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Hi all,
I am currently using an Xperia X10, with unlocked bootloader and a custom rom. Does almost everything i need from a phone, but it can always be faster and better right
Today i stumbled upon a nice offer with an Xperia Arc S. I can also choose a samsung galaxy s plus..
So i have a few questions for you guys:
Do you recommend the arc s? I really like SE for it's build quality and excellent camera. So the samsung is out i think . PLus the Arc S having Android 4.0.
Is the Arc S nicely build?
Battery life? (xperia x10 has 1500mah, but with custom rom it gets trough the day with ease)
I will almost certainly do the same with it as i did with my x10 : rooting the phone and tweak it. So is the arc S an easy phone to edit and root? Are there some nice ICS roms for it? (of course there are )
How about performance? i know it is not the best phone on the market, you could even call it an "older" model. Adreno 205 is a good GPU isn't it?
And is the camera really as good as Sony claims it is? Yeah i am not comparing it to my dslr (SonyD) Alpha A500), but can you make some nice pictures with it.
Or should i just pay a bit more and go for Xperia S
I have been using my x10 for 2 years now, don't know if i will do the same with the arc S. But the offer is so good that i could even sell the phone and still don't pay more than with my current Sim-Only.
I hope i get some answers from you guys. Information from users is much more valuable than everything i read on the net. Reviews are generally pretty positive.
Greets, and thanks in advance
I would go for the Xperia S personally, the arc is great but the lack of RAM and memory make it often frustrating to use. Multitasking is a pain because you'll find that you leave an app, come back to it and it will have closed most annoying on the browser. Also once you install a decent amount of apps on it you do start to notice it lag.
It is a great phone, as long as you're a light user. Going back to my arc from my Xperia S you do notice this more. That said it is a good update from the X10 which is very sluggish with 2.3, but if you want something much better and more future proof I would recommend at least a phone with 1GB RAM and a dualcore processor.
I don't have an arc s, I have an arc. I previously used an x10 though and the arc is worlds better (even with similar specs). The rom community for the arc is also very active so you'll likely find exactly what you need for your usage.
That said, adsada is right; if you can swing it I would get a newer xperia phone, but if the deal on the arc s really is a good one I can't see any reason not to grab it. Just expect to use your phone like a phone, not a computer
if u buy arc s you are going 10 months behind with u see the config..but the looks are still futuristic..one of the best looking phone. but only drawback is its RAM..if u want your phone to survive jelly beans load and want to stick to it atleast for 1-1.5 years then i think your btr go for xperia s..
i have 3 smartphones..i see my defy as a rough & tough man..i see my SGS2 as a big corporate man with suit blazers..but when i see my arc s i see her as a sexy victoria secret model ..
BTW this is general section...Questions should go into Q & A section..
The build quality is good.
The battery life...hmmmmm.. I am still waiting for the phone that last more than 1 day in heavy use. Still, with the right ROM and settings, it lasts about 10h (and by heavy duty I mean HEAVY DUTY, used at least 6h out of 10 - music, internet (data), gaming, etc)
Camera is good. I had nothing to complain about.
The RAM and internal memory is indeed a drawback. Still, some workarounds can be found with the right ROM and app configurations.
If you want it mainly for the design.. go for it, it is great!
If you are more interested in force than in beauty... go for Xperia S.
Thanks for the answers.
Yeah the offer is pretty nice, but i think i will wait a bit and buy something a bit more high performance.
Looks of the Art S are the best though, i really think there isn't a better looking phone on the market right now.
Lack of Ram is something the X10 has too. Really irritating sometimes, but after some modding you can run it pretty fast.
But i really like to tweak things, and i like technically advanced stuff. So it is probably better to buy something different.
