[Q] Concert Recording Quality - LG Optimus G (International)

I was going to buy the Galaxy SIII when it came out, but it turns out that it has a ****ty microphone in terms of recording audio, especially at concerts...compared, to say, the iPhone 4S.
This phone seems promising, but I'm yet to find ANYTHING online in regards to the same issue. Does anybody know what the quality of the audio recording is like when recording loud music, preferably at a concert?
Thanks!

I'll do a test and upload it on youtube and let you know!

Two test done:
Internal Mic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBLs2AAjoB4
Headphone Mic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuQpVPv9yz0
BTW: From my basic test, it means that the video recording is taking the mic pluged in the jack when there's one. So, it means that you can use an adaptor and plug in a better mic.
I have done several tests with my old Galaxy S here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=815074&highlight=microphone
Everything should apply with the LGOG.
I'll test an external mic this weekend, if I can find my adaptor... :|

Awesome, thanks man! Appreciate it .

Forgot to test with an external mic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUcZYjBOJ7o
This is done with the adapter for a portable DVD, which splits the TRRS into 3 seperate RCA, then used an RCA to 1/4 jack, then microphone.
An adaptor could be made, I most likely will do it during the christmas season and provide a guide!

Perfect! I think I'm finally gonna buy the phone.

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Can I use external mic with the note? what kind?

