Hello. I bought both a Sprint and Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 2. Amoung the many differences is the S PEN. The Sprint one does not have tne non-touch of the stylus to perform funtions on the phone.
For example, I can swipe pages or select a function without ever touching the screen with Verizon' stylus. And both sylus' are compatible with ea h phone. Tne manuals are correct for version.
My question: Has any body else experieced this. Is there a way to tell which stylus model you have? Would buying one off from Samsung products page help? Thanks!
My guess is what you are experiencing as non-touch S-Pen activities are actually the result of a mis-calibrated S-Pen. The S-Pen can actually be calibrated by carefully removing the button and turning the potentiometer nearest the tip clockwise with a tiny screwdriver. ( Clockwise decreases sensitivity )
I did this myself, and it solved the problem of Air-View activating touch elements. My service is with Sprint, by the way.
Are you finding other differences?
1Brite1 said:
Hello. I bought both a Sprint and Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 2. Amoung the many differences is the S PEN. The Sprint one does not have tne non-touch of the stylus to perform funtions on the phone.
For example, I can swipe pages or select a function without ever touching the screen with Verizon' stylus. And both sylus' are compatible with ea h phone. Tne manuals are correct for version.
My question: Has any body else experieced this. Is there a way to tell which stylus model you have? Would buying one off from Samsung products page help? Thanks!
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There are no differences between the two. As mentioned in your other thread (Verizon GNII section), my roommate has the Verizon flavor and each stylus works the same with both of our phones.
Here is the solution for a mis-calibrated pen - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34995231
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I guess my point is...which is correct? Should you be able to use it without touching the screen like Verizon manual shows, or do you have to use the hover feature with the light beam like the Sprint manual tutorial shows? Each is different. Thdy both work as it is stated for each carrier. ThT is what got me to finally post to see if anyone else who might have both to do a side by side comparison. Thanks!
1Brite1 said:
I guess my point is...which is correct? Should you be able to use it without touching the screen like Verizon manual shows, or do you have to use the hover feature with the light beam like the Sprint manual tutorial shows? Each is different. Thdy both work as it is stated for each carrier. ThT is what got me to finally post to see if anyone else who might have both to do a side by side comparison. Thanks!
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your Sprint one is correct the thing you are experiencing on the Verizon one is a bug that had also been reported (and fixed) on the Sprint version... although if you like it better there is nothing wrong with "uncalibrating" your Sprint stylus so that air view touches on your Sprint one too... it's more of a matter of personal preference
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reinaldistic said:
your Sprint one is correct the thing you are experiencing on the Verizon one is a bug that had also been reported (and fixed) on the Sprint version... although if you like it better there is nothing wrong with "uncalibrating" your Sprint stylus so that air view touches on your Sprint one too... it's more of a matter of personal preference
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Finally an answer. Thank you! I will be trying the "uncalibrating" method as it is really cool. Have a great day.
I guess I am going to have to actually go into the Verizon and Sprint stores to look at their models as even after "calibrating" both, they still function the same. Like I said before, the Verizon S Pen not actually having to touch the screen is totally cool. If you want to swipe to a different page it does it in the air. If you want to select a function or App, you just "tap" it without touching the screen. It has no round circle indicator that shows up like the Sprint model. I can't believe that I am the only one to have this working like this.
I tried the hard tap calibrating and also where you take the actual button cover off and calibrate to try to make them the same but they both still do their thing. And both S Pens function the same way if I use them on either phone. Trust me, if you could get this to work you would love it. I just wish I could figure out how to get the Sprint S Pen to do the same as it seems like it is missing something after using the one from Verizon.
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All it is is that your Verizon s-pen has the pen nib jammed in so it always thinks it is touching the screen. When you get close to the screen, the Wacom technology kicks in. You can test this pretty easily. On your Sprint s-pen hold it against your pinky and do the same thing as you do with your Verizon one. It will move around without touching the screen. That's also the reason why you don't get the air view functionality on the Verizon because it always thinks it is touching the screen. Hope this helps.
