[Q] Can the S-Pen be used on other touch screens? - Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Apologies if this has been asked before, but can someone reliably inform me if the S-Pen can be used on other touchscreens not officially supporting the S-Pen?

do7slash said:
Apologies if this has been asked before, but can someone reliably inform me if the S-Pen can be used on other touchscreens not officially supporting the S-Pen?
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The GN2 S Pen will work on Galaxy Tab devices with S Pen, but you couldn't for example, use it with a HTC or iPhone.
The S Pen is a Wacom device, so needs the handset to have a Wacom screen & drivers to work.
That's a very basic explanation, but you should get the idea.

CitizenLee said:
The GN2 S Pen will work on Galaxy Tab devices with S Pen, but you couldn't for example, use it with a HTC or iPhone.
The S Pen is a Wacom device, so needs the handset to have a Wacom screen & drivers to work.
That's a very basic explanation, but you should get the idea.
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To add to this, the technology behind the spen is largely driven by the software side of things so for it to work you need both the compatible software and hardware.
It doesn't operate the same as a capactive stylus, which is a good thing as it is how we can get such percision from the pen.

thanks guys for the quick and informative responses, understand now

I can use my s pen with my thinkpad tablet pc. And use my thinkpads stylus with the note 2
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hyelton said:
I can use my s pen with my thinkpad tablet pc. And use my thinkpads stylus with the note 2
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In that case it must have a Wacom stylus and digitizer

CitizenLee said:
The GN2 S Pen will work on Galaxy Tab devices with S Pen, but you couldn't for example, use it with a HTC or iPhone.
The S Pen is a Wacom device, so needs the handset to have a Wacom screen & drivers to work.
That's a very basic explanation, but you should get the idea.
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Does that mean the S-Pen will work with the Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 P3100??
I have tried to get a definitive answer, but nothing so far??

No because it is a potentiometer stylus. That means it converts the movement of the pen into electrical signals. That requires a power source which it doesn't have. The digitizer create a magnetic field which powers the spen.
So other phone don't have it and you can't use spen with them. You can use a conductive stylus which just stimulates your fingers
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Can the note 3 pen be used with the s7 edge? If so, what software is needed? I really miss being able to use it since my note 7 was recalled.

So will the s pen purchased separately work with the galaxy a tab 10.1 WUXGA

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[Q] Styus Question

Is the stylus is special like the ones you get with a Tablet PC or is just a plastic tip. Hoping for the plastic tip even though the other can be programmed sometimes.
I ask because I have 2 awesome stylus that I have put away a few years ago when everything became 'touch' with your finger .. Being I am in the jewelry business I have a Tiffany stylus and also one that a jeweler made for me from an antique pen .. the tip is ivory .. Thought I would never get to use these again.
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It is special
Wacom digitizer.
Thanks. I think that my HP Tablet uses a Wacom Digitizer pen and I never use my HP tablet any more .. Laptops seem so big to me since the iPad and my Galaxy Tab.
'Some' Wacom Pens will work with the Note as will 'some' Tablet PC that supports Wacom.
Best thing about using these pens is:-
1. They are much easier to hold than the Note's S-Pen (the button is difficult to locate and press).
2. A lot of Wacom Pens (especially those found on Tablet PC's) have an 'Eraser' on the opposite end. This means you don't have to go back to the menu to select the eraser, you simply turn the pen over and use it as an eraser.
Well, not all Wacom styluses work. The Wacom Bamboo ones don't work with it.
Vulpix said:
Well, not all Wacom styluses work. The Wacom Bamboo ones don't work with it.
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I did say 'most', not all.
Beards said:
Most Wacom Pens will work with the Note as will any Tablet PC that supports Wacom.
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I can tell you that the stylus (with eraser) from my ancient pre-Intuos Wacom digitizer (ca. 1997) does NOT work.
my wacom intuos 3 pen does not work
Okay.... I've amended my post to the word 'Some'.
I'll recontact my contact at Samsung and ask them to clarify.
I have a HP Pavillion tablet notebook .. Maybe 3 years old. That pen worked on my Note ..

