Okay I've been a little nervous to ask this in spite of the answers I may get, but I'm going to ask anyway. What exactly would I need to know to make my own ROM, tweaks, themes, hacks, and what not? I've taken 2 C++ courses although that was high school and 1 java course. I'm really interested in this, and if anyone who knows what there doing would take me under there wing to teach me. I thank anyone for any answer in advance.
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Okay I've been a little nervous to ask this in spite of the answers I may get, but I'm going to ask anyway. What exactly would I need to know to make my own ROM, tweaks, themes, hacks, and what not? I've taken 2 C++ courses although that was high school and 1 java course. I'm really interested in this, and if anyone who knows what there doing would take me under there wing to teach me. I thank anyone for any answer in advance.
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Well if you want to get started I would say the easiest way would be to get an aio like mine here (There are others as well). Get your PC setup so you can decompile and compile apks and jars. Once you have that setup, I would start by looking around in the folders that it decompiles. This will help you learn where things are and how the apks work.
If you want to do theming you would need to know xml, how to edit images, and knowing java is always a plus.
Once you know where things are and feel comfortable editing apks, Then I would start learning the other stuff. ROM making, mod making, and tweaking will all get easier if you understand how the phone works.
Hope that helps get you started. Let me know if I can help you out with anything.
Shoot me questions if they pop up, can't always get back right away but I'll always try to help. Its been said before and sounds cliche, but read up. And I mean ALL over the net. The amount you learn troubleshooting your own problems as they arise(error messages etc) are invaluable and unfortunately can't be taught.
But for the other stuff, hit most of us up and you'll find help. Think I can speak for he majority of us on that one.
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This is what I love about the xda community.... everyone so helpful I wish to build my own ROM someday too! I wanna take an android programming class but current college I'm attending doesn't offer it and I tried learning on my own but never could get android SDK or eclipse to install my old laptop.... gots me a way better Asus now and I always help with anything I know but that's simple stuff like making bootanimations, where stuff goes in the ROMs ( but I don't know how to make my own), I'm always experimenting with my build.prop and other tweaks til I soft brick and have to dirty flash my phone, I flash to different carriers, different prls, etc.... just simple stuff I'll gladly help. If asked I'll be a tester.... but I can't quit build my own rom
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Wish I could say the same I have reached out to many any never got a single response.
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Wish I could say the same I have reached out to many any never got a single response.
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U haven't found the right onea
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Wish I could say the same I have reached out to many any never got a single response.
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Google search will always be there for you when most needed
Ya googling only can take you so far. Not the same as an actual Mentor. If that were the case we wouldnt even have schools anymore we would just tell our kids. "Hey google it!" And educational systems would be pointless....
Thanks for all the advice! I really appreciate it, so when I do have questions I can't find the answers to I am happy to have people I can go to. Although I have to put off until I get my own laptop around Christmas... soo you won't be getting anything from me for a while lol
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If you need any help you can ask me. I'm always down to help someone out.
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Sorry if this is the wrong place for this post, seemed like the most sensible spot. I used to be involved in OS development back when 2.2 was brand new and shiny. I forget most of what I did, then.
I am looking for someone who would be making a Galaxy Nexus ROM (_obviously_). I know I have to be running a Linux distro (Will be using Ubuntu) and know how to install/configure/use Ubuntu/terminal. I'm also very technologically inclined, and learn very quickly. I am also willing to simply study before and after files, note the effects, and learn that way.
There's not a whole lot I won't do, and there's a whole lot I can be/am good for. I also have many contacts from the old Liquid E days that would be able to help with any potential issues that arise as well.
Thank you in advance,
Matthew/Harness.
Contact:
Email/MSN/Gtalk - r.matt.1992(at)gmail.com
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Sorry if this is the wrong place for this post, seemed like the most sensible spot. I used to be involved in OS development back when 2.2 was brand new and shiny. I forget most of what I did, then.
I am looking for someone who would be making a Galaxy Nexus ROM (_obviously_). I know I have to be running a Linux distro (Will be using Ubuntu) and know how to install/configure/use Ubuntu/terminal. I'm also very technologically inclined, and learn very quickly. I am also willing to simply study before and after files, note the effects, and learn that way.
There's not a whole lot I won't do, and there's a whole lot I can be/am good for. I also have many contacts from the old Liquid E days that would be able to help with any potential issues that arise as well.
Thank you in advance,
Matthew/Harness.