I want to use my note as a camcorder with external mic hooked to it.
I had problems with the SGS2 and my wireless microphone - it just didn't receive voice to the recording. same issue with the RAZR.
Can I expect same issues with the note?
Have anyone tried connecting a MIC to the note?
Thanks
I have ordered this . http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0007N55K0
did not work. lame
so there isn't any solution for this? anyone knows?
irig mic cast
I tested these mics in vegas (ces) and they both worked fine on my note:
w ww.ikmultimedia.com/irigmic
and
w ww.ikmultimedia.com/irigmiccast
I've ordered the small one here:
w ww.thomann.de/gb/ik_multimedia_irig_mic_cast.htm
They told me that it should be available in april.
Chris
newbie here, looking for external mic info. one thing's for sure, you need to use the right connector. this is a 4 contact miniature jack standard to samsung and iphone. the nokia version is slightly smaller just to annoy people. the 4th connection carries external video connection so its' important to get the right audio connections, available from your friend google. also, you'll possibly have to tell the recorder which mic to use in settings somewhere. i use an excellent app called recforge pro.
good luck all
for the intrepid, as long as you get the right connections, any mic will do but the electret type are probably the best budget jobs. damage is extremely unlikely, unless you connect to the domestic electricity supply, a useful idiot-rid.
irig mic cast
Just an update on this:
I've finally received the irig mic cast and it works great with my note
How does it compare to the inbuilt mic?
Any chance you could upload some wav samples of each under the same conditions for reference?
I'm thinking about getting it, or something like it, to use with Audio Evolution and Loopstack.
thanks,
Rich
It's definitely clearer than the built in mic.
Also it's got a small volume switch for high/low sensitivity.
Another thing is that it's quite directional, which means that it records clearly the audio source in front of the mic and pads the background noise.
I'll record some files for you over the weekend.
Thanks.
One other thing, can you confirm that the headphone monitor out on the Mic Cast works with the Note?
ie. if you plug headphones in, can you hear what you are recording?
thanks,
Rich
Does the iRig MIC Cast work on the Note for regular phone calls and Voice-Over-IP apps like GrooveIP?
Hey everybody,
I'm also looking for an external mic however I'm after some sort of extension 3.5 cable to use the phone as a camera.
Cheers,
Ego
richlum said:
Thanks.
One other thing, can you confirm that the headphone monitor out on the Mic Cast works with the Note?
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Sorry about the late reply. The real time monitoring feature is not available in any of the apps which I tested (e.g. Tape Machine Recorder, etc). I think that developers keep such a function disabled on purpose due to the well known latency issue on GB and ICS. Let's hope that google fixes this in Jelly Bean...
KnowHow said:
Does the iRig MIC Cast work on the Note for regular phone calls and Voice-Over-IP apps like GrooveIP?
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It works well for regular phone calls and skype, therefore it should work with other voip apps as well. If you use it for phone calls/voip you have to connect a set of hearphones/speakers to the sound output of the irig mic cast as the internal speaker of the note gets muted.
Egoexpress said:
I'm also looking for an external mic however I'm after some sort of extension 3.5 cable to use the phone as a camera.
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Just plug in the irig mic cast and then turn it around so that the front of the mic is on the same side as the camera lens. In this case I'd set the mic sensitivity switch to "hi".
Thanks for the info.
I just need to find somewhere that will deliver to Thailand now
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I don't know where you can find it in Thailand but you can have a look here:
http://www.ikmultimedia.com/dealers
springer.music said:
Just an update on this:
I've finally received the irig mic cast and it works great with my note
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Nice! I use PCM Recorder to record acoustic gigs and the internal mic is way too sensitive to the point of distortion.
Does the iRig mic alleviate this with the sensitivity button?
Thanks!
M
external mic
Hi there,
As I was poking around I stumbled upon the above extermal mike, the seller claims to be the only one selling compatible external wired microphones. I'll keep you updated as soon as I get my hands on it.
ebay.com/itm/SENSITIVE-TIE-CLIP-LAPEL-LAVALIER-MICROPHONE-for-SAMSUNG-GALAXY-SMARTPHONES?item=280916075048&cmd=ViewItem&_trksid=p5197.m7&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D2%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D734704348280116824#ht_1797wt_1163[/url]
Ego,
Hi
New to this forum. I play in a tribute band and we want to record some of our rehearsals. The camera on my note is really good but the external mic is waaaay too sensitive. I did use the supplied earpiece that comes with the note, which has a tiny mic, which worked really well recording really loud music off my mac speakers but not sure it will pick up enough frequencies in the rehearsal room. (I am going to try it live but in the meantime will and will put the recording of my mac up on youtube) However I used to use a Sony ecm ds70p on a mini disc years ago but it has long since gone. The live audio quality was always really good with this little mic so I am thinking of getting another one. As far as I am aware the Sony has only a three pole 3.5mm jack but I would need a mic with a 4 pole 3.5mm jack, (I think I have that right???) to be able to record into the Note.
Can someone confirm whether this mic will work out of the box...I have a feeling not...or is there a converter jack that I can buy that would allow the use of the three pole jack in a 4 pole socket. Really hoping this is possible and that there is something out there..problem is I am not too sure how to word a google or forum search on this.
Any help would be really great.
Many thanks
Think you guys might find this interesting. Just plugged in the standard ear buds halfway through and used the tiny mic on there...
I am not allowed to post the link as I haven't done enough posts! If you go to youtube and search for
eGcpHidB6VY you should find it. Worth a watch.
Cheers
antonioeram said:
I have ordered this . http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0007N55K0
did not work. lame
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This Microphone can't work. Look:
A headphone 4 pins (sound + mic) have 4 contact, beginning for the point are : Sound Left, Sound Right, Ground, Microphone.
If You see the 3º contact of microphone Sony is big then others. It make contact whit Ground + Microphne. Are short circuited.
Can't work this.
A external Mic can work but w/ a connector 4 pins, using only the 3º and the 4º contact (the 2 side cable).
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springer.music said:
I don't know where you can find it in Thailand but you can have a look here:
http://www.ikmultimedia.com/dealers
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Look here:
http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/irigmic/
The connector have 4 contacts. The 1º and 2º from the point are the sound to white cable. The 3º is ground (common) and 4º are the Mic to black cable.
The question here is. This is a normal 3,5 pin like on Android's or is proprietary from Apple? On that site enter on Store and choice the Dealer more near You.

External Microphone for Video recording.

