is there anyway to lock this phone so when its in your pocket and you're jamming out to some tunes, the screen doesnt turn on or the volume doesnt change? I've had this phone unlock it self and its beyond annoying. Also the screen will be off, phone locked, and if i get an email or text or what ever, the screen comes on every time. It didnt bother me at first but its starting to get to me now.
Tell me about it. My Note 1 pocket dialed 911 recently; I noticed a stern voicemail an hour later telling me if it was a real emergency to dial back. For those who don't know, when you use a PIN lock, an "emergency dial" button shows up, and one swipe and a tap in the right place can dial 911 (the Note 2 / JellyBean helps by not having "911" as a single-tap choice).
Anyway, couple things you can try. The flip screen protector (from Samsung) will prevent inadvertent screen presses while in a pocket. It works very well, though I personally don't really like having to flip open a cover on top of a phone this size.
It might be possible to use another SMS app like Handcent that won't turn the screen on when you get a text, but I haven't verified that. I haven't figured out how to prevent the screen from lighting up when a text comes in using the stock app, but the flip cover would prevent any screen taps from happening when it does.
I tried a proximity lock (turns screen off when prox sensor is activated), which worked, but there is some odd behavior. When you get a text and the screen kicks on, the proximity sensor app doesn't know you want the phone to go back to sleep, so I think it prevents deep sleep after that (battery drain?). And it also interferes with the phone's ability to use the proximity sensor during phone calls, so after the first phone call and subsequent proximity lock, it no longer works at all during calls until the service is restarted. You might experiment with these though. There's one called "ProximityService 2.1" (Google it since it was released in a Droid forum IIRC) and others are available in the market.
No software tips on the volume buttons, but if you get a TPU style case the cutouts will make them less likely to get pressed. I wish they were recessed just a little more or harder to press. I don't like the TPU cases because they add bulk to the phone.
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Hi,
I'm using an original ROM for TP2 with Manilla 2.1.38158.2 (as shown in Settings | About).
AFAIK this version should include the "in-call curtain" functionality, on which the call buttons are locked during a call. However, I see no sign for this anywhere.
Does anyone have an idea how this feature can be turned on, or how do I add it?
The curtain is unnecessary. Your device as a proximity sensor that turns off your display when you hold you face it. You don't need the curtain to lock the buttons. When you move the device away from your face, you probably want to use the touch screen so it turns back on.
I usually talk using a Bluetooth headset while the device is kept in my bag or pocket. The proximity sensor should theoretically detect that the device is covered and keep the screen off, but it often fails to do so, allowing random buttons to get pressed.
S2U2 doesn't solve this either, as it keeps the device unlocked during phone calls. There's TouchLockPro, but I don't like the way it works.
Have you tried CSDEVCTRL? I recall it allows you to lock the device during and after a call.
Yes, I found it in one of the forums here a couple of weeks ago. For some reason it didn't keep the device locked during calls, though specifically configured to do so. I haven't looked deeper into that, since I thought that the supposedly built-in curtain would do.
BTW, a simple test shows that the proximity sensor is completely useless for this scenario. I put a small object on the sensor, locked the phone and turned it off. I then called it from another phone and answered using the Bluetooth headset. Although the screen was blocked with an object, it was completely unlocked and could be pressed. The proximity sensor turned the screen off only if a movement was detected towards the screen, and not when something was already blocking the screen.
I repeated this test several times with the phone in a bag. I locked it, called, answered using the Bluetooth headset and tried to press against it from outside the bag. In every single time on-screen buttons got pressed.
As a matter of fact, the TP2 is way worse than the original TP in this sense. In my previous TP I could answer a call using the headset, take out the phone (carefully so it won't hang up by a screen press), lock it again and put it back in the bag/pocket. Now with the TP2 the proximity sensor wakes up the device unexpectedly, so I can never keep it inside anything during a call.
There is a shareware Pocket Shield which provides a screen curtain. You may have a try for your TP2 at this link:
http://pocketshield.netserver01.com/download.htm
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Hi,
I'm using an original ROM for TP2 with Manilla 2.1.38158.2 (as shown in Settings | About).
AFAIK this version should include the "in-call curtain" functionality, on which the call buttons are locked during a call. However, I see no sign for this anywhere.
Does anyone have an idea how this feature can be turned on, or how do I add it?
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I tried installing the InCallCurtain from my Touch Pro ROM and it does not work with the TP2. It is a different dialer so the calls for the curtain may not be in there.
My phone has no problem turning itself off when it gets near my face. Why would you want a call curtain?
Kloc said:
My phone has no problem turning itself off when it gets near my face. Why would you want a call curtain?
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Did you read the thread ?!
