basically what I want is a OTG cable that splits off to a regular mini USB as well.
what I'm trying to do is be able to plug my phone into the charger and be able to plug In a ps3 controller into the note 2 as well.
I know I can do this wirelessly because I already do this. But what if I'm gonna charge my ps3 controller and my note 2 at the same time?
the only way I see you can do this is taking USB OTG cable and then connect that to a USB Male to male. Take the one male and connect that to usb to adapter that splits into 2 males. One of those males will go into the charger and the other will connect to a USB mini adapter and connect ps3 controller to the mini adapter.
Sounds very confusing but sure if it work between all that.
What would be easier if they had a micro USB splitter that splits into a USB adapter and a mini USB.
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like this? http://www.ebay.com.sg/itm/Micro-US...Accessories&hash=item20cdc2cc21#ht_3873wt_906
I got this from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2006365&highlight=otg+cable
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like this? http://www.ebay.com.sg/itm/Micro-US...Accessories&hash=item20cdc2cc21#ht_3873wt_906
I got this from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2006365&highlight=otg+cable
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it's kind of like what I'm looking for but I'm kind of looking more of a micro USB with an adapter but also has a mini USB attachment too
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Or is there a micro USB to dual usb adapter so I can use a mouse and keyboard or other things
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umm... usb hub... they are everywhere. either that or unified receivers (one receiver that handles both the mouse and the keyboard) or since you are out buying all that crap just go out and buy Bluetooth keyboards and mice
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umm... usb hub... they are everywhere. either that or unified receivers (one receiver that handles both the mouse and the keyboard) or since you are out buying all that crap just go out and buy Bluetooth keyboards and mice
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That makes sense haha but here's a question can I use a 4 port usb hub to connect my charger to it to charge phone and connect mouse and keyboard as well as ps3 controller? Or do I need a hub with ac adapter?
Or will it not work? The usb connected to the wall charger connected to an adapter to the hub?
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I don't think it will work, the dock achieves this, probably by informing the phone that it's a dock, but the adapters rely on shorting the ground wire to tell the phone it needs to become an usb host. I don't have empirical data but my electronics training tells me the power supply (charger) wouldn't love a short on it's grounding and wouldn't charge the phone...also when going into usb otg mode the phone supplies power, so the charger would see this as a short or an over current situation and not charge.
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I don't think it will work, the dock achieves this, probably by informing the phone that it's a dock, but the adapters rely on shorting the ground wire to tell the phone it needs to become an usb host. I don't have empirical data but my electronics training tells me the power supply (charger) wouldn't love a short on it's grounding and wouldn't charge the phone...also when going into usb otg mode the phone supplies power, so the charger would see this as a short or an over current situation and not charge.
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Okay but could a use the usb hub and connect the keyboard and mouse and ps3 controller.
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Okay but could a use the usb hub and connect the keyboard and mouse and ps3 controller.
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yes, just needs to be a powered hub
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yes, just needs to be a powered hub
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so this wont work i take it? http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000Q8UAWY/ref=gno_cart_title_1
because both mouse and keyboard would be using through Bluetooth adapter. i already use the mouse and it works through the regular Samsung otg cable.
Can that just work off from the Note 2's Power Supply?
it can only power 1 device, and barely. it outputs around 300mA which is enough for a usb stick, a mouse, a keyboard, or a controller, but not for external hard drives nor other phones your usb hub would have to be powered our else you may suffer reliability and connection problems with your keyboard mouse and controller. basically if you pressed a button on all three the phone would lose them all momentarily
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it can only power 1 device, and barely. it outputs around 300mA which is enough for a usb stick, a mouse, a keyboard, or a controller, but not for external hard drives nor other phones your usb hub would have to be powered our else you may suffer reliability and connection problems with your keyboard mouse and controller. basically if you pressed a button on all three the phone would lose them all momentarily
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Damn because that was cheap. Can you recommend anything of that sort then? Thanks for the help and info
Edit: could that 5$ hub I mentioned be able to just do both mouse and keyboard only without issues?
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Damn because that was cheap. Can you recommend anything of that sort then? Thanks for the help and info
Edit: could that 5$ hub I mentioned be able to just do both mouse and keyboard only without issues?
