Rogers E971 helper thread - LG Optimus G (International)

Alright so the point of this thread is to help people with their LG Optimus G for Rogers Wireless in Canada, also known simply as E971
Here are the official specs:
from LG:
http://www.lg.com/ca_en/cell-phones/lg-LGE971-optimus-g
from Rogers:
http://www.rogers.com/web/link/wire...normal&productId_Detailed=OPTIMUSGBLK&N=52+11
The main difference from this phone and the E973 version is the 700/2600mhz LTE frequency for Rogers as opposed to 700/1700 for Bell/Telus/Sasktel
The 2600MHz LTE spectrum (2x20MHz band) is the frequency used for LTE that has the most bandwidth available making it the fastest LTE band. Typical download speeds experienced will range from 12 Mbps up to 40Mbps. -from the Roger's site
This means that LTE will not work with other LTE such as BELL or TELUS unless they roll out a 700/2600mhz network, Fido piggy backs on Rogers and *should* work
Here are some of the more important threads to have your phone rooted and have a unlocked bootloader, up to know i do not know of any custom roms available for the E971
Give these guys your thanks and donate if you can
You'll have to root first then unlock the bootloader
Root:
Bin4ry's Root MANY ANDROID
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886460
(confirmed working on E97120D)
unlocked bootloader:
Team Codefire's Project FreeGee
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2007961
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=edu.shell.freegee (Donate)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=edu.shell.freegee_free (Free)
If you want to keep your root and unlocked Bootloader do not update to the latest OTA (E97110E_00), you will lose root permanatly and Bin4ry's methode will not work anymore the previous version is linked at the 2nd post (E97110D_00)
more info here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2053880
to disable the OTA app:
"Disable" via Settings > Apps > All > Software Update > Tap Disable.
or freeze with Titanium Backup "Software Update 3.1.0"
Removing carrierware (only do if you have v0.5+ of FreeGee and Root or else you'll get a the security error bootloop)
You'll also receive the Security error if you tinker with the Google Apps that come with this phone (ex, google movies, google books, etc)
remove or delete the .apk , freezing with Titanium works as well
Locations
/vendor/apps-rgs/
/system/vendor/apps-rgs/
/data/app-system
Other Stuff
E971 wont work with Bell LTE
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2000629
USB Drivers:
http://www.lg.com/ca_en/support-mobile/lg-LGE971
[STOCK ROM] LG Optimus G CANADA E971 E973 Firmware / Service Manual
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2036404

working Roms:
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CyanogenMod 10.1 by chadouming
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2031261
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[4.2.2] AOKP - geeb CDN *unofficial* by Paulicat
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2318196
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[UNOFFICIAL]AOSPA-3.69 :Hello Halo by x10forevers
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2383089
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A nice debloated stock rom found here (based off E)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2098777
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Jelly bean is here for root and unlocked bootloader users:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...2#post37437712
follow instructions exaclty as described in OP
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KDZ:
links are no longer working

This makes me even MORE glad I bought an E970 instead of the E971. The Rogers phone doesn't even support both THEIR OWN FREQUENCIES, because the AWS band would mean the phone could easily be used on Telus or Bell. So the E971 doesn't actually get better LTE coverage than Galaxy S2s or iPhone5s by offering both bands Rogers supports.
The E971 supports 2600 and 700, 700 being the main frequency for AT&T in the US which is shared with the E970 but not supported by ANY carrier in Canada until after the 700mhz spectrum auction which isn't for another YEAR. But with an E970 on Rogers I still get the AWS band , and it is ALSO usable on Bell or Telus!
So overall, the AT&T phone gives just as good coverage out of the box, and better options for changing carriers and roaming than either regular Canadian model.
**** you, Rogers.

Thank you! This is very helpful!

amrando said:
This makes me even MORE glad I bought an E970 instead of the E971. The Rogers phone doesn't even support both THEIR OWN FREQUENCIES, because the AWS band would mean the phone could easily be used on Telus or Bell. So the E971 doesn't actually get better LTE coverage than Galaxy S2s or iPhone5s by offering both bands Rogers supports.
The E971 supports 2600 and 700, 700 being the main frequency for AT&T in the US which is shared with the E970 but not supported by ANY carrier in Canada until after the 700mhz spectrum auction which isn't for another YEAR. But with an E970 on Rogers I still get the AWS band , and it is ALSO usable on Bell or Telus!
So overall, the AT&T phone gives just as good coverage out of the box, and better options for changing carriers and roaming than either regular Canadian model.
**** you, Rogers.
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With all due respect, unless you plan on changing carriers, then the E971 does in fact have the fastest up/down speeds. 2600 is basically empty right now, like driving a Ferrari down an empty highway. Not many people buy a phone knowing they'll be switching carriers - I certainly don't.
On a separate note, anyone else get a little happy tingle inside everytime the LTE icon comes on?