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Yea! You are totally right. I wasn't sure at first what you meant by the pinky thing, but once I put my pinky on the tip of the S Pen and tried to swipe or whatever, it works. I guess now I just need to "jam" the rib in on the Sprint one and I will be good to go! HA! Thanks so much. You made my night.
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Are there any Stylus' that work like the HTC Digital Pen?
I notice that when one is used on the Jetstream, there's an icon which allows you to change pen settings ect. I think that's the only reason I'd choose an HTC Tablet atm.
I don't think the Galaxy Tab has a digitizer layer like the flyer, jetstream, or thinkpad tablet. You can use a capacitive stylus to make annotations, but it's not the same as having a digitizer pen.
Fine Point Cap Stylus
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Flaco05 said:
I don't think the Galaxy Tab has a digitizer layer like the flyer, jetstream, or thinkpad tablet. You can use a capacitive stylus to make annotations, but it's not the same as having a digitizer pen.
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Wrong.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhUcZ51FNQQ&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzXWa0FQhfM
How is it that what I posted is wrong? The Galaxy tab does not have a digitizer.
Flaco05 said:
How is it that what I posted is wrong? The Galaxy tab does not have a digitizer.
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Your right m8... Our Tab 10.1's don't have the hardware or software for that matter to do any type of drawing or accurate hand written notes like the Flyer or Jetstream. I had the Flyer before I got my Tab... I keep the styles in hopes that it would work with my Tab, it didn't.
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conchchowder said:
Wrong.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhUcZ51FNQQ&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzXWa0FQhfM
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Note even close to what the OP was asking...
But I'll give you a plus 1... Perrty kewl little toy.
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conchchowder said:
Wrong.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhUcZ51FNQQ&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzXWa0FQhfM
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Yeah, cool toy, but not even close to what the OP was asking. And you're wrong. There is no digitizer layer in the GT10, so your best bet is a capacitive stylus. Or a sausage.
I've posted this elsewhere, but I'll repeat it here - I bought the Wacom Bamboo Stylus for my iPad2, and it worked brilliantly with the iPad. I have since sold the iPad and got the GalTab 10.1, and the Bamboo barely works at all. It cant be used for POINT selection (pushing a button on a webpage or game) and it doesnt DRAW well unless you push down really hard - almost like the screen needs pressure depression in order to register.
I relied HEAVILY on the stylus on the iPad for both drawing and basic navigation, and that it doesnt work on the GalTab is disappointing. I dont know what the problem is, or what technically causes the difference, or if it's just the Bamboo, but it just doesnt work.
(And I cant imagine it's a problem with the Bamboo as all the stylii are essentially the same thing - just varying quality.)
Check out the App "TouchScreenTune" in the Development Forum or in the Android Market. You need Root to use it, but it solves your problem (especially about drawing)
Thank you... after reading through about 12 pages of posts (hard coming into a device this late and keeping up), I finally found that. Not sure I want to root yet - until now, getting rid of the Navbar was my #1 reason to root, but TSTune just moved up to the #1 spot. Waiting for Cyanogen, though.
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Thank you... after reading through about 12 pages of posts (hard coming into a device this late and keeping up), I finally found that. Not sure I want to root yet - until now, getting rid of the Navbar was my #1 reason to root, but TSTune just moved up to the #1 spot. Waiting for Cyanogen, though.
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Just root it. It's super easy. Tasks rom is incredible and with the tst app its just awesome.
It's not a matter of it being "easy", but if I want to. I'm on my fourth Android phone, the first 3 were rooted and ROMed - several times, the fourth doesnt need it... yet.
So far I have only TWO things I want to change that I can only get through rooting/ROMs... I'm not sure that's enough.
For me task's roms were the only driver for rooting.
With this installed the device was literally reborn!
The user experience is like night and day, I will never regret it.
After that i also installed TouchScreenTune...well now with a stylus (Adonit Jot Pro) and Supernote I no longer use paper for taking notes! It's just amazing.
