[MOD REQUEST] Auto popup keyboard on desktop - Windows 8 Development and Hacking

Is there anyway to mod windows 8 so that when you are using a tablet and touch a text entry field in desktop mode the keyboard automatically pops up (even better if it auto closes when you hit enter)? This is the most annoying "feature" of Windows 8 in desktop mode, when using a touch device (tablet).

I second the motion.

This would be an excellent mod if someone would do it for us.
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it would be pretty sweet if someone could get the same type of auto-keyboard on desktop as in metro. it would remove 25% of my touch

I'm in for this. Even win7 has a popup feature when you put the cursor on a text box.

I might be mistaken, but I think in one of the betas the keyboard worked like that on my Acer W500, but not anymore...

SoundSurfer said:
I might be mistaken, but I think in one of the betas the keyboard worked like that on my Acer W500, but not anymore...
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Yes you are correct in one of the betas it did use to auto popup when you clicked in a text field I remember the same thing with my Samsung Slate 7 now its gone I was just wondering the same thing myself

ra2100 said:
Yes you are correct in one of the betas it did use to auto popup when you clicked in a text field I remember the same thing with my Samsung Slate 7 now its gone I was just wondering the same thing myself
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May this be one of that things that Microsoft disables from registry, but it's still accessible?

I'd be happy if I could get the behaviour from Windows 7 back where when I clicked on a text field there was a floating button for the keyboard next to the input.

Please... I already fixed ff w/ user chrome to make the url bar bigger and tablet friendly.
This is one of the last tweaks I need to do.
I'm sure if the feature can't be re-enabled someone can replicate launching the keyboard automatically with autohotkey?

Yes please. Can someone do this mid? Its really annoying to manually invoke and dismiss keyboard everytime in desktop mode

s_kates81 said:
Yes please. Can someone do this mid? Its really annoying to manually invoke and dismiss keyboard everytime in desktop mode
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Comfort Keys from http://www.comfort-software.com/ - works flawlessly but cost $20 which pisses me off to pay for something that MS should fix.

Someone over at tabletpcreview forum wrote a TIP caller that works pretty well. No auto-popup, but works much better than stock experience.
http://forum.tabletpcreview.com/windows-8/53956-trying-do-tabtip-caller.html

VTEChump said:
Someone over at tabletpcreview forum wrote a TIP caller that works pretty well. No auto-popup, but works much better than stock experience.
http://forum.tabletpcreview.com/windows-8/53956-trying-do-tabtip-caller.html
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Tried it and it's buggy - as long as it doesn't pop up automatically might as well use MS built-in one.

I second this request!

jonthe838 said:
I second this request!
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This lil bit of AutoIt code works pretty well for me to automatically pop up the keyboard..
It polls the mouse cursor every 750ms to see if the cursor is an i-beam, and if so then it launches the keyboard (TabTip.exe).
Code:
While 1
$cursor = MouseGetCursor()
If $cursor = 5 Then ShellExecute('"C:\Program Files\Common Files\microsoft shared\ink\TabTip.exe"')
Sleep(750)
WEnd
Simple, but seems to fulfill my immediate needs for now. Hope you find it useful as well.

Hmm, I'd never heard of autoit before. Unfortunately, it looks unlikely to run on Windows RT (at least without us getting our hands on the source...) so I wonder if there's a way to do it with one of Windows' several built-in scripting languages...

tj!2k7 said:
This lil bit of AutoIt code works pretty well for me to automatically pop up the keyboard..
It polls the mouse cursor every 750ms to see if the cursor is an i-beam, and if so then it launches the keyboard (TabTip.exe).
Code:
While 1
$cursor = MouseGetCursor()
If $cursor = 5 Then ShellExecute('"C:\Program Files\Common Files\microsoft shared\ink\TabTip.exe"')
Sleep(750)
WEnd
Simple, but seems to fulfill my immediate needs for now. Hope you find it useful as well.
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Wow - thanks for this! I'm not running RT (traded my Surface RT for a Samsung ATIIV running Win8 Pro that has similar goofy windows 8 issues. So I downloaded AutoIt, ran the script and viola, now my keyboard pops up just like in Windows 7. So to GoodaytoDie (and other devs) I hope you can find a way to port AutoIT to Win RT - it has already saved me many hours of frustration and I am going to donate to the AutoIt team.