adzidek said:
With all due respect, unless you plan on changing carriers, then the E971 does in fact have the fastest up/down speeds. 2600 is basically empty right now, like driving a Ferrari down an empty highway. Not many people buy a phone knowing they'll be switching carriers - I certainly don't.
On a separate note, anyone else get a little happy tingle inside everytime the LTE icon comes on?
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im in Winnipeg = no LTE lol
fingers crossed for 2013

BloodBaron said:
im in Winnipeg = no LTE lol
fingers crossed for 2013
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Move to Toronto - I'll find you your dream home !
(I'm a Real Estate Agent with Royal LePage)

I thought Rogers uses AWS frequencies for LTE... How else would the Nexus 4 get LTE? Because I know the Canadian mobile industry has an upcoming 700Mhz auction coming up and everyone wants the small 3 to win it.
Proof: http://mobilesyrup.com/2012/03/14/o...13-plus-were-loosening-telecom-foreign-rules/
More proof: http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...33+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca&client=firefox-a

geokilla said:
I thought Rogers uses AWS frequencies for LTE... How else would the Nexus 4 get LTE? Because I know the Canadian mobile industry has an upcoming 700Mhz auction coming up and everyone wants the small 3 to win it.
Proof: http://mobilesyrup.com/2012/03/14/o...13-plus-were-loosening-telecom-foreign-rules/
More proof: http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...33+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca&client=firefox-a
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as far as i know the optimus g specs from LG/Rogers say the phone uses 700/2600 bands, im sure rogers has 700/1700 AWS deployed as well for other lte capable phones,
well that would be my best guess

From what I've read Rogers has the standard AWS frequency LTE, but is also rolling out an additional 2600MHz network in addition to AWS, providing a nice empty spectrum and supposedly better coverage in rural areas. This is supposed to be in partnership with Bell, but Bell is apparently not supporting the frequency at this time. This lead to my issues with Bell LTE linked in the OP.
In theory, if you have 2600MHz coverage, you should be able to get better throughput due to the empty spectrum, but in practice (from my limited testing) you get generally the same speeds as any other Rogers LTE phone (such as the iPhone, which is not using 2600MHz).

Has anyone tried the Base 0.5 Rom over in the at&t optimus G forum. Just wondering if it would work for the E91.
If you have what are your results?

cfoucher said:
Has anyone tried the Base 0.5 Rom over in the at&t optimus G forum. Just wondering if it would work for the E91.
If you have what are your results?
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I think someone did flash it. They said it worked. I'm not sure how because I thought partitions were different. I think it was an E973 though.
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cfoucher said:
Has anyone tried the Base 0.5 Rom over in the at&t optimus G forum. Just wondering if it would work for the E91.
If you have what are your results?
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dimsler said:
I have installed this rom on the E971 Rogers edition, all seems to work fine.
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from the att dev thread
gonna try later today myself

BloodBaron said:
from the att dev thread
gonna try later today myself
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just flashed the_Base_v05 rom from att forum
didnt seem to do a thing altho everything seemed to "flash" ok

BloodBaron said:
just flashed the_Base_v05 rom from att forum
didnt seem to do a thing altho everything seemed to "flash" ok
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So it works? What about the LTE?

geokilla said:
So it works? What about the LTE?
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No it didn't apply any of actual changes just flashed successfully
I chose the Gmail 4.2 option and I'm still on the stock version
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Hello Dear Winnipeger,
So as the OP suggests, I assume that I can achieve root on the link provided right? Anyone can confirm this?
I luv yah all!
EDIT: and yes it's working.....root achieved

Yup that's the root method I used as well works very well
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BloodBaron said:
Yup that's the root method I used as well works very well
Sent from my LG-E971 using xda premium
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Yeah, I need to make my searching skills better. I did not know that there is A "Super One-Click Root" for ICS/JB. I believe in 2.2 and 2.3 days, there is one like this piece of rooting method but the development stopped after 2.3 for ICS has a very different system. Now some genius came up with this one....simply awesome!
EDIT: and it is a good idea to push "SuperSU" rather than the traditional Superuser app. It works better on Android devices with a custom UI on it. In other notes, I unlocked the bootloader (i think) but I don't see any indications on boot screen whatsoever that indicates that the device is unlocked. Maybe I failed on the boot loader unlock...