Don't know if i stay with sony though.. Samsung galaxy S2 is getting a lot cheaper fast here. So that probably is a lot value for many. I hate touchwich, so that one will be modded for sure
i have an Arc S, to be honest i prefer the Galaxy. Arc S is good but when it comes to updates i think ICS will be the last update this phone will ever taste (porting will help but some stuff might not work)
maybe newer ver of android requires a bigger memory (RAM) ICS is kinda slow on this phone but Modding helps speed it up.
im an arc user also..
work in a mobile section been exploring all high end phones
just my own opinion and what ive experience
sony - camera / visual(your screen) / audio
those criteria sony will have great advantage towards other brands
but speed xperia s dual core old architecture cpu,
s4 dual core phones will swallow it alive
im planning also to change my phone maybe other brand
i used my arc for almost a year now and the ram just cant handle it
got an Samsung Galaxy S2 and an Sony Arc S. have to say, the RAM on the Arc is really a problem, but the camera is way better than on the Samsung :-D
currently I´m trying AOKP on my Arc S, just to see if it handles the RAM really better than Stock
so for you: get a device with more RAM and nice optics ;-) but you probably won´t be disappointed with the Arc S.
... If you want a upgrade from x10 go for sony S http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_s-4369.php, it is a bit expensive now, but if you wait a little it will be a good upgrade.
I love my defy, especially now with jelly bean CM10.
However acro s has just been released and it looks to offer the toughness of defy with a high end phone and camera.
Do you think it's with spending the money on or should I hold onto my defy for another year??
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Silverdace said:
I love my defy, especially now with jelly bean CM10.
However acro s has just been released and it looks to offer the toughness of defy with a high end phone and camera.
Do you think it's with spending the money on or should I hold onto my defy for another year??
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get the Xperia Acro S if :
1> the entirety of the design greatly appeals to you (it did on me)
2> you find the built - water-resistant and shock resistant - has some good use according to your lifestyle
3> the price range is acceptable
4>you're a big fan of Xperia (a "stick to it no matter what" kind of fan)
5>OS development and modding is not that important
but, consider looking somewhere else if :
1>OS upgrade, flashing, openness and OS development is important to you(you're better off getting Samsung or HTC)
2>you value the online community support structure (you're better off getting Samsung or HTC)
3>you want those OS development delivered on a timely manner (you're better off getting Samsung or HTC) either official or the XDA way.
there you go, i hope these somehow help you make the right choice.
Thanks for the good advice.
For me there is a conflict. I need water resistance for use outdoors but have also enjoyed the roms, mods and tweaking. The defy was the best of both worlds. I don't think it's stayed on the same rom for more than a few weeks!. I've had it for almost two years now.
I don't know why Motorola haven't bought out a defy 2. Bigger screen, better camera etc. instead there's defy +, defy mini, defy XT, all of which are pretty much the same and not worth upgrading from defy.
I'm contemplating buying a galaxy nexus as an indoor phone and keeping my defy as my outdoor media and GPS. However the acro s looked like it would let me have just the one phone.
I'll wait I think for a month or so until there's good reviews of acro s out. Acro s is priced just above galaxy s3 here in new Zealand but only just released so will prob drop in price quick.
Apologies for long post.
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Do you know what carrier it will be for? I live in America and i can only get Tmobile phones. I need a tough phone like the defy, everyday, but i want something more powerful like the acro s. The only other phone thats powerful from tmobile here is the galaxy s3 which my girlfriend has but she has to charge it 3 times a day and i think i would break it in a month on accident. Thanks.
tommyrumbler said:
get the Xperia Acro S if :
1> the entirety of the design greatly appeals to you (it did on me)
2> you find the built - water-resistant and shock resistant - has some good use according to your lifestyle
3> the price range is acceptable
4>you're a big fan of Xperia (a "stick to it no matter what" kind of fan)
5>OS development and modding is not that important
but, consider looking somewhere else if :
1>OS upgrade, flashing, openness and OS development is important to you(you're better off getting Samsung or HTC)
2>you value the online community support structure (you're better off getting Samsung or HTC)
3>you want those OS development delivered on a timely manner (you're better off getting Samsung or HTC) either official or the XDA way.
there you go, i hope these somehow help you make the right choice.
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i think devs on XPERIA device is not bad..
FXP team did a good job, and ORGANIZED, yes organized to did their job.
they port CM to all 2011 Xperia device (yes, CM10 included).
my friend using Xperia Live and Xperia Neo, got a nice real smoooooth CM.
and developing atmoshpere there on both device is hot, not dead..
as long as kernel is unlocked, there's always a possibilities for devs to develop it.
and xperia has many devs too.
and did you know, SONY is a nice vendor for the devs.