I just picked up my note 2 from evo3d last night. Once I got home I felt a HUGE disappoint from leaving my 3d woth cm10 coming to touchwiz and how BIG everything is. Day two, im a little more at ease after some sleep.
My biggest issue is just how huge everything is. I know once I root it and change dpi down it may look more normal for me. Im used to using a small font with and small font settings.
However my biggest hurdle is how unstable this thing feels in one hand. I constsntly feel like I may drop it because the only way to truley be able to use one hand and access everything is to rest the phone on your four fingers while using your thumb to navigate. Versus having end of your other fingers having a sturdy hold on left side of phone like normal.
Using the one-handed option does help for typing and such, but its mainly not being able to reach notification bar while having the firm grip versus resting on four fingers.
Having a inner struggle weather I want to keep this or go exchange for the gs3 later today or tomorrow. I use my phone with one hand a lot so thats a huge issue for me.
Has anyone else gone thru this while switching too the note2? If so how long does it take for that too go away.
Also im curious as to what kind of stylus support aosp roms will have. I know it will work for touching the screen but I mean as far as default samsung note apps and such? I know I will be going back to cm10 on this or the gs3. But if we will lose a lot of stylus support then I dont reslly see a need for the note over the gs3 with only .7 inches of extra screen real estate.
Any input would be great! Thanks
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So why didn't you go into a store and play with it BEFORE dropping all that coinage, getting home and then complaining about it afterwards? It's not as if you didn't have that as an option.
I went to a store today and spent some time with it. Currently have an S3 that i love. I would have no problem using a Note 2 as my primary device but i don't think i would want something that big ALL the time, hence i would prefer the S3.
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Also im curious as to what kind of stylus support aosp roms will have. I know it will work for touching the screen but I mean as far as default samsung note apps and such? I know I will be going back to cm10 on this or the gs3. But if we will lose a lot of stylus support then I dont reslly see a need for the note over the gs3 with only .7 inches of extra screen real estate.
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None. Seriously. None at all.
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So why didn't you go into a store and play with it BEFORE dropping all that coinage, getting home and then complaining about it afterwards? It's not as if you didn't have that as an option.
I went to a store today and spent some time with it. Currently have an S3 that i love. I would have no problem using a Note 2 as my primary device but i don't think i would want something that big ALL the time, hence i would prefer the S3.
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Well I did play with it. The disappointment was short and mainly just like with going from anything you know well and are used to, to something new and unfamiliar. Once its rooted and I can change DPI that will resolve the elderly resolution issue.
AS I've actually had a full day to play with it I love it. Homestly the only issue I somewhat have is the unstable feeling while handling with one hand making long stretches with my thumb. Im sure after awhile longer, that too will pass.
Just ready to be on good ole cm10 again.
And as far as toying with it. I did, but you arent able to get a full accurate grasp on any of the phones with the bulky security piece glued too the back with the strecthy cord.
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I feel you then. I have big hands and can balance the Note 2 fairly well in one hand.
On my S3 I have a nandroid of BlackBean 6 JellyBean (AOKP) that i was running for a while but i'll have to say that the new TWiz is very nice. I like the subtle changes to the UI systemwide. Currently running FreeGS3 JellyBean (Twiz ROM) and it's fantastic. Never expected a Twiz ROM to draw me away from AOKP.
Right now, any phone feels small to me.
Honestly, I can even go a BIT BIGGER than the note 2
Not wider, but longer.
You just get used to it.
Have you tried a different launcher? I too came from the evo 3d and now laugh quietly when I look at my wife's original evo. I use nova prime and cannot say enough about it. And go get yourself a case. I bought the Samsung case in the acces forum and got it today, not too much bulk and I can now sleep at night.
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I just picked up my note 2 from evo3d last night. Once I got home I felt a HUGE disappoint from leaving my 3d woth cm10 coming to touchwiz and how BIG everything is. Day two, im a little more at ease after some sleep.