C-pen samsung

I just tried the samsung pen and it is not as good as expected. Its not crisp and quick. Writing with my finger is better. So the pen goes back to the maker.
It may have to do with the screen protector but I doubt it.
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vasp3690 said:
It may have to do with the screen protector but I doubt it.
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Removing my screen protector helped a bit but I'm still not impressed either.
How did you expect it to work? It's not smart like the s-pen on the note. All it is meant to do is replace a finger.
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Lennyuk said:
How did you expect it to work? It's not smart like the s-pen on the note. All it is meant to do is replace a finger.
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True. I didn't expect it to be better than s-note, but I didn't also expect to be worse than my finger!!
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vasp3690 said:
True. I didn't expect it to be better than s-note, but I didn't also expect to be worse than my finger!!
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My thoughts exactly!
I'm using one of those cheap stylus pens often bundled with cases and I found that it's better than my finger. Don't see the need for a c - pen know I know it's not an improvement
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Alex Charles said:
I'm using one of those cheap stylus pens often bundled with cases and I found that it's better than my finger. Don't see the need for a c - pen know I know it's not an improvement
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do you remember which one was that?
i thought id find the c-pen and memo usefull if i could write in a similar fashion as when taking notes on a paper. (well as close as it can get)
This is just Samsung cashing in on the popularity of S-Pen and charging 40 times the price of some capacitive pens with no better results.
You could tell by all of the pictures that the CPen is a gimmick. I was very disappointed when they didn't replicate the Note's SPen.
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CreekDirt said:
You could tell by all of the pictures that the CPen is a gimmick. I was very disappointed when they didn't replicate the Note's SPen.
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Well, it is has a 3mm tip according to the specs. This is much smaller than a capacitive stylus.
I don't understand why they would change what already works. Does it have a button like the Note stylus?
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No. No buttons on it
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C pen a big failure
The C-pen is a complete failure, its really bad, i expected it to be better than galaxy note as there is a lotta hype created for samsung galaxy s3. I was completely taken aback with its sad precision and smoothness.The way Samsung is going i thought they must have definitely improved the feel of thw cpen but it was not. this is a set back.
CreekDirt said:
I don't understand why they would change what already works. Does it have a button like the Note stylus?
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The Note is marketed to a specific segment, completely different from the Galaxy S line of phones. The Note uses a Wacom digitizer for the stylus that is much more precise, whereas the S3 uses a traditional capacitive pen because it isn't marketed to have the same kind of stylus functionality as the Note (and the Wacom digitizer does add a certain amount cost) - otherwise they'd include the stylus with the S3 the same way it's included with the Note.
Actually, the C-Pen is more than a regular capacitive stylus since it apparently doesn't work with other capacitive screens for some reason, but the principle is still the same. It's like wondering why your cell phone is missing the nice 10 inch screen from a tablet.
creon100 said:
The Note is marketed to a specific segment, completely different from the Galaxy S line of phones. The Note uses a Wacom digitizer for the stylus that is much more precise, whereas the S3 uses a traditional capacitive pen because it isn't marketed to have the same kind of stylus functionality as the Note (and the Wacom digitizer does add a certain amount cost) - otherwise they'd include the stylus with the S3 the same way it's included with the Note.
Actually, the C-Pen is more than a regular capacitive stylus since it apparently doesn't work with other capacitive screens for some reason, but the principle is still the same. It's like wondering why your cell phone is missing the nice 10 inch screen from a tablet.
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It is a step backwards. Sure the Note was a niche market, but they didn't skimp on the stylus for it. SMemo and SNote can't be the same with the CPen. IMO they should've stuck with the design even if it is an optional accessory. It adds more functionality.
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I just don't like the implication through omission of details Samsung are making that this is like the S Pen, I mean I just think they want to trick people to believing this can do the same job as S Pen because obviously it's got a similar name and they making no effort to explain it.
CreekDirt said:
It is a step backwards. Sure the Note was a niche market, but they didn't skimp on the stylus for it. SMemo and SNote can't be the same with the CPen. IMO they should've stuck with the design even if it is an optional accessory. It adds more functionality.
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Adding the Wacom digitizer adds cost to the phone, so the phone would have cost more with it included. It makes sense to not include it when this is marketed to those wanting a regular phone, whereas those that are looking for specific stylus functionality can go to the Note.
creon100 said:
Adding the Wacom digitizer adds cost to the phone, so the phone would have cost more with it included. It makes sense to not include it when this is marketed to those wanting a regular phone, whereas those that are looking for specific stylus functionality can go to the Note.
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I understand why they didn't offer the pen with the phone and why the Note would have one. Why they didn't make an SPen that is compatible is what I am wondering. Cost isn't an issue when sold as an accessory.
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CreekDirt said:
I understand why they didn't offer the pen with the phone and why the Note would have one. Why they didn't make an SPen that is compatible is what I am wondering. Cost isn't an issue when sold as an accessory.
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I can see why they'd sell it as an accessory but I would hope it actually worked properly. Once the word is out that its crap, noone will get it.
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I tried this C-pen as well and it's a PoS.
Ironically, I've just taken delivery of a charging stand that comes with a free pen (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0080R6MW0/ref=oh_details_o03_s01_i00) and that one works better than the C-pen. (And it's an ink pen too!)
Couldn't make it up.

