Anyone else tired of getting shafted - Samsung Galaxy Nexus

By Gameloft in the graphics department on their games? Nova3 and MC4 we loose shadows and particle effects just to name 2 things. Even though devices like the nexus 10 or nexus 4 can easily handle them they don't get effects either. My GNex played NOVA3 with CF glitch perfectly. Why Gameloft no love v us you think? :3 at least madfinger gives us love I guess :|
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They probably get a Tegra3 kickback from Nvidia.

063_XOBX said:
They probably get a Tegra3 kickback from Nvidia.
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I'm talking about android in general, even on the nexus 7 they are disabled
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I'd be willing to bet its because of app piracy, and considering how easy it is to pirate an android app vs. an iOS app.
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msavic6 said:
I'd be willing to bet its because of app piracy, and considering how easy it is to pirate an android app vs. an iOS app.
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That'd be like developers making games for Mac and giving windows a **** version. Piracy will happen regardless of platform and if someone is going to pirate it wont matter if its iOS or android they'll get it done just the same
Edit: also by that logic why release it at all?
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ECOTOX said:
By Gameloft in the graphics department on their games? Nova3 and MC4 we loose shadows and particle effects just to name 2 things. Even though devices like the nexus 10 or nexus 4 can easily handle them they don't get effects either. My GNex played NOVA3 with CF glitch perfectly. Why Gameloft no love v us you think? :3 at least madfinger gives us love I guess :|
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Because iOS is the lead platform and it's not worth the money to put additional effort into optimizing for hundreds of combination of hardware running Android. This is where iOS is more awesome than Android.

skadebo said:
Because iOS is the lead platform and it's not worth the money to put additional effort into optimizing for hundreds of combination of hardware running Android. This is where iOS is more awesome than Android.
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Yea ik T.T I just don't like to admit it ... Gameloft makes games I wanna play but they're lazy bastards :| really wish android wasnt considered the ugly step child they gotta pay some attention to by some of the lead developers. Makes you wonder how long they plan looking at android that way.
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ECOTOX said:
Yea ik T.T I just don't like to admit it ... Gameloft makes games I wanna play but they're lazy bastards :| really wish android wasnt considered the ugly step child they gotta pay some attention to by some of the lead developers. Makes you wonder how long they plan looking at android that way.
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Like any industry we're going to see a consolidation of suppliers. For internals I'm thinking Samsung and Qualcomm, (Texas Instruments has dropped out, right?). For screen resolution I think it's still a crapshoot, hopefully we'll have settled on 1280 x 720 (OH HAI NEXUS 4 with your silly 768 width resolution, I thought Nexus was the reference. Will the reference change every year? That's nice).
But yeah, once everyone's on Samsung and Qualcomm silicon then maybe it'll be slightly easier for the devs to dev on Android.

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Like any industry we're going to see a consolidation of suppliers. For internals I'm thinking Samsung and Qualcomm, (Texas Instruments has dropped out, right?). For screen resolution I think it's still a crapshoot, hopefully we'll have settled on 1280 x 720 (OH HAI NEXUS 4 with your silly 768 width resolution, I thought Nexus was the reference. Will the reference change every year? That's nice).
But yeah, once everyone's on Samsung and Qualcomm silicon then maybe it'll be slightly easier for the devs to dev on Android.
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I suppose, but I see this mostly happening with big names. Smaller companies seem to have less problems but it's too much for the likes of Gameloft and others? The zenonia games for example I've had no problems with since my G1 back in the day. It's run on every device and every OS that I've had no issues. I don't think it's a matter of " difficulty" it's a matter of laziness. I will say in regards to hardware that I wouldn't count nvidia out so much I'm not a fan of them but I think that nvidia, Qualcomm, and Samsung will be the big three (sad to see Texas instrument go :c) Intel and AMD don't have much chance in the space outside of maybe tablets, I don't see them doing well in regards to phones. Though I would like to seem a dual core AMD APU with a radeon Chip in my phone or tablet
Edit: my opinion of laziness would also stem from the fact that Nova 3 hasn't worked on my GNex in almost two months since the last update and Gameloft has yet to fix it. The fact that they manage to break support then just don't fix it is ridiculous. No communication on the matter or anything.
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By difficulty I really means time and money. One thing I've learned since working in QA on mobile projects is that developers aren't lazy, management jus doesn't let them fix things due to the money involved.they would rather put money towards a new game for more sales while maintaining some semblance of quality, at least that's the idea. Some go for quantity of games over quality but in the long run they'll hurt themselves.

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By difficulty I really means time and money. One thing I've learned since working in QA on mobile projects is that developers aren't lazy, management jus doesn't let them fix things due to the money involved.they would rather put money towards a new game for more sales while maintaining some semblance of quality, at least that's the idea. Some go for quantity of games over quality but in the long run they'll hurt themselves.
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Agreed. That's why in this day and age u only have respect for some game developers. My list would go towards valve corporation as they still provide free dlc and bit releasing games that aren't done. My second goes to blizzard entertainment.
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Steam on Android needs to happen soon. And I mean "real" Steam.

skadebo said:
Because iOS is the lead platform and it's not worth the money to put additional effort into optimizing for hundreds of combination of hardware running Android. This is where iOS is more awesome than Android.
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Pretty sure android is the top platform.
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BrianDigital said:
Pretty sure android is the top platform.
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Too much hardware differentiation from a dev standpoint.

skadebo said:
By difficulty I really means time and money. One thing I've learned since working in QA on mobile projects is that developers aren't lazy, management jus doesn't let them fix things due to the money involved.they would rather put money towards a new game for more sales while maintaining some semblance of quality, at least that's the idea. Some go for quantity of games over quality but in the long run they'll hurt themselves.