joncwchao said:
From what I've read Rogers has the standard AWS frequency LTE, but is also rolling out an additional 2600MHz network in addition to AWS, providing a nice empty spectrum and supposedly better coverage in rural areas. This is supposed to be in partnership with Bell, but Bell is apparently not supporting the frequency at this time. This lead to my issues with Bell LTE linked in the OP.
In theory, if you have 2600MHz coverage, you should be able to get better throughput due to the empty spectrum, but in practice (from my limited testing) you get generally the same speeds as any other Rogers LTE phone (such as the iPhone, which is not using 2600MHz).
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Correct
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HEADS UP: Rogers Optimus G (LG-E971) not compatible with Bell LTE

In Canada, I am unable to get my Rogers LG-E971 to connect to Bell's LTE network. Talked with Bell technical support and they said that the phone is not reporting LTE capability. I even messed around in the service menu (use 971 instead of 973 or 970 in the code) and enabled the bands that bell uses, still no go. I can't even return the phone now, because I had to unlock it to try it on Bell.
Bell sells the LG-E973. I bought the Rogers because Bell will not sell new phones without selling/renewing a plan along with the phone.
So, to sum up, don't go buying a Rogers Optimus G hoping to get LTE to work on Bell (or Telus, I assume) after unlocking. You'll be out your $700 because shops won't accept the return if the phone has been unlocked.
Edit: Forgot to say, I get 4G HSPA speeds (pulling 15Mbps down on speedtest compared to 30Mbps down on a friend's iPhone 5 LTE connection) on Bell.
Confused
i got the g for rogers aswell.. are you saying that rogers doesnt provided lte?
my signal says 4g... thought that meant LTE??
and your right.. i get 14mb down.. is supposed to be 30???
cpus456 said:
Confused
i got the g for rogers aswell.. are you saying that rogers doesnt provided lte?
my signal says 4g... thought that meant LTE??
and your right.. i get 14mb down.. is supposed to be 30???
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from speedtest videos, it's supposed to have an lte icon when it's on lte. you can check which network it's on by checking settings->about phone->status (or something along those lines, i don't have the phone in front of me at the moment).
You should be able to get LTE on rogers, if you're not you need to check your coverage at http://www.rogers.com/web/content/w...nsumer_Wireless_Eng-_-Network_0909-_-coverage
My personal issue is just that it's not compatible with Bell LTE (as far as I can tell).
4G is HSPA+ not LTE. If you're on Rogers and not getting LTE with the Rogers phone make sure you live in an area with LTE coverage and that you have not accidentally disabled it in the mobile network settings.
As for the Rogers version not working with Bell LTE, maybe once the bootloader is unlocked it will be possible to flash the Bell radio and have it work?
I think this is because the rogers optimus g's LTE runs on the 2600mhz band only, as far as i know, so far, it is the ONLY phone in the country that runs on the 2600 band currently. The upside is that you practically get your own private "highway" and you should see significant speed advantages as long as you are connected to roger's network. The downside is that it not very compatible with other networks.
Joyok said:
I think this is because the rogers optimus g's LTE runs on the 2600mhz band only, as far as i know, so far, it is the ONLY phone in the country that runs on the 2600 band currently. The upside is that you practically get your own private "highway" and you should see significant speed advantages as long as you are connected to roger's network. The downside is that it not very compatible with other networks.
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I read this, but most of the articles I'd read said that the 2600MHz band was supposed to be a joint rollout between Rogers and Bell. Sigh.
The possibility of flashing the radio is still pretty far off unfortunately. This phone's going on craigslist; I'll just have to wait till people actually have the Bell one in stock to get my new Optimus.
just called rogers
i had the sim from my iphone4 installed.. thats why it was saying 4g
went to put the lte one in that they sent me and its too big!! they sent me the full size one ...grrrrr!!