SONY put a official page on their website, a nice how to step-by-step UNLOCK BOOTLOADER OFFICIALY..
i kept my eye on xperia acro s for two months now, and my next phone will definitely be this one. and i think the development of xperia devices is not bad, especially when they get cyanogenmod. and im quite sure this device will be officially supported by the cm team.
and i agree with marhensa, if the bootloader is unlocked, development is much easier, and sony makes their bootloaders unlockable.
And about official updates, Sony comes right next to nexus phones in official updates .. they updated almost all of the 2011 Xperia lineup to ics . Better late then never
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I would buy it but sony only release the xperia go in germany, but thats holy crab, nothing better then my defy.
So i keep my defy ad buy him in autumn a big brother, the nexus seven. So outdoor smartphone and daily using nexus 7
I'm waiting for this piece of hardware as well. Its for the exact reasons I bought my defy for and why I will hopefully never have to but a non ip67 phone again.
Sean
lets not forget that:
- the defy is not ip67 officially
- the acro s is ip57, not ip67
sent from my jellybean defy...
marhensa said:
i think devs on XPERIA device is not bad..
FXP team did a good job, and ORGANIZED, yes organized to did their job.
they port CM to all 2011 Xperia device (yes, CM10 included).
my friend using Xperia Live and Xperia Neo, got a nice real smoooooth CM.
and developing atmoshpere there on both device is hot, not dead..
as long as kernel is unlocked, there's always a possibilities for devs to develop it.
and xperia has many devs too.
and did you know, SONY is a nice vendor for the devs.
SONY put a official page on their website, a nice how to step-by-step UNLOCK BOOTLOADER OFFICIALY..
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oh don't get me wrong there, bud. nothing about devs in general and here at XDA in particular.
my point being was - Sony's tough stance on keeping their phones superlocked - with bootloaders locked(and encrypted) in a way that makes it difficult for devs high and low to come up with diverse ROMs and mods, keeps the flashaholic community to a minimum level.
and yeah CM did very excellent (sorry for the double supras) job of porting ICS and even JB(in the works to most 2011 line). unlimited props to the team. and that was CM - not SE.compare it to both Samsung and HTC communities where in just a matter of weeks they'd have the ports ready and working, it took about what, a year for SE to brush in to the ICS bandwagon?..
also, look at the price range for an SE dual core device, almost up there with the far-quads.
talk about design, props to SE - i mean they make the loveliest phones out there. (exactly why i bought my ACRO HD).
i'm no big fan of SE - or any OEM for that matter - what matters to me is the experience i get out of a phone - or a device - or a product. And this is where SE loses big time to most big players year after year.
if my Acro HD has got better innard - like a quad maybe, this is going to be my phone for the next two years or so. no i'm highly tempted to get an S3.
again, please..don't tramp me just yet...i'm no hater.
and thanks for the reply. i appreciate being corrected constructively.
tommyrumbler said:
oh don't get me wrong there, bud. nothing about devs in general and here at XDA in particular.
my point being was - Sony's tough stance on keeping their phones superlocked - with bootloaders locked(and encrypted) in a way that makes it difficult for devs high and low to come up with diverse ROMs and mods, keeps the flashaholic community to a minimum level.
and yeah CM did very excellent (sorry for the double supras) job of porting ICS and even JB(in the works to most 2011 line). unlimited props to the team. and that was CM - not SE.compare it to both Samsung and HTC communities where in just a matter of weeks they'd have the ports ready and working, it took about what, a year for SE to brush in to the ICS bandwagon?..
also, look at the price range for an SE dual core device, almost up there with the far-quads.
talk about design, props to SE - i mean they make the loveliest phones out there. (exactly why i bought my ACRO HD).
i'm no big fan of SE - or any OEM for that matter - what matters to me is the experience i get out of a phone - or a device - or a product. And this is where SE loses big time to most big players year after year.
if my Acro HD has got better innard - like a quad maybe, this is going to be my phone for the next two years or so. no i'm highly tempted to get an S3.
again, please..don't tramp me just yet...i'm no hater.
and thanks for the reply. i appreciate being corrected constructively.