docfreed said:
Wow - thanks for this! I'm not running RT (traded my Surface RT for a Samsung ATIIV running Win8 Pro that has similar goofy windows 8 issues. So I downloaded AutoIt, ran the script and viola, now my keyboard pops up just like in Windows 7. So to GoodaytoDie (and other devs) I hope you can find a way to port AutoIT to Win RT - it has already saved me many hours of frustration and I am going to donate to the AutoIt team.
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how did you get it to work? I've never used autoit before and couldn't get it to work so if you could just make a step by step guide for me hehe.
Would be great! Thanks

jonthe838 said:
how did you get it to work? I've never used autoit before and couldn't get it to work so if you could just make a step by step guide for me hehe.
Would be great! Thanks
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Just remember that I am running Win 8, not RT.. Anyway, I downloaded and installed AutoIt 3 from the AutoIt website (autoitscript.com). Then I copied tj!2k7's script into notepad, and named it keyboard.au3 ( saved as type *.txt but with the au3 extension). Then just right click on the au3 file, open with AutoIt and it will run the script - whenever you position the cursor in a text box, i.e., you see the cursor change to an I-beam, the keyboard will pop up - it's brilliant. Ther keyboard does not autopop down but I found if you hit the enter key it disappears.

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[MOD] Disable "Metro" (aka go back to Win7 taskbar style)