In korean version of the G, HSPA+ shows as 3G and LTE as 4G.
I believe ive never seen the LTE icon on the G.
Tim4 said:
In korean version of the G, HSPA+ shows as 3G and LTE as 4G.
I believe ive never seen the LTE icon on the G.
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i have a rogers 971 OG in winipeg aka no lte, shows as 4g therefore probably hspa+ im guessing lte might have a lte icon???
cant really test from where im at
BloodBaron said:
i have a rogers 971 OG in winipeg aka no lte, shows as 4g therefore probably hspa+ im guessing lte might have a lte icon???
cant really test from where im at
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I'm in toronto and mine has an LTE icon.
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Here the korean screen.
But it obviously depends on the provider/phone version.
The LTE icon probably shown only for providers which dont support the full version of LTE, just the internet/data.
Btw HSPA+ arent related to the 4G, so basically its a cheating and should be sued
joncwchao said:
I read this, but most of the articles I'd read said that the 2600MHz band was supposed to be a joint rollout between Rogers and Bell. Sigh.
The possibility of flashing the radio is still pretty far off unfortunately. This phone's going on craigslist; I'll just have to wait till people actually have the Bell one in stock to get my new Optimus.
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I dont think the possibility of flashing a different radio is as far off as you think
Hi all-
I have my E970 working on Rogers, and yes - that's one of the reason I've stuck to the AT&T phone. I suspected Rogers would f*** the consumer somehow as usual. Then again, I still have no Wifi hotspot capability until a ROM update removes AT&T's block.. :silly:
How exactly does one access the service menu to enable or disable various frequencies? I had asked about changing the baseband radio support because the AT&T 700mhz support is useless here in Canada, as the spectrum auction hasn't even run yet. It'll be 18 months or more before a provider has any support for it. But I could use 2600mhz support, or 1800 or 2100mhz support for roaming on vacations.
The band all GSM North American Optimus G models should have in common is the AWS band - 1700up/2100down. The E970 also has 700mhz, the Rogers E971 2600mhz and Telus/Bell E973s ??? (most websites claim 1800mhz, but this seems odd since neither actually use this frequency for LTE).
On the E970, HSPA+ service shows a 4G icon.
On LTE service it shows 4G LTE, even though the speeds are nothing alike. HSPA+ Here in Alberta is typically 1-4Mbit, the LTE speeds so far are nothing to write home about either, averaging about half the claims I see from Rogers users in Ontario or BC - typically 15-30Mbit downstream and 8-12Mbit upstream in various parts of the city.
Here's my Speedtest.net samples from Rogers LTE over the weekend, check the attached screenshot. The speeds seem all over the map, but are all in the same areas of the city, downtown and northside.
amrando said:
Hi all-
I have my E970 working on Rogers, and yes - that's one of the reason I've stuck to the AT&T phone. I suspected Rogers would f*** the consumer somehow as usual. Then again, I still have no Wifi hotspot capability until a ROM update removes AT&T's block.. :silly:
How exactly does one access the service menu to enable or disable various frequencies? I had asked about changing the baseband radio support because the AT&T 700mhz support is useless here in Canada, as the spectrum auction hasn't even run yet. It'll be 18 months or more before a provider has any support for it. But I could use 2600mhz support, or 1800 or 2100mhz support for roaming on vacations.
The band all GSM North American Optimus G models should have in common is the AWS band - 1700up/2100down. The E970 also has 700mhz, the Rogers E971 2600mhz and Telus/Bell E973s ??? (most websites claim 1800mhz, but this seems odd since neither actually use this frequency for LTE).
On the E970, HSPA+ service shows a 4G icon.
On LTE service it shows 4G LTE, even though the speeds are nothing alike. HSPA+ Here in Alberta is typically 1-4Mbit, the LTE speeds so far are nothing to write home about either, averaging about half the claims I see from Rogers users in Ontario or BC - typically 15-30Mbit downstream and 8-12Mbit upstream in various parts of the city.