I searched through the forums and found some posts that said in order to use your external Mic you need a Y adapter. And that it doesn't support stereo, and some other issues.
Can someone link me to a Y adapter that would work along with a good value microphone that I can use during video recording on my Galaxy S III?
I'm surprised that a company hasn't made a product for this yet where you just plug it in and it works. The camera and video quality are great, but the sound is lacking greatly.
You can also get an OTG cable then you can use the yeti and have digital hd stereo
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oreo said:
You can also get an OTG cable then you can use the yeti and have digital hd stereo
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would it work while recording a video?
If I find a mic with a 3.5mm jack can't I just plug it in? the ear buds that come with the phone have a microphone where the volume controls are and it picks up sound during video recording.
enz660 said:
If I find a mic with a 3.5mm jack can't I just plug it in? the ear buds that come with the phone have a microphone where the volume controls are and it picks up sound during video recording.
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the headphone jack can only output a limited amount of power to drive a mic device, any non mobile mic is not going work. if you want high quality sound you must do so with the usb using either an external usb soundcard with analog 3.5mm inputs or just a usb mic like the yeti which is the best you can really get. and yes s3 has native support for almost any kind of usb device so it will work like if you plug in usbdevices to your desktop/laptop as long as it is Plug and play compatible. whether there are good apps for these usage scenarios though is another story.
oh and you are welcome...
oreo said:
the headphone jack can only output a limited amount of power to drive a mic device, any non mobile mic is not going work. if you want high quality sound you must do so with the usb using either an external usb soundcard with analog 3.5mm inputs or just a usb mic like the yeti which is the best you can really get. and yes s3 has native support for almost any kind of usb device so it will work like if you plug in usbdevices to your desktop/laptop as long as it is Plug and play compatible. whether there are good apps for these usage scenarios though is another story.
oh and you are welcome...
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Good info, thanks. Looked up the yeti mic you mentioned, but it's kinda pricey at $109 and not exactly portable either. Do you use it?
(EDIT: too bad most jack mics suck)
oreo said:
the headphone jack can only output a limited amount of power to drive a mic device, any non mobile mic is not going work. if you want high quality sound you must do so with the usb using either an external usb soundcard with analog 3.5mm inputs or just a usb mic like the yeti which is the best you can really get. and yes s3 has native support for almost any kind of usb device so it will work like if you plug in usbdevices to your desktop/laptop as long as it is Plug and play compatible. whether there are good apps for these usage scenarios though is another story.
oh and you are welcome...
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Thanks! So something like this then would be good?
http://www.amazon.com/CAD-Audio-U9-...d=1343280726&sr=1-3&keywords=CAD+9+microphone
I was looking for something like this too to go with my SGS3.
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I was looking at these earlier and thought about getting the edutige http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004XC6KHS/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER. A few of the reviews mention it working with a couple of android phones. Only issue is it seems to pick up alot of background noise. If anyone decides to get this for their s3 please tell us how it performs.
Not really sure what you want a dedicated microphone for taking videos on a cell phone. If you are looking to make quality videos, you might as well get a decent external microphone and syncing up audio in post production. I know my brother uses this in conjunction with a 60D. Will probably sound a lot better than the $30 options posted above. http://www.amazon.com/Zoom-H1-Portable-Digital-Recorder/dp/B003QKBVYK/ref=pd_cp_MI_0
I want to record videos with decent sound quality at concerts, etc.. I don't want distorted bass and good audio picture. Recommend me ext. microphone for my SGS3, thanks!

External Mic (for concert/loud recording)

Two test done:
Internal Mic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBLs2AAjoB4
Headphone Mic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuQpVPv9yz0
BTW: From my basic test, it means that the video recording is taking the mic pluged in the jack when there's one. So, it means that you can use an adaptor and plug in a better mic.
I have done several tests with my old Galaxy S here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=815074&highlight=microphone
Everything should apply with the LGOG.
I'll test an external mic this weekend, if I can find my adaptor... :|
This can be transfered in accessories
Sorry!
thanx
t1mman said:
Two test done:
Internal Mic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBLs2AAjoB4
Headphone Mic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuQpVPv9yz0
BTW: From my basic test, it means that the video recording is taking the mic pluged in the jack when there's one. So, it means that you can use an adaptor and plug in a better mic.
I have done several tests with my old Galaxy S here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=815074&highlight=microphone
Everything should apply with the LGOG.
I'll test an external mic this weekend, if I can find my adaptor... :|
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being a country artist i thank you for your testing www.reverbnation.com/curtice
or just get a nokia 920 lol jk

external microphone

hi, I've been going crazy looking for a budget videocamera with an external microphone when I thought about doing it with my smartphone.
what I need is to record singing classes so i'm not looking for a great video quality but i need a great audio.
I read some old thread about phones and external mics but i guess I'm not even close to get what I want. searching in google looks like external mics for smartphone don´t exist.
Does anybody can help me on this?
thanks in advance...
well, looks like I found what I was looking for. the mic is the edutige eim 003 and is easily pluggable on most of the android and ios devices...
this is the link on amazon. you will find as well a couple of reviews on youtube. being from Europe the cheapest price would be 48€ but in us it's worth 28€. enjoy
It's also possible to make an adapter with the semi-standard iPhone compatible 4 pin headphone / mic plug on one end and separate headphone and microphone jacks on the other. I made one with just some resistors, a capacitor, and audio cables that now lets me use dynamic microphones (or even weak line in signals) with my iPhone instead of the usual condenser microphones.