Thanks Angler, I just tested Pocket Shield. I must say I like the progress of this program since the last time I tried it.
I won't use it as a general lock utility because of a severe issue: for some reason my Bluetooth headset loses the ability to answer calls while it's locked. I click the headset button, the ring sound moves to the headset, and the call is not picked up.
I'm thinking about only using its curtain feature - use only the protection during phone calls without locking. This seems to work, however PocketShield locks my device whenever it powers on and I can't find a way to cancel that without completely turning it off. Any ideas here?
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BTW, a simple test shows that the proximity sensor is completely useless for this scenario.
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Prox sensors come in different types. They aren't all configured to turn off "when covered" by just anything. Since the primary purpose is to save screen power when held against your face, it may well be technically designed to detect things that can conduct electricity, like you. If you're curious about it, as I am, next time you test it, cover the prox sensor with your thumb.
If that doesn't work, I recommend on second test. Just because there is a prox sensor doesn't mean that HTC is using only that for turning off the screen. In order to avoid accidentally turning it off while you're trying to use it, which would be annoying, they might be using the accelerometer to detect whether it's being held like a phone or not, and not turning it off if it isn't. Test two is to hold it in a position at an angle as if you would if you were talking on it, and hold your thumb over the prox sensor.
I don't have my TP2 yet, that's why I haven't tried it myself. If you're already on to your current solution and don't want to I understand, but if you do, I'd be curious as to your results.
fortunz said:
Prox sensors come in different types. They aren't all configured to turn off "when covered" by just anything. Since the primary purpose is to save screen power when held against your face, it may well be technically designed to detect things that can conduct electricity, like you. If you're curious about it, as I am, next time you test it, cover the prox sensor with your thumb.
If that doesn't work, I recommend on second test. Just because there is a prox sensor doesn't mean that HTC is using only that for turning off the screen. In order to avoid accidentally turning it off while you're trying to use it, which would be annoying, they might be using the accelerometer to detect whether it's being held like a phone or not, and not turning it off if it isn't. Test two is to hold it in a position at an angle as if you would if you were talking on it, and hold your thumb over the prox sensor.
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Tested that with some objects and with my hand. Same results. Even with the phone being held vertically like I'm talking with it, the screen won't turn off if it was covered before the call. When removing the hand/object from the proximity sensor and covering it again - the screen turns off immediately.
Maybe this is not a limitation of the sensor but a simple programmed behavior. If so, perhaps it can be patched... <evil grin>
Update. Under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Proximity there are 3 keys: ProximityDetectStatus, ProximitySensorOn, UnexpectedWakeup.
The first key is updated live by whatever the sensor detects. I now know for sure that the sensor continously knows if there's something on top - the dialer behavior is programmed.
I'm not sure what the other keys do. ProximitySensorOn was set to 0 on my registry and now when it's 1 I see no difference. Gotta go, will continue with that later.
Switching the Proximity Sensor off...?!
erezshermer said:
Update. Under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Proximity there are 3 keys: ProximityDetectStatus, ProximitySensorOn, UnexpectedWakeup.
The first key is updated live by whatever the sensor detects.... I'm not sure what the other keys do. ProximitySensorOn was set to 0 on my registry and now when it's 1 I see no difference.
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Although I was looking for other reasons -- see below -- I get the same result; & even when you do change ProximitySensorOn to 1, it doesn't survive a soft reset: simply reverting to 0....
What I was looking for was some way of disabling the Proximity Sensor (PS) altogether: because (i) I'm deaf, & I therefore Bluetooth all calls directly to my 'hearing instruments'; & (ii) I've just bought a case which covers the darned thing (meaning the PS) up, permanently locking the touch-screen when it's on! (Aargh.)
Having spent the last couple of hours (plus) searching the TP2 forums on here (& a related one on PPC Geeks...), I've discovered that: (i) lots of people are having PS-related problems; (ii) some of these problems are to do with TouchFLO 3D; (iii) some may be related to various forms of screen-locking; (iv) some may even be caused by other tweaks or hacks we've carried out; & -- last, but not least, as lots of other proud TP2 owners have bought similar cases -- (v) I appear to be the only one having this particular problem (...probably caused by (iv)?)!
It's as if my particular sensor thinks my ear is permanently glued to the screen... -- I can operate all the buttons & the keyboard; but the screen (even though I can turn it on with the power switch) just will not respond while the case is attached (& therefore covering the sensor...).
If anyone has any ideas -- apart from drilling a hole in the case, somewhere (randomly) to the left of the HTC logo... -- please let me know!
Thank you for reading...
- $.
PS: I have a UK-spec., unbranded, GSM Touch Pro2 (...not that this seems to make any difference); & I've already tried turning off any locks & PINs (& changing their duration), as well as the owner information screen....