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I know the individuals themselves aren't lazy I don't blamed the employee I blame the company they work for. Gameloft needs to get it straight that quality will earn them loyalty and in the long run five them better revenue due to a better reputation. Like Valve for instance, I'd buy any game they made in a heartbeat because I know the company as a whole provides quality games and customer support. Favoring a given platform in the mobile space with how it's evolving isnt gonna be the way to go. Companies need to look at the mobile space similar to the desktop/laptop gaming space not like consoles. Phones/tablets are closer to desktops/laptops in function and need to be treated as such. That's just my opinion c:
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063_XOBX said:
Too much hardware differentiation from a dev standpoint.
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In regards to games the functionality between devices isn't much different then how it is with everyday PCs. You got gaming rigs, low end laptops, etc. With single, dual, quads, some only support up to SSE2 instructions, some have GPU with steam core or the old pixel/vertex processor type. The mobile space is no different than regular computers in that regard. The processors are mostly ARM based or arm compatible which due to dalvik isn't a concern. GPU all have support for pretty much the same functions with some difference in things like supported texture formats. There really is no excuse as the mobile space isn't bringing anything radical to the table.
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Steam on Android needs to happen soon. And I mean "real" Steam.
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What would be considered "real" Steam? Valve making a source engine for Android and allownig devs to use it? ... hmm now that I loudly pointed that out, it is a pretty nice initiative if a source engine was made. I saw ports of CS and Portal 2 (which VALVE told the developer to take it off and the dev stopped the project) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6e9JhE9miOg

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What would be considered "real" Steam? Valve making a source engine for Android and allownig devs to use it? ... hmm now that I loudly pointed that out, it is a pretty nice initiative if a source engine was made. I saw ports of CS and Portal 2 (which VALVE told the developer to take it off and the dev stopped the project) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6e9JhE9miOg
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I heard rumor valve was considering it somewhere :3 steam that is
And I'd love to see a source port to mobile c:
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Asphalt 7 : HEAT [RELEASED] [DISCUSSION]

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Lets see how it works on our SGS2
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have played it on my ios devices,awsome gameplay and graphics.
waiting to get it on my s3
Yeah, we will literally feel the heat
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Yeah, we will literally feel the heat
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Lol
True but its been less in newer gameloft games(atleast for me on cm9)
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Good news but personally I don't like gamelofts... Asphalt played 5-6
Controls was very bad... I hacked asphalt 6 to complete some tracks lol it was so hard passing drift race Dmm... Nfs and racing thunder much better then it... As well as less in memory... That's my point...
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I can't wait to get this, loved 6 and hopefully this will be even better.
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Good news but personally I don't like gamelofts... Asphalt played 5-6
Controls was very bad... I hacked asphalt 6 to complete some tracks lol it was so hard passing drift race Dmm... Nfs and racing thunder much better then it... As well as less in memory... That's my point...
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So, you are trying to say that easier games are always better!!
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So, you are trying to say that easier games are always better!!
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For mobile phones, unfortunately, yes.. because they don't require such complex controls that action games need.. the screen size are limited on mobile phones so i never enjoyed games such as Max Payne and GTA.. asphalt series and other racing games, however are acceptable, but they're heavy and eats battery a lot..
So i prefer casual and simple games.. If you're into heavy gaming i suggest you to get a tablet instead..
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So, you are trying to say that easier games are always better!!
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Yeah...bcoz im on mobile not on ps3
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No asphalt 7 till now
Gameloft, Are you ****ing kidding me?
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I'm getting a bit upset, just because iPhone users always get stuff earlier and i cannot see why...
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I'm getting a bit upset, just because iPhone users always get stuff earlier and i cannot see why...
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Because gameloft sold their arse to apple
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asphalt7
It will be availabe on google play store on 27 th june ..i found it here bestandroidappfree..com
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Because gameloft sold their arse to apple
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Besides that, iOS developers have only a few products to deal with... 3GS, 4, 4S, the 3 editions of iPads and iTouch, whereas Android has several manufacturers with a gazillion phone models to work with, with different hardware specs and OS versions as well. So try to be in Gameloft's shoes for a sec. Besides, we don't want a released (paid) app that's full of bugs anyway.
I tweeted gameloft and just got a reply now
We have hit a slight delay with the android release, we anticipate it will be available by the end of this week.
Wow. This is going to be cool. Even better then those so called "Need for Speed" for PC. [after carbon, all nfs sucks. Best nfs: most wanted]
Gorjess said:
For mobile phones, unfortunately, yes.. because they don't require such complex controls that action games need.. the screen size are limited on mobile phones so i never enjoyed games such as Max Payne and GTA.. asphalt series and other racing games, however are acceptable, but they're heavy and eats battery a lot..
So i prefer casual and simple games.. If you're into heavy gaming i suggest you to get a tablet instead..
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Well, I connect my device with my led tv and a gaming pad. But dude, you can be great at anything. These are crap excuses!! I mean you say that games are hard...ya, but not impossible, man!
You can find multiplayer mode players there who are just damn great.
So, you people just accept that you can't do that.
You are blaming gameloft for making that type of games that you can't play!!
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rjsmer said:
Yeah...bcoz im on mobile not on ps3
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May be you should brush!
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Well, I connect my device with my led tv and a gaming pad. But dude, you can be great at anything. These are crap excuses!! I mean you say that games are hard...ya, but not impossible, man!
You can find multiplayer mode players there who are just damn great.
So, you people just accept that you can't do that.
You are blaming gameloft for making that type of games that you can't play!
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i'm not saying GL can't make games that playable, imo playing such games on a phone wont give you the best 'possible' result.. you definitely never play the same game on a different device.. that's why i recommend to play it on a tablet instead..
i may not be the best player/gamer but i choose not to.. sometimes it's boring and other people don't even care if you're that good.. i experienced this many times on numerous online games i've played.. now i play none of them..
oh, you have a TV and a gamepad.. but for gaming from a phone? seriously? PS3/X360 looks very outdated now..