Some of you may have seen it on youtube/google/tech-sites, but i just wanted to show you guys how to disable this new "Metro", to be able to see the original "taskbar" as seen in Windows 7 (so you don't need to put effort into finding how to disable it)
Its as simple as making a Registry (regedit.exe) change.
This hack need's to be performed on each user (if u have multiple users under Win8), due the "HKEY" is "Current user".
Method 1:
Manual set:
Start "regedit.exe"
Navigate to: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer
- Set RPEnabled to "dword" value "0" (zero)
Method 2:
Auto set (DISABLE Metro) (save as ".reg" file):
Code:
REGEDIT4
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer]
"RPEnabled"=dword:0
Auto set (ENABLE (default)):
Code:
REGEDIT4
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer]
"RPEnabled"=dword:1
Method 3:
CMD set (DISABLE Metro):
Code:
reg add HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer /f /v RPEnabled /t REG_DWORD /d 0
CMD set (ENABLE (default)):
Code:
reg add HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer /f /v RPEnabled /t REG_DWORD /d 1
Method 4: (as ref posted by agnard):
>Administrator mode needed
CMD set (DISABLE Metro):
Code:
ren \Windows\System32\shsxs.dll shsxs_disable.dll
CMD set (ENABLE (default)):
Code:
ren \Windows\System32\shsxs_disable.dll shsxs.dll
> Last but not least, restart Win8.
- Oh, and i almost forgot: FIRST THREAD @ dev & hack!!
lol
But why? it's freaking sexy
btw isn't there an executable you can rename in /system32 to disable Metro?
Sexy if you use a tablet, otherwise I think it is useless
Thanks. BTW - the file should be saved as .reg not .bat
i personally like the new metro ui. i hated win8 at first but once i got the hang of it and learned how everything works... lets just say i formatted my hard drive and this is now my daily driver. i havent had any issues. everything works.
I don't really get why there is no normal setting to use the original taskbar layout as default. Working with the metro interface on a 27" desktop pc just feels as unnatural as using media center...
I dont see what you're doing here... there's a normal taskbar in win8 without doing any crazy reg hacks. just click on the desktop tile on the start page.
as far as I can see so far, metro ui is only there to replace the start menu, and some system programs (like control panel, etc.)
Sorry, but I just don't see it becoming popular in corporate environments and on desktops. It's the best interface I've ever seen on tablets though.
Volvados said:
Sorry, but I just don't see it becoming popular in corporate environments and on desktops. It's the best interface I've ever seen on tablets though.
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TOTALLY agree. though i dont know how much of real dev work will take place. Just a bit skeptical
Well this is a developer preview so developers can build their new metro apps.
This isn't meant to be used in offices as a primary productive system. The Metro UI might very well be disableable (is that even a word?) in the RTM.
Lemcott said:
I dont see what you're doing here... there's a normal taskbar in win8 without doing any crazy reg hacks. just click on the desktop tile on the start page.
as far as I can see so far, metro ui is only there to replace the start menu, and some system programs (like control panel, etc.)
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You need this hack to get the windows 7 start button to work like it should so you can quickly navigate your applications, otherwise the start button takes you back to the tile...and right now tiles are basically useless clumsy clutter links to applications...
and why can't you use the mouse to grab and move the tile screen is beyond me..you are forced to use the slide at the bottom of the screen
germanh said:
Thanks. BTW - the file should be saved as .reg not .bat
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Thanks, fixed.
planet_x69 said:
You need this hack to get the windows 7 start button to work like it should so you can quickly navigate your applications, otherwise the start button takes you back to the tile...and right now tiles are basically useless clumsy clutter links to applications...
and why can't you use the mouse to grab and move the tile screen is beyond me..you are forced to use the slide at the bottom of the screen
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Noticed this too. I know its a developer preview, but really m$? No dragging?
the twitter app on mines is not working. does anyone else have this problem? and is there a fix for this?
I think that having the metro UI in the current user is a great thing. That way for personal use you can have the metro UI but when you need mote business oriented use you've got a user profile set with the hack to disable it.
I think its a great preview and I really like it so far. Loving the no new drivers needed thing, unlike my last run'ins with windows x64 dev builds
A easy way to disable the new UI is to change a file in system32 folder:
give the file shsxs.dll in system32 a new name, like shsxs.bac.dll, and restart win8
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A easy way to disable the new UI is to change a file in system32 folder:
give the file shsxs.dll in system32 a new name, like shsxs.bac.dll, and restart win8
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I can confirm that on x64 version
Thx
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planet_x69 said:
You need this hack to get the windows 7 start button to work like it should so you can quickly navigate your applications, otherwise the start button takes you back to the tile...and right now tiles are basically useless clumsy clutter links to applications...
and why can't you use the mouse to grab and move the tile screen is beyond me..you are forced to use the slide at the bottom of the screen
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You actually don't need this hack for the feature you are describing.
If you press Start (or are already in the Metro UI), you can just begin typing and you will get a list of apps/settings as you would in the 'old' Start-menu.
Thanks it's great.
nothing like "hacking" the OS instead of learning how to use it properly lol

Chromium Beta

Anyone else give this a try? Design is one of the worst I've ever seen but tab swiping is smooth as silk.
Attach the xap if you have it, i'm curious
Ruwin said:
Attach the xap if you have it, i'm curious
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http://www.windowsphone.com/en-US/apps/e76acaa3-759f-4e37-81e5-f43dea7a8e26
It's in the Marketplace.
bmstrong said:
It's in the Marketplace.
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it's good for being in early stages.
How do they get away with calling this 'Chromium'? Don't think Google would be too happy.
CrownSeven said:
How do they get away with calling this 'Chromium'? Don't think Google would be too happy.
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Agree, it's really stupid or just a kind of "puffery". It's WebBrowser class (Pocket IE wrapper) based and far away from the real Chromium engine.
it's a good work
bmstrong said:
http://www.windowsphone.com/en-US/apps/e76acaa3-759f-4e37-81e5-f43dea7a8e26
It's in the Marketplace.
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For i don't know what reason i couldn't find it from the phone, only when i searched the market form the desktop. But yeah, it works now.
First thing. The design is really poor, the page view area is small, the loading is pretty slow. But the worst thing is the keyboard that opens above some option buttons. If you type fast and without looking at the keyboard, you might push the buttons below instead of space. I know i did.
Second thing. I hate the name. It has nothing to do with Chromium.
Third thing. The swipe to switch tabs is interesting, but the way the tabs are displayed eats too much screen real estate.
Fourth thing. This are just my opinions.
good app for the development stage
please attache xap file here.
Xap
Here is the XAP file - this is the latest build, I have not updated the marketplace version yet.
Still curious - why did you call your app "Chromium"?
P.S. BTW, better to move this thread to Windows Phone 7 Apps and Games, ask mods.
Renamed
It has been renamed to Kromi, app id is: eea60df6-faa9-4323-af06-774259cd6825
Not sure how to find it with the app id, but searching for Kromi yields no results...
The Internet Explorer is better than "Chromium".
It´s faster and looks better.
Please make it look better
Opera Mobile is nice and for me the only alternative
I think this app is in Bazaar now.
It's now bad for a beta, can fullscreen the browser to hide the weird tab interface, and tab switching is the best I have seen on WP7.
There is no bookmark or homepage setting as of yet though, and you cannot press to open context menu (such as open in new tab) but it's still one of the best WP7 browsers around
Is this the same as the one available in bazaar?