SGSIII External Microphone - Suggestions?

So I've gone to several concerts with my Samsung Galaxy S3 and I've noticed... Every single video recording with the stock app is absolutely terribad. The video portion is okay (Great for a smartphone) but the audio is absolutely horrendous. I've lately been wanting to find an external microphone that could possibly connect via the 3.5mm jack and serve as the primary mic for picking up sound.
I've scoured the Interwebs for little success on a good external mic that fit my needs. Here are my findings - correct me if I'm wrong in an area:
1. The mic, in order to be recognized by the SGS3 as a mic, needs to have an impedance of over 1000 omegas and has a TRRS 3.5mm jack.
2. There are actually very few compatible mics that would work with the SGS3. One example is the Edutige ESM 01O, which is overpriced and the specs and reviews do not show that it's a good live music recorder.
3. All other vaguely compatible mics are also not good at recording live music, especially bass heavy music (Which is what I frequent). The compatible lavalier mic I found is not what I need.
4. I actually found a mic that is designed for recording live music - the Edutige EIM-004 - BUT it's not compatible with the SGS3, to my dismay. It also costs $80.
So here's my problem - I need a good external microphone that's compatible with my SGS3 that is capable of recording live music with little distortion. Preferably, I'd like a low cost (Ballpark of $20-$50)I've already got the software covered, there are a few apps that I've looked up that fit my needs.
Here's my phone specs:
AT&T Samsung Galaxy SIII i747 running Cyanogen Mod 10.0.0
I'd really appreciate any help. Posting here is probably the last thing I can try, considering how there's almost nothing out there to help me resolve my situation. Thanks guys.
I really need an answer, guys. Above & Beyond is coming to town in a few days and I'd really like to record them with my SGS3.
Mecronmancer said:
I really need an answer, guys. Above & Beyond is coming to town in a few days and I'd really like to record them with my SGS3.
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I'm also interested. :good:
I'm still looking for a solution myself as I also do concerts recording with my S3. The audio recording sounds much better when you aren't as close up to the speakers. I know it would also help if we could block some of the sound coming in. Like ear plugs to block some of the dB.
Agent3 said:
I'm still looking for a solution myself as I also do concerts recording with my S3. The audio recording sounds much better when you aren't as close up to the speakers. I know it would also help if we could block some of the sound coming in. Like ear plugs to block some of the dB.
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I've heard of a few apps that reduced the mic's gain and applied a few filters to clean up the sound, but I don't know how much the sound quality improves.
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=390-810
Here's a calibration mic might work.
I like this mic, David. The only problem is the impedance. The mic is 200 ohms but the SGS3 needs a mic of at least 1000 ohms in order for the mic to be recognized as a mic. Otherwise it'll only be recognized as a headset.
For concert recording try the negative mic gain in Boeffla kernel.
I9300XXEMD3, Boeffla 2.12, Earsonics SM3v2
i know this isnt going to help much, but i simply cover the mic's slightly with my hands. when i have my phone in the air recording something, phone horizontal, i place my hands in front of the mic holes, so it only records sound from behind my hands. this helps ALOT.
and what do you know...i'm also an A&B fan. recorded last weekend with the above trick:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q11VCIyLB3g
ExTREmE99 said:
i know this isnt going to help much, but i simply cover the mic's slightly with my hands. when i have my phone in the air recording something, phone horizontal, i place my hands in front of the mic holes, so it only records sound from behind my hands. this helps ALOT.
and what do you know...i'm also an A&B fan. recorded last weekend with the above trick:
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Nice! Hope you had a good time at the show haha. I think this is going to be my temporary fix to the problem (Considering how A&B is coming to town tomorrow I've lost all hope of finding a mic in time), but I'll still need a solution for when I go to Ultra... Because their Funktion One systems are definitely too powerful for this fix.
Mecronmancer said:
So I've gone to several concerts with my Samsung Galaxy S3 and I've noticed... Every single video recording with the stock app is absolutely terribad. The video portion is okay (Great for a smartphone) but the audio is absolutely horrendous. I've lately been wanting to find an external microphone that could possibly connect via the 3.5mm jack and serve as the primary mic for picking up sound.
