New GSIII user (just got it for Black Friday). 2 questions relating to the lock screen.
1. I read another post sort of related to this, but not really (almost the opposite in fact, he wanted the pattern or pin lock but had other issues). So, I have my lock screen set to unlock with only the swipe. Why are none of the advanced lock screen options available unless you choose a more stringent unlock option (like pattern or PIN)? Even with just plain swipe, I want a delayed lock after the screen shuts off, and and I want to st DISABLE the instant lock with the power button. Is there any way to do this without having to set a more stringent unlock method? And if not, what possible reason would the designers have for now allowing those other options without using a higher unlock method?
2. Not sure if this due to the lock screen, or a bug with Bluetooth, or a combination of both. I actually tried playing with a pattern unlock screen, but when I have that enabled I can't do Bluetooth voice dialing. I press the Bluetooth headset offhook button, and the phone wakes up, but then it just sits at the pattern unlock screeen and won't respond to voice until I unlock the pattern. But if I revert to just a plain swipe unlock, then the Bluetooth voice dialing works just fine (I press the headset button, phone wakes up AND listens for voice). Bluetooth voice dialing is a CRITICAL function for me.
Any help is greatly appreciated! Thank you!
I got hold of a Samsung tech via live chat on their web site and he confirmed that this is how it it works. I suggested these were poor design decisions and asked they pass along my request to ask that these be changed in a future update (of course, no gurantee that there will even be a future update, but I can hope).
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i was wondering if i could get sum people to tell me about ehir experiences with their locking/unlocking programs...such as, which ones youve used with success...im interested in knowing which ones use the least about of battery power, least amount of memory/ram...so on and so forth...any input wiould be greatly appreciated
specifically programs being used with the touch pro 2
I'm personally not a big fan of screen lock programs. I just think that for something as simple as locking the screen, the end-user shouldn't have to give up anything in terms of resources/battery life.
That's why I suggest sticking with the default WinMo lock.
I suggest either SmartLock or LockDevice to auto lock your device. Neither uses up any resources.
I've perused the threads concerning both the locking apps you cite above, but both appear to have some issues (i.e. not everything working properly after the install). I'm specifically looking for a way to have the screen locked when the device is turned on, mostly because I carry the thing in my pocket (yes, with a screen protector) and want to be sure that if I should inadvertently bump the power button I don't end up calling friends overseas from the inside of my pocket. It doesn't appear to me as if the default locking app can do this (and not simply turn on the lock after a timeout) -- or am I missing something?
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I've perused the threads concerning both the locking apps you cite above, but both appear to have some issues (i.e. not everything working properly after the install). I'm specifically looking for a way to have the screen locked when the device is turned on, mostly because I carry the thing in my pocket (yes, with a screen protector) and want to be sure that if I should inadvertently bump the power button I don't end up calling friends overseas from the inside of my pocket. It doesn't appear to me as if the default locking app can do this (and not simply turn on the lock after a timeout) -- or am I missing something?
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I've used both of those apps and it works fine for me. I have the exact same concern that you have. I don't want the device to wake because someone called and hung up after a second, thus making the screen susceptible to taps.
In both apps, you can customize how you want the lock mechanism to kick in. You can set it to lock when you screen goes off. My personal preference is to set it to lock on suspend.
I'm not really sure what you mean. If your device is locked (with the WinMo default lock), you won't be able to do anything (including making calls) without unlocking it first either via tap & slide (WinMo 6.5) or left soft key & unlock button (WinMo 6.1).
I would really like to use the app, but there is a dialer conflict when getting incoming calls for boths apps. For example during an incoming call, I initially get HTC dialer. During the middle of the call, I get the original WM dialer. Do you have any suggestions to avoid this problem?