[Guide] Activate Windows 8 Permanently

UPDATE: Personalization does NOT work in METRO. Everything works flawlessly and I tend to stay in desktop mode so I didn't realize this. DESKTOP MODE CAN BE PERSONALIZED. This still gives you enables everything I wanted so I don't see the problem. My metro background doesn't matter to me. I can also just install a win7 start menu, but again I have no issues and this works flawlessly.
A tool called "Windows 8 Activator For Build 9200 (Sep 2012)" (Google it, LINK BELOW) will permanently activate Windows 8. Specifically the latest build. Just run it and follow the simple instructions.
MOD EDIT: WAREZ LINK REMOVED
atrix4g18 said:
Let me know if we can't post this guide even though it is just providing information and no links to anything.
A tool called "Windows 8 Activator For Build 9200 (Sep 2012)" (Google it, LINK BELOW) will permanently activate Windows 8. Specifically the latest build. Just run it and follow the simple instructions.
If this doesn't comply with forum rules let me know. There is another thread describing how to remove activation watermark and notification, this does the same thing but actually removes it instead of hiding it.
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The comments seem to be all over the place, I don't see definite proof it will work.
Isn't this classed as warez and is completely banned by xda, why would you want to steal windows 8 anyway? The upgrades only like £20 & I've tried the rtm on a friends pc, its awesome!
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eZaCx said:
The comments seem to be all over the place, I don't see definite proof it will work.
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idk what to say. I'm no expert tell me a way to show you that my windows 8 copy is fully activated and I'll show you. It worked perfect you dont't need anything complicated. It opens command prompt and works.
scaryshark said:
Isn't this classed as warez and is completely banned by xda, why would you want to steal windows 8 anyway? The upgrades only like £20 & I've tried the rtm on a friends pc, its awesome!
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Understood. However for people who want to use all the features so they download the newest build (9200) but they run into activation watermarks and notifications. When Windows 8 comes out (October 26th) aka a long time from know, I will most likely buy a licence if not a Surface.
For now however this works. This gives you Windows 8 as it will be on October 26th. working perfectly. I have it on my Acer Aspire One 722 netbook and it works flawlessly AMD has a consumer driver preview for Windows 8 and everything runs smooth.
Apparently this still won't let you personalize. OP pm me plz.
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Apparently this still won't let you personalize. OP pm me plz.
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What do people mean "won't let your personalize."? Is there something I am missing?
Also OP, how do you know it was permanently installed, and not 90/180 days?
>Isn't this classed as warez
No, it's classified as malware, as in "let's infect all the dumb pirates desperate for keys". Kiddies need to learn about social engineering at some point, and this is a good time as any.
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Apparently this still won't let you personalize. OP pm me plz.
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Same problem here, please contact me if you found a solution.
it doesn't let you personalize because Win8 isn't really activated, even though the messages tell you it is. The system files have been tempered with. Read more on MDL about this. It has been shown many times that it fakes activation.
http://forums.mydigitallife.info/th...if-any/page466?p=630762&viewfull=1#post630762
if you do a sfc /scannow and reboot you will see that your system is not activated. If you feel comfortable with it you can keep the files, however you need to realize that you are in fact not activated.
(to find out whether personalization works or not, got to the metro screen, move mouse bottom right corner to open settings in the charm bar, at the bottom you see Change PC settings, try to personalize Lock screen, start screen, account picture - if you are activated you have no problems here, if you are not it's likely greyed out)
best solution to get activated at the moment is to wait for a KMS server or wait until Oct26 to purchase it. You can try to register a PC you may purchase or already purchased here and hope that you only have to pay $15 when it comes out (for a PC you haven't actually purchased). It may or may not work. Many believe that MS won't be able to check that many registered PCs to see if these have actually been recently purchased. We will see.
good luck
eZaCx said:
What do people mean "won't let your personalize."? Is there something I am missing?
Also OP, how do you know it was permanently installed, and not 90/180 days?
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Windows, not the program confirmed it was permanently activated. This is not kms... this is all done locally.