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i'm not saying GL can't make games that playable, imo playing such games on a phone wont give you the best 'possible' result.. you definitely never play the same game on a different device.. that's why i recommend to play it on a tablet instead..
i may not be the best player/gamer but i choose not to.. sometimes it's boring and other people don't even care if you're that good.. i experienced this many times on numerous online games i've played.. now i play none of them..
oh, you have a TV and a gamepad.. but for gaming from a phone? seriously? PS3/X360 looks very outdated now..
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I do like them. But trying to be the best in everything doesnt look like a bad idea. Well, I like to play on PC more!
For me, I JUST LIKE TO TRY THEM ALL AND BEING GOOD TOO.
Happy gaming!!
Its always good to think before coming on a conclusion!!
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Besides that, iOS developers have only a few products to deal with... 3GS, 4, 4S, the 3 editions of iPads and iTouch, whereas Android has several manufacturers with a gazillion phone models to work with, with different hardware specs and OS versions as well. So try to be in Gameloft's shoes for a sec. Besides, we don't want a released (paid) app that's full of bugs anyway.
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That's right.
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Tegra 3-based gaming console running Android

Slightly off topic considering it has little to do with the HTC One X and more to do with Tegra 3... but: caught this little gem yesterday http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ouya/ouya-a-new-kind-of-video-game-console
Basically it's a quad-core Tegra 3 board (I'm presuming it has the ninja core as well) with these features:
1GB of RAM
8GB of internal flash storage
HDMI connection to the TV, with support for up to 1080p HD
WiFi 802.11 b/g/n
Bluetooth LE 4.0
USB 2.0 (one)
Wireless controller with standard controls (two analog sticks, d-pad, eight action buttons, a system button), a touchpad (add $30 per extra controller)
Android 4.0 < more Tegra 3 love in other words
And the price is $119 shipped! ($99 if you live in America, which I guess, considering the nature of the product that has brought us together, less of you guys do than is common for forums )
So I guess what this means for us (other than a pretty epic deal on a very cool gadget) is that there will be more Tegra 3-based games being developed in the future, and generally more Tegra 3-based Linux development! Congratulations everyone!
Cheap console, cheap games, good graphics - recipe for like Nintendo era again :good:
Oh man!
That thing is gonna be awesome!!
maybe one should throw 225$ at them!
Ouya gaming console raises $2 million on Kickstarter, doesn't know what to do with it
When we first detailed the Ouya $99 Android-based game console yesterday, we had a feeling it would become a hot property over at Kickstarter. But still, there's no way we anticipated this: the project has just raised $2 million in its first day, having sped past its initial $950,000 goal within a record-breaking 12 hours. Now, in an email to backers, the project has asked for feedback on its "stretch goals" -- in other words, what it should do if it makes even more cash and is able to set its sights on loftier ambitions. If you're a backer then check your email, if you're a potential backer then check the source link, and if you're a traditional VC then weep.
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just watched the video
very impressive effort
so now we have Nvidia's THD initiative, Nexus 7, PS Mobile and Ouya
who needs overclocked Mali
consider this, how many devices will be based on mali? vs how many containing T3? you do the math
If you ask me Nvidia low cost to the masses tegra policy seems to be working like magic
It reminds me of this article Tegra 3's Graphics: Untapped Potential?
Saw this yesterday from a gaming site, it looks impressive. Might pick one up just for an emulator fact.
If I'm correct they said this device came easy to root and install anything you wanted. I'm excited to see this run.
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Raider0001 said:
Cheap console, cheap games, good graphics - recipe for like Nintendo era again :good:
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Honestly I think we can expect better graphics from this thing than the Wii! I'd like an ethernet port or 802.11ac WLAN though, 802.11n often isn't enough for 1080p content.
I saw this yesterday too. They hit their budget/investment requirement in hours! Its not a surprise as its a really really great idea if implemented well. People love gaming on tvs and since almost everyone owns one, picking up a console like this is very affordable. Its price beats most consoles on the market. Forget consoles, even Tegra3 smartphones such as the HOX and others.
On a side note good for gamers on the hox as it will definitely push the THD powered games market means more and better THD games on the market can possible come.
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Honestly I think we can expect better graphics from this thing than the Wii! I'd like an ethernet port or 802.11ac WLAN though, 802.11n often isn't enough for 1080p content.
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considering how its android,open source with a usb port and all....
you can add that in yourself... maybe not all by yourself but support will be there
death__machine said:
I saw this yesterday too. They hit their budget/investment requirement in hours! Its not a surprise as its a really really great idea if implemented well. People love gaming on tvs and since almost everyone owns one, picking up a console like this is very affordable. Its price beats most consoles on the market. Forget consoles, even Tegra3 smartphones such as the HOX and others.
On a side note good for gamers on the hox as it will definitely push the THD powered games market means more and better THD games on the market can possible come.
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there is one more important thing
T3 will not be left to dust unlike T2
TV consoles last for years and so no dev can simply neglect optimizing for it
if they collected backers this fast, imagine the sales for this thing
however i doubt they will hit their price point
they will also face another issue by the time this thing launches, T4 will start shipping and hence you have an outdated platfrom on day 1 and it won't keep up with the incredible pace of mobile
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they linked to this video from their spec list
i imagine Gameloft is starting to panick after all the hate they collected in Tegra3 owners
thunder07 said:
considering how its android,open source with a usb port and all....
you can add that in yourself... maybe not all by yourself but support will be there
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Actually now that you mention it and I think more, it could be as small or basic as a Rasberry Pi PC with a little bit more. But thats taking the price into consideration. If they really aim at 99$ or so thats how I would do it.
A small device with basic functionality such as wifi(necessary as console gamers won't be downloading .apks and such they would buy directly from play store) output for tv and input for controllers. Obviously the mainboard and some memory and a few usb ports but nothing extra.