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not without issues... it would cut in and out specially if pressing them both at the same time
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not without issues... it would cut in and out specially if pressing them both at the same time
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anything you can recommend then? i saw this but not sure how it would work i mean its connected to the wall and if i connect a the mouse and keyboard how does my phone see it being connected seeing how its not connected directly to my phone?
XxLostSoulxX said:
basically what I want is a OTG cable that splits off to a regular mini USB as well.
what I'm trying to do is be able to plug my phone into the charger and be able to plug In a ps3 controller into the note 2 as well.
I know I can do this wirelessly because I already do this. But what if I'm gonna charge my ps3 controller and my note 2 at the same time?
the only way I see you can do this is taking USB OTG cable and then connect that to a USB Male to male. Take the one male and connect that to usb to adapter that splits into 2 males. One of those males will go into the charger and the other will connect to a USB mini adapter and connect ps3 controller to the mini adapter.
Sounds very confusing but sure if it work between all that.
What would be easier if they had a micro USB splitter that splits into a USB adapter and a mini USB.
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What you want is a 11 PIN micro USB splitter (not made yet but will be) and a Mini female to micro male USB cable adapter (amazon).
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Mini...USB+Female+to+mini+USB+Male+Adapter+Converter
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What you want is a 11 PIN micro USB splitter (not made yet but will be) and a Mini female to micro male USB cable adapter (amazon).
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Mini...USB+Female+to+mini+USB+Male+Adapter+Converter
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Mini to micro isn't going to help me that only solves ps3 controller. But I already have that down with the otg cable or wirelessly. I want a cable like that has a micro to the usb adapter(otg) that also splits into a usb male. Or a micro to dual usb adapter.
Or to do all at once a powered hub like the other guy had mention
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only thing is to buy the dock
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only thing is to buy the dock
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1 thing is that it's 100 dollars. second thing is basically I can't put in horizontal mode if I want to use a keyboard and mouse and browse the Internet I don't want to browse it straight up and down. not to mention if I want to play games as well if I'm using ps3 controller to charge it at the same time I can't do that. who wants to play games tilting their head to watch because of the fact that the phone is mounted vertically instead of horizontally.
I mean I don't understand why it so hard to find a micro USB to a dual USB adapters I mean that shouldn't be that hard to make haha. with that I can use a keyboard and mouse using Unifying receiver. and then the other USB adapter can go straight to the ps3 controller.
So it would be called micro usb male to dual usb female
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1 thing is that it's 100 dollars. second thing is basically I can't put in horizontal mode if I want to use a keyboard and mouse and browse the Internet I don't want to browse it straight up and down. not to mention if I want to play games as well if I'm using ps3 controller to charge it at the same time I can't do that. who wants to play games tilting their head to watch because of the fact that the phone is mounted vertically instead of horizontally.
I mean I don't understand why it so hard to find a micro USB to a dual USB adapters I mean that shouldn't be that hard to make haha. with that I can use a keyboard and mouse using Unifying receiver. and then the other USB adapter can go straight to the ps3 controller.
So it would be called micro usb male to dual usb female
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here's what I don't understand if I take that USB hub connect it to the adapter that I have, and have the USB Bluetooth and keyboard bluetooth in there at the same time, I shouldn't have issues because if im browsing the internet I'm not going to be typing keys on the keyboard and moving the mouse at the same time. so in theory I can move the mouse around Lets say go to the address bar stop using the mouse and go to the keyboard and start typing on the keyboard. so basically I will only be using 1 port at a time. instead of moving the mouse and typing keys at the same time I won't be doing something like that just be ridiculous haha.
so can I use that Belkin USB 4 port and just basically use the two USB Bluetooth hooked up to it. so the port will be connected to the OTG cable. if this makes sense I'll connect the OTG cable to the hub and the 2 Bluetooth to the hub
because if I honestly wanted if I wanted to play video games like grand theft auto I can use the keyboard to type cheats and stuff. use the keyboard through the OTG cable. and connect my ps3 controller wirelessly.