e.mote said:
>Isn't this classed as warez
No, it's classified as malware, as in "let's infect all the dumb pirates desperate for keys". Kiddies need to learn about social engineering at some point, and this is a good time as any.
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484 thanks? And you are that ignorant? Please grow up. This requires build 9200. Not the consumer version and it works flawlessly.
9200 build, is it a final version ?
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derausgewanderte said:
it doesn't let you personalize because Win8 isn't really activated, even though the messages tell you it is. The system files have been tempered with. Read more on MDL about this. It has been shown many times that it fakes activation.
http://forums.mydigitallife.info/th...if-any/page466?p=630762&viewfull=1#post630762
if you do a sfc /scannow and reboot you will see that your system is not activated. If you feel comfortable with it you can keep the files, however you need to realize that you are in fact not activated.
(to find out whether personalization works or not, got to the metro screen, move mouse bottom right corner to open settings in the charm bar, at the bottom you see Change PC settings, try to personalize Lock screen, start screen, account picture - if you are activated you have no problems here, if you are not it's likely greyed out)
best solution to get activated at the moment is to wait for a KMS server or wait until Oct26 to purchase it. You can try to register a PC you may purchase or already purchased here and hope that you only have to pay $15 when it comes out (for a PC you haven't actually purchased). It may or may not work. Many believe that MS won't be able to check that many registered PCs to see if these have actually been recently purchased. We will see.
good luck
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Interesting. I am not losing any functionality however so can you explain more? I don't see that personalization menu but I can personalize themes and stuff exactly like windows 8. Games work, net framework is functioning so I don't see what I'm missing out on...
UPDATE: Personalization does NOT work in METRO. Everything works flawlessly and I tend to stay in desktop mode so I didn't realize this. DESKTOP MODE CAN BE PERSONALIZED. This still gives you enables everything I wanted so I don't see the problem. My metro background doesn't matter to me. I can also just install a win7 start menu, but again I have no issues and this works flawlessly.
atrix4g18 said:
UPDATE: Personalization does NOT work in METRO. Everything works flawlessly and I tend to stay in desktop mode so I didn't realize this. DESKTOP MODE CAN BE PERSONALIZED. This still gives you enables everything I wanted so I don't see the problem. My metro background doesn't matter to me. I can also just install a win7 start menu, but again I have no issues and this works flawlessly.
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the more important point is that you are not activated. System files have been replaced and sooner than later with a Windows Update these files will be fixed. Just letting you know and that you are aware of it. The system "fakes" activation - period. It spoofs some strings and flips some "switches" to make things appear that you are activated when in fact you are not.
You can do everything else without Win8 activation as well and use the system forever. You have the watermark and a reminder to activate. You can remove the watermark and activation reminder with the remover somebody made . However, that patch will not report that you are activated, it will only remove watermark and bypass activation message. Your OP reports on a nasty (not only my opinion) patch that replaces some system files that actually fake activation. You should at least change the statement that it will permanently activate Windows8, this is not true and has been proven to be fake (see MDL posts).
I personally don't like patches that replace system files that I am not aware of and that claim to give you activation when in fact it replaces text within dll's that fool you. If you want to be informed on how to activate Win8 I suggest reading the MDL forum about Win8 activation.
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484 thanks? And you are that ignorant? Please grow up. This requires build 9200. Not the consumer version and it works flawlessly.
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as much as I don't like his attitude, he is correct that it is malware.
It is not ACTIVATED! I downloaded to try and downloaded Microsoft something. I forget what its called but it checks for stuff on your computer that is not activated and Windows 8 was on there and said Windows 8 is not genuine. SO there you go.
I did manage to activate it permanently though by getting a serial number off a youtube vid and activate via UK Microsoft number and worked WITH personalize working!!!!
THIS IS ILLEGAL. DO NOT POST CRACKS FOR ACTIVATING WINDOWS.