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there is one more important thing
T3 will not be left to dust unlike T2
TV consoles last for years and so no dev can simply neglect optimizing for it
if they collected backers this fast, imagine the sales for this thing
however i doubt they will hit their price point
they will also face another issue by the time this thing launchs, T4 will start shipping and hence you have an outed platfrom on day 1 and it won't keep up with the incredible pace of mobile
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I haven't really looked up on Tegra2 but you sound like it just died. Tegra3 on the other hand is a huge success imo. HOX, Nexus 7, Ouya, etc. like you mentioned. The Tegra3+ they plan to release won't be as successful imo.
Rekoil said:
Slightly off topic considering it has little to do with the HTC One X and more to do with Tegra 3... but: caught this little gem yesterday http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ouya/ouya-a-new-kind-of-video-game-console
Basically it's a quad-core Tegra 3 board (I'm presuming it has the ninja core as well) with these features:
1GB of RAM
8GB of internal flash storage
HDMI connection to the TV, with support for up to 1080p HD
WiFi 802.11 b/g/n
Bluetooth LE 4.0
USB 2.0 (one)
Wireless controller with standard controls (two analog sticks, d-pad, eight action buttons, a system button), a touchpad (add $30 per extra controller)
Android 4.0 < more Tegra 3 love in other words
And the price is $119 shipped! ($99 if you live in America, which I guess, considering the nature of the product that has brought us together, less of you guys do than is common for forums )
So I guess what this means for us (other than a pretty epic deal on a very cool gadget) is that there will be more Tegra 3-based games being developed in the future, and generally more Tegra 3-based Linux development! Congratulations everyone!
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Ninja Core xD
death__machine said:
Actually now that you mention it and I think more, it could be as small or basic as a Rasberry Pi PC with a little bit more. But thats taking the price into consideration. If they really aim at 99$ or so thats how I would do it.
A small device with basic functionality such as wifi(necessary as console gamers won't be downloading .apks and such they would buy directly from play store) output for tv and input for controllers. Obviously the mainboard and some memory and a few usb ports but nothing extra.
I haven't really looked up on Tegra2 but you sound like it just died. Tegra3 on the other hand is a huge success imo. HOX, Nexus 7, Ouya, etc. like you mentioned. The Tegra3+ they plan to release won't be as successful imo.
Ninja Core xD
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the 5th core can be used in a console differently to drive the UI and free the other cores for their main job
their release date is march
dunno its starting to feel we are going backwards after all the advancing we made with the PS3/Xbox360
why do we need this when the next gen is around the corner?
T3 makes sense in a mobile but as a console i dunno
I nearly brought this I even entered my details then cancelled.
This is why I wanted it- cheap and more than likely be worth more than the money you pay for it. It looks great.
The reason why I cancelled is yes games on my phone are great but personally I don't think they compare to a console.
I don't see a lot of devs making games expecially for this either. I just see this playing phone or tablet games on my tv.
I can do this already if I buy a cable for my phone and use a bluetooth controller.
I hope they do well as more tegra 3 games for us would be great
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colemanuk said:
I nearly brought this I even entered my details then cancelled.
This is why I wanted it- cheap and more than likely be worth more than the money you pay for it. It looks great.
The reason why I cancelled is yes games on my phone are great but personally I don't think they compare to a console.
I don't see a lot of devs making games expecially for this either. I just see this playing phone or tablet games on my tv.
I can do this already if I buy a cable for my phone and use a bluetooth controller.
I hope they do well as more tegra 3 games for us would be great
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yea my thoughts exactly
by the way the N7 doesnt have MHL support if i am correct?
This would have actually been a no brainer for gameloft if you think about it
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hamdir said:
the 5th core can be used in a console differently to drive the UI and free the other cores for their main job
their release date is march
dunno its starting to feel we are going backwards after all the advancing we made with the PS3/Xbox360
why do we need this when the next gen is around the corner?
T3 makes sense in a mobile but as a console i dunno
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I don't think ouya is really aiming at the hardcore gaming market, the Wii came around the same time as the Xbox 360 and the PS3, yet it wasn't nearly as good, that's because they went for the casual and younger gamer, and their needs are very likely both met and exceeded by the Tegra 3.
And yeah, 5th core could power background tasks like say a chat network similar to what Xbox live has.
colemanuk said:
I nearly brought this I even entered my details then cancelled.
This is why I wanted it- cheap and more than likely be worth more than the money you pay for it. It looks great.
The reason why I cancelled is yes games on my phone are great but personally I don't think they compare to a console.
I don't see a lot of devs making games expecially for this either. I just see this playing phone or tablet games on my tv.
I can do this already if I buy a cable for my phone and use a bluetooth controller.
I hope they do well as more tegra 3 games for us would be great
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You do realise that you don't buy things on Kickstarter right, you fund projects, and your money wouldn't have been taken from your bank account until the 9th of August.
colemanuk said:
This would have actually been a no brainer for gameloft if you think about it
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so far im puzzled as their attitude toward the T3
if you look at the A7 config files, its detecting the game as "medium_android" with almost everything off, not a single reference to tegra
its as if it doesn't exists
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I don't think ouya is really aiming at the hardcore gaming market, the Wii came around the same time as the Xbox 360 and the PS3, yet it wasn't nearly as good, that's because they went for the casual and younger gamer, and their needs are very likely both met and exceeded by the Tegra 3.
And yeah, 5th core could power background tasks like say a chat network similar to what Xbox live has.
You do realise that you don't buy things on Kickstarter right, you fund projects, and your money wouldn't have been taken from your bank account until the 9th of August.
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Err yeah duhhhh.
I pay $99 I get console that's all I care about I'm not in it for charity
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colemanuk said:
Err yeah duhhhh.
I pay $99 I get console that's all I care about I'm not in it for charity
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i would take the N7 instead with a blind eye but google shot it in the legs by removing MHL support
its just hit me! this thing will fly!