Here's my Speedtest.net samples from Rogers LTE over the weekend, check the attached screenshot. The speeds seem all over the map, but are all in the same areas of the city, downtown and northside.
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Service menu can be accessed by typing 3845#*970# into the dialer, where you replace 970 with the model number of the phone (Bell is 973, Rogers is 971). From there, ->LTE-Only->Modem Settings->LTE Band Selection. Checking the items seems to apply the settings immediately.
If you're getting 30Mbps then that's pretty good, here in Vancouver Rogers seems to top out around 50Mbps with good weather and everything. If you ever get more than half the claimed speeds you're probably standing in a testing lab.
Haze08, I've seen that the American models are unlocked now, but they still have to do the work on the Canadian ones, then someone would still have to have the inclination to figure out the differences between Bell and Rogers models, then figure out a safe way to flash the baseband, then test if it's safe to modify the baseband of one model to make LTE work on a different network. That assumes that it's possible; it could be a hardware issue that can't be fixed by flashing the radio. I'm not even convinced there'd be a demand for figuring out how to make the Rogers model work on Bell, seeing as how the Bell model is starting to trickle in stock. All these factors add up to me not holding my breath that someday the Rogers model will be able to connect to Bell's LTE network.
I'm just hoping to get the bootloader unlock and stock 4.2 with AWS 2600 LTE support for the Rogers E971. I like this phone and really don't want the hassle of changing it for an N4. This phone phone is simply better in every other way.
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joncwchao said:
In Canada, I am unable to get my Rogers LG-E971 to connect to Bell's LTE network. Talked with Bell technical support and they said that the phone is not reporting LTE capability. I even messed around in the service menu (use 971 instead of 973 or 970 in the code) and enabled the bands that bell uses, still no go. I can't even return the phone now, because I had to unlock it to try it on Bell.
Bell sells the LG-E973. I bought the Rogers because Bell will not sell new phones without selling/renewing a plan along with the phone.
So, to sum up, don't go buying a Rogers Optimus G hoping to get LTE to work on Bell (or Telus, I assume) after unlocking. You'll be out your $700 because shops won't accept the return if the phone has been unlocked.
Edit: Forgot to say, I get 4G HSPA speeds (pulling 15Mbps down on speedtest compared to 30Mbps down on a friend's iPhone 5 LTE connection) on Bell.
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How old is your Bell SIM? When I upgraded to an LTE device on Telus I needed the new SIM card. Without it, your device likely will not report LTE capabilities to Bell. If you look at the Galaxy S3, the SGH-i747 is identical for Bell, Telus and Rogers, and all support LTE and there are no issues bringing unlocked phones between the 3 carriers, so it doesn't make sense that the Optimus G itself would behave like this.
The sim card I have is a Bell LTE microsim, and it's getting LTE on my new LG-E973.
To clarify:
Rogers LTE microsim + LG-E971 unlocked = Rogers LTE connection
Bell LTE microsim + LG-E971 unlocked = NO Bell LTE connection
Bell LTE microsim + LG-E973 bought from Bell = Bell LTE connection
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joncwchao said:
The sim card I have is a Bell LTE microsim, and it's getting LTE on my new LG-E973.
To clarify:
Rogers LTE microsim + LG-E971 unlocked = Rogers LTE connection
Bell LTE microsim + LG-E971 unlocked = NO Bell LTE connection
Bell LTE microsim + LG-E973 bought from Bell = Bell LTE connection
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hey
do you know if the E973 (bell) would work on rogers LTE?
Unfortunately I would have to pay to get the E973 unlocked and buy another rogers sim (I sold mine already), so I don't have an answer for you. Sorry.
suerspud9 said:
hey
do you know if the E973 (bell) would work on rogers LTE?
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joncwchao said:
Unfortunately I would have to pay to get the E973 unlocked and buy another rogers sim (I sold mine already), so I don't have an answer for you. Sorry.
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no worries, thanks for posting your other results!