Any advice on using the S Pen for Windows?

I'd like to use the S Pen on my GN2 as stylus input for windows. So I'd draw on my GN2's screen and it would register on my laptop's screen. Does anybody know of any apps or conglomerations of programs and apps that will let me do this? Specifically I want to be able to draw things in OneNote 2013 for class.
EDIT: I found a few things, feel free to comment or add more ways to do this.
1. S-Tablet app
2. Use Galaxy Note as Graphics Tablet for PC
3. Use Android phone as native Windows 8 input
Thanks for this, I was wondering too. I need it to draw squiggly lines in Illustrator.
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that's not possible. the stylus on the note relies on a special sensor behind the screen to relay it's info. have you tried the stylus on an s3? it doesn't work there either...
you can get a bamboo or some other wacom tablet but it wouldn't overlay on your screen but rather it would work like a mouse pad http://m.wacom.com/ce/ext1102/index.html#products
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reinaldistic said:
that's not possible. the stylus on the note relies on a special sensor behind the screen to relay it's info. have you tried the stylus on an s3? it doesn't work there either...
you can get a bamboo or some other wacom tablet but it wouldn't overlay on your screen but rather it would work like a mouse pad http://m.wacom.com/ce/ext1102/index.html#products
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They are talking about using the note 2 as an input device, not just the stylus. I habe no need for it since I habe a 24" wacom writing screen embedded in my desk
I like to break stuff!
I know this is an old thread but I just found a way better app to be used
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sunnysidesoft.VirtualTablet.lite
And there is now. You were only 5 years ahead of Samsung.
Look up the Samsung notebook pro! https://news.samsung.com/us/samsung-introduces-new-notebook-9-pro-slim-powerful-pc-embedded-s-pen/
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It would easily work, but why bother?
The Note2's pen is a standard Wacom stylus, so you can use any Wacom digitizer or touch input to interface the "S-Pen" with Windows. That said, the S-Pen isn't all that good of a stylus, and whatever tablet PC (or drawing pad) that you'd be using it with probably originally came with a better stylus, so the whole endeavor would really be rather pointless.

Help me choose a pen

Hey there,
so I've been using some standard noname pen for some drawing apps along with my S3... but truth is I really hate it.
Its one of those with a pretty thick writing piece, it gives a feeling of not exactly knowing what you draw or what you are tapping onto.
So I was looking for another pen, a pen with a pretty slim tip, giving a more controled experience.
First thing i noticed is that there really aren't alot of those. The ones I've been looking at are made by samsung for their galaxy note and galaxy tab devices.
So here is the question: Are those pens basically compatible with the S3? Who can really give me assurance it will be working?
This is one of the pens I'm talking about: Samsung ETC-S1J9SE
This is the S3 pen with really really bad reviews (I really don't want to buy that one): Samsung ETC-S10CSEG (C pen)
Can someone provide info or suggest another pen?
Thanks in advance!
swent
PS: All I want is basic touch functionality, I know some of these pens have extra buttons or rubber features, I don't care for these extra functions.
swent said:
Hey there,
so I've been using some standard noname pen for some drawing apps along with my S3... but truth is I really hate it.
Its one of those with a pretty thick writing piece, it gives a feeling of not exactly knowing what you draw or what you are tapping onto.
So I was looking for another pen, a pen with a pretty slim tip, giving a more controled experience.
First thing i noticed is that there really aren't alot of those. The ones I've been looking at are made by samsung for their galaxy note and galaxy tab devices.
So here is the question: Are those pens basically compatible with the S3? Who can really give me assurance it will be working?
This is one of the pens I'm talking about: Samsung ETC-S1J9SE
This is the S3 pen with really really bad reviews (I really don't want to buy that one): Samsung ETC-S10CSEG (C pen)
Can someone provide info or suggest another pen?
Thanks in advance!
swent
PS: All I want is basic touch functionality, I know some of these pens have extra buttons or rubber features, I don't care for these extra functions.
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besides the S pen, another popular one is adonit jot
you can find the s pen cheaper on ebay. was gonna get one for 15.
The note actually has a different interface for the stylus I belive it is similar to a wacom tab, if I recall correctly it uses wacom tech. I don't believe the stylus for the note will work properly with the s3
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The note actually has a different interface for the stylus I belive it is similar to a wacom tab, if I recall correctly it uses wacom tech. I don't believe the stylus for the note will work properly with the s3
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I can assure the the note2 pen doesnt work. I tried it at the local phone center.
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What Wacom Pens/Styluses (if any) work on the Tab S4?