[APP] Lemon v1.3.0.1

Lemon
MODERN BROWSING
FEATURED
Massive Overhaul - completely rewritten to optimize the code and unify the overall interface
OTA Updates - updates require little to no user interaction
Security - hide and lock the browser with the touch of a button
Privacy - browsing history is only stored locally and can even be automatically deleted on exit
Auto Complete - suggests words depending on your history
Screenshot - nothing special, but you may take HD screenshots right within the browser
Notepad - notes that save automagically
Open Source - the source has now been released
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NEW
Privileges Fixed - no longer runs needs to run in administrator mode thanks to @SixSixSevenSeven
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BUGS
Outdated Browser Component - this browser is based off IE7 on some computers
Mishandles Links - links that open in a new window or tab will most likely open in your default browser
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Lemon has been abandoned for quite some time now and I have removed the screenshots and download links. I am considering coming back to this project in the near future when I have time to put Windows on my MacBook. Until then, however, you may play with the source.
Source // Website
Maybe post some screenshots, or possibly a download?
netham45 said:
Maybe post some screenshots, or possibly a download?
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Thank you for the recommendations Just uploaded 3 screenshots and added a download link towards the bottom.
Nice start. No go on RT.
cx1 said:
Nice start. No go on RT.
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I wonder why this is not working on the RT.. I wish I had this device to test some things on. Anyways, this build was focused on 4.0 .NET framework made in visual studio 2012 for windows 8 Desktop. Thanks for trying.
EDIT: Problem is with the installer, download the ZIP below it and use that. I will try to find a fix for the installer. Sorry for the inconvenience.
mellowdev said:
I wonder why this is not working on the RT.. I wish I had this device to test some things on. Anyways, this build was focused on 4.0 .NET framework made in visual studio 2012 for windows 8 Desktop. Thanks for trying.
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Try targeting 4.5 for Windows RT.
netham45 said:
Try targeting 4.5 for Windows RT.
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Just updated to .NET 4.5
Nope will not run on RT unless I'm doing something wrong?
THEBIG360 said:
Nope will not run on RT unless I'm doing something wrong?
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hmm, any errors being displayed? Or just not opening?
EDIT: Problem is with the installer, download the ZIP below it and use that. I will try to find a fix for the installer. Sorry for the inconvenience.
You would need to target "Any CPU" in the .NET code, and recompile any third-party x86 libraries that you are using to target ARM, and it would probably work then. Most (although not all) of the system libraries on Win8 are also on Windows RT, and (at least in the case of .NET libraries), the ones that aren't can sometimes be brought over from a Win8 box anyhow.
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You would need to target "Any CPU" in the .NET code, and recompile any third-party x86 libraries that you are using to target ARM, and it would probably work then. Most (although not all) of the system libraries on Win8 are also on Windows RT, and (at least in the case of .NET libraries), the ones that aren't can sometimes be brought over from a Win8 box anyhow.
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At the moment, I am trying to get geckoFX 15 and xulrunner 19 added to the project so I do not have to use the default WebBrowser component given in Visual Studio. If you would like, I could send you the source and maybe you could help porting to Windows RT and adding geckoFX? Btw after v1.0 this will be Open Source to all Thanks for all the support guys.
Works now thanks, scrolling is a little hitchy how ever its a great start. On another note would it be possible to make the onscreen keyboard auto pop up?
Will the flash be optimized, the browser is really fast. Its just the flash side of things that is buggy.
Seems to bypass the Flash whitelist on Windows RT. That's quite handy.
Re: [APP] Lemon Browser v0.9.7.3
I can surely attempt the auto pop up on screen keyboard, also the glitchy scrolling will be fixed soon. Thanks
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Just FYI: a web browser requiring Administrator to run is absolutely unacceptable. Browsers should run with extremely limited permissions (lower than standard user, ideally) rather than elevated permissions. I fixed this by hand-editing the .EXE file's embedded manifest to run AsInvoker (rather than RequireAdministrator). You should change the manifest in VS. Preferably, the whole thing would run in a low-IL sandbox the way IE does, and/or use some other sandboxing technique.
Also, there's little reason, especially for RT-targeted builds, to use Debug unless you include the source files and expect people to use them when reporting bugs. Release builds are typically smaller and faster.