Rogers Optimus G is E971, not E973 as Stated in Canadian Development

So... Rogers Optimus G is LG-E971 and not E973. Should there be another Canadian forum section for this?
Is the E973 the version for Bell or Telus?
jonnyg1097 said:
Is the E973 the version for Bell or Telus?
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Both of them are e973 i believe.
Probably should just use one forum for all the Canadian devices since there is not a huge difference between the three. Just name it properly.
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from what i know all 3 devices are the same in-terms of specs but the Rogers version uses 2600 LTE frequency while Bell/Telus are still at 700. Not sure if its just a softwrae setting or the LTE chip might be different. To me i'm leaning toward software settings, but I really haven't looked to much into it because i'm with Bell.
jebise101 said:
from what i know all 3 devices are the same in-terms of specs but the Rogers version uses 2600 LTE frequency while Bell/Telus are still at 700. Not sure if its just a softwrae setting or the LTE chip might be different. To me i'm leaning toward software settings, but I really haven't looked to much into it because i'm with Bell.
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Regardless, this specific forum is for DEVELOPMENT, not discussion.
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Regardless, this specific forum is for DEVELOPMENT, not discussion.
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If there are hardware differences, then the Rogers device needs it's own development section.
jebise101 said:
from what i know all 3 devices are the same in-terms of specs but the Rogers version uses 2600 LTE frequency while Bell/Telus are still at 700. Not sure if its just a softwrae setting or the LTE chip might be different. To me i'm leaning toward software settings, but I really haven't looked to much into it because i'm with Bell.
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2600 is a new frequency specific to Rogers. 700 is not used. Robellus uses 1700/2100 (AWS) for LTE.
geokilla said:
If there are hardware differences, then the Rogers device needs it's own development section.
2600 is a new frequency specific to Rogers. 700 is not used. Robellus uses 1700/2100 (AWS) for LTE.
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The point is, discuss this in the general forum, not the DEVELOPMENT FORUM.
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The point is, discuss this in the general forum, not the DEVELOPMENT FORUM.
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yoooo mississauga got some sexy asian chicks ay. lol.
but on a "development note" it would be nice for someone to comfirm that bell, telus, rogers devices are sharing same type of hardware so that way no one will not brick or mess up real bad flashing a custom rom/kernel from one phone company device to another of the same country. just saying. but if these canadian companies has major differences between the two devices then that adds to my list of questions. why this country dont make sense but always down to make dollars!
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just double check and this is the GENERAL SECTION so why cant ppl ask "general questions"?
So are these two phones the same hardware ?
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They're not the same. The LTE chip is different at the very least. Canada doesn't have 700Mhz, so LTE comes from 2600Mhz that Rogers is rolling out. The standard frequencies for LTE are AWS frequencies.
solomon4400 said:
yoooo mississauga got some sexy asian chicks ay. lol.
but on a "development note" it would be nice for someone to comfirm that bell, telus, rogers devices are sharing same type of hardware so that way no one will not brick or mess up real bad flashing a custom rom/kernel from one phone company device to another of the same country. just saying. but if these canadian companies has major differences between the two devices then that adds to my list of questions. why this country dont make sense but always down to make dollars!
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just double check and this is the GENERAL SECTION so why cant ppl ask "general questions"?
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Because thread got moved.. And there's nothing to do in Mississauga!!! Plus sexy Asian chicks are everywhere
solomon4400 said:
yoooo mississauga got some sexy asian chicks ay. lol.
but on a "development note" it would be nice for someone to comfirm that bell, telus, rogers devices are sharing same type of hardware so that way no one will not brick or mess up real bad flashing a custom rom/kernel from one phone company device to another of the same country. just saying. but if these canadian companies has major differences between the two devices then that adds to my list of questions. why this country dont make sense but always down to make dollars!
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just double check and this is the GENERAL SECTION so why cant ppl ask "general questions"?
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So far, according to a couple people who have tried, CM 10.1 being ported from the N4 works on all the Canadian devices. In terms of whether the network connectivity poses any problems, nobody has mentioned anything about LTE issues on the Rogers phone, and neither chadouming nor myself have the E971.
So, the hardware seems to be basically identical (minus the modem) at this point, until we hear someone say something to the contrary.
It stands to reason that if the N4 can work on all major three with LTE after a settings change, then the Optimus G should be the same, just a different modem for frequency difference.
thracky said:
So far, according to a couple people who have tried, CM 10.1 being ported from the N4 works on all the Canadian devices. In terms of whether the network connectivity poses any problems, nobody has mentioned anything about LTE issues on the Rogers phone, and neither chadouming nor myself have the E971.
So, the hardware seems to be basically identical (minus the modem) at this point, until we hear someone say something to the contrary.
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whot u mean no wi-fi no nfc ?
iEthos said:
whot u mean no wi-fi no nfc ?
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There were problems with wifi and nfc not working but those have since been fixed
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Mryella said:
There were problems with wifi and nfc not working but those have since been fixed
Sent from my LG-E971 using Tapatalk 2
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Yes WIFI is working but NFC is not yet.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2
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[Q] Use Optimus G Pro on Wind Mobile in Canada

Hey Guys,
I noticed that the AT&T OGPro accepts the frequencies:
LTE 700 MHz Class 17 / 1700 / 2100 - for AT&T
HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100 - for AT&T
That being said, Wind Mobile here in Canada needs the 1700 and 2100 frequencies to work. I've gotten a Galaxy Note from AT&T to work on Wind before, but required some modified radio modems.
Would you guys expect the OGPro to work with Wind without any modifications just based on the phone being able to use these frequencies (as long as it is unlocked)?
Thanks for the advice in advance
James
I'm not on wind, but I just got the phone from New York, unlocked it and using it on fido/rogers. I'm getting full lte, all you need is the right apn settings. Check winds supported frequency, I believe there's is aws, not sure if it supports 1700/2100.
socacola said:
I'm not on wind, but I just got the phone from New York, unlocked it and using it on fido/rogers. I'm getting full lte, all you need is the right apn settings. Check winds supported frequency, I believe there's is aws, not sure if it supports 1700/2100.
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Alright that sounds good! How do you like it? Good feel? I'm gonna pick mine up from Buffalo tmr hopefully. Thanks!
jdantow said:
Alright that sounds good! How do you like it? Good feel? I'm gonna pick mine up from Buffalo tmr hopefully. Thanks!
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The phone is great. So far the only things I don't like is the at&t address book that pops up when you go into contacts, you can't turn this off, I had to root it to turn it off. Also there is a new update, which you can't download because the phone isn't registered to an at&t account, I'm hoping there is a way around this. The loudspeaker is a little weak, and I find that the wifi connection is really weak, not sure why that is, on my HTC one with speed test I get 20mbps download, from the exact same spot I get 3 mbps, I'm not sure why. That's all the cons I have so far. Everything else is amazing.