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XxLostSoulxX said:
here's what I don't understand if I take that USB hub connect it to the adapter that I have, and have the USB Bluetooth and keyboard bluetooth in there at the same time, I shouldn't have issues because if im browsing the internet I'm not going to be typing keys on the keyboard and moving the mouse at the same time. so in theory I can move the mouse around Lets say go to the address bar stop using the mouse and go to the keyboard and start typing on the keyboard. so basically I will only be using 1 port at a time. instead of moving the mouse and typing keys at the same time I won't be doing something like that just be ridiculous haha.
so can I use that Belkin USB 4 port and just basically use the two USB Bluetooth hooked up to it. so the port will be connected to the OTG cable. if this makes sense I'll connect the OTG cable to the hub and the 2 Bluetooth to the hub
because if I honestly wanted if I wanted to play video games like grand theft auto I can use the keyboard to type cheats and stuff. use the keyboard through the OTG cable. and connect my ps3 controller wirelessly.
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wowowow, no, keyboard, mice and ps3 will only be afected if they are wiered or rf. bluetooth devices wont interfere with each other, you can have a ton of devices on bluetooth and not even need the usb otg... you dont need a buetooth adapter for this, phone, it comes with bluetooth, so any bluetooth item should work with the phone while it's charging without needing the usb otg cable at all. ps3 controllers are bluetooth by default. you dont need to plug them to the phone.
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In short, its not working for me.
I use the Samsung usb cable + female USB to micro USB adapter to connect to the ps3 controller.
Anyone had better luck?
My adapter shipped today ill let u know how it works out.
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schwiz said:
My adapter shipped today ill let u know how it works out.
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Where did u buy the adapter ? Last I checked it was backordered everywhere.
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clubtech said:
Where did u buy the adapter ? Last I checked it was backordered everywhere.
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Bought off amazon just searched female to female USB they have a few choices
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Do you think that will work for Mass Storage as well? I bought one off ebay for 1.49 so we can try it out. Hopefully it will come before friday morning so i can test.
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Do you think that will work for Mass Storage as well? I bought one off ebay for 1.49 so we can try it out. Hopefully it will come before friday morning so i can test.
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Didn't thought of that, I'll try it out tonight.
If you're just taking the USB cable that came with the tablet, changing it's gender and plugging something into the end, it won't work. The tablet would need to have USB Host support which this tablet does not. I believe that the Samsung USB Adapter that converts directly from the Samsung Connector to USB Female will add USB Host support (USB OTG).
Here is the USB Adapter. http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/galaxy-tab-accessories/EPL-1PL0BEGSTA
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If you're just taking the USB cable that came with the tablet, changing it's gender and plugging something into the end, it won't work. The tablet would need to have USB Host support which this tablet does not. I believe that the Samsung USB Adapter that converts directly from the Samsung Connector to USB Female will add USB Host support (USB OTG).
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All 3.1 are USB host. However, the female to female adapter doesn't do the trick.
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All 3.1 are USB host. However, the female to female adapter doesn't do the trick.
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I'm sorry, but you're wrong. Honeycomb 3.1 adds SOFTWARE support for USB Host funtionality. The device has to have HARDWARE support as well. This tablet does not. That is the reason that you need a special adapter that provides USB Host HARDWARE funtionality, such as the one I listed above.
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I'm sorry, but you're wrong. Honeycomb 3.1 adds SOFTWARE support for USB Host funtionality. The device has to have HARDWARE support as well. This tablet does not. That is the reason that you need a special adapter that provides USB Host HARDWARE funtionality, such as the one I listed above.
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Well that blows. I just ran down to best buy to try and grab one of these adapters but they are back ordered. Said they have no idea when they will have them next.
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I've got my fingers crossed Samsung hasn't dicked up the Bluetooth stack on the Galaxy Tab 10.1/8.9:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYtGX-PaJFY
Sorry to dig up the old thread but did anyone get this to work? I would love to play emulators on this tablet!
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Sorry to dig up the old thread but did anyone get this to work? I would love to play emulators on this tablet!
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Yes. There's a lot of misinformation in this thread. The tablet DOES have USB Host capability, but it will only enable it when it sees a specific resistor on a particular pin in the dock connector.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1155065 for more details.
To get USB Host, there are two approaches:
1) Make your own cable with the correct resistors
2) Purchase the Samsung USB Host adapter which is now available for around $20.