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pistou said:
I've perused the threads concerning both the locking apps you cite above, but both appear to have some issues (i.e. not everything working properly after the install). I'm specifically looking for a way to have the screen locked when the device is turned on, mostly because I carry the thing in my pocket (yes, with a screen protector) and want to be sure that if I should inadvertently bump the power button I don't end up calling friends overseas from the inside of my pocket. It doesn't appear to me as if the default locking app can do this (and not simply turn on the lock after a timeout) -- or am I missing something?
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I've used both of those apps and it works fine for me. I have the exact same concern that you have. I don't want the device to wake because someone called and hung up after a second, thus making the screen susceptible to taps.
In both apps, you can customize how you want the lock mechanism to kick in. You can set it to lock when you screen goes off. My personal preference is to set it to lock on suspend.
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Thanks: I've loaded lockDevice and so far so good
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I'm not really sure what you mean. If your device is locked (with the WinMo default lock), you won't be able to do anything (including making calls) without unlocking it first either via tap & slide (WinMo 6.5) or left soft key & unlock button (WinMo 6.1).
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What I meant was that my understanding of the default WinMo lock is that it only locks after a specific period of in activity (which I don't want to happen) rather than after a suspend (which is what I do want).
Hi All!
I found a few threads on the Internet in different forums with no answer so I thought I'll ask the pros:
When I'm using Pin or Password to unlock the phone, I get the standard lockscreen display before I can unlock the phone, so it goes:
On/Off Button -> Lock Screen -> Pin / Password
The problem is when I'm using an unlock pattern, the lock screen gets skipped, so it goes:
On/Off Button -> Unlock Pattern
This is very annoying since I like to use the lockscreens mute function without having to unlock the phone. Apparently there is no way of changing this with settings so I was wondering if anyone know of a patch or another way to have the lockscreen AND the unlock pattern?
I'm using the Oxygen 2.0 RC6 Gingerbread Rom on my Desire but this seems to be a generel "issue" with stock Android Roms (Hero Roms and Froyo Roms is the same) - Sense based Roms behave different.
Thx for any hint!
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I am having a similar issue and my searching only found this thread.
While at work (2/3rds of my waking life) I use my phone at work to see where my next appointment is. It's very convenient to just glance down and see what meeting I have next by only hitting the power button. From what I have seen there are a lot of apps which will add this functionality to the lock screen.
The problem is when I add a passcode (required by work) it replaces the unlock screen with the passcode screen. I have seen that other Android phones do not do this, but the Captivate does. I've tried four different roms and all have this same behavior.
Is it possible to have the unlock screen come up, and when the phone is unlocked to prompt the passcode? I can't find a setting anywhere and the third party apps like Flylock have a jarring user experience in this configuration.
Thanks
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Mabus the Mad said:
Is it possible to have the unlock screen come up, and when the phone is unlocked to prompt the passcode? I can't find a setting anywhere and the third party apps like Flylock have a jarring user experience in this configuration.
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The purpose of the pattern lock is to prevent unauthorized use of the phone. So it doesn't make sense if you put the lock screen over the pattern lock(or combined them) as you, or any stranger, will be able to issue commands(mute, read messages, weather, music etc. there are lots of widgets running on the lock screen) to the phone BEFORE unlocking it.
The security of the pattern lock will be totally compromised.
So the only choice is pattern lock over lock screen. I don't see how this makes anything easier. And I won't go into how it will create huge security loopholes/bypass the pattern lock completely if widgets or anything is allow to run on/over the lockscreen.
Perhaps I am using the wrong terminology, I should be referring to it as the "Unlock Screen" (Settings -> Display -> Unlock Screen). From this screen it appears that you can:
1) View the time
2) Unlock the phone
3) Mute the phone
4) See the notification bar (Vibrate, Battery, Signal, Pending notifications, etc)
I would actually like to add:
5) Next calendar appointment with location
6) Weather
This is all actions / information I want available at a glance and without unlocking the phone. Once I attempt to unlock I would like to be presented with the pattern / pin security. In this way all my private information remains hidden, but the information I use the most often while walking / driving is readily available.