OnLive and this are a match made in heaven, but I think they need an Ethernet port
the more I think of it the more I feel tegra3 is just ingenious, yes the sgs3 processor is stronger and the snapdragon 4 is more efficient
but we r missing the point, t3 is ingenious because of its older process and low cost nature, as well as prism, direct touch, lp core and amazing media abilities
add to this a ready gaming centric SDK and u can see why they r selling them like hot cakes
as a whole t3 is the best solution out there, its unique, capable and well supported
I dont think qualcomm has a chance of catching up this round
when NV ceo answered we will release quad first and then devs will figure out how to u use it, he was spot on!
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its just hit me! this thing will fly! - ENGAGE BRAIN LESS BULL**** MODE SON!
OnLive and this are a match made in heaven, but I think they need an Ethernet port - YEA BUT ON LIVE IS **** I BETA TESTED IT
the more I think of it the more I feel tegra3 is just ingenious, yes the sgs3 processor is stronger and the snapdragon 4 is more efficient - MY GTX570 is more efficient!!!
but we r missing the point, t3 is ingenious because of its older process and low cost nature, as well as prism, direct touch, lp core and amazing media abilities - MY PC CAN PLAY ANYTHING
add to this a ready gaming centric SDK and u can see why they r selling them like hot cakes - I DONT NEED AND SKD TO DEVELOP FOR PC!
as a whole t3 is the best solution out there, its unique, capable and well supported - ITS NOT USE YOUR BRAIN
I dont think qualcomm has a chance of catching up this round - THEY DONT NEED TO
when NV ceo answered we will release quad first and then devs will figure out how to u use it, he was spot on!
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Dont be fukin stupid. Why would anyone buy a device which can do less than my PC, and less than my phone....

Asphalt 7 released

Finaly the guys at gameloft released the Asphalt 7,i've allready bought it (1 Dollar),but i don't know why the tilting doesn't work,i mean,i tilt my phone but the car doesn't steer,the only way i can play is with the buttons on the touchscreen.Any ideea?Anybody had this problem?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gameloft.android.ANMP.GloftA7HM
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which part is warez? stop getting trigger happy, op asked a legitimate question. op does the tilt work in other games? if yes might be an early bug. I read reviews and they not good tho.
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Yeah accelerometer control is terrible. Graphics is good though.
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Diamondback said:
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And,can you tell me what part of this is considered warez?This is a Google Play Store link that i've provided and specificaly sayd that i've bought the game,read before you write.
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which part is warez? stop getting trigger happy, op asked a legitimate question. op does the tilt work in other games? if yes might be an early bug. I read reviews and they not good tho.
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Yeah,the tilting works on other games,i think it's a bug,hoping that the guys at gameloft will repair this,maybe get out a patch soon.In the meanwhille,i've allready finished 6 championships and the game is great,the graphics are good,the thing that bugs me about the game are the "post score" or different commercials that are always shown,but overall it's a great game .
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Downloading.. 1.3 gB. It must be a good game.
P.s. Can I play it with a bt keyboard?
Don't know honestly,but i don't see why it would't work.
1.3gb data??damn could it better to have external sd support for this phone
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I agree, thats a bit out of order jumping in like that. And a Mod!
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1.3gb data??damn could it better to have external sd support for this phone
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Yeah,if you download 10 games like this one you can kiss bye bye you'r whole storage,didn't understand why HTC didn't offer a microSD support except the internal support.
Reached championship 8
jeyml said:
Yeah,if you download 10 games like this one you can kiss bye bye you'r whole storage,didn't understand why HTC didn't offer a microSD support except the internal support.
Reached championship 8
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The framerate makes it unplayable for me at stock, it's just too much of a distraction.
I'm waiting on a gameloft update. (sigh)
However, with faux and game booster app it plays pretty good with a decent framerate , but still annoys me that it's still not the framerate it should be & not what iOS users get.
Stock users - I'd say not to bother yet, as the framerate is choppy hell.
Aagghhh
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For me tilting works in driving. But I don't like the way, difficult to play.
Actually the game looks far better on my new ipad (graphics)
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The framerate makes it unplayable for me at stock, it's just too much of a distraction.
I'm waiting on a gameloft update. (sigh)
However, with faux and game booster app it plays pretty good with a decent framerate , but still annoys me that it's still not the framerate it should be & not what iOS users get.
Stock users - I'd say not to bother yet, as the framerate is choppy hell.
Aagghhh
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I am running stock 1.29 and i don't have any problem like that,try to close some apps from task manager,i always do before i start the game.
Yeah,i don't know why but on my Ipad 3 (or new ipad,however you want to call it) seems a little bit more better the graphics,or maybe it's just me.
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I notice he's not apologised either.
The word you're looking for mate, is 'sorry'.
Such a lack of basic manners in the youth of today. I blame computer games
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I notice he's not apologised either.
The word you're looking for mate, is 'sorry'.
Such a lack of basic manners in the youth of today. I blame computer games
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At least he sayd "Please" )
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jeyml said:
I am running stock 1.29 and i don't have any problem like that,try to close some apps from task manager,i always do before i start the game.
Yeah,i don't know why but on my Ipad 3 (or new ipad,however you want to call it) seems a little bit more better the graphics,or maybe it's just me.
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Sorry, (in the nicest way possible) .... you must be blind if you think the framerate is ok .
Go have a look at the trailer on the play store, that's how it's supposed to run.
Everyone I've spoken to has mentioned the very poor framerate, even android police the other day mentioned it to be 'definitely choppy' in the pre-review.
It's not Tegra 3 compatible, not really.
It runs at terrible framerates on both my Nexus 7 & HOX.
It may work, but we have to wait on Gameloft for the fix.
This game doesn't even run completely smooth at all on base 2.05, faux kernel and game booster app - stock 1.29 has no chance.
......
Unless your using a U.S snapdragon S4 version, not sure how it runs on that HOX.
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Sorry, (in the nicest way possible) .... you must be blind if you think the framerate is ok .
Go have a look at the trailer on the play store, that's how it's supposed to run.
Everyone I've spoken to has mentioned the very poor framerate, even android police the other day mentioned it to be 'definitely choppy' in the pre-review.