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umm, i never had an android powered sony, but ive tried many, and from my experience, their software is greatly optimised, their single core devices are almost as smooth as a dual core device. thats why i think its worth buying a dual core sony instead of any quad core for the same price. and the sony stock software is very good, good features, quick, smooth. and they unlock most of their devices afaik. so my next phone will definitely be a sony. i dont like samsung, not just the software, the hardware either. htc is too pricy, especially that i dont wanna use sense ui, and thats extra money. i will never again buy a motorola for what they did to us defy users, and lg i simply dont trust. that leaves sony, which i always liked.
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umm, i never had an android powered sony, but ive tried many, and from my experience, their software is greatly optimised, their single core devices are almost as smooth as a dual core device. thats why i think its worth buying a dual core sony instead of any quad core for the same price. and the sony stock software is very good, good features, quick, smooth. and they unlock most of their devices afaik. so my next phone will definitely be a sony. i dont like samsung, not just the software, the hardware either. htc is too pricy, especially that i dont wanna use sense ui, and thats extra money. i will never again buy a motorola for what they did to us defy users, and lg i simply dont trust. that leaves sony, which i always liked.
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my little brother has got a defy too.. he loved it to the point of learning android programming so he could max his device the way he want's it. i've had 6 other phones while he held on to it. and i know first hand how moto left everyone in the dark with their i-dont-care attitude.
if you're saying though that SE makes very good OS/software for their phones, then i'm not really sure why we're here on XDA.
back to SE - goodluck with your next device. i hope they make better phones in their next release.
i'm about to sell my AcroHD and get me one of those jelly-able device.
tommyrumbler said:
my little brother has got a defy too.. he loved it to the point of learning android programming so he could max his device the way he want's it. i've had 6 other phones while he held on to it. and i know first hand how moto left everyone in the dark with their i-dont-care attitude.
if you're saying though that SE makes very good OS/software for their phones, then i'm not really sure why we're here on XDA.
back to SE - goodluck with your next device. i hope they make better phones in their next release.
i'm about to sell my AcroHD and get me one of those jelly-able device.
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you misunderstood me, im not saying i want to stick to the stock sony sw, i just said that if i had to choose id choose sonys, but of course if theres a possibility to change to cm, i will be the first to go. and the acro s has nfc, hdmi, good hw, hd 4.3" display (anything above 4.3" is too big for me), and comes with ics, so it will definitely be updated to jb. so this is the perfect phone for me. the s3 with its 4.7" is waaay to big, and i dont like the look of it.
but guys..
sony is kindly gave OFFICIAL step bu step to unlock bootloader.
and after that, you know what..
the 2011 devices line up got CM by FXP..
it took so long to get CM is because bootloader isn't unlock at that time.
but after that, sony gives a new policy which is so good for any devs.
the warranty will get void of course, but that's a win win solution for devs + it's follower and company (sony)..
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I'm sure that Acro S is the best replacement for all Defy Owners , I think Quad-Core phones will eat up batteries.
For Samsung : I don't like their Plasticy devices that feels like a toy and Cheap construction and very easy to break ,but they have a big Dev community
For HTC and SONY they have a great build quality and nice dev followers but its a little bit over-priced
Acro S is the Up-coming phone unless HTC has released any IP57 or IP67 certified phones and i think all phones in the world should be IP57 cert
zakoo2 said:
lets not forget that:
- the defy is not ip67 officially
- the acro s is ip57, not ip67
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That one also baffles me ... What could possibly be the cause of the dust ingression protection level to decrease for acro S ...
Sony manages to maintain IP67 for Go ...
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AlexGraves said:
That one also baffles me ... What could possibly be the cause of the dust ingression protection level to decrease for acro S ...
Sony manages to maintain IP67 for Go ...
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the acro s is bigger, and just how it is with the defy, the acro s plugs are protected by tiny plastic doors. although i dont relly get how its protected from water and not from dust
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the acro s is bigger, and just how it is with the defy, the acro s plugs are protected by tiny plastic doors. although i dont relly get how its protected from water and not from dust
sent from my jellybean defy...
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Just wanted to point out that DEFY+ is IP67 certified. So, yeah, the DEFY maybe doesn't have the official badge, but it was just another marketing trick to make people believe they actually improved the phone in multiple ways (CPU, chipset, graphics, IP67 certificate...things are different on DEFY and DEFY+ according to Motorola), while they are actually the same.