Finally, could you get this to use a somewhat less awful rendering engine than IE7? I don't mind using Trident in general, but IE7 is archaic and awful. How do you justify "faster than Chrome" on a browser that can't even pass Acid2, much less run a modern speed benchmark? Gecko would be awesome, though I don't believe anybody has managed to port it to RT yet so that would be x86-only at first.
There are other things I'd like to see, ranging from simple UI conventions (double-clicking the tab bar, tapping Alt to show the menu bar, etc.) to some significant security issues (loading mixed content - that is, HTTP content on an HTTPS site - is a potentially serious risk).
Re: [APP] Lemon Browser v0.9.7.3
I appreciate the feedback, about the debug, i honestly did not even think about that, its just much faster to update using the debug folder. I will make it the release build next time. Next - about the admin permissions - Unfortunately this is needed to enable the temporary download of version.txt (allows OTA updates). And I was not planning on targeting the RT at all. I simply made this on my windows 8 laptop and released to the public for however they would like. I am now working on a 3D FPS though and will be releasing the code to this very shortly. And for the IE7 subject, I tried using firefox component but it does not allow the "LoadComplete" sub. Simply put, I do not know how to do 'if web page loaded' do this. I need this feature so i can load favicons etc. Please understand that this was made < 1 week ago. I highly appreciate all the comments though because I can not even begin testing all of these. Plus with school and other activities I do not expext this to be a huge project. Just simply a fun project (focused on gui) to add to my projects. Thanks again
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No worries on the Debug/Release, just a tip.
The admin thing, though... that's a serious problem. If the problem is just downloading a file, download it to the local application data folder instead of the install directory. If auto-updating is desired, make a separate updater that runs as Admin, and have the browser launch the updater program when it detects an update.
That said, though, admin is only needed if the browser is "installed" to a location where Admin is required to write. Programs installed in (for example) the user profile don't require this. In fact, on machines where the user *can't* get Admin (think about computers at a school, library, or office), the fact that it can install and run without requiring admin is a major advantage.
I understand that this is a side project for you, and I applaud you for hobby programming and sharing it with us, that's fantastic to see. I also do quite like the GUI, although I find it a bit bare-bones at the moment. Additionally, you getting it to work on RT is fantastic. However... I cannot in good conscience recommend using a web browser that sets the state of environment security back by nearly seven years. The web is an extremely hostile "place" and we've learned many lessons over the years. one of the critical ones is that web browsers are simply too easy to attack for them to be trusted; the only safe way to use one is to assume it will be compromised, and run it in a suitable contained environment. Microsoft did his with the IE7 Protected Mode on Vista betas in 2006, but even on XP it was possible to run IE as a non-Admin.
Re: [APP] Lemon Browser v0.9.7.3
I will admit chrome will always be my favorite browser Just wanted to throw something visually appealing together though after seeing all the horribly designed ones on youtube lol. If anyone would like the source just email me. The code is (slightly cluttered) but OCD friendly. everything labeled and named properly. If someone would like the source, i recommend also downloading the android holo icons from their site. That is what I am currently using and this allows identical pre-made light / dark icons.
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Hello !
really thank for this build ! :good:
A question:
Can you integrate a download manager which allow us to download files with screen off but which avoid the complet stand-by state of the tablet during the download ?
Because with IE it's impossible to download something with the Surface screen OFF.
It could be a really cool feature, and the only browser which allow that ! :highfive:
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Oh......
Your browser yet intagrate this feature !
Cool... Now I can download big files with screen Off !
I love you
samco08 said:
Hello !
really thank for this build ! :good:
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Cool... Now I can download big files with screen Off !
I love you
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Thanks! I appreciate that aha. Major update (kinda lol) will be released soon. Have to work on Mango Tools first (I might toss a thread up on this tool) but this can be found on my site mellowdev.net It just allows you to easily perform ADB commands on android phone. Anyways right after this I will work on v0.9.8! Hoping to add lots of cool, unique features to give this browser an edge. I know that speed means a lot and I have received many complaints on using the IE7 component. However my focus at the moment is to add features. Web browsing for most is just type in words and search. I want this to be so much more. So anyways aha thanks again. Love the support here!

