 week turnaround not to mention the mailing costs in addition to costs that I've already paid, to mail it to them.
It is not very customer friendly. Pielframe cases are certainly not cheap. A standard (i.e. not crocodile or ostrich) Jasjar case cost at least 70 euro's about 87 $. So we should expect good quality and good working cases. If a case is faulty which could damage the jasjar / MDA Pro then they are liable for that. So having customers to spend more money (time and shipping cost) to have it fix does not really make sense.
My Piel Frama case just arrived this morning (ordered on 2 Nov.). I was excitied because my normally they have great products. The leather is nice, but I have to report the problem mentioned above is worse than I imagined.
With my case, the leather strap across the top of the keyboard prevents the screen from closing by about 8mm!
I can not even snap-close the case because the screen sticks up so high --even if I apply pressure.
So, my case is completely unusable. I wonder if they had real Universal units during the design process, or if they just worked form published specs.
Back to Piel Frama.
I was visiting Piel Frama Factory. They have an I-Mate JASJAS to probe the cases. I have a cocodrile leather case and my JASJAR close well. You can see my blog (click in my firm or www) ... and will see, in last picture, the Piel Frama's JasJar.
Have Fun
my word of advice is don't use the case unless you do something about it. after 2 days of using my piel frama case I removed it and notice that the hinge is quite loose. previously the joints were tight, right now when I move the screen portion there is a clicking sound and it is coming from the joints. piel frama case has damaged my toy instead of protecting it. I just cut away the top portion leather that is above the keyboard. I don't care about sending it back, anyway what can they do when the design itself is flawed.
I did expect a little more than just "send the case back to us", but I guess that is the way customer service has gotten these days. Fortunately, I purchased my case from a reseller in the US and only paid $54 but still expected better from Piel Frama.
This bad press isn't going to be helping them sell many cases, because most of us hear about these things through forums such as this one.
Does cutting away the back leather strap appear to make a difference when closing the Universal now? I'm ready to start hacking mine!
yes , cutting it off does help quite bit, its much better now. however it will not completely close because there are still 2 more pieces of leather at the side. what I did was that I used a clamp for about 15 mins both sides. it looks ok much better than before. a few guys on this forum has also done so. afterall the machin is more precious than the case
greatestkelvin said:
yes , cutting it off does help quite bit, its much better now. however it will not completely close because there are still 2 more pieces of leather at the side. what I did was that I used a clamp for about 15 mins both sides. it looks ok much better than before. a few guys on this forum has also done so. afterall the machin is more precious than the case
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Hmm ... cutting the back stip off lowers the lid just a little. Cosmetically, the appearance is nicer with the strap. There's still some pressure on the back hinge when you snap the case closed. But, it looks to me like the top lid of the jj is flexing a little and like closing the lid is depressing the remaining leather on the sides that's causing problems. This pressure on the lid bothers me, but I'm not sure it will damage the hinge on my jj. I'm going to think about this more before deciding whether to return it to Frama.
I had, and still have, a slight clicking sound when closing the lid. This clicking sound isn't there at all if I pull the lid closed from the right side. But, it is there if I pull the lid closed from the left side. The swivel mechanism is rotated slightly counterclockwise and that is why right vs. left side pulling down of the lid causes no clicking vs. clicking.
This is not to say that the Frama case couldn't cause hinge problems for some. I don't think it would for me ... but I'm reluctant to snap the case shut now until I investigate further.
I have found a new metal case for the i-mate Jasjar/XDA Exec.
http://pdaden.com/shop/catalog/prod..._9000_SPV_M5000_Dopod_900_VPA_IV_cat_256.html
I ordered one today, it will take 2 weeks before I receive it. This is going to be my 4th metal case I ordered from the same webstore. Though they're in HongKong, my past experiences always have been good.
I sent them email to ask the followings:
1. Does it have a transparant plastic on the PDA display?
2. Does it have a belt clip?
It seems to have a belt clip hole in the back, but the pics don't show the beltclip somehow and they did not mention it either.
I hope it has a plastic over the display. Make it easier to see who's calling without opening the case. Some ppl may like it without plastic so that they can use the PDA inside the case.
Regards,
Fredy
Got two different answers. Pdaden answered me that the metal case has a transparant plastics in the screen window and it comes with a belt clip.
Pdair answered me that it does not have the transparant plastic in the screen window. Btw, pdair sells it a few bucks more expensive, but they don't charge for shipping.
I'll find out when mine arrived. Or may be any of you got one already?
My Opinion on Metal Cases
Like you guys, i've been patiently waiting for a good case, and while your search seems to be over with this metal case, mine will continue.