It's not Tegra 3 compatible, not really.
It runs at terrible framerates on both my Nexus 7 & HOX.
It may work, but we have to wait on Gameloft for the fix.
This game doesn't even run completely smooth at all on base 2.05, faux kernel and game booster app - stock 1.29 has no chance.
......
Unless your using a U.S snapdragon S4 version, not sure how it runs on that HOX.
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Probably man,i don't realy know what to say,i will compare it tomorow with my Ipad to see how it runs,but for me it's ok,i mean,i've noticed that all consumers lately want everything to be perfect,not realising that we are running on our phones games that are larger than NFS:Underground or NFS:Underground 2 which we played a few years back on the PC or PS and we were totaly satisfied about them,even if they weren't perfect.Probably that it isn't optimized for the Tegra 3,lately Gameloft didn't perfect theyr games and haven't worked as much as they did in the past on the games.But,in theyr defence,we did pay 1$ for it,i mean,lets be serious,we can't expect great things for a buck man.
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Probably man,i don't realy know what to say,i will compare it tomorow with my Ipad to see how it runs,but for me it's ok,i mean,i've noticed that all consumers lately want everything to be perfect,not realising that we are running on our phones games that are larger than NFS:Underground or NFS:Underground 2 which we played a few years back on the PC or PS and we were totaly satisfied about them,even if they weren't perfect.Probably that it isn't optimized for the Tegra 3,lately Gameloft didn't perfect theyr games and haven't worked as much as they did in the past on the games.But,in theyr defence,we did pay 1$ for it,i mean,lets be serious,we can't expect great things for a buck man.
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Lol, that may be true for NFS, but the size of gameloft games are wayyyyy too big in size.
To think Torchlight is under 600mb for the PC, makes you wonder how a racing game for a phone could be 1.3gb. - ouch.
i don't think the price of an app is an excuse for poor coding - the game shouldn't have been released yet, not in its current state.
I've heard the SGS3 also has framerate issues with this game (just not and severe as most of GL games for Tegra3 devices) and that's operating on a year old GPU, so it shouldn't have optimisation issues - but even here, it does.
But, HOPEFULLY - they will release a fix soon, and not wait a month like they did for batman on Tegra 3.
Sadly, gameloft ain't like madfinger who will respond to you quickly and issue a fix quickly if it's their problem.
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Lol, that may be true for NFS, but the size of gameloft games are wayyyyy too big in size.
To think Torchlight is under 600mb for the PC, makes you wonder how a racing game for a phone could be 1.3gb. - ouch.
i don't think the price of an app is an excuse for poor coding - the game shouldn't have been released yet, not in its current state.
I've heard the SGS3 also has framerate issues with this game (just not and severe as most of GL games for Tegra3 devices) and that's operating on a year old GPU, so it shouldn't have optimisation issues - but even here, it does.
But, HOPEFULLY - they will release a fix soon, and not wait a month like they did for batman on Tegra 3.
Sadly, gameloft ain't like madfinger who will respond to you quickly and issue a fix quickly if it's their problem.
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Yeah,unfortunaly i've sent an email to them regarding the accelerometer problems,sayd they will investigate the problem,but so far,nothing...i am not an expert programmer,i understand some codes,but i mean,how hard can an accelerometer problem be to solve it?
Luckly that i've got used with the touchscreen "virtual buttons",otherwise i wouldn't played this game.
As for the size of them,i maybe saying something stupid....but...aren't the guys at gameloft using Unity to make the graphics like the guys who made Dead Trigger?I tried like 1 or 2 years ago Unity and the graphics made with that program always use to much space.
Reached championship 9 so far .
Yeah, I think android police agreed with most of us.
Hopefully, gameloft will take note with some bad publicity & make a quick fix.
It definitely seems to be affecting all android devices.
Gameloft should definitely come with a disclaimer warning that it is optimized for iOS only.
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Graphics And Performance
Even with the above foibles, Asphalt 7 could be a good game. The deal breaker for me is the overwhelming mediocrity of the graphics. Judging from the screenshots on the Play Store page, this should be a gorgeous game. Instead, it's just average. Even then, only on some devices. On the Nexus 7 the texture resolution is absolutely terrible. Everything in the environment looks muddy. The cars aren't bad, but there is noticeable aliasing along the edges.
I also looked at things on the Galaxy Nexus, and the textures were a little better. I was still not impressed with the overall fuzziness of the roads and buildings, though. The jaggies are not as prevalent here, possibly because the screen is smaller, and I can't see them as well. For whatever reason, performance is questionable on both devices. Both will get a spot of lag from time to time, and the Nexus 7 seems to have a lower frame rate The brightness also looks too high, making the game oddly washed-out. There are a few places that I could barely see where I was going because the gentle blue track markers blended in too well with the background. Turning my device's brightness down did nothing to fix this. I could also see distant objects drawing as I rocketed along. That should not happen on any modern device.
For 1.4GB of game data, I expected stunning graphics. I really feel like some of the smaller Need For Speed games look better than this. Asphalt 7 is not ugly, but it's just not pretty like the screenshots would lead you to believe.
Conclusion
On the surface, Asphalt 7 is a fine game. The controls are solid, and there are plenty of tracks and race types. I can even deal with the in-app purchases because they don't seem exploitative. This is essentially a $7 game that you can have for $0.99, so dropping a few dollars on better cars seems alright. The learning curve is steep, but not to a fault However, the requirement that you have internet access is beyond ridiculous. Things fall apart for me when it comes to visuals and performance. I'm just disappointed in how this game runs on the Nexus 7, and it's not terribly good on the Galaxy Nexus. Lag, low frame rates, and blurry graphics are not what I expect out of 1.4GB of game data. If this game was free, I'd definitely suggest you pick it up to try. As it stands, you could spend $0.99 if you like Asphalt racing games, but there's just nothing that special here.
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Samsung 8-core big.LITTLE chip. Opinions!