Bluetooth Mouse functionality questions

For those of you with the 2014 edition who have used a bluetooth mouse, what does the right click do?
Hey all,
I posted the following question on another thread about a specific bluetooth mouse, and didn't get a response so I figured I'd give it another try with a general post.
I use my samsung devices (Galaxy S1, Tab 10 v1, Note 10 2012 edition, and lately an S4) for connecting to work using the citrix thin client. (In addition to all the other things that make the samsung devices great)
One of the problems I've had since samsung moved to jellybean and beyond is the mouse support. Ice cream and prior, when using a bt mouse, the right click seemed to be ignored by the os, or didn't do anything different than the left click unless you were in a app that supported it. Specifically, passing on a right click command in remote desktop to the session.
After JB, the right click on a mouse seems to have been mapped at the OS level to the 'back' function. This makes using a samsung android device as my thin terminal very difficult, as you still need right click on a lot of standard desktop apps. When I'm connected to my remote desktop, and use the right-click the applications prompts to exit. I don't think the right click ever even gets passed along.
(If you want to know irony, pre JB the mouse worked fine, but CTRL and ALT keypresses were ignored by the Os. try going without easy cut and paste for a day when you work with spreadsheets a lot. )
Anyway, my question is, for those of you with the 2014 edition who have used a bluetooth mouse, what does the right click do?
I'm sending in my 2012 edition to amazon for a trade in, and I'm seriously thinking about getting the 2014 10 or the new 12.2 monster, but if the 12.2 is going to be $1k, I might as well go with a surface pro device for now.
If you're still reading, thanks, I know I've gone on a bit. I've struggled with this issue for a while and it makes it very difficult for me to travel lightly. I can use my android devices in a pinch, but man does it drive me nuts when I need to right click on something and can't Try it sometime. You'll throw your mouse across the godderned room. If you happen to know of any other workarounds for this issue, feel free to make my day.
Right click brings me back, it is annoying when I'm browsing the Web and I want to open a link in a new tab.
I do use "jump" for rdp and it does pass the right click through the session. I have "pocket cloud" as well if you would like me to check that as well.
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Right click brings me back, it is annoying when I'm browsing the Web and I want to open a link in a new tab.
I do use "jump" for rdp and it does pass the right click through the session. I have "pocket cloud" as well if you would like me to check that as well.
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Thank you, unfortunately I don't have a choice for my remote desktop client as it's a corporate thing. So it appears that the jump client you are using is blocking that default function and forcing the right click.. interesting. I would be interested to know if pocket cloud does the same, but only anecdotally.
I hate the 'back' functionality of google's mouse support. I cannot find any way to adjust it. Heck, turning it off would be an improvement.

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