Currently I am using the Ipaq 6315's OEM "sh*tty-for-the-6315-but-good-for-the-Jasjar" pleather case. For my 6315, for the longest time I used the Famous Alumuninum Aftermarket case.
While that metal case was good in providing all around protection for the Ipaq when dropped (itls dings show), it also easily damaged the device....scratching it in time on the inside upon device insertion/removal for cradling etc. as the little bit of soft liner inside wore out to reveal the metal.
Plus the belt clip had a tendency to unscrew itself to the point now where it doesn't even screw back in to the threads. Plus the plastic cover fell off a long time ago.
So my case was from Innopocket, and I saw it being sold under various brand names, so I assume the similar manufacturing style for the JJ version.
One positive thing a metal case has taught me is to appreciate a case that provides encasement and all around protection Vs. the open sides of the Proporta pleather case, another one Ilm not sold on, while the book style design is coveted.
I'd like to see a case like the Heavy Duty Protection version Bellagio Designs has for the Ipaq 6315 which is in pleather, is cradle ready, and has no exposed surfaces when closed. Too much to ask for our $1000-ish device? Ild like to think not.
As a footnote, I've already mentioned my retrofit 6315 temporary case solution, and read somewhere of someone having a good retrofit result in the interim with an (OEM or Aftermarket) ipaq 5700(?) case.
If you've had luck with a good retrofit, I'm sure
a lot of us including myself would love to hear in detail about it while we wait on purchasing that perfect case, yet_to_be_made, for our beloved JasJar.
-Rom_guest
Hi,
What case do people recommend to keep their Orbit safe? I'm stuck between the Krussell (which I have protected phones with before) , a silicon case (ebay item number 160068404562) or PDA Leather Flip Case (ebay 160068463414).
I'm tempted for the silicon as you still have easy access to the screen , but welcome any other ideas.
gavinlew said:
I'm tempted for the silicon as you still have easy access to the screen , but welcome any other ideas.
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Before reading your question, I was not aware of the existance of a silicon case for this model. Now I've looked it up at Ebay and am also interested. A couple of months ago I bought a silicon case for my mp3 player (different brand though, ZCover) and am very pleased with it. So far however, the seller seems only to ship within the UK. I have just asked him by email if he is able to ship abroad, no answer yet.
Update: he does sell abroad. Apparently he has more than one item on Ebay, all about this case but with different shipping methods. Anyway, I just ordered a black silicon case, due to arrive later this week. I will let you know.
hi
i have the PDAIR flip case and am very pleased with it. i prefer it to a silicon type as it gives the screen more protection.
I agree that a flip case does give more protection, especially to the screen, but isn't it annoying when actually making a call? I presume you don't take the phone out of the case before calling. To me it looks rather silly. NOFI.
Have a look for the aluminium (on ebay, under artemis/p3300) case for the artemis as I have just ordered one and hope it is a good fit for the orbit?
Not massively protective but the slipcase supplied with the 8oGB ipod is a perfect fit. I'm using it just now to avoid scratches until i find a good screen protector and silicon case.
JC#79 said:
Have a look for the aluminium (on ebay, under artemis/p3300) case for the artemis as I have just ordered one and hope it is a good fit for the orbit?
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has your aluminiun case arrived, How much extra bulk does it add, as I'm thinking of getting one. I already have a black silicone case which is very good, and a very tight snug fit, but no protection for the screen. If the aluminium one is not to big, then I would sell my silicone case.
Yes my aluminium case came through the same day as my last post and it does not add much bulk to the device. The only issue I have had with it is the stylus is covered slightly so to remove it you have to open the case and slide the phone up slightly. Apart from that great case would recommend highly to all those in need of a case. My case came in a Pdair box so I assume it is made by them?
I also have the leather PDAIR flip case and my only criticism is that it extends a little to much toward the sides of the base of the screen so that I must angle the stylus a bit at the edges.
mungosdad said:
I already have a black silicone case which is very good, and a very tight snug fit, but no protection for the screen. If the aluminium one is not to big, then I would sell my silicone case.
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I just had a look at the aluminium cases sold on Ebay but they don't seem to have protection for the screen as well? How is that different then?
Just like you, I ordered a silicon case last week and it arrived a couple of days later. I'm pleased with it, pretty tight fit, better grip, no chance anymore of scratching the camera lens when the phone is on it's back, and all the required openings are exactly on the right spot. Indeed, the only thing left is the absence of protection for the screen, but I don't carry the phone in a pocket together with keys or coins.
The aluminium case has a plastic screen in it to protect the orbit. You have to open the front cover to use the touch screen.
All of which is not a problem as I would advise anyone with a phone of this quality to purchase a screen protector ASAP.