My biggest issue is just how huge everything is. I know once I root it and change dpi down it may look more normal for me. Im used to using a small font with and small font settings.
However my biggest hurdle is how unstable this thing feels in one hand. I constsntly feel like I may drop it because the only way to truley be able to use one hand and access everything is to rest the phone on your four fingers while using your thumb to navigate. Versus having end of your other fingers having a sturdy hold on left side of phone like normal.
Using the one-handed option does help for typing and such, but its mainly not being able to reach notification bar while having the firm grip versus resting on four fingers.
Having a inner struggle weather I want to keep this or go exchange for the gs3 later today or tomorrow. I use my phone with one hand a lot so thats a huge issue for me.
Has anyone else gone thru this while switching too the note2? If so how long does it take for that too go away.
Also im curious as to what kind of stylus support aosp roms will have. I know it will work for touching the screen but I mean as far as default samsung note apps and such? I know I will be going back to cm10 on this or the gs3. But if we will lose a lot of stylus support then I dont reslly see a need for the note over the gs3 with only .7 inches of extra screen real estate.
Any input would be great! Thanks
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Just to address the size issue, I remember when I got my Evo 4G, thinking it was pretty nice but maybe too big. It took about a day to get over that. I always miss my previous phone for a day or two, but new phones always provide the benefit of new technology. I had the first Note version in blue and now got the Note II in white. At first I thought it was way too bright, but in a day loved it better than the first. I didn't think I would like the slightly narrower version, but find it fits better in my hand, and again, like the new technology. I am giving you my personal guarantee if you use it for a week, you will not go back. And you can fiddle with it, and eventually you will get cm10 or something newer. It's great.
I did the same exact thing. Except I first grabbed an sgs3. I love the note 2. It's never felt too large for me. I do have big hands but even so one handed text entry is suffering. I find swype style keyboards work best. As soon as SwiftKey releases their new beta ill switch to that. I enjoy SwiftKey for most entry but a split keyboard is a must in landscape. At this point I have 7 imes loaded so I clearly haven't found the perfect set yet. Stick with it, the note is hard to beat in all categories right now.
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I laugh at the nexus I gave my wife.. And I loved that phone. I could go bigger too... waitress walked up to my table today and said "man that's a big-ass phone"
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Just wanted to thank all of ypu above for the encouragement to stick with it. After finding out the phone couldn't take pictures while on phone and the lack of SVDO and only SVLTE (which isn't in my area until beginning of next year) I was dead set on returning it.
I think got a helpful tip that the camera can be fixed thru a small false to true value chane in the features xml.
I went to my cousins to toy with his gs3 and let him play with this before returning it. (Also note that talking to him on phone yesterday he said he didnt think he could manage anything bigger than his gs3)
Turns out the moment he saw it he started drooling over it. He wants one now! Needless to say I second guessed returning it just because of the lack of SVDO. So I guess I will be keeping it because im definitely starting to love this thing more and more.
So thanks again to everyone who said hang in there. Cant wait top see how this community is compared to the evo and evo3d community with the constant drama and disrespect towards devs.
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If this phone can do SVDO, it would be the shizzn
... And to me, will be the perfect phone (for now)
get a flygrip for onehanded use. doubles as a kick stand in portrait and landscape
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I've got an evo3d and $300 I'll give you for it
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I've got an evo3d and $300 I'll give you for it
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Does this seem like a simple mistake from when my phone was produced from the factory in China or Korea, where ever our phones where made. Or does it sound like an employee from T Mobile did, for whatever reason.
So I purchased my Note 2 from T Mobile last Friday. While loving the phone for the first couple days. I finnaly pulled my S pen out for the second or third time. And ever since I put it back inin, I noticed a simple tap on the back of phone. The S pen would just fall out. One time it even went in sideways, so turned 90 degrees then it should be. And had a tough time getting out.
When getting the box ready to exchange for new at T mobile. I looked at the s pen on the box, then looked at mine. And its not even the same S pen. I'm guessing the one I had was from the Note 1.