Forget the Curtain.
This enables your proximity sensor even when you are using your BT
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Forget the Curtain.
This enables your proximity sensor even when you are using your BT
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What is this CAB doing? Because I am also interested in adding support by the Proximity Sensor in TouchLockPro. So how can I start programmatically the proximity sensor? Just changing a registry key
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Forget the Curtain.
This enables your proximity sensor even when you are using your BT
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It works 。Thanks
Has anyone noticed their phone likes to turn itself on during phone calls as the phone touches your head?
I thought that could be fixed with Advanced Configuration Tool and these options:
◦Phone sleep during call
◦Fast sleep during call
But they both are gone. They were there on my Kaiser. Any ideas?
It's supposed to turn off due to the proximity sensor. I'm using a T-Mobile USA TP2 and it turns off as it touches my ear. One way you can test this, if you haven't already, is to call a phone, then as it is in progress, lay the phone with the screen up, and put your finger across the top of the facade of the phone (cover the top area where the earpiece is). When I do that, in order to replicate my ear towards the phone, the proximity sensor blanks the screen.
As for the AC tool settings you mentioned, I've never touched those, so mine are on the default settings.
Hey, wow! You're right! When the device is against my ear, the display is out. As soon as I pull it away, even slightly, it turns it on!
I'm simple, I know. My wife tells me that all the time.
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Hey, wow! You're right! When the device is against my ear, the display is out. As soon as I pull it away, even slightly, it turns it on!
I'm simple, I know. My wife tells me that all the time.
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It's okay, when I first got my TP2, I encountered the same thing you thought was a problem. Then I saw a video online demonstrating proximity sensors and the guy on the video put his finger along the top/speaker area of the device and the screen turned off. I replicated his actions on my TP2 and realized that the proximity sensor activates when something is touching it or gets fairly close to it. BTW, we're all simple; we just excel in different ways!
LOL, me and the wife learning this stuff too. Hey, heres another (which i just created a post for), GO rub a magnet on the face of the phone while the screen is OFF, right over the tiny keypad. If you have a soft case with magnet in the flat, go see the funky result
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LOL, me and the wife learning this stuff too. Hey, heres another (which i just created a post for), GO rub a magnet on the face of the phone while the screen is OFF, right over the tiny keypad. If you have a soft case with magnet in the flat, go see the funky result
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Well since I'm already here and I don't want to search for that post (sorry to the Mods since this is irrelevant for this thread), I can answer that too. It's already a well-known issue. The magnet tricks the phone into thinking either the keyboard and/or the stylus is being opened/taken out. However, it is more accepted that the phone is being tricked into the keyboard being opened. There's a registry edit posted on these forums that can fix that, but the downside is if you want the screen to turn on when the keyboard opens, it will no longer turn on without having to press the screen wake-up button.
I'm just using the Slide2Unlock v.204 for WVGA devices. It keeps the phone locked even if the screen turns on. When I slide my phone into my magnet-clasped holster, it sometimes turns on. It's just a habit for me now to check the screen once it's in the holster, so I can turn the screen off if it woke up by itself.
Hey, everytime I am in a call, my ear taps the taskbar and it opens the notification window which covers my call screen. I have googled and searched this forum with no success.
Apart from TouchLockPro, was just curious as to if there is anything that addresses this issue?
Thanks in advance.
Do you have something (case?) blocking the proximity sensor? The screen should be turning off as soon as you put the phone to your ear.
Yes I do. I've just tested it out, that seems to be the problem. So is there any tweak to prevent this?
i know even with the screen turning off with the proxy censor i will find i am in the screen with the connections and battery info when i am done with a call... its kind of annoying and worrys me a bit i might accadently end the call when the screen is off.... also the flip over to make it a confrence phone is a 50/50 thing... this device is so glitchy
I randomly get this too, I think sometimes the sensor isn't used.. There are times I've noticed I can cover it up completely with my thumb and the screen doesn't go off, but other times it works just fine.
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Yes I do. I've just tested it out, that seems to be the problem. So is there any tweak to prevent this?
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Tweak...some testing to see where the sensor is (somewhere along the top near the HTC logo) and an X-acto knife to the case?
same thing happens to me, most of the time somehow I turn on airplane mode and the call disconnects.. sigh
TouchLockPro has a feature which turns the screen off using the G-sensor, but it's not just for calls, if you have it horizontal it'll be on, and if vertical it suspends/screen turns off; this would be good if it was just for calls, especially for those that use a case.
I'm just starting to use TouchLockPro (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444215) and I have most of the locking features turned off - I just hit the power button if I want to lock it.