Note that there are some limitations:
1) Xbox360 controllers and PS3 controllers are not standard HID devices and require kernel support not present in stock kernels. Pershoot's kernel has the necessary modules.
2) PS3 controllers must be fully charged before trying to use them. If not they will try to charge their battery from the tab and cause an overcurrent trip, disabling the port until the USB dongle is disconnected.
Also, Samsung didn't mangle the Bluetooth stack like they do with their phones, so wiimotes work.
Not working for me
Not sure if there's a specific USB setting, but I bought the adapted and it works with Chainfire's DSLR Controller no problem. I plugged in the playstation 3 remote and had no luck, nor any detection of the device. Tried running an n64 emulator to try to map the keys, no luck there either.
All of the guides seem to be using a Xoom, I'm on the brand new OTA on the GT10.1
Anyone else?
USB Adapter for Galaxy tab 10.1
Verizon wireless corporate stores have the adapter in stock they will have to order it but last time i checked they had about 4000 in the warehouse, I hope this is helpful for those of you who are patiently waiting.
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Not sure if there's a specific USB setting, but I bought the adapted and it works with Chainfire's DSLR Controller no problem. I plugged in the playstation 3 remote and had no luck, nor any detection of the device. Tried running an n64 emulator to try to map the keys, no luck there either.
All of the guides seem to be using a Xoom, I'm on the brand new OTA on the GT10.1
Anyone else?
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Which kernel are you running? Did you read my notes in the post prior to yours at all?
So, if i get the official USB adapter my regular wireless keyboard (Logitech Wave) should work seamlessly. Right?
I've just been using the "SixAxis Controller" app from Dancing Pixel (you can find it on the Android Market) to connect my PS3 controller to my tablet over Bluetooth. It's worked great for me (note: I use yongzh's emulators)
Hope that helps with the PS3 issues...I don't really know much about the USB adapter as I don't use it.
Has anyone tried using a Micro USB OTG adapter and MHL HDMI adapter at the same time? Is it even possible?
Thinking of watching movies off of an external drive on my HDTV with the GN. I may just have to stream them from my computer over WiFi.
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Has anyone tried using a Micro USB OTG adapter and MHL HDMI adapter at the same time? Is it even possible?
Thinking of watching movies off of an external drive on my HDTV with the GN. I may just have to stream them from my computer over WiFi.
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Unfortunately I don't believe its possible. I wish though...
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cmac86 said:
Has anyone tried using a Micro USB OTG adapter and MHL HDMI adapter at the same time? Is it even possible?
Thinking of watching movies off of an external drive on my HDTV with the GN. I may just have to stream them from my computer over WiFi.
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Yeah! Is it possible?
I ordered all components yesterday to test this exact thing. I will report back with my findings. I ordered the mhl adapter, HDMI cable, and the otg cable. I already have a micro SD reader that's extremely small. Total cost was $30 on amazon.... I also ordered a wii sensor bar that was around 6 bis. I'm also going to attempt to integrate the otg cable in a case. Pics will follow
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I think that isn't possible. Both MHL and USB OTG uses the same microusb port, but behind that there are different circuits. Depending on wich connector you plug in the hardware will know if you are connecting an usb or a HDMI.
More, the microusb on MHL connector is only for ac supply.
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Has anyone tried using a Micro USB OTG adapter and MHL HDMI adapter at the same time? Is it even possible?
Thinking of watching movies off of an external drive on my HDTV with the GN. I may just have to stream them from my computer over WiFi.
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From what ive read, it is not possible. Youre disabling usb to get hdmi function through 4 wires. And that function needs power.
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Since I'll be using them either way. It doesn't hurt to try.
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MHL and OTG
@justin94, please report back if you get it working. Actually, if you can get OTG to work at all with or without MHL let us know. I've gotten the MHL to work. But I need to connect some USB devices up, and from what I've read, the current Nexus stock firmware doesn't support OTG/Host.
Also, what OTG cable did you order? I've heard there are ones that don't work?
waiting for an answer.
Just got confirmation of shipment the mhl adapter and HDMI cable. No estimated deliver date as of yet. Have patience people.
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Just got confirmation of shipment the mhl adapter and HDMI cable. No estimated deliver date as of yet. Have patience people.