I didn't use my orbit till my protector came through the post.
Hi All
I spoke to the lady in the O2 shop in Swindon about cases, she said that O2 will be releasing some Orbit specific ones in the next couple of weeks.
I have my fingers crossed.
Rich
JC#79 said:
I didn't use my orbit till my protector came through the post.
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The slightly scratched, fingerprint smeared and dusty state of my just-over-a-week-old Orbit screen would probably give you a heart attack then! Screen protectors don't come cheap, £10 for little sheets of sticky plastic... selotape is under £1 a roll! I'll just use some of that!
Has anyone on their internet travels come across a vertical leather pouch/holster for the Artemis that has a belt clip?
Something like this:
http://www.mobilecityonline.com/wireless/store/productdetail.asp?productid=21740
Just want something that can be attached to a belt and the Artemis slid into and out of - not for use in the actual case.
Must be vertical and minimal size (ie designed for the Artemis and no larger).
Krusell Vertica with Multidapt® - S-Wide
Selotape aside I'll almost certainly be going for http://www.pielframa.net/pielframa_productos.asp?id=1685 (mentioned on the other case thread) if I ever bother getting a case... can't beat something made-to-measure!
Just got myself a Piel Farama in black for my Jasjam. Looks very good and high quality but certainly requires getting a bit used to as each time you have to open the flap and fold it all the way back to get a hold of the device to take or make a call.
regards
Thanks Moleshome - that is exactly what I am looking for except my only concern (as with all "multi" cases) is that it will not fit it nicely and/or be the smallest possible case for the dimensions of the p3300. I can't think it fits all of the listed "compatible" models perfectly and I don't know if the Artemis would be in that category.
Anyone bought this particular case? Experiences?
Got my Piel Frama case today - it fits the Orbit well despite being designed for the P3300 (sharper corners).
Overall a beautifully crafted case which I will probably return as it won't let me store a credit card in the flap. My last case for the XDA Mini was a Krusell - hope they bring out an Orbit sepcific case soon....
strongp said:
Overall a beautifully crafted case which I will probably return as it won't let me store a credit card in the flap. My last case for the XDA Mini was a Krusell - hope they bring out an Orbit sepcific case soon....
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No good for spontanous gprs internet shopping on the go then?
I dropped an email to see if I could get one for review, fingers crossed otherwise I'll have to fork over some mulah or see what my birthday holds. (I've been a games/tech journalist for a while, which is nice)
Would be interesting to get a comparison of the Krusell and Piel cases, and maybe something a bit more on the minimalistic size. I'll see what I can do, but neither are contacts I've dealt with before.
I've found a number of Sites selling cases for the Ozone (I assume they'd work on the other devices based on the Maple/Willow)
http://www.wirelessground.com/s511skinsmoke.html
http://www.daydeal.com/home.php?cat=4390
http://www.talkietech.com/vewihtcozxvc.html
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw_1_9?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=htc+ozone+case&sprefix=htc+ozone
Does anyone have any experience with any of these vendors? Know the source? Or have any thoughts on the items?
Thanks.
IMHO i wouldnt buy a case just yet, unless its from ur service provider or from HTC itself.
in alot of cases and reports ive read they are using the Blackberry Curve cases with minimal NOTICEABLE modifications to make them Snap compatible, and well thats no bueno!
Talkie Tech Cases
I just got 2 cases from Talkie Tech and I can say they're made for the HTC Ozone. Definitely *not* a mod of another phone.
Price was $9.95(US) plus flat rate shipping ($4.95 I believe) and I got them in 2 days.
Very satisfied, they're a great product.
http://www.talkietech.com/vewihtcozxvc.html
-Tutivillus
i just bought my case from t-mobile for 16 dollars at the most
i am using a dlo leather palm centro belt holder. fits like a glove and 10 bucks at best buy.
PDAir Cases
I've gotten PDAir aluminum cases for my last three HTC phones and they all fit great. Here's a link to the Dash 3G/Maple case.
http://www.pdair.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=10100000_900000_11000744&products_id=22370
-- Kerne
I'm still waiting for my softcase..after research this softcase will fit for my snap..
will post pic and review here later after my softcase arrived..
im bought from: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160354351925&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
kerne said:
I've gotten PDAir aluminum cases for my last three HTC phones and they all fit great. Here's a link to the Dash 3G/Maple case.
http://www.pdair.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=10100000_900000_11000744&products_id=22370
-- Kerne
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nice case,can you say me how much heavy is that?
PDAir case weight
The black case by itself weighs exactly 32.9g. My phone weighs 116.5g.
zanfo said:
nice case,can you say me how much heavy is that?