I just found this really odd. And there's no way mine got swapped with one from note 1, cause I don't even no anyone who owns the first note. Actually I've never even seen one. And no one I no has the note 2 either. And I haven't had anyway touch or hold my phone. Especially with all these posts of everyone cracking there screen lol.
So I don't no what to think about this. Just think its really weired. Has this happen to anyone else?
trevor7428 said:
Does this seem like a simple mistake from when my phone was produced from the factory in China or Korea, where ever our phones where made. Or does it sound like an employee from T Mobile did, for whatever reason.
So I purchased my Note 2 from T Mobile last Friday. While loving the phone for the first couple days. I finnaly pulled my S pen out for the second or third time. And ever since I put it back inin, I noticed a simple tap on the back of phone. The S pen would just fall out. One time it even went in sideways, so turned 90 degrees then it should be. And had a tough time getting out.
When getting the box ready to exchange for new at T mobile. I looked at the s pen on the box, then looked at mine. And its not even the same S pen. I'm guessing the one I had was from the Note 1.
I just found this really odd. And there's no way mine got swapped with one from note 1, cause I don't even no anyone who owns the first note. Actually I've never even seen one. And no one I no has the note 2 either. And I haven't had anyway touch or hold my phone. Especially with all these posts of everyone cracking there screen lol.
So I don't no what to think about this. Just think its really weired. Has this happen to anyone else?
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What possible reason could you think a tmobile employee or switched your spen....
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You probably have a defective s pen port or spen.
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The Note 1's S-pen is round. Unlike the N2's pen which has a 'flat' side to it.
Pics would help a lot here OP. Because right now you sound like a crazy person. Just take a pic of the pen. Upload to imgur or upload it on here.
This post title is what's fishy, misleading, and a hoax. Because I "no" you didn't wait days to treat your pen. Some post are so counter productive and add nothing to the forums. I mean really a bit 1 pen lol if any part of this is true. You inserted by force the s pen incorrectly and now you say depraved indifference
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bipoler said:
This post title is what's fishy, misleading, and a hoax. Because I "no" you didn't wait days to treat your pen. Some post are so counter productive and add nothing to the forums. I mean really a bit 1 pen lol if any part of this is true. You inserted by force the s pen incorrectly and now you say depraved indifference
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Actually I did wait days before using the s pen. I didn't buy the note for that. I bought it for the multi screen. Which is why I rooted day 1 and after playing with all the settings I got to the s pen last.
The only reason I new it was the wrong s pen. Is because the logo was on the side but on the box its not.
I already exchanged for a new one. But my new s pen can only be inserted one way. The other one could twist around while 3/4 in
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Because I "no" you didn't wait days...
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sorry, lol.
I didn't pull my spen out until the 4th day of owning the Note 2.
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Markor13 said:
I didn't pull my spen out until the 4th day of owning the Note 2.
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I pulled it out on the next day I believe... Almost 100% sure it wasn't the first day...
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Markor13 said:
I didn't pull my spen out until the 4th day of owning the Note 2.
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No, I was kidding.. I didn't get mine out for a couple of days as well.
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I took mine out the first day but havent used it all since...
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The only reason I new it was the wrong s pen. Is because the logo was on the side but on the box its not.
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Umm... like this? It's a note II S pen, without a doubt.
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Umm... like this? It's a note II S pen, without a doubt.
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that actualy reminds me of what it looked ed like my i dont think the end was as shiny as yours. or might seem that was cause of the picture, idk. also i remember the samsung logo was on the side of the s pen. cant tell if urs is too.
but did samsung make different models of the s pen for the note 2. cause the one i have now, doesnt look like urs from the pixture.
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This post title is what's fishy, misleading, and a hoax. Because I "no" you didn't wait days to treat your pen.
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I was trying so hard to let it go lol
Always pull your spen out early!