[Q] Using E980 with Mobilicity or Wind in Canada

I have recently purchased an LG Optimus G pro, LG E-980 - the ATT phone.
I am trying to set it up to use with my carrier Mobilicity here in Vancouver BC.
Mobilicity is on the AWS Band 4 frequency, just like WInd Mobile here in Canada and T-Mobile in the US.
The phone has been unlocked and rooted but when I try to select my carrier from the list under Network Carriers,
it does not appear.
The specs on this phone do indicate that it should work with this frequency but I cannot seem to get it to work.
I have added the appropriate APN settings for data and MMS but I cannot even get voice let alone data.
I have set the network mode to WCDMA Only but still no luck.
I have discovered the hidden menu but do not know what if any changes to make.
Any help or suggestions is greatly appreciated.
From my understanding of reading the specs is that this phone can support AWS (1700/2100).
Any thoughts?
Thank you
It should at least get EDGE to make voice calls. Where did you read that the E980 has AWS bands? It doesn't. It may work with LTE but not WCDMA. If it's not making voice calls, check swappa's ESN checker and see if the IMEI has been blocklisted.
it does support aws - for lte.
i read it in the specs and there are other users on this forum that are using it on tmobile lte
imei is fine and it doesn't do 2g voice only because this carrier only supports 3g aws for data - no edge
i am interested if the method mentioned on this forum titled "Enable AWS band (3g/4g Tmobile) on ATT Note 2 stock baseband" would work
that method has also been used for the same purpose on the samsung s4
I believe the s4 uses the same snapdragon 600 soc so i would like to know if this could be ported over to work with the g pro
not sure but newer player like mobilicity/wind do not have the 2g frequency....it use the 1700/2100 frequency... it should work since the ogp have the 1700 and the 2100 frequency...the same is for those who are on the T-Mobile in u.s.a....
yes i believe i said that mobilicity/wind do not support edge.
it does support 1700/2100 for lte - that is confirmed.
trying to find out if phone can be modded to support wcdma 1700/2100
if it should then great - does anyone know how to proceed.
thanks
Tried to contact OP but haven't heard back for over a week now and just wondering if this can indeed work with Wind/Mobi network? Anyone have this workign? It "seems" like it should work...
markfp said:
yes i believe i said that mobilicity/wind do not support edge.
it does support 1700/2100 for lte - that is confirmed.
trying to find out if phone can be modded to support wcdma 1700/2100
if it should then great - does anyone know how to proceed.
thanks
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Tried to contact OP but haven't heard back for over a week now and just wondering if this can indeed work with Wind/Mobi network? Anyone have this workign? It "seems" like it should work...
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I never did manage to get this working. I kept searching online but no info was available.
I believe it can be done, but I don't know how.
This link also confirms this but gives no further data.
http://awslookup.com/modem-flashable-phones/
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Good luck and please let me know if you have success.
Cheers
I was hoping to buy this phone to use on Wind's network and save myself a few hundred instead of buying the LG's G2 (end up buying that). I tried contacting Wind and they said it needs to have both the 1700/2100 band but it seems to need something else on top of that. GL and hope you figure it out.
markfp said:
I never did manage to get this working. I kept searching online but no info was available.
I believe it can be done, but I don't know how.
This link also confirms this but gives no further data.
http://awslookup.com/modem-flashable-phones/
*** see "Optimus G Pro (E980)" ***
Good luck and please let me know if you have success.
Cheers
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Can I use LTE with Fido using my SGH-T889V Galaxy Note 2 (purchased from mobilicity)