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I just bought this one on Ebay-
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=400070510706&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSA:US:1123
I had a hard plastic case for about 2 weeks, took it off to pull battery and noticed pits from rocks/dirt that got under the case... Soft Skins = Win.
Had a silicone case for 3 weeks, easy to clean, no dirt, best buy.
I use the Ozone belt clip / holster available from VZW
Hard Plastic
I bought a hard plastic case, coated in rubber on the outside, for about $20 from verizon corp. store... It makes the phone a little easier to handle, without it I always felt I was going to drop it, def. a good choice for me, it snaps together well, and has a little pit where you need to insert the edge of a coin and pry it apart, not going to pull apart by accident. The thick design also protects the cam lens from scratches as well. I'd recommend something like this, by the way they even gave me my 22% work discount on the accessory, as well as on the monthly bill.
kerne said:
I've gotten PDAir aluminum cases for my last three HTC phones and they all fit great. Here's a link to the Dash 3G/Maple case.
http://www.pdair.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=10100000_900000_11000744&products_id=22370
-- Kerne
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+1...I just got mine today and I love it....fits great!
Found a couple other websites, sell a lot more accessories besides just cases.
http://www.elitextreme.com/xv6175.html?gclid=CPmkk_Gw3p4CFUlo5QodIDUIJA
http://www.handhelditems.com/cell-phone-accessories-ozone-accessories-c-3524_5132_7197.html
Will Ozone cases fit my Sprint Snap, or are there slight differences that wont allow snap cases to work?
Case Mate Barely There for Dash 3G
Here is one on Ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Case-Mate-Barel...wItemQQptZPDA_Accessories?hash=item19baaafcca
It comes in 5 colors, my choice is black.
This is the FINEST case for the Dash 3G, a little pricey but you get what you pay for. They go for about $17 on most websites. Form fitting case, protects the sides and corners and adds strength. Comes with a clear screen protector. Adds on a couple of millimeters to the size but you can find a leather case that will fit even with the Case Mate installed when you are on the go.
This case also removes easilly in case you want to change the battery or whatever.
I went quite a few cases before i found this one, and I love it. Forget about the cheap snap on cases they break, the expensive snap ons they wont come off without breaking, the aluminum cases block the signal, this is the case you want!
I´ve just buyed the black silicone case posted before, soon as I got it I´ll post some pics
I got 2 Ozone protective plastic/rubberized front case from handhelditems.com along with the mirror screen protector, along with fast USPS shipping - all for under $10 (USD)
The case fit together nicely & tightly, and made it nearly the same size as the classic Motorla Q series - all the factory slots, usb port, camera & side buttons are easily to use. It gives the phone the extra weight, touch & feel and even if it is dropped, should give it good amount of protection.
I then slide mine into one of those Motorola side pouch for extra margin of safety. At other things, I just put it in the pocket as it's so slim and away from keys, coins or items that can scratch.
I had the leather case with rotating belt clip from VZW for a while and that worked too, except the plastic over the screen sometimes do cause problem trying to read it outdoor, plus, dust gather underneath it.
I have a slightly used OEM Verizon Ozone holster if anybody wants to pony up $10.00 you can have it.
I've spent hours looking at threads and product pages, and only found one goofy-looking thing shipping from China -- and even that one doesn't explicitly say "no magnets", but at least doesn't mention magnets or auto-wake/sleep. Minimum requirements:
-- non-magnetic secure closure / clasp (for example. button-snap, or velcro, or the kind of self-locking metal closure used on attache- or brief-cases -- or even a zipper)
-- bumper-style surround (vs. corner straps -- looking for secure attachment *and* shock protection)
-- sufficient excess border material to protect corners and edges
-- able to fold the front cover all the way back (even though that blocks the camera), so that the whole thing can be held in a grippy stand / holder, without the front cover flapping around (BTW, this guy does a fantastic job of making stands / mounts to *custom* requirements, *inexpensively* -- he's already made two for my S8+ in Spigen Wallet case, and is about to make another to hold the same + wireless charger: SlipGripCarMounts.com)
Nice to have but not essential (could mod these features myself):
-- pen holder
-- elastic strap inside the front cover, to slip your hand through when cover is folded back
-- a carrying handle on the spine, as on artists' portfolio cases
-- able to fold back the closure so that it also holds in place the folded-back front cover
My dad is actually making me a leather folio case, I'll post photos when hes finished.