So I wanted to get another pressure sensitive stylus for my Tab S4 when I read somewhere that (on top of being based on Wacom technology) that some Wacom pens can work on Samsung tablets.
I tried a lot of googling, reading spec sheets, and so on when I ran across this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1837743.
I'm not sure how accurate still is and, if it is still accurate, I'd like some clarification on which Wacom pens are being referred to specifically.
Basically, I'd like to know:
---Are there any Wacom pens that work on the Tab S4?
------If yes, what are they?
------If yes, does it provide similar pressure/tilt and navigation functionality as an S Pen? (Or everything an S Pen does outside of the special air wizard)
Thank you for your time
~bw
blue-wanderer said:
So I wanted to get another pressure sensitive stylus for my Tab S4 when I read somewhere that (on top of being based on Wacom technology) that some Wacom pens can work on Samsung tablets.
I tried a lot of googling, reading spec sheets, and so on when I ran across this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1837743.
I'm not sure how accurate still is and, if it is still accurate, I'd like some clarification on which Wacom pens are being referred to specifically.
Basically, I'd like to know:
---Are there any Wacom pens that work on the Tab S4?
------If yes, what are they?
------If yes, does it provide similar pressure/tilt and navigation functionality as an S Pen? (Or everything an S Pen does outside of the special air wizard)
Thank you for your time
~bw
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There's the Staedtler pen https://www.amazon.com/Staedtler-Di...e=UTF8&qid=1535000235&sr=8-2&keywords=emr+pen (30 usd)
samsung https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-EJ-P...e=UTF8&qid=1535000235&sr=8-4&keywords=emr+pen
hp https://www.amazon.com/HP-Smart-Buy...=UTF8&qid=1535000235&sr=8-11&keywords=emr+pen (eraser should work)
toshiba https://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-PA33...F8&qid=1535000292&sr=8-7&keywords=toshiba+pen (eraser works)
https://www.amazon.com/Zodiac-Digit..._rd_t=40701&psc=1&refRID=7CDQ7RCJN5FTBFEAQBMQ
there's a few.
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dcoke said:
There's the Staedtler pen (30 usd)
samsung
hp (eraser should work)
toshiba (eraser works)
Thinkpad one
there's a few.
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Hey dcoke, I wanted to just thank you for all of your suggestions.
After a lot of research I ended up sticking with a Samsung stylus (for pressure sensitivity & other related reasons) but I appreciated your answer all the same and just wanted thank you .
My CS 3002 Wacoms work like a charm. Precision, Pressure and Tilt are perfect
does the tab s4 have all the features of the note9 digitizer and apps?
yourmumsbootloader said:
does the tab s4 have all the features of the note9 digitizer and apps?
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I assume so. Outside of the bluetooth multimedia control S-Pen.
As for the other guy, Wacom Digitizers determine tilt and sensitivity support, not the stylus itself. Since I tried the old Samsung stylus that I bought for my Note Pro 12.2 and it had tilt support in it, though it came out well before Samsung started implementing support for it. That's when I learned it was the digitizer under the screen determining those characteristics.
Has anyone tried the Bamboo Tip? I really like the construction on Bamboo pens but am not sure if this works on the S4.

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