To make sure I was on topic - I find the Xperia line-up very ugly. If a real DEFY 2 doesn't show, my next phone will be an ATRIX 2
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Just wanted to point out that DEFY+ is IP67 certified. So, yeah, the DEFY maybe doesn't have the official badge, but it was just another marketing trick to make people believe they actually improved the phone in multiple ways (CPU, chipset, graphics, IP67 certificate...things are different on DEFY and DEFY+ according to Motorola), while they are actually the same.
To make sure I was on topic - I find the Xperia line-up very ugly. If a real DEFY 2 doesn't show, my next phone will be an ATRIX 2
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i actually find the xperia line-up nice and elegant, and i swore never to buy motorola again...
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So, i'm usin Samsung Nexus S at the moment, but i'm thinking to swap it for Arc S, Anyone can tellme is it a good desicion? Is Arc S good phone?
Thanks
wuggy said:
So, i'm usin Samsung Nexus S at the moment, but i'm thinking to swap it for Arc S, Anyone can tellme is it a good desicion? Is Arc S good phone?
Thanks
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either go for xperia go or xperia arco s (which is upgraded model of arc s) or xperia p
xperia arc s is not outdated
vipul955 said:
either go for xperia go or xperia arco s (which is upgraded model of arc s) or xperia p
xperia arc s is not outdated
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what do you mean by xperia arc s is not outdated? I mean, is it a good phone?
Go for it...
Well, since you are posting in Xperia Arc/S subforum, I don't know how much "objective" answers you can get, but nevermind, here is my answer.
I bought my Arc S about month and 1/2 ago, and I'm ultra satisfied with this phone, design-wise and function-wise...
I was in love with this phone since it was announced, and now when I own one, I'm in love even more.
What you will get, is one of the most beautifully and originally designed phone on market, if not the most beautiful and original. I'm afraid that this is the last brave and risk-taking design in smartphone market, but only time will tell.
Hardware-wise, you will get a little bit outdated hardware (heh, who could imagine year ago that we will speak about 1.4GHz mobile processors as "outdated"), but capable enough to run Gingerbread ultra smoothly, and to run recent ICS updates tolerably fast. After all, you will have phone with official SONY branded ICS, and it will not feel outdated at all. I don't know how big your budget is, but my vote goes for Arc S, as it is killer design-wise, and to me it looks much better than new NXT Xperia 2012 line.
Its a nice phone :thumbup:
At the same price you can find a galaxy s 2...choose that, there is a really more active ROM development support...
Then I own an arc s...and for gaming is ****. The same games work flawlessly on the galaxy s 2...
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wuggy said:
So, i'm usin Samsung Nexus S at the moment, but i'm thinking to swap it for Arc S, Anyone can tellme is it a good desicion? Is Arc S good phone?
Thanks
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Hey.. I also switched to SE from Nexus S.. And I can tell you, you wont be happy with Xperia 2011 family.. Its got the same hardware as Nexus S and is a bit outdated. Also the development is far less in these devices than we find in the Nexus Forum.. You'll better chose Galaxy Nexus which comes with the same price tag as the Arc/S..
Sent from the Underdog..
Pros: The best designed phone out there. No manufacturer (not even Sony) can come up with such a beauty ever again.
Music is great, Sound output is terrific and in-call sound is audible even in noisy environments.
OS look and feel is terrific and it offers plenty of features (DLNA, HDMI, built in panaroma) that many phones lack.
Cons: Hardware. The OS is painfully slow. Even gingerbread is not upto the mark. many on this forum have completely forgotten that the contact/messaging hangups occured in 2.3 as well. After ICS update, the phone became terribly laggy that we started believing that GB worked well. Trust me, once you fill up your phone memory with apps, the phone will die from inside! Ever wonder why people run after custom ROMS even though Sony's official UI offers more features?
Camera: Still camera is decent but the phone is just not made to shoot HD videos. Give it a pass. With ICS update, camera performance has degraded.
Final words. Go get yourself a phone with latest hardware. Sony Xperia S/P may not look as pretty from outside but they do exceptionally well from inside. The UI is new and phone supports many other features (All 3.5mm headphones are supported/NFC etc etc).