I have found this case and https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Forefront-Cases-Rotating-Smart-Case-Cover-Samsung-Galaxy-Tab-S3-9-7-SM-T820/332224684565?_trkparms=aid%3D777001%26algo%3DDISCO.FEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160801204525%26meid%3Dd914a29d045545bfb27f87a1b1b52fc7%26pid%3D100651%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26%26itm%3D332224684565&_trksid=p2481888.c100651.m4497&_trkparms=pageci%3A5a9d0226-7861-11e8-8690-74dbd180fbe2%7Cparentrq%3A367553b51640ac3d2c0efbd6fffa85f3%7Ciid%3A1
eBay item number:332224684565
The seller confirmed that there is no magnets and it uses the strap to keep it shut
double check about the magnet
if its this case
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLWtSCBsBjE
and on the offical site it looks like it has sleep wake feature if you look thru pictures.
https://forefrontcases.co.uk/produc...t820-leather-rotating-smart-case-cover-stand/
let us know either way mate .
I need a case
swagatsourav said:
I have found this case and https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Forefront-Cases-Rotating-Smart-Case-Cover-Samsung-Galaxy-Tab-S3-9-7-SM-T820/332224684565?_trkparms=aid%3D777001%26algo%3DDISCO.FEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160801204525%26meid%3Dd914a29d045545bfb27f87a1b1b52fc7%26pid%3D100651%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26%26itm%3D332224684565&_trksid=p2481888.c100651.m4497&_trkparms=pageci%3A5a9d0226-7861-11e8-8690-74dbd180fbe2%7Cparentrq%3A367553b51640ac3d2c0efbd6fffa85f3%7Ciid%3A1
eBay item number:332224684565
The seller confirmed that there is no magnets and it uses the strap to keep it shut
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Ronin475 said:
double check about the magnet
if its this case
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLWtSCBsBjE
and on the offical site it looks like it has sleep wake feature if you look thru pictures.
https://forefrontcases.co.uk/produc...t820-leather-rotating-smart-case-cover-stand/
let us know either way mate .
I need a case
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This is what he said to me before
I can confirm this item does not have a magnetic closure and is kept shut using the strap.
I have sent him a message again quoting the website , but the vide you sent was of s2. Not sure if they have changed it on S3.
bad news and good news
The bad news...
Examining the evidence offered by @Ronin475, I think it's probably true.
The good news...
I FOUND THE CASE. Before I started this thread, I had actually already ordered a case on Amazon, purely on the basis that:
(a) although the Amazon page doesn't explicitly say "no magnets", it does't mention magnets or sleep / wake;
(b) it was going to take 3+ weeks to deliver (from China), and I had no idea how much longer I might be searching; and,
(c) it's cheap ($14 US including shipping) and therefore low-risk.
Well, it arrived today, much sooner (11 days) than expected. I had been expecting to be disappointed in one or more
respects, considering the low price and the shipping location -- not because it's *made* in China, but because no one
thought it worth *warehousing* in a major market like the U.S.
I've been pleasantly surprised.
(a) I confirmed there are no magnets. I ran a small "horse-shoe" magnet all over the case, and detected no metal.
Then I passed all parts of the front cover over the right side of the powered-on S3, and it had no effect.
(b) Given the price, it seems to be better build-quality than I expected. And it "ticks" the essential boxes...
(c) It has rubber bumpers all around, with properly located openings for everything, except that there's no opening for the
microSD card tray. (Oddly, though, it appears to have an opening for the ejection pin.). I guess it's not unreasonable to think
that users wouldn't be opening the tray very often; and having to remove this case to access the tray isn't difficult. And the
Spigen Wallet folio case on my S8+ also blocks the combination SD / SIM tray.
(c) I'd prefer to have the surround be a *tiny* bit thicker and project a couple of mm higher above the screen than it does,
but I'd say it's roughly proportional to what the Spigen does.
(d) The edges of the case do extend visibly beyond the bumper, providing side and corner protection.
(e) The front cover does fold all the way back, lying completely flat against the back.
(f) This wasn't part of the "essentials" in my OP, but the outer surfaces are moderately textured, making it less likely to
slip out of your hand.
(g) Likewise not originally listed as essential, it has a slight detent / kickstand inside the front cover, which holds the screen
at approximately 60 degrees in landscape-mode.
My only reservation about the construction is that I haven't yet installed the Spigen tempered-glass screen protector
which I already purchased for the tablet, so I can't yet confirm that the surround will still properly fit after I do that.
It doesn't have any kind of closure, but I can fix that easily and cheaply with some stick-on pieces of "hook-and-loop"
material (AKA velcro) which are sold on Amazon and in any office-supplies store.
It doesn't have any of the attributes I listed as "Nice to have but not essential", but as I said, I could mod those features myself.
And one more thing...
The decorative image is garish -- no plain patterns or solid colors or other "quiet"-looking options are offered.