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Placeholder, tomorrow some message.
If you actually want to learn, I'd be more than willing to help with what I can.
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If you actually want to learn, I'd be more than willing to help with what I can.
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I was definitely about to recommend you.
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Placeholder, tomorrow some message.
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Looking forward to it.
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If you actually want to learn, I'd be more than willing to help with what I can.
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Absolutely I want to learn. Feel free to get in touch with me anytime.
i was wondering if anyone knows of a possible way to add the hold back button to kill the current app option like on cyanogenmod (its always been one of my favorite features)? if its possible or u know of another way to achieve the desired action could ya please head me in the right direction. thanks
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shameless bump
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last attempt before i let this Q float to the back page.....shameless bump
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last attempt before i let this Q float to the back page.....shameless bump
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Bumping your thread isnt going to make a reply come quicker, you do realize people read more than just the first page of threads?
But anyhow, the answer is no. "Hold back to kill" is a ROM specific tweak. It is hard coded into android source code by CyanogenMod. I have however had an idea for "hold back to kill" app where the app listens for a Hold search broadcast, then kills the foreground app. But until someone makes something like that. The only way to get Hold back to kill is by flashing a CM ROM.
wow i do appreciate your answer. it's nice to see someone adding a littke A to the Q that actually has knowledge on what i was speaking about. nobody else answered because they mostly had no idea what i was talking about. and not to start an argument but I've takin your bumps not needed approach for the few years ive been here and im not exaggerating when i tell you there were many that floated to a back page to sit forever. most peoples idea is that the further back the post is either there is no answer or its an answer there prolly not going to have the answer for since nobody else has by that point. but trust me i see your angle. thanks for your reply and im gonna keep researching on this because I'm almost positive it can be added, it's just how much work is going to be involved and can i do it lol. thanks
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It can be added. Ive got it on my list of mods that i want to get around to adding here. Its a mod that requires decompiling a couple of apk/jar files and editing the code. It is one of the few that haven't been added to any of our stock roms so ill probably bump it up the list a bit. We shall see.
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thanks doc, always get my answer when i see your name in the reply.
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This would be a great addition to stock and very much appreciated....
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It can be added. Ive got it on my list of mods that i want to get around to adding here. Its a mod that requires decompiling a couple of apk/jar files and editing the code. It is one of the few that haven't been added to any of our stock roms so ill probably bump it up the list a bit. We shall see.
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I dont think thats possible. Its a ROM source code tweak. As in the source code is changed. So far ive only heard of CM and MIUI Roms having this. Just google it, im sure if it was possible someone would have already done it. I mean it requires editing the complete layout of the settings window. Unless you just change a jar file to listen for the hold back and then have it kill it.
But if you know how to do it, can you share what files need to be edited? Ive seen this question pop up almost everywhere and even ROM devs say its only possible via kitchen. But hey you learn something new every day
I could swear ive seen it ported to other stock roms such as sense and tw. Been a few months since i last looked into it though. Gotta go to work so ill try to find the info for you later today.
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I could swear ive seen it ported to other stock roms such as sense and tw. Been a few months since i last looked into it though. Gotta go to work so ill try to find the info for you later today.
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It may have been ported. But they may have used a kitchen. Like I've seen stock ROMs have it but I've never seen a ROM without it get it added without cooking a new ROM. But I'll be hitting refresh awaiting the information! ^-^ thanks!
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Its always there in the JKay mods. I wonder how he does it though. I've been trying that for quite some time.
Hey I'm about to start a Sense 4.1 port and I was looking for some help. I know the sense 4 all people tried but i refuse to believe that it's impossible to port to the GS3. I've sent some PM's out to some respected developers but nobody has responded. I understand the basics but need more knowledge. So if you feel like contributing then by all means please do so. If you aren't a Sense fan but still understand how, your help is welcomed too. Just no negative people saying stuff like "why would you want Sense on this phone.You should have bought the Evo." Just trying to give back to the community. Thanks on advance
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I find it a nice port would love one of these ports I don't know android development but I do know basic programming
+1 to a sense port , I would love a sense port.
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I know there is a demand for it and our phones are more than capable of handling it. Ive seen it ported to lesser devices so Im amped to get this started. I just need someone with a little more knowledge about porting to chime in. I think my main issue that i dont understand is getting the kernel set up to work on our devices. Spread the word lets see if we can get this development going
There was a tread started before and closed because people was not helping and acting childish, the people that was working on it said the hell with it. They had a decent port it had problems but hell it worked. Good luck but people always flood these threads with stupid questions like why don't you just get a htc phone or use a different launcher .