Samsung 8-core big.LITTLE chip early next year, will we see it in the future Galaxy Note 3 or Galaxy S4?
http://www.androidauthority.com/sam...-early-next-year-future-galaxy-note-3-133020/
IMHO this octacore will be kind of useless unless all Apps and Heavy Games get optimized for it say in next 3-5yrs. :screwy:
Want to read your opinions.
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Samsung 8-core big.LITTLE chip early next year, will we see it in the future Galaxy Note 3 or Galaxy S4?
http://www.androidauthority.com/sam...-early-next-year-future-galaxy-note-3-133020/
IMHO this octacore will be kind of useless unless all Apps and Heavy Games get optimized for it say in next 3-5yrs. :screwy:
Want to read your opinions.
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I don't think you understand the concept of cores. There will never be a need for 8 cores unless you are 3D designing.
I think it would be overkill for current technology. Might be great for tablets, holographic display, flexible screen or other future tech we don't know about. Other than that, I really can't see doing major gaming on my phone. I would rather do that on my gaming system.
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I think it would be overkill for current technology. Might be great for tablets, holographic display, flexible screen or other future tech we don't know about. Other than that, I really can't see doing major gaming on my phone. I would rather do that on my gaming system.
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Well since Samsung already has a prototype of a flex screen device with built in projector that rolls up into a fat pen, that's probably what they are aiming this chipset at
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Bring it on and double the screen resolution. I don't see anything wrong with more cores as long as its still energy efficient
We may not need computers anymore or many other devices could be cheaper . we could just have two phones one as a backup . and water cooled docks everywhere. We just dock the phone and it over clocks to 3ghz and runs everything . the house the car the TV .cheep empty shell super 4k cameras that just need your phone to work .
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I don't think you understand the concept of cores. There will never be a need for 8 cores unless you are 3D designing.
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Did you happen to read after IMHO? Of course I understand the concept of cores. lol
and thanks for your opinion.
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Well since Samsung already has a prototype of a flex screen device with built in projector that rolls up into a fat pen, that's probably what they are aiming this chipset at
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Exactly...
I posted a that concept awhile back. Here it is again if anyones wondering.
http://www.concept-phones.com/samsung/samsung-flexible-display-phone-pulled-pen/
I think 8 cores would be great for tablets or those android smart tv boxes...
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Exactly...
I posted a that concept awhile back. Here it is again if anyones wondering.
http://www.concept-phones.com/samsung/samsung-flexible-display-phone-pulled-pen/
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There's actually a real working prototype of it now along with samsungs holographic displays that use a projector and a fine aerosol or finely woven mesh to produce a 3d image in the projection field
Edit: in case anyone is wondering, Samsung has already patented or bought up existing patents on transparent flexible displays as well as the holographic projection technology
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There's actually a real working prototype of it now along with samsungs holographic displays that use a projector and a fine aerosol or finely woven mesh to produce a 3d image in the projection field
Edit: in case anyone is wondering, Samsung has already patented or bought up existing patents on transparent flexible displays as well as the holographic projection technology
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Now that you mention holographic projection that is use here in Puerto Rico in special events like past election day. That was freaking awesome I was astonished.
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it's not an 8 core, its two of their quad cores put together.
Way different than an 8 core
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Now that you mention holographic projection that is use here in Puerto Rico in special events like past election day. That was freaking awesome I was astonished.
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Yeah the general technology has been around in one form or another since the mid/late 1800s Samsung has devised a new method in a compact HD form that they want to use for TV, PC and mobile device displays as a kind of real 3d where you actually see depth and all sides of the image. The only problem is its currently super expensive and not viable as a general consumer option yet it's more for the corporate, .gov, uber rich at the moment
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There's actually a real working prototype of it now along with samsungs holographic displays that use a projector and a fine aerosol or finely woven mesh to produce a 3d image in the projection field
Edit: in case anyone is wondering, Samsung has already patented or bought up existing patents on transparent flexible displays as well as the holographic projection technology
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They are actually working out the last kinks in one of the colors in production from what I last read in the news about a month or so ago. Once they fix that problem, they will begin mass production - maybe LOL.
Going off of memory. I googled "samsung flexible screens production" and found this right off the bat:
http://www.techradar.com/news/world...-up-flexible-amoled-screen-production-1112640
I would much rather have holographic imaging instead of a flexable screen. Boy, that would be so Johnny Mnemonic. That would also classify under "Excellent" Whoa Dude.
Yeah I'm pretty sure this is more of a way to balance power and efficiency. The name even gives it away. From what I know it uses the "little" portion of the chipset for tasks that don't require horsepower so as to prolong battery life, and the 4 core "big" handles the tough graphics and video.
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I can't wait till Intel gets into the mobile game. These quad core arm processors are considered weak for computers and there's much improvement needed than most think
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Buy this, or wait for Tegra 4 Tablet?

Hello,
I was going to buy this tablet soon but I just found out about the Tegra 4 CPU.
It is supposed to have better performance than SnapDragon S4 CPU which the Nexus 7 flo tablet has.
Do you think I should wait until a 7 inch Tegra 4 Tablet comes onto the market or should I buy the Nexus 7 now?
Thanks,
The Doolster
Kindle Fire HD 2 will supposedly have the Snapdragon 800. The Nexus will have more development support including kernels to overclock the CPU to 2GHz+.
Do whatever will make you happy. If you're the patient type then just wait.
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Kindle Fire HD 2 will supposedly have the Snapdragon 800. The Nexus will have more development support including kernels to overclock the CPU to 2GHz+.
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Why the heck would a kindle need a sd800?
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Why the heck would a kindle need a sd800?
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Gotta be able to flip those pages faster than you can blink, yo.
Tegra 4 and SD 800 are just days to a few months away. They have the potential to be awesome.
That said this S4 is more of a SD 600 than a S4 and as you can see from the Dev section, can be clocked to 2.1 or possibly even 2.3 GHz. The GPU can also be OCed to 487. This machine will give all a user needs if they like the 7 inch form factor at a very reasonable price.