But you have a choice of fifteen different garish and / or juvenile-looking patterns from which to choose.
Now that I'm looking at the Amazon page again, the least silly-looking one is probably the "Plum Blossom" pattern --
if you don't mind seeing a flash of Shocking Pink whenever you open the case.
If you're the "handy" type, you could probably find something at a crafts-supply store which you could trim to fit
and then glue over the outside.
The forum isn't letting me post the complete URL, but you can simply go to Amazon, and copy and paste
the following product-ID into the search field: B074H1H9XS
The Forefront case mentioned by @swagatsourav certainly looks nicer, and I like the swivel and the multi-position
kickstand. But 20+ British pounds (with shipping) is about $27US. I would have been willing to spend that much,
if I'd been aware of that case, and if I could have been *certain* about the magnet.
excellent review mate, my finte case arrived (the reviews said no probs with magnets, i contacted finite they said they were unaware of any problems )
but unfortunatly it does affect the pen once you know what to look for sadly.
It was less than £10 ,so i took a scalpel to it and removed the magnetic strips without any major damage. (this version has the pen holder BTW)
It still acts as a stand but not as secure as with magnetic strips and doesnt clip closed , but until i can get a better version this may do
link below for refrence
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B072N4YGVG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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The bad news...
Examining the evidence offered by @Ronin475, I think it's probably true.
The good news...
I FOUND THE CASE. Before I started this thread, I had actually already ordered a case on Amazon, purely on the basis that:
(a) although the Amazon page doesn't explicitly say "no magnets", it does't mention magnets or sleep / wake;
(b) it was going to take 3+ weeks to deliver (from China), and I had no idea how much longer I might be searching; and,
(c) it's cheap ($14 US including shipping) and therefore low-risk.
Well, it arrived today, much sooner (11 days) than expected. I had been expecting to be disappointed in one or more
respects, considering the low price and the shipping location -- not because it's *made* in China, but because no one
thought it worth *warehousing* in a major market like the U.S.
I've been pleasantly surprised.
(a) I confirmed there are no magnets. I ran a small "horse-shoe" magnet all over the case, and detected no metal.
Then I passed all parts of the front cover over the right side of the powered-on S3, and it had no effect.
(b) Given the price, it seems to be better build-quality than I expected. And it "ticks" the essential boxes...
(c) It has rubber bumpers all around, with properly located openings for everything, except that there's no opening for the
microSD card tray. (Oddly, though, it appears to have an opening for the ejection pin.). I guess it's not unreasonable to think
that users wouldn't be opening the tray very often; and having to remove this case to access the tray isn't difficult. And the
Spigen Wallet folio case on my S8+ also blocks the combination SD / SIM tray.
(c) I'd prefer to have the surround be a *tiny* bit thicker and project a couple of mm higher above the screen than it does,
but I'd say it's roughly proportional to what the Spigen does.
(d) The edges of the case do extend visibly beyond the bumper, providing side and corner protection.
(e) The front cover does fold all the way back, lying completely flat against the back.
(f) This wasn't part of the "essentials" in my OP, but the outer surfaces are moderately textured, making it less likely to
slip out of your hand.
(g) Likewise not originally listed as essential, it has a slight detent / kickstand inside the front cover, which holds the screen
at approximately 60 degrees in landscape-mode.
My only reservation about the construction is that I haven't yet installed the Spigen tempered-glass screen protector
which I already purchased for the tablet, so I can't yet confirm that the surround will still properly fit after I do that.
It doesn't have any kind of closure, but I can fix that easily and cheaply with some stick-on pieces of "hook-and-loop"
material (AKA velcro) which are sold on Amazon and in any office-supplies store.
It doesn't have any of the attributes I listed as "Nice to have but not essential", but as I said, I could mod those features myself.
And one more thing...
The decorative image is garish -- no plain patterns or solid colors or other "quiet"-looking options are offered.
But you have a choice of fifteen different garish and / or juvenile-looking patterns from which to choose.
Now that I'm looking at the Amazon page again, the least silly-looking one is probably the "Plum Blossom" pattern --
if you don't mind seeing a flash of Shocking Pink whenever you open the case.
If you're the "handy" type, you could probably find something at a crafts-supply store which you could trim to fit
and then glue over the outside.
The forum isn't letting me post the complete URL, but you can simply go to Amazon, and copy and paste
the following product-ID into the search field: B074H1H9XS
The Forefront case mentioned by @swagatsourav certainly looks nicer, and I like the swivel and the multi-position
kickstand. But 20+ British pounds (with shipping) is about $27US. I would have been willing to spend that much,
if I'd been aware of that case, and if I could have been *certain* about the magnet.