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There was a tread started before and closed because people was not helping and acting childish, the people that was working on it said the hell with it. They had a decent port it had problems but hell it worked. Good luck but people always flood these threads with stupid questions like why don't you just get a htc phone or use a different launcher .
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Yea i know I've seen it get pretty ugly around here. My thing is if you don't like Htc Sense then don't download it. I know a lot of people that really want to see this port happen. That won't stop me from trying
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Yea i know I've seen it get pretty ugly around here. My thing is if you don't like Htc Sense then don't download it. I know a lot of people that really want to see this port happen. That won't stop me from trying
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Maybe you should get in touch with the guys that have already started that port project. Not sure what kind of trouble they ran into but their work might provide a nice heads start for you. Just be sure and give them some credit. I personally would love to see a Sense port not because I necessarily like sense but this is XDA and this is what we do! Good luck with this!
+1 on the Sense port, sense has a better integration with android than TW does. Though TW is good in its own way...
get in touch with the team developing the initial port, their major problem was that they didnt have a sprint GS3 to test directly.
That's a great idea you guys. I'll shoot them a PM so we can get this ball rolling.
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I'm not sure I'll be able to help. I know java / android programming, but have never messed with ROMs and such.
However I'd love this and if there is anything sort of simple that you would rather have someone else do, send it my way.
Also would probably donate for a working ROM! I love sense!
I know nothing about developing, but will test and give feedback.
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Idk if these are the same guys you guys are referring to but they have a port for the international version and have a poll to port to the sprint version. I'm sure they'd appreciate the help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1764005
Also id love to help out in anyway I can. I don't know much about java but I love to learn and also would be more than happy to be a tester and post logs and issues.
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That will be sickkkk. I love the sense camera its way better than the s3s thats for sure
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I would love to test I'm sorry I can't offer other help I'm no programmer but I'll test the hell out of your ROM lol
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Hey guys I'm coming from the EVO LTE side and saw this port I get my phone Monday ill see what I can do about getting u guys a port
I've started a sense port and if anyone is still interested I could use some help testing and what not. Just pm me if you're game.
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Anyone interested in porting this Rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2015525
Challenge accepted.
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Sac boy an I glad to see you. This porting is not easy. What's the status on Chubbz?? I PM'd him a while back about help.
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Sac boy an I glad to see you. This porting is not easy. What's the status on Chubbz?? I PM'd him a while back about help.
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Have you had any luck getting it to boot yet?
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First of all this is a project im looking for any help to get our devices to boot sense please refrain for telling me it is not possible that i sould have gotten an htc phone if i wanted sense. I wanna live in the xda way and develop for our phones which have better internal specs then the htc phones for our carrier. Also i would like to see our phones run diffident flavors of android. Please don't tell me its not possible i have a ics rom port in alpha already i've gotten to the boot animation and it locks up i have both the logcat and rom to prove it. Im looking for help within my forum to get it running.
Logcat http://d-h.st/iZr
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First of all this is a project im looking for any help to get our devices to boot sense please refrain for telling me it is not possible that i sould have gotten an htc phone if i wanted sense. I wanna live in the xda way and develop for our phones which have better internal specs then the htc phones for our carrier. Also i would like to see our phones run diffident flavors of android. Please don't tell me its not possible i have a ics rom port in alpha already i've gotten to the boot animation and it locks up i have both the logcat and rom to prove it. Im looking for help within my forum to get it running.
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So, what exactly do you need?
Any help im a complete noob on how to develop im learning as i go along see if someone can kinda help me kinda understand the logcat im honestly surprised ive gotten to this point.
Have you look the sense4all projet? There is already a rom working for the internationnal GS3 (SO DON'T FLASH THIS ROM). Maybe you can try to port that one.
Also our phone have the same processor than the canadian HTC One X, maybe you can go in that direction.
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Have you look the sense4all projet? There is already a rom working for the internationnal GS3 (SO DON'T FLASH THIS ROM). Maybe you can try to port that one.
Also our phone have the same processor than the canadian HTC One X, maybe you can go in that direction.