I've scoured the Interwebs for little success on a good external mic that fit my needs. Here are my findings - correct me if I'm wrong in an area:
1. The mic, in order to be recognized by the SGS3 as a mic, needs to have an impedance of over 1000 omegas and has a TRRS 3.5mm jack.
2. There are actually very few compatible mics that would work with the SGS3. One example is the Edutige ESM 01O, which is overpriced and the specs and reviews do not show that it's a good live music recorder.
3. All other vaguely compatible mics are also not good at recording live music, especially bass heavy music (Which is what I frequent). The compatible lavalier mic I found is not what I need.
4. I actually found a mic that is designed for recording live music - the Edutige EIM-004 - BUT it's not compatible with the SGS3, to my dismay. It also costs $80.
So here's my problem - I need a good external microphone that's compatible with my SGS3 that is capable of recording live music with little distortion. Preferably, I'd like a low cost (Ballpark of $20-$50)I've already got the software covered, there are a few apps that I've looked up that fit my needs.
Here's my phone specs:
AT&T Samsung Galaxy SIII i747 running Cyanogen Mod 10.0.0
I'd really appreciate any help. Posting here is probably the last thing I can try, considering how there's almost nothing out there to help me resolve my situation. Thanks guys.
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A quick answer for yah Mecronmancer.
- otg usb cable (couple of bucks)
- Digital to Analogue converter with USB (Appr $30) Behringer UCA222 is what I have.
- USB recording app...USB Audio Record or Audio Evolution. Both apps from Same guys.
- Microphone or analogue stereo inputs (Sky is the limit here)
- a rom that supports this arrangement. My i747m S3 with Stock ICS 4.0.4 works flawlessly with this arrangement.
You will get 16bit, 44.1k Stereo recording quality. Will it record while another app is recording Video? That I don't know. Thiis may be your one caveat. I might give it a shot sometime this week and report back.
UPDATE:
I simultaneously recorded USB Audio with the USB audio app and Video+mic audio with the built in ICS video app successfully. So if it was me, I would combine the 2 source recordings using a PC app and have HQ audio with Video. You just need to time align the 2 in sync very easily since you would have lofi mic audio and hifi usb audio sources.
themadproducer said:
- Digital to Analogue converter with USB (Appr $30) Behringer UCA222 is what I have.
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What is the power source for the ADC?
Can anyone comment on the audio quality recording stereo to a phone with this setup?
guy48065 said:
What is the power source for the ADC?
Can anyone comment on the audio quality recording stereo to a phone with this setup?
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@guy48065
The UCA222 can be powered from your Smart Phone, in my case, the SGS3. I had to buy a female-A-USB-to-Male-micro USB plug. They are inexpensive. I can't remember if this cable had to be an OTA version. (On The Go)
In my car, if my memory serves me well, I had the USB split with one end going to the SGS3 and the other into my USB cigarette lighter charger. I didn't end up using it in my car because it didn't interact well with the phone call audio stream etc. Lots of glitching.
RE-Recording Sound Quality
Unless your a professional audiophile or sound engineer with impeccable trained ears, the recording quality is flawless and blows away what I could do without it. An app like Audio Evolution Mobile is a great combo, especially if you have a larger and fast tablet.
Ok so it doesn't get power from the phone and it has no batteries. Darn. ..I was hoping it could be a handy mobile recorder.
A splitter usb + battery supply is borderline too cumbersome.
Price is great though -- I might tinker with it as a means to dub vinyl to files.
Does anyone make a $30 adc that includes a phono preamp? Lol.
guy48065 said:
Ok so it doesn't get power from the phone and it has no batteries. Darn. ..I was hoping it could be a handy mobile recorder.
A splitter usb + battery supply is borderline too cumbersome.
Price is great though -- I might tinker with it as a means to dub vinyl to files.
Does anyone make a $30 adc that includes a phono preamp? Lol.
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@guy48065
You miss read.
YES...it CAN definitely be powered from the smartphone.
Read my reply post again.
I didn't think phones were capable if supplying usb power so when you wrote about the OTG cable *and* the splitter with power I assumed you needed both.
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I didn't think phones were capable if supplying usb power so when you wrote about the OTG cable *and* the splitter with power I assumed you needed both.
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No problem. It's a very small investment for what it can offer.

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