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Ronin475 said:
i took a scalpel to it and removed the magnetic strips without any major damage.
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I've handled Fintie products before, and I like them. And although their cases offer some of the same garish patterns as mine, they at least also do offer some which are more staid. And even their version of the "Plum Blossom" pattern is lined in subdued grey (vs. bright pink).
More importantly... can you post some close-up pics to show what the "post-surgical" sites look like?
And... not to be intrusively personal, but why do you happen to have scalpels lying around?
Do you by any chance frequent the Whitechapel area, or do occasional barbering on Fleet Street?
will grab some pics when i get home tomorrow mate
the case was simple black which is all i wanted no frill's no spills.
Doesnt every one have a scapel laying around just in case? lol
A friend of my is a Doctor so she knows i like gadgets etc so gave me the small light pen scapel etc , they have come in handy on occasion
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I've handled Fintie products before, and I like them. And although their cases offer some of the same garish patterns as mine, they at least also do offer some which are more staid. And even their version of the "Plum Blossom" pattern is lined in subdued grey (vs. bright pink).
More importantly... can you post some close-up pics to show what the "post-surgical" sites look like?
And... not to be intrusively personal, but why do you happen to have scalpels lying around?
Do you by any chance frequent the Whitechapel area, or do occasional barbering on Fleet Street?
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swagatsourav said:
This is what he said to me before
I can confirm this item does not have a magnetic closure and is kept shut using the strap.
I have sent him a message again quoting the website , but the vide you sent was of s2. Not sure if they have changed it on S3.
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So finally he did confirm it does HAVE magnets when i asked specifically about sleep wake.
Unfortunately the case mentioned by @nusratt is no longer available on amazon UK and neither does the seller on amazon USA ships it to UK.
I am still contemplating about going for
MoKo Galaxy Tab S3 9.7 Slim-Fit Multi-angle Folio Cover Case but need confirmation from any members that it would not affect the spen use.
@leojab mentioned in https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s3/accessories/zero-magnet-folio-style-case-t3807323 thread that it works perfectly fine.
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Unfortunately the case mentioned by @nusratt is no longer available on amazon UK and neither does the seller on amazon USA ships it to UK.
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I'm surprised that they won't ship to UK, since they're shipping from China. Have you tried contacting the seller directly, through their Amazon page?
how about this one?
swagatsourav said:
I am still contemplating about going for MoKo Galaxy Tab S3 9.7 Slim-Fit Multi-angle Folio Cover Case but need confirmation from any members that it would not affect the spen use.
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On xda and elsewhere, I've read several posts saying about various cases, "I didn't see the problem until I had been using the case for a while." That's why I decided not to pursue any case which mentioned having *either* a magnet *or* a sleep / wake function.
Somewhere recently, maybe on xda or even in this very thread, I saw this one ("kwmobile Elegant") on Amazon: B07233PKL8
Maybe you could ask that one's seller about magnets, sleep, and shipping.
I've been using a magnet case on my Tab S3 since August of last year with zero issues. It is on every day 24/7. I only take about 2 hours of notes a day on average Monday-Friday and the rest of the time is spent with magnets engaged and case cover closed. No issues.
I used a bit of glue under the flaps of the case i have cut open the sealed them down.
I then added some electrician's tape just to cover it ( the tape makes it look a bit rougher than the cuts )
I have marked where the magnetic strips were removed in yellow.
It does fold into the stand option but isnt as secure as i would like it as magentics dont hold it in place.
I may use something to sort that out later
Pic's
https://imgur.com/a/Y3SltoB
nusratt said:
I've handled Fintie products before, and I like them. And although their cases offer some of the same garish patterns as mine, they at least also do offer some which are more staid. And even their version of the "Plum Blossom" pattern is lined in subdued grey (vs. bright pink).
More importantly... can you post some close-up pics to show what the "post-surgical" sites look like?
And... not to be intrusively personal, but why do you happen to have scalpels lying around?
Do you by any chance frequent the Whitechapel area, or do occasional barbering on Fleet Street?
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Ronin475 said:
I then added some electrician's tape just to cover it ( the tape makes it look a bit rougher than the cuts )
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1. Looking at the pic, I wondered, did you use the electrician's tape to smooth over the rough feel of the cut edges on the hand? And / or because the opposite sides of the cut couldn't be brought back together in a gap-less seam?
2. Also, from which side did you initiate the cutting? Superficially it looks like the inner and outer covers are two separate pieces of different materials, the inside matte and fabric-like, and the outside shiny plastic / TPU; but maybe the inner matte surface is merely a coating. Was there an inner core between them, maybe cardboard? I'm asking because I'm wondering if it would be possible to remove the magnets by cutting only from the inside, so that the outside never shows any sign of the alteration. I imagine that the magnets were held in place by some kind of adhesive.