I am also good with anyone else being able to pick up my phone and perform the actions I listed on the unlock screen. I believe this information is available from the unlock screen on the Windows Phone and iPhone (assuming it's your only notification, their notification system sucks).
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This is all actions / information I want available at a glance and without unlocking the phone. Once I attempt to unlock I would like to be presented with the pattern / pin security. In this way all my private information remains hidden, but the information I use the most often while walking / driving is readily available.
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That PERMISSION to allow you do issue commands to your phone will compromise the security of the pattern/pin lock screen. You need to understand the core concept of the pattern lock screen is to be secure - no unauthorized use of the phone, whether it's as small as viewing notifications to fullon running widgets/apps.
Plus your definition of being secure doesn't equate to everyone's definition of security. It fine for you to display messages on the securely locked phone but it's definitely not for some of my friends who have really sensitive data on their phone.
I was not trying to advocate this behavior to everyone, just wondering if it was possible to set this up myself. One of the things I like about this phone is that everyone can customize it to fit their own tastes.
Actually, I think I found my solution. Flashed to CM7 last night. The pattern screen still had the behavior as the 2.2 roms but the passcode had the behavior I was looking for.
Well the thing is: When using PIN or Password to unlock, you can actually use the lockscreen to mute etc. before unlocking. And using the original HTC Rom, this is possible using unlock pattern, too. Everyone will have to decide for themself if he cosiders this function a thread to security, its just really annoying that I have to decide between unlock pattern and unlock screen even tho it should not be a problem technicaly. Cyanogen guys apparently have this on their list, but with minor priority. I'm really close to moving back to a HTC rom actually...
this bugs me too.. I like the PATTERN cause it's kind of unique and cool plus when you enter your pattern there is no "OK" key you have to press like you do when using PIN/PASSWORD which for some reason annoys me.. I suppose it's another line of defense against prying eyes that make it that much more work to try different pin options.. I don't know maybe it's to annoy them into giving up?.. Anyways, I've opted to use the PIN option because I too like seeing the Lock Screen and any info it has and I really don't see it as that big a security hole seeing the small amount of info on the lock screen.. unless you're running a ROM or app that has popups for messages and such.. and if it really is then Google should make the behavior that you do pattern then to the lock screen. of course I'm sure their reasoning for this is the pattern is a more difficult form of security to breach so there is benefit and no harm from taking you straight into the unlocked phone once the correct pattern has been entered. that doesn't mean we have to agree with the mighty G on this and I'm sure either Devs cooking in the ROM kitchen could change the behavior if they saw the want in the community, maybe a patch could be made or an app that changes the behavior. anyways, that's my $.02
If any of you guys find a solution around this issue please let us know!
Haven't seen any solution yet, how about you guys?
Howdy Folks,
I may have ran into a show stopper on the Samsung Galaxy S3 from Telus. I need to have a PIN on my phone or some locking mechanism that is secured, swipe doesn't cut it, as I have working documents and phone numbers that I don't want easily accessed. I have a blueant S3 and a Motorola 505 hands free bluetooth device that work great when the phone is unlocked. However, S Voice doesn't appear to work when the phone is locked. When I try to place a call, I can see the phone light up, and have confirmed that S Voice is initiated, however, it does not accept the voice command. I have checked my call settings and the make outgoing calls when locked is checked. It works when swipe is engage, however, this is not an option for me.
Something I have found is that if I initiate the call with the hands free unit, click emergency call on the phone, click the return button from the emergency call, S Voice will start up. Sometime's it'll make the call, sometimes it won't.
Are there some settings that I'm missing?
Does anyone have a solution?
I sure hope so, otherwise, I will have to return the phone.
TIA for your responses.
Thanks,
Greg
I found a solution. I installed Tasker and Secure Settings. In Tasker, I create a profile for when a bluetooth connection is made to my handsfee unit. I then created a task that disables my PIN. I also created a profile that re-enables my PIN when the bluetooth connection is lost.