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that actualy reminds me of what it looked ed like my i dont think the end was as shiny as yours. or might seem that was cause of the picture, idk. also i remember the samsung logo was on the side of the s pen. cant tell if urs is too.
but did samsung make different models of the s pen for the note 2. cause the one i have now, doesnt look like urs from the pixture.
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I have no idea whether or not Samsung makes two different models of the s-pen. It seems unlikely that they would, given that the phone has only been out since the last of September/first of October. The only logical reason that I can think of for them to redesign something that they'd already gone to market with would be if there were something functionally wrong with the original device. Nowhere online do I see any indication that they've made such a change. I got my GN2 on October 29th, which would be several weeks before your stated purchase date (according to your initial post, you purchased yours on "last Friday" and that post is dated November 30, so that would put your purchase date on November 23), and my pen design matches those in all of the ads and all of the photos I've been able to locate online (for a few examples, look here). However, with that said, I suppose that it is possible that Samsung has redesigned the s-pen and is now including a different pen with their phones.
As an aside, you might want to begin proofreading your posts for spelling, punctuation, and grammatical errors before posting. Well written messages lend credence to your posts, whereas poorly written messages can call the veracity of your message into question.
Good luck with your new GN2 and s-pen. It's a great device and I'm enjoying mine more and more as time goes by and as I learn more about it. As a matter of fact, I ran across an article this morning that taught me even more about this great phone. It's a couple of months old, but there is still meat there for the taking. Here's the link if you're interested: 50 Samsung Galaxy Note 2 Tips and Tricks
Doubt they changed it. Got a replacement one yesterday and it had the same s pen.
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bFORTIFIED said:
Always pull your spen out early!
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LOL. I use the S Pullout method as well. Not as effective, but feels soo much better.
dmathis said:
I have no idea whether or not Samsung makes two different models of the s-pen. It seems unlikely that they would, given that the phone has only been out since the last of September/first of October. The only logical reason that I can think of for them to redesign something that they'd already gone to market with would be if there were something functionally wrong with the original device. Nowhere online do I see any indication that they've made such a change. I got my GN2 on October 29th, which would be several weeks before your stated purchase date (according to your initial post, you purchased yours on "last Friday" and that post is dated November 30, so that would put your purchase date on November 23), and my pen design matches those in all of the ads and all of the photos I've been able to locate online (for a few examples, look here). However, with that said, I suppose that it is possible that Samsung has redesigned the s-pen and is now including a different pen with their phones.
As an aside, you might want to begin proofreading your posts for spelling, punctuation, and grammatical errors before posting. Well written messages lend credence to your posts, whereas poorly written messages can call the veracity of your message into question.
Good luck with your new GN2 and s-pen. It's a great device and I'm enjoying mine more and more as time goes by and as I learn more about it. As a matter of fact, I ran across an article this morning that taught me even more about this great phone. It's a couple of months old, but there is still meat there for the taking. Here's the link if you're interested: 50 Samsung Galaxy Note 2 Tips and Tricks
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I never said they came out with a new s pen for note II. I just posted when I bought my note II, it came with the first notes s pen. Anyways I exchanged it awhile ago. All is fine now. My s pen fits perfectly in now. And for sure is not the same s pen then I had before.
But thanks for the link will check it out now
All - I searched and didn't find a thread like this. Happy to be redirected.
My wife have a pair of Samsung Galaxy S 4G that are starting to show their age a bit. Considering the HTC One as an upgrade.
This is one of the phones T-Mobile has listed when I filter by Android/4G/Wifi calling.
Curious if some of you can chime in with what you like and don't like about the phone.
Thanks much in advance!
I loved my Galaxy S 4G (aka Galaxy S1). If you like Touchwiz, then you'll like the S4. People say the HTC One is great for it's one-piece metal design, but I think that's a moot point if you're going to put a case on the phone. Plus metal exteriors scratch and dent easier than plastic. You can't swap batteries or use external microSD cards on the HTC One. The microSD isn't a big deal for me, but the phone's battery will start to degrade after 12-18 months. I also think the S4 has more support from the developer community and accessories manufacturers than the HTC One.