It does keep the screen locked during a call so I no longer hit the buttons. Plus - when it unlocks I'm right back, exactly, where I left off.
There's lots of options to tweak, I think there's something for just about everyone.
I LOVE unlocking with the zoom bar - first time I've used that thing on my phone
~Eric
eknutson said:
I'm just starting to use TouchLockPro (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444215) and I have most of the locking features turned off - I just hit the power button if I want to lock it.
It does keep the screen locked during a call so I no longer hit the buttons. Plus - when it unlocks I'm right back, exactly, where I left off.
There's lots of options to tweak, I think there's something for just about everyone.
I LOVE unlocking with the zoom bar - first time I've used that thing on my phone
~Eric
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Awesome. Mind sharing what settings you have enabled, please?
Sure
Light Sensor, Stylus Sensor, GSensor, Nav Sensor, :
Nothing checked (all disabled)
Keyboard:
Use Slider, Suspend On Slider In, Slider Out Disables LockMode and EnableInputAtSuspend are all checked, everything else is un-checked (HTC Lock API, Double TouchPanel Lock and KeepAliveAlways are un-checked.
BattClock:
just some preferences set for appearance
Telephone API:
Everything is checked (except light)
Software:
Nothing set up
Other Settings:
AutolockOnPowerOn and UnlockOnACPower are checked, everything else is un-checked (added vibrates Lock/Unlock once - I like the extra notification)
~Eric
thanks! works like a charm now, is there any way to lock it if it is idle for like 30 secs or something without havin to hit the power button
There's a number of ways to lock it using the various sensors - you can try one of those and see what fits your habits / style best. You can also click on the BattClock icon to get the menu - the lock icon is right there. That's 2 steps though...
~Eric
Using Desire for months and everything prefect except one thing. Sometimes I need to press the button on the screen after some system message which need to be heard first. When I put the screen on my ear then its off. I can use the headphone sometimes but not always. I believe its because of the sensing function but cant find the place to turn it off. Could anyone who can tell me how to keep screen on when answering the call? Thanks in advance.
The screen goes off due to the proximity sensor, but it should be back on again when you take the phone away from your ear.
This definitely works for me, though I can imagine that if you have your hand close to the proximity sensor it could cause problems.
Regards,
Dave
I tried again and notice that, sometimes the screen can come back but after long time waiting, but in most case it cant. I am not sure the position where the sensor located. I am using the zagg invisible shield screen cover and not sure if that caused the error of the sensor. Anyhow, is here a place to turn this face sensing function off?
PS, after I cleaned the screen cover then it seems get better response time to show the screen after move the phone away from my face. But still not rapidly as normal phone with keyboard and influence the using experience. So if there was a option to turn this face sensing feature off then it could be better.
I found this link where some one who had the same issue found it was related to their Zagg protector, but on the same thread there are others who have had no such problems.
The proximity sensor is in the top left of the screen, within the black border. circles - see here.
Regards,
Dave
Sorry for my English, so I used the google translator.
My question is this:
I have a large, even big problem. Most of the time, both as a nock on nockcode not work and can hardly unlock the screen, just only after many attempts.
When I am in a call and when I want to finish I can not because the screen remains blocked and not with the power button can finish (the power button is clear-cut to terminate calls) and if it is not the other person to hang up the call to continue listen to the conversation and only removing the battery do I get out of this quite annoying situation. I'm getting sick of this smartphone because the operation does not accompany his features.
Already changed to costumizadas roms and continues all the same and not even with wipes or factory resets it there will.
Does anyone have or have had this problem and managed to solve.
Thank help.
alpes said:
Sorry for my English, so I used the google translator.
My question is this:
I have a large, even big problem. Most of the time, both as a nock on nockcode not work and can hardly unlock the screen, just only after many attempts.
When I am in a call and when I want to finish I can not because the screen remains blocked and not with the power button can finish (the power button is clear-cut to terminate calls) and if it is not the other person to hang up the call to continue listen to the conversation and only removing the battery do I get out of this quite annoying situation. I'm getting sick of this smartphone because the operation does not accompany his features.
Already changed to costumizadas roms and continues all the same and not even with wipes or factory resets it there will.
Does anyone have or have had this problem and managed to solve.
Thank help.
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Is anything blocking your proximity sensor?
Knock on: If your hand or anything blocks the proximity sensor the screen will not turn on.
In Call: Place phone to ear, block sensor and screen off - unblock sensor screen should turn back on.
Make sure nothing is blocking it like a screen protector or a case.
I had the same issue with my G2 because of a screen protector that was blocking the Prox sensor.
also a protective case could be blocking the sensor.
I do not use any protective screen and the proximity sensor is working well.