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NO NAO~! lol. j/k
MHL will only charge the phone via USB. You can't use USB data. Bluetooth is your only option for external hardware input (controllers, etc... but not thumb drives)
I don't want to rain on your parade, but I said it would charge your phone at the same time, but it's limited to 500ma. Nexus reports as USB charging, not AC charging. So if you intend to watch a long movie and game real hard via emulation and bluetooth, your phone will run out of battery.
Another poor design decision. They should have just put a HDMI port separately. MHL fail.
The only saving grace will be using the pogo pins to charge the phone via AC so you can get 1A charging while using MHL.
MHL fail.
Update!!!
Just received the mhl adapter and HDMI cable. Its plug and play, however, it does require power..... so my hopes of getting this to work are almost over..... except that I fairly good with electronics. So I'm going to do some splicing and dicing and see what works.
Don't worry, if it works I will post a full tutorial
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Update bump.
Just got the otg cable. Tested and works with stick mount. Later on tonight I will try to get them working simultaneously
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anxious to know how it works out. I've got the MHL and HDMI. It works but when I pulled the usb power the MHL went lights out so it may only be for power source. but you never know.
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anxious to know how it works out. I've got the MHL and HDMI. It works but when I pulled the usb power the MHL went lights out so it may only be for power source. but you never know.
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Unfortunately from what I understand that's all its for.
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Any news yet?
Sorry everyone. Due to some family issues I have really had time to sit down with array of electronics to try and make this work. Hopefully I can get to it before this weekend
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Justin94,
How do you plan to plug the MHL/HDMI adapter and USB OTG into the the GNex since it has one usb port. This has baffled my mind.
Some type of splitter configuration.
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Checked about 10 pages of threads and couldn't find anything related to this. But does anyone know if it is possible to use USB OTG while the phone is docked. For example could you just plug a USB OTG cable into the microUSB slot in the back of the dock and connect that to a powered USB hub?
If anyone has a dock and a USB OTG cable could you test this out for me? Thanks
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Checked about 10 pages of threads and couldn't find anything related to this. But does anyone know if it is possible to use USB OTG while the phone is docked. For example could you just plug a USB OTG cable into the microUSB slot in the back of the dock and connect that to a powered USB hub?
If anyone has a dock and a USB OTG cable could you test this out for me? Thanks
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what is OTG...i only know of On The Go.
I am curious myself
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That's exactly what it is... USB ON THE GO. Basically let's the phone act in usb host mode to support external peripherals like mouse, keyboard, game pads, thumb drives etc
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Hi,
Is there some sort of USB hub for OTG?
I've ordered an adapter (micro usb to HDMI) to connect my note to the TV..
But i also wanted to connect my wireless keyboard & mouse.
Tried it with a hub but doesnt work..
Some ideas?
Can't have OTG and MHL work in the same time, choose one or the other.
You could go with DLNA and a wired OTG solution, you would fail.
Your only real option would be be MHL and using Bluetooth to connect keyboard/mouse/peripherals.
There's no dock. You can make your own though, just search the forum.
This thread can be closed down now.
I'll just add that MHL + Bluetooth is my method... although I've now lost MHL on CM10 so my dream combo is bust for the mo!
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You mean like this ?
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/12096140...AX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_2577wt_702
and this is the one that I bought ...
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/17080557...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649#ht_3528wt_1193
Guys,
I was wondering whether it´s possible to have a "connection chain" like this to the GNex ???
1.) Connect an OTG cable to the micro USB port of the GNex
2.) Plug a standard self-powered USB hub into the OTG cable
3.) Apply an USB-A to Micro-AB adapter and so connect the Samsung Micro-USB2HDMI adapter to the USB hub
4.) Connect a Logitech game pad
5.) Connect a USB stick, portable drive, ... you name it
What´s the purpose you´re sure about to ask ... Well, launch any emulator on the GNex, bring the video output to my 46 inch plasma and gamble old games with the game pad over the GNex.
Do you think, it´ll work? I don´t wanna spend all the money for all the adapters and stuff ending up in a mess.
Cheers
Christian
Don't think it will work honestly.
I don't think this device supports mhl and otg. Sounds like the galaxy s3 does with a special cable. That cable does not work on our phone.
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Thx for the replies. Kinda sad, my idea won't work out.
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