The one positive of the HTC is it will get 4.4 KitKat in 3 months, whereas the S4 probably won't see it until 2015 (LOL). I also like the HTC's front facing speakers.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/10/31/htc-one-android-kitkat/
The only thing I don't like about the S4 is the inability to take a screenshot through the phone itself. Other than that, I'd put my CM 10.2-powered S4 against a HTC One X any day of the week.
Oh, and the lack of a physical keyboard. Having been with Android since the days of the G1, that and the trackball/trackpad were the selling points of that old iPhone-killer.
blackknightavalon said:
The only thing I don't like about the S4 is the inability to take a screenshot through the phone itself. Other than that, I'd put my CM 10.2-powered S4 against a HTC One X any day of the week.
Oh, and the lack of a physical keyboard. Having been with Android since the days of the G1, that and the trackball/trackpad were the selling points of that old iPhone-killer.
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You can take a screenshot through the phone itself on the S4...
flying_pigs said:
You can take a screenshot through the phone itself on the S4...
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I get a black picture every time I try to do that.
blackknightavalon said:
I get a black picture every time I try to do that.
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Using a custom rom?
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Using a custom rom?
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According to the first post of mine you quoted, yes.
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According to the first post of mine you quoted, yes.
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Then you have set up something wrong. That's a standard CM feature for all versions on all phones.
The only thing I don't like about this phone is the weak vibration. That's the only real drawback to it.
Skipjacks said:
Then you have set up something wrong. That's a standard CM feature for all versions on all phones.
The only thing I don't like about this phone is the weak vibration. That's the only real drawback to it.
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Okay, I got it working. I was trying it through a screenshot app, but the native CM screenshot works. Thanks.
I'm torn on the button placements.
The power button
On one hand it's easier to press with the button on the side and not on the top (coming from an LG g2x) but it's too easy to press when i'm gripping the phone or adjusting the volume
Home button.
Still getting used to the non touch home button, I find myself touching it more than pressing it. also with my gloves on i find myself touching the bottom of the screen when i push the button.
But still vs the HTC one (which is a great phone) i still prefer the s4, mainly due to the removable battery and SD card slot. I also found the htc one got a little hotter in my hand then the S4 but i'm pretty sure thats up for lots of debate. The only upside of the HTC is the speakers
Thanks for the replies! Didn't realize the HTC One didn't have a replacable battery!
Hey guys. I know there are a lot of threads about this when 10.1 2014 came out.
Old threads seem to be abandoned though.
Is there any fix now to the offset between the tip of the spen and the point on the screen?
I am still on 4.3 so I also wanna know from those who upgraded already to KK if this is fixed.
Thanks guys!
Broken with Kitty Kat. Fixing requires root.
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BclingergFJ said:
Broken with Kitty Kat. Fixing requires root.
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What fix is this? My tablet and phones are always rooted and on custom roms but I haven't seen any fix from my search.
Please post link. Would really appreciate it.
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on the galaxy note 8, civato had to fix it in the kernel as there wasn't any other way (that anyone knew) to fix it. some programs had built in calibrations, but other than those you were SOL with the offset.
Lecture Notes fixes the problem, the other applications I use do not. This feature is totally unacceptable for a "stable" release.
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jinda628 said:
Hey guys. I know there are a lot of threads about this when 10.1 2014 came out.
Old threads seem to be abandoned though.
Is there any fix now to the offset between the tip of the spen and the point on the screen?
I am still on 4.3 so I also wanna know from those who upgraded already to KK if this is fixed.
Thanks guys!
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There is no offset unless you did something to create it, just reverse what you did. My stock device is perfect...
jonling said:
There is no offset unless you did something to create it, just reverse what you did. My stock device is perfect...
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You must be lucky but there is an offset from the first time I got the tablet about 6 mos ago. It's a known issue when the tablet first came out.
It's not that bad for writing just a bit annoying when you are drawing something.