If your budget allows, try HTC One X, Galaxy Nexus or Galaxy S3.
Or wait for the 2012-13 series of Xperia phones with S4 processor.
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Pros: The best designed phone out there. No manufacturer (not even Sony) can come up with such a beauty ever again.
Music is great, Sound output is terrific and in-call sound is audible even in noisy environments.
OS look and feel is terrific and it offers plenty of features (DLNA, HDMI, built in panaroma) that many phones lack.
Cons: Hardware. The OS is painfully slow. Even gingerbread is not upto the mark. many on this forum have completely forgotten that the contact/messaging hangups occured in 2.3 as well. After ICS update, the phone became terribly laggy that we started believing that GB worked well. Trust me, once you fill up your phone memory with apps, the phone will die from inside! Ever wonder why people run after custom ROMS even though Sony's official UI offers more features?
Camera: Still camera is decent but the phone is just not made to shoot HD videos. Give it a pass. With ICS update, camera performance has degraded.
Final words. Go get yourself a phone with latest hardware. Sony Xperia S/P may not look as pretty from outside but they do exceptionally well from inside. The UI is new and phone supports many other features (All 3.5mm headphones are supported/NFC etc etc).
If your budget allows, try HTC One X, Galaxy Nexus or Galaxy S3.
Or wait for the 2012-13 series of Xperia phones with S4 processor.
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Any Idea will there be 2012-13 Arc S? Cuz i really love the design Really hope
Keep the nexus
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wuggy said:
Any Idea will there be 2012-13 Arc S? Cuz i really love the design Really hope
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Looks like Sony have answered your/our prayers! the new Xperia line has arc design and better build quality and the benchmarks are now showing them as better performers than most flagships out there. The Dual Core S4 has an upper hand over Quad Cores. Go get yourself an Xperia T/TX. Xperia V is overpriced.
No one can beat Sony in design!
+1 , Xperia TX has the same design as Arc S (well at least it is curved as the Arc S) and its processor looks to be promising !!
Will be my next phone by the way, just waiting for it to reach the market ^^
I agree totally with everything you said,it might not be the newest phone but it's so customizable!!, keeping it up to date.
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do you usually play high requirement game such as blood&glory?
if so, arc s does not suit you
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do you usually play high requirement game such as blood&glory?
if so, arc s does not suit you
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i don't really play much
Then go for Arc S. Problem solved...
You won't find prettier phone.
I have a newest Ics update and i's not slow or laggy. Camera quality compared to gb is better ( sony resolved over compression problem ), video is the same, only audio is worse cause mono but i's not a big difference. I'm not a game player so for me it's a decent upgrade after htc desire...
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I want to buy an Arc S very soon and i want to know if it is worth buying it now ? my budget is low because i sell my 5 month old atrix 4G + salary of 3 days working xD
The big question is if there are any bugs or consistant lags which i need to know about ?
Buy an Arc S, load it with FXP kernel and CM9, and you got a phone which can compete with the most expensive Android phones on the market.
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Buy an Arc S, load it with FXP kernel and CM9, and you got a phone which can compete with the most expensive Android phones on the market.
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And if i don't want a costume rom ? at least until the warranty is over...
Is it good ? does it have any bugs or lag ?
I think you should get together a little more and buy a xperia s, s I think the arc is becoming obsolete, but with the roms there until today, you'll get more out ... as I, ;p
Depends on what you want from a phone. If you're not very heavy on apps, want a nice looking phone (with cheap housing) and have a low budget - yeah, go ahead. You could give Neo (especially if you want a front facing camera) or Ray a shot, though.
Sent from my cracksperia Arc
Is it possible to Re-lock the BL ?
And the neo and ray have small screens compared to the Arc S and neo is too thick
I'll go for the Arc S Is is fast and slick with everything ? i mean dialer, sms, contacts, calendar, settings & menus, apps like whatsapp and facebook ?
How is multitasking for a single core ? good ?
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Yes, it's possible to relock the bootloader. Neo is thicker, yes, though housing is better. But I suggest you buy a protective case for Arc, because the housing is crap and if you accidentally drop the phone, you'll definitely damage the housing. And there's that tiny crack that'll develop above and below the proximity sensor regardless of how you treat your phone.