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Actually that is what i was waiting for. Then i got impatient so i thought to try my luck im actually using the att one x as a base same proccesor
If youre a "complete noob" as you stated, might not be the best idea to start with a project like this...just saying
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Lol if your a noob your not going to be able to port anything. Even with help
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Lol if your a noob your not going to be able to port anything. Even with help
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Cmon man. Everyone's gotta start somewhere. Let him try . Whoever decides to flash it should be smart enough to think before flashing. Nothing gets done by being pessimistic.
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Lol if your a noob your not going to be able to port anything. Even with help
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This.
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This.
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At least hes trying to do something relevant not like you bashing some new devs...
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And we wonder why new devs don't get far.. Seriously people, I remember when this forum was a place to get help, not flamed =/ Dang I feel old, and im only 21, lol
Truth might hurt, people. Honesty is the best way harsh or not. He should start some where else with stuff that's easier.
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This should help http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1249973/decompiling-dex-into-java-sourcecode
http://code.google.com/p/dex2jar/
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Truth might hurt, people. Honesty is the best way harsh or not. He should start some where else with stuff that's easier.
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If he feels up for it it might be a good idea we cheer him up ? Who knows what can happen ?
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Lol if your a noob your not going to be able to port anything. Even with help
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I'm sure Thomas Edison got some good laughs when talking about the light bulb too. You don't know him or know what he's capable of; nor will you ever find out with this attitude. I envy his will to learn, and to take on a big challenge like this. I don't envy, I even despise attitudes like this that try to put people down who are attempting to do great things. To OP: even if you do fail at this, with the attitude you have, you will do great things.
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I'm sure Thomas Edison got some good laughs when talking about the light bulb too. You don't know him or know what he's capable of; nor will you ever find out with this attitude. I envy his will to learn, and to take on a big challenge like this. I don't envy, I even despise attitudes like this that try to put people down who are attempting to do great things. To OP: even if you do fail at this, with the attitude you have, you will do great things.
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I agree. Even though I'm having some troubles with my own personal ROMs builds I haven't given up. I don't care what people say.
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Lol if your a noob your not going to be able to port anything. Even with help
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...prideful much?
One has gotta start somewhere, I started with ports.
To OP, try porting AOSP/AOKP ROMs from a similar device (like the other SGS3 variants). Those are way easier to port and will give you a chance to learn the basics.
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Op, talk to this guy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35161290
He's on the international version, but he has a WIP and its coming along, albeit slowly..
Also, here's a good guide to help get u started...episode 27 specifically...good luck bro!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25663972
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In the same way guys... There's a learning curve. It could have been approached differently. But speaking from the position as he stated that he is completely new to this... If I was a sherpa and someone who had spent their life on a couch says they're interested in rock climbing, I'm not going to say, 'awesome, next week when your equipment arrives go to mount Everest and have fun!' There are ways to train and become better at things. Would suggestions have been better than simply stating that it'd not go well... Yes. And coming here to help where there are experienced devs is good hopefully their guidance will be enough to get him on the right track with this project and if not maybe he can start out smaller and build to this project.
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I mean lets be realistic has sense ever been ported completly stable to a non htc device before? Dont go swimming in deep waters if you dont know how to, start off shallow then work your way up.
Being real about the situation might seem harsh but it is what it is......but if he does have some sort of coding skills than by all means do whatever
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I really want to make a custom rom, but first i need to learn the basics of the s3 and how the android operating system works. any help?
Open up a rom zip and take a look inside...see in what folders which files are
Check out xda-university too
Thanks for the advice. I am tired of not being able to do anything for my self. ive decided its time to step up and take chances.
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Thanks for the advice. I am tired of not being able to do anything for my self. ive decided its time to step up and take chances.
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No problem...if you need links to anything im probably your guy, I subscribe to all threads that I feel are important (content wise)
For example, this thread shows how to odex APKs (apps). Same method can be applied for odexing frameworks files
I love being self sufficient to my phone, but it's hard. I barely know anything so far.
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I really want to make a custom rom, but first i need to learn the basics of the s3 and how the android operating system works. any help?
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There is a whole thread by Dreamsforgotten on xda that will teach, guide and show you everything you need. For building roms and for theming.
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I am new too and can appreciate the idea of a thread such as this. Hopefully someone can send me links to an easy way to learn everything about android
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I am new too and can appreciate the idea of a thread such as this. Hopefully someone can send me links to an easy way to learn everything about android
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There is no "easy way" to learning android...
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Well I would like to reword that with easiest way to learn ansroid
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