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I've never had an offset problem on 4.3 or 4.4 using multiple different S Pens. But I only use the pen in Samsung and their sponsored (Adobe, Autodesk, Polaris, and Hancom) apps. I take that back, I use the pen as a mouse pointer sometimes in Jump RDP and it's fine. If people are having issues with Samsung's apps it might be the pen itself. I got one wet once and it developed a nasty offset. If the problem is in random third party apps it's most likely the developers fault. Samsung publishes an S Pen SDK but that doesn't mean third parties are using it.
i have zero offset in SNote and Sketchbook using the included SPen (and original nib), running stock KK 4.4, not rooted.
I've never had a problem with my November 2014-purchased model using Autodesk Sketchbook or other apps. I've used a few S-pens and a Watcom Feel Samsung Note model. There is offset during hoover with that, but not once I touch the screen. Perhaps I'm lucky.
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I've never had an offset problem on 4.3 or 4.4...
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AM Radio said:
i have zero offset in SNote and Sketchbook using the included SPen (and original nib), running stock KK 4.4, not rooted.
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Note10.1Dude said:
I've never had a problem with my November 2014-purchased model using Autodesk Sketchbook or other apps. I've used a few S-pens and a Watcom Feel Samsung Note model. There is offset during hoover with that, but not once I touch the screen. Perhaps I'm lucky.
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I actually looked at it closer and seems like the offset was reduced on the current ROM I'm using. I remember to have like 2mm offset to the top when I was on stock and some other ROMs I tried.
I also have no offset on my Note 3 and the tablet's Spen works perfectly on the phone without an offset but then the phone's Spen also has offset when used on the tablet.
Its a lot less now, maybe 1mm to the top. I'm just trying to ignore the point when drawing or writing and just concentrate on the nib to screen contact. I just hope there's a way to disable showing the point on the screen.
I know this is an old thread, but there are always new owners to an old device like me. I recently bought a Note 8.0, SGH-I467 (AT&T) off eBay because some note taking review, even though published in 2017, still ranks this 2013 device highly for note taking. Being a 4-year-old device also makes it quite affordable. The 8" form factor is light in your hand and together with a WACOM style stylus, S Pen, is perfect for taking notes except for this 1/16" (2mm) offset to the right. I assume the review was written by someone who has 4.1.2 on his device, which doesn't have this problem.
Anyway if you are unlucky like me with SGH-I467 (AT&T, LOCKED bootloader), *NOT* SGH-I467M (Canadian version, bootloader UNLOCKED), and your tablet came with 4.3 or higher, you are stuck with this problem. You cannot download a custom kernel that fixes this problem. Nor can you downgrade back to 4.1.2.
If you are on 4.2.2, you can still downgrade back to 4.1.2.
I spent countless hours researching for a fix. Some lucky souls have solved it by drawing to the corners of the display in S Note. The theory here is it actuates Note 8.0's automated calibration. It doesn't work for me. Others have tried to toggle the left or right hand dominant setting with success. Unfortunately, such option is not available on my device.
The Reset S Pen app on the Play Store doesn't work either because it is a kernel problem, not a configuration file.
I even popped the cover of the button on the S Pen to adjust the potentiometer, but I still couldn't observe noticeable differences.
The problem with an offset to the right is the ink will be under the S Pen when you draw if you are right handed. It's no big deal when you are writing, but intolerable if you are drawing.
This morning I figure out a workaround I can live with as a right-handed person and would like to share.
Turn your tablet upside down with auto rotate enabled. Your app of course will turn right side up again, but the offset is now to the left instead!
If you are right handed, this makes a big difference because you can now see it. Instead of looking at the nib when you start drawing, focus on the cursor instead when the nib gets close to the display. Now you know when to drop down your S Pen and from where the drawing would start. The cursor would disappear after S Pen makes contact, but at this point you don't need the cursor anyway because you would be following the ink!
If you are left handed, you don't need to turn the device upside down since you can already see the offset. Just re-train yourself to follow the cursor and ink instead of the nib.
Hope this helps!