Hey guys. I ditched mobilicity due to 0 coverage. I unlocked this T889V using the service mode method. The phone is not rooted.
It worked with Fido but data was not working. I called Fido and they told me to [email protected] off because it isn't their phone.
Googled around and found the Fido APN settings. Now data is working but it is only 3G.
Is there a painless way for LTE to work ? The fido SIM is a LTE SIM.
If not LTE then even 4G would be nice.
Thanks !
THS1989 said:
Hey guys. I ditched mobilicity due to 0 coverage. I unlocked this T889V using the service mode method. The phone is not rooted.
It worked with Fido but data was not working. I called Fido and they told me to [email protected] off because it isn't their phone.
Googled around and found the Fido APN settings. Now data is working but it is only 3G.
Is there a painless way for LTE to work ? The fido SIM is a LTE SIM.
If not LTE then even 4G would be nice.
Thanks !
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dont think it will work
cuz i bought note 2 from mobilicity and now im using it under bell lte sim card and only get 3g speed
airkenada said:
dont think it will work
cuz i bought note 2 from mobilicity and now im using it under bell lte sim card and only get 3g speed
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Are you on the updated OTA 4.3 ROM?
What is the baseband version on your device?
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Lloyd Christmas said:
Are you on the updated OTA 4.3 ROM?
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yep
I don't think the T889 will support LTE on Fido.
www.fido.ca/web/content/phonewarranty/configure_unlocked_device_guide&lang=en
Check out the bands for LTE used by Fido (Rogers) [2100/2600]. 2600mHz is not supported on the T889. LTE needs both bands to work with one for upload and one for download. It will support Fido's HSPA but their network is limited to 21 mbps (theoretically possible). Also check to see if LTE is active in your area for your carrier.
Check out the AT&T note 2 forum here for the topic of t mobile note 2 on AT&T for information on getting them running. AT&T and Rogers devices are very similar in supported bands IIRC. I doubt you will find anything earth shattering though.
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I'd wait before Videotron launches their LTE (should be soon-ish) before doing anything too risky. Why Videotron? They also sell the T889V and should upgrade the modems then to enable it, or so I believe.
If you just can't wait, there's always my LTE guide, but there's currently no coming back from that procedure. Also: I don't believe anyone has confirmed if the procedure worked with phones having been upgraded to 4.3.
The Canadian "Big Three" (Bell, Rogers, Telus) have deployed LTE on AWS (band 4 - 1700 and 2100 MHz combined) and 2600 MHz. 700 MHz has been auctionned off and should eventually work on the LTE Note 2.
@Coug76 : wow this page is just wrong about their LTE being on 2100 MHz (band 1) and not AWS and this will just confuse the heck out of people. (I understand some early LTE-capable iPhone and iPad marketing material made the same glaring mistake.) Industry Canada's licensing database will back me up on this one, as well as the ITU's regional frequency assignments.
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I'd wait before Videotron launches their LTE (should be soon-ish) before doing anything too risky. Why Videotron? They also sell the T889V and should upgrade the modems then to enable it, or so I believe.
If you just can't wait, there's always my LTE guide, but there's currently no coming back from that procedure. Also: I don't believe anyone has confirmed if the procedure worked with phones having been upgraded to 4.3.
The Canadian "Big Three" (Bell, Rogers, Telus) have deployed LTE on AWS (band 4 - 1700 and 2100 MHz combined) and 2600 MHz. 700 MHz has been auctionned off and should eventually work on the LTE Note 2.
@Coug76 : wow this page is just wrong about their LTE being on 2100 MHz (band 1) and not AWS and this will just confuse the heck out of people. (I understand some early LTE-capable iPhone and iPad marketing material made the same glaring mistake.) Industry Canada's licensing database will back me up on this one, as well as the ITU's regional frequency assignments.
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Working together, we CAN convince Fido to change their minds about what frequencies they REALLY use vs. what they publish as a reference for their customers. Power ti the people!
I don't think I will bother with a sternly worded letter to the editor. I'll leave such limited actions to those who take these things lightly. Matters such as these demand immediate, clear, and unequivocal intervention! I'm calling the Governor General's office. Comrades, we can start a letter writing campaign! We can't fail when Industry Canada has our back...
Viva la Revolucion!
Or.
Alternately.
You mad, bro?
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lol, not really.
Nonetheless, people might make an incorrect and expensive purchase based on this page as it comes up among the first ones on this topic.
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lol, not really.
Nonetheless, people might make an incorrect and expensive purchase based on this page as it comes up among the first ones on this topic.
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Sorry, blood sugar was low and I got all Drama Queen and stuff. Thanks for being cool.
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