The multitasking. Well, hm. I suggest you stay on Gingerbread for that. It's a lot better than ICS on Arc. I can't really say much more as I'll be upgrading to Xperia T/TX soon for a bit more power. But overall, it's an okay phone if you don't mind crappy housing quality.
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I suggest you to at least buy Xperia U... It's cheaper than Arc S (at least here in Serbia), and it has a dual-core processor, so it's better for multitasking. If 8GB of storage is enough for you and you don't need good camera, than go for it. If you don't, than buy Xperia Arc S if you can't buy Xperia P.
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I suggest you to at least buy Xperia U... It's cheaper than Arc S (at least here in Serbia), and it has a dual-core processor, so it's better for multitasking. If 8GB of storage is enough for you and you don't need good camera, than go for it. If you don't, than buy Xperia Arc S if you can't buy Xperia P.
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I'm about to buy the xperia Sola
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nathan96 said:
I want to buy an Arc S very soon and i want to know if it is worth buying it now ? my budget is low because i sell my 5 month old atrix 4G + salary of 3 days working xD
The big question is if there are any bugs or consistant lags which i need to know about ?
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Hey im using arc s from past 4 months and its just AMAZING....
The only one demerit is it lacks in front camera...apart from that everythings fine...it gives a good batery bakup..ram management is good...the screen size and resolution is apt and moreover the design of the phone gives the killer look to it...it is powered with scorpion snapdragon single core processor which i feel is good moreover the novathor duel core which is equiped by the new sony xperia nxt series..
I suggest you to buy it and install cynogen mod rom in it for best use !!!
Hope this helps u !!
Your choice
IF I SUGGEST YOU THENNN(KEEPING AN ANDROID PHONE IN MIND)
1. ARC S HAS 1.4GHZ SINGLE PROCESSOR
>>>IT'S A VERY GOOD PROCESSOR AND TILL DATE IT CAN RUN EVERY ROM MADE FOR IT
<<<SUGGEST YOU TO BUY A DUAL CORE PROCESSOR ALTHOUGH QUAD CORE PROCESSORS ARE LATEST BUT DUAL CORE PROCESSOR CAN DO THE WORKS SMOOTHER THAN SINGLE CORE.
2. ARC S HAS ONLY 512MB RAM
>>>FOR RUNNING OLDER ANDROID ROM (Eg.GINGERBREAD) IT'S BEST..BUT IN LATEST RELEASE OF NEW ROMS (Eg. ICE CREAM SANDWICH OR JELLY BEAN) MORE AMOUNT OF RAM IS GOOD AS IT WOULD CAUSE LAG(DOESN'T COME UP INITIALLY BUT LATER IT'S A LAG LIKE HELLL AS YOU START DOWNLOADING MORE APPS)
<<<SUGGEST YOU TO BUY A PHONE HAVING AT LEAST 1GB OF RAM FOR A COMPLETE LAG FREE PERFORMANCE
3. ARC S HAS A BEAUTIFUL DESIGN, CAMERA AND OTHER FEATURES EXCEPT FRONT CAMERA.
>>>NO COMMENTS
IMPORTANT:-
THE BEST EXPERIENCE ON A PHONE CAN BE ACHIEVED BY A VERY GOOD ROM OPTIMIZED FOR IT. IN RECENT WITH LATEST ROMS REQUIRING HIGH END SPECS TO RUN SMOOTHLY ON ANDROID DEVICE..
AT LAST:-
PERFORMANCE IS DIRECTLY PROPORTIONAL TO $$$$$.
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Hello,
I'm considering a new phone and have been looking at the Xperia S/SL. I like the feel of the devices and the design. I think having a physical camera button is great! If you have an S/SL, what do you like most about it? What do you like the least? Seems other than 2 additional colors and a bump in CPU speed, the SL is the same as the S. Is that so? Most everything I've seen in terms of customization (new ROMs, etc) talk about the S and not the SL. Can I safely assume that the S and SL are synonymous with regards to rooting, ROMs, etc.?