3. Looking at the pic again, it occurs to me to ask: do the rubber bumpers on that case completely surround the tablet, or are they only on the corners? The pic makes it appear that either it's corners-only, or the corners project higher above the tablet edge than the bumper sides do.
aspexil said:
I've been using a magnet case on my Tab S3 since August of last year with zero issues... 2 hours of notes a day...
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I understand completely -- there are many people who report fortunate experiences like yours. It's just that there are so many who've had the opposite experience, that a lot of shoppers, in this forum and elsewhere, are bending over backwards to be "better safe than sorry".
btw, what case are you using?
To make the longest cut on the "outside" of the case i had to split it (like splitting a piece of cardbord) ,
the split is fairly easy , it gets a bit messy pulling out the magnetic strips that are glued in place so in some spots its a little rough depending how lucky you are. ( i would recomend breaking the magnetic into smaller bits as its easier to remove)
It doesnt feel rough to the touch or any thing and its mainly the central bit that was slightly rough you can see that in the pic.
For the magnetic strip closer to the screen i cut away from the smooth grey side of the case , this was slightly more tricky as i didnt want to poke thru to other side of case.
The central bit of the case is indeed carboard but as the magnets are glued in place there will be a little damage removing them.
The magnets in the plastic part of the case i used a metal spudger to pry them out
I added the tape as a layer of protection to stop any further splits etc
The bumpers are only on the edges are a hard plastic type of material.
The overall build of the case is "ok" not amazing but its a decent case for unde £10.
nusratt said:
1. Looking at the pic, I wondered, did you use the electrician's tape to smooth over the rough feel of the cut edges on the hand? And / or because the opposite sides of the cut couldn't be brought back together in a gap-less seam?
2. Also, from which side did you initiate the cutting? Superficially it looks like the inner and outer covers are two separate pieces of different materials, the inside matte and fabric-like, and the outside shiny plastic / TPU; but maybe the inner matte surface is merely a coating. Was there an inner core between them, maybe cardboard? I'm asking because I'm wondering if it would be possible to remove the magnets by cutting only from the inside, so that the outside never shows any sign of the alteration. I imagine that the magnets were held in place by some kind of adhesive.
3. Looking at the pic again, it occurs to me to ask: do the rubber bumpers on that case completely surround the tablet, or are they only on the corners? The pic makes it appear that either it's corners-only, or the corners project higher above the tablet edge than the bumper sides do.
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also forgot to mention the sleep wake function still works without the magnets in the case.
there is a stong magnet in the tablet where the spine of the case is.
So i think the small square of metal i left in the case is registered by the fluctuation in the device field and when the light sensor is covered/uncovered it sleeps/wakes.
Ronin475 said:
To make the longest cut on the "outside" of the case i had to split it (like splitting a piece of cardbord) ,
the split is fairly easy , it gets a bit messy pulling out the magnetic strips that are glued in place so in some spots its a little rough depending how lucky you are. ( i would recomend breaking the magnetic into smaller bits as its easier to remove)
It doesnt feel rough to the touch or any thing and its mainly the central bit that was slightly rough you can see that in the pic.
For the magnetic strip closer to the screen i cut away from the smooth grey side of the case , this was slightly more tricky as i didnt want to poke thru to other side of case.
The central bit of the case is indeed carboard but as the magnets are glued in place there will be a little damage removing them.
The magnets in the plastic part of the case i used a metal spudger to pry them out
I added the tape as a layer of protection to stop any further splits etc
The bumpers are only on the edges are a hard plastic type of material.
The overall build of the case is "ok" not amazing but its a decent case for unde £10.
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Ronin475 said:
also forgot to mention the sleep wake function still works without the magnets in the case.
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1. WTF?! Then what the hell is the purpose of all the other magnets you found and removed?
2. Damn. This is depressing news. I can't begin to tell you how many otherwise very desirable-seeming cases I looked at and ruled out simply on the assumption that "sleep/wake = magnet".
it appears the magnets mainly held the case closed an the other strip was used to secure the stand bit.
I double checked with a magnetic field app on my phone , not high tech but does pick up fields.
and magnets are gone and there is a small reading where that small metal or maybe chip is.
i have attached a small elastic ribbon so the stand works perfect now, may work on something for keeping the case closed .
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1. WTF?! Then what the hell is the purpose of all the other magnets you found and removed?
2. Damn. This is depressing news. I can't begin to tell you how many otherwise very desirable-seeming cases I looked at and ruled out simply on the assumption that "sleep/wake = magnet".
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