After a month of searching, I finally found a solution. I still say that Samsung has this screwed up and I'm very disappointed that I even had to install third party software to make something work.
Greg
This has been a problem for me also. I don't want to leave my phone unlocked all the time. Are those two separate programs?
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This has been a problem for me also. I don't want to leave my phone unlocked all the time. Are those two separate programs?
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They are two seperate apps within play store. Secure Settings is a plugin for Tasker, so you access it through it. Here's more detail on how to set it up:
Profile->Bluetooth Connected
Task->PlugIn->Secure Settings->Password/Pin->Disabled
I then added an Exit Task
Task->Plugin0>Secure Settings->Password/Pin->Enabled (Set to my old
PIN number)
Perfect! I definitely wouldn't have figured this one out without your help. I'll test it out tomorrow and see how well it works.
Couldn't get it to work with Samsung S4
Great suggestion on using Tasker, but unfortunately, I could make it work with my Galaxy S4. I successfully created the macro in Tasker and could get the lock on the lock screen to disable, but I could not get the phone to turn off the lock screen altogether (I'm running 4.2.2 unrooted). Couldn't find the ability in Tasker with Secure Settings to altogether turn off the lock screen (not just clear the lock). My phone is set to allow dialing from an accessory with the screen locked, but the phone isn't following that. If I have any lock screen (even with no lock set), bluetooth won't complete the call until the lock screen is cleared (even if it only requires a swipe). After not succeeding with this, I also tried to use Tasker to activate a couple unlock apps from the Google Play store, but those too had no capability to altogether disable the lockscreen so that the power button takes you directly to the home screen. Further research revealed an app called BtWiLocker that is designed to unlock the phone and clear the lockscreen when BT or WiFi are connected and relock when done. I've used that for a day so far, and it seems to be working OK after playing with it a little to get the settings correct.
I got it to clear the password when a BT connection was made, and reset the pin passcode when the BT connection ended.
The key thing is to create another profile for the BT connection when not connected. This can be done by checking off the "inverted" check box.
Initially, I only got 1/2 of it to work where it will clear, but if the device sleeps it will be locked again.
I posted this in General, but have not had any responses.
I am currently using the stable CM10 and am wondering if there is a way to separate the screen unlock (simple swipe etc) from the security lock (pin or pattern) features.
I would prefer my screen to turn off after a few minutes or with power button, and then when reactivated require a swipe (puzzle lock etc) to access apps. The idea on this is preventing accidental app activation in a pocket etc, but having quick access to slider short cuts.
However, I would like it to require a secure pin or pattern to access after a longer preset time (some longer time out). The idea here is my phone is found or stolen from me, users can see my info on the home lock screen but cannot access anything else..
Is this possible?
Thank you ,
Don
Hey everyone, I am wondering if anybody has tried out the trusted voice feature of google now? I'm trying to get this working. I have an LG G4, running the latest OS and patches as of 6/19. The end goal is that I want to say "Ok Google" from a completely locked and shut off screen, and have it wake up the phone and accept a command. Ideally, I would like to be able to wake the phone up and have it accept commands from a dark screen, even without a lock screen in place, but I'm not sure that's even possible. I want to do this so I can do some voice controls while i'm in the car, without having to interact with the phone and unlock it every 30 seconds.
Here is what I have setup:
1 - Settings - Lock Screen - Select a screen lock - Created a PIN
2 - Settings - Lock Screen - Smart Lock - Trusted Voice change to On
3 - Google Settings - "Ok Google" detection - From the google app/From any screen/Trusted voice all turned On
The end result is that if the screen is locked but lit up, I can say Ok Google and it will accept a command. However, if the screen is dark, it does not respond at all. Has anyone else tested the trusted voice feature, and is this expected behavior? I did a search but haven't come up with anything. Thanks in advance for any help.
I use that but it will only unlock from off if charging.
Sent from Verizon LG G4