Thanks,
cesman
Well I must say the XS is awesome, i mena the camera is great (except some autofocus issues, however you can get another app for that) the screen is gorgeous, flaws ... must I say non removeable battery, lacking micro sd port (however 32 gb I think It's fair enough)
I should go for the S if you want to unlock your bootloader
You can flash a custom kernel to have 1.7GHz like SL, no other main difference between S and SL.
The camera is good, and the device runs smooth with some tweaks for custom looks it's the same as other devices, you can always customize Android
Non removable battery and no micro-sd slot doesn't bother me, there is a key reset combo and I don't need more then 32GB
Battery life isn't superb, but also not really bad, you can easily get one day or more. Unless you are a very heavy user or have a lot of apps that sync data
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just like my phone have lots of apps that need sync , and thats why i bought smartphone , so it can sync automatically and not to do it manually.
For the price you really can't go wrong, you get a stunning 300+ PPI 720p HD screen, a 12mp Camera and a decent dual core.
It's got a gorgeous UI but since it's an android you're probably going to be skinning it anyways. It feels weighty and it's sturdy, it doesn't feel cheap at all and you feel like you're holding a sturdy phone. Build quality is good, I've dropped it countless times and it's still yet to break for me.
You can unlock the bootloader officially which is good and it really isn't all that hard to root the device and install roms on it.
The downsides I'd say is the non-removable battery which for is a concern and a problem considering the battery isn't all the impressive, It lasts me from 8am in the morning to about 3-4am with low/moderate usage.
32gb for most people should be more than enough.
Again, for the price it's an amazing phone; it ain't the best phone though obviously but if you wanted a good phone you'd be looking at your Galaxy S3s or waiting for the Xperia Z
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Again, for the price it's an amazing phone; it ain't the best phone though obviously but if you wanted a good phone you'd be looking at your Galaxy S3s or waiting for the Xperia Z
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Interesting choice of adjectives as some would consider "amazing" better than "good". I held the Z in my hand at CES and didn't care for the feel. The ZL has a much better hand feel. If anything, that is the phone I'd wait for... As long as I can get it unlocked. I'm more attached to the Xperia line than the Galaxy... Although it is nice that Galaxy has official CM releases up to the current M1.
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I should go for the S if you want to unlock your bootloader
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Does this mean that the SL's bootloader can't be unlocked?
I'm planning to buy a XS/XSL too, and i can get the SL for a lower price
javitogomezzzz said:
Does this mean that the SL's bootloader can't be unlocked?
I'm planning to buy a XS/XSL too, and i can get the SL for a lower price
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I've search on here and no one has come right out and said they have unlocked the XSL's bootloader. Sony's own site doesn't show it as a supported model. Where can you get it for less?!
cesman said:
I've search on here and no one has come right out and said they have unlocked the XSL's bootloader. Sony's own site doesn't show it as a supported model. Where can you get it for less?!
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IPMART Malaysia
javitogomezzzz said:
Does this mean that the SL's bootloader can't be unlocked?
I'm planning to buy a XS/XSL too, and i can get the SL for a lower price
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It can also be unlocked but I thought the S would be cheaper then the SL
Just buy the cheapest one, XS roms also work on SL and vice versa
any body make a custom rom for Xperia SL (Real SL)
becuase all of custom rom are Xperia S
I guess all Roms for Xperia s will be compatible with the sl. Not sure though.
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It can also be unlocked but I thought the S would be cheaper then the SL
Just buy the cheapest one, XS roms also work on SL and vice versa
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Kernels are compatible too, right? I really don't matter if i end up turning the SL into an S, because, as i said before, i can get the SL for a lower price
If for some reason i would like to go back to the stock rom, could i use one of the "stock roms for xperia s thread" that is at the development section or i would have to get the stock official rom for SL?
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Kernels are compatible too, right? I really don't matter if i end up turning the SL into an S, because, as i said before, i can get the SL for a lower price
If for some reason i would like to go back to the stock rom, could i use one of the "stock roms for xperia s thread" that is at the development section or i would have to get the stock official rom for SL?
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It'll be better to get an S!! because its tries and tested and u have a lot of ppl to hold u back!! SL is just picking up!
The S is exactly the same as the SL just the SL is overclocked from the factory. I have a SL, shoulda just bought the S and saved some money.
Is something wrong with the device
i want to know is there something wrong with the hardware or anything i really want to buy it but m confused.