Also while the SD 800 is awesome to unlock it past the potential already achieved by the Devs on this one will take a good Dev on that device. So
Honestly as a user, if you like a 7 inch tablet this is the one for this year IMHO. But if your a tech geek like me well... I like to buy them all lol.
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Why the heck would a kindle need a sd800?
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I am just reading that and baffled myself Lmao.
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conan1600 said:
Tegra 4 and SD 800 are just days to a few months away. They have the potential to be awesome.
That said this S4 is more of a SD 600 than a S4 and as you can see from the Dev section, can be clocked to 2.1 or possibly even 2.3 GHz. The GPU can also be OCed to 487. This machine will give all a user needs if they like the 7 inch form factor at a very reasonable price.
Also while the SD 800 is awesome to unlock it past the potential already achieved by the Devs on this one will take a good Dev on that device. So
Honestly as a user, if you like a 7 inch tablet this is the one for this year IMHO. But if your a tech geek like me well... I like to buy them all lol.
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I'm thinking that I should just get this tab and be happy with it for a year or more. I mean the most intensive game I play is Riptide GP2, and my Nexus 4 runs that fine on stock with high settings. I will also be doing some emulation on it, but if my Nexus 4 can run it, the Nexus 7 will be able to even better
2.3 GHz is insane for a mobile device that is $230. But since money is pretty tight for me maybe a $230 tablet is probably all I will be able to afford. And about the Kindle Fire, those have always been bad for development and I like to have root and custom roms, and stuff.
So I think this will be the tablet that I'm going to get.
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I am just reading that and baffled myself Lmao.
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Kindle community's for me is meh. But if nook follows in the steps of kindle well then that could be an inexpensive toy with some real nice specs after root and rom.
Never trust nVidia's promises or even their benchmarks. Their chips ALWAYS look killer on paper, but they are almost always very buggy and don't work the way nVidia claims they should. Check out every Tegra device made, short of the Nexus 7. Updates very rarely came, and when they did they were buggy and crappy. Even the Nexus 7 on 4.2 was a step backwards in terms of battery, speed, usability, etc. I won't touch another Tegra device until they prove otherwise.
The SnapDragon 800, on the other hand, while yes, it will be faster than the new N7, I don't believe will make its way into many 7" devices. Its just not necessary. The CPU isn't much faster than the current 600. Its main claim to fame will be its GPU. And 10"+ tablets and devices will begin having 4K resolution screens shortly, IMHO, where that will be needed. SnapDragon 800 in a ChromeBook would be fantastic as well.
Hello,
the Tegra 4 SoC do not support OpenGL ES 3.0 fully.
If you want to enjoy AAA games or apps in the near future you might not be able to do so.
Also most of the recent Tegra SoC had bad sound quality through headphones and tend to overheat.
Best regards,
pootney
You will not need anything more powerful then this device for a long while. This CPU/GPU are overkill as it is for any Android game made today.
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Richieboy67 said:
You will not need anything more powerful then this device for a long while. This CPU/GPU are overkill as it is for any Android have made today.
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However, we don't know what KeyLimePie will bring this fall. What is overkill now may be barely cutting it on a new OS.
i use to be all about tegra myself but tegra is not all that good. battery life is horrible and there are heat issues, the htc one x i had got pretty freaking hot. i wanted a tegra 4 tablet like the new toshiba excite but for $480<==F that. i already spent $400 for preordering my ps4 so im not gonna spend that kind of money on a tablet. Nexus 7 is perfect and lightweight. its $270 i can run android games and emulators. with a rooted nexus 7 you can bluetooth a ps3 controller to it for those games and emulators. plus it runs the default android OS which is the best OS out there. The nexus 7 will have a lot more support from devs for kernels, roms, mods, etc...... Seriously buy a nexus 7 and with the money, give it a nice case. kernels for this device can OC the cpu/gpu as well.
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Doubtful..
Do you think they would release something that would render 95% of devices to be barely able to even run it including their very own devices?
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Doubtful..
Do you think they would release something that would render 95% of devices to be barely able to even run it including their very own devices?
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No, I don't THINK that will happen, but let's be honest. 95% of devices won't get KLP anyways. I'm not saying it wont run it, just that the overkill may not be overkill in 5 months. History says otherwise, but look at apple updates. Sometimes the new releases run like crap on older devices.
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Never trust nVidia's promises or even their benchmarks. Their chips ALWAYS look killer on paper, but they are almost always very buggy and don't work the way nVidia claims they should. Check out every Tegra device made, short of the Nexus 7. Updates very rarely came, and when they did they were buggy and crappy. Even the Nexus 7 on 4.2 was a step backwards in terms of battery, speed, usability, etc. I won't touch another Tegra device until they prove otherwise.
The SnapDragon 800, on the other hand, while yes, it will be faster than the new N7, I don't believe will make its way into many 7" devices. Its just not necessary. The CPU isn't much faster than the current 600. Its main claim to fame will be its GPU. And 10"+ tablets and devices will begin having 4K resolution screens shortly, IMHO, where that will be needed. SnapDragon 800 in a ChromeBook would be fantastic as well.
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WOW!!!! Apparently you've never heard of or seen the Asus Infinity (10.1" with Tegra 3)!!!! I don't know what you mean about "updates very rarely came". Asus was amongst the first, if not the first, to release 4.2 on the Infinity!! Buggy? Not at alll!!! Games look and play amazing on it!! Has a mini HDMI port on the side of the tablet for connecting it up to a TV. I've played many games for many hours with my Infinity connected to my TV, and using a PS3 controller and the Sixaxis app. Never an issue or hiccup of any kind what so ever!! It also has the best looking display on ANY device in my opinion!
Before dogging all Tegra devices, you REALLY need some hands on experience with them!!!
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stanglifemike said:
WOW!!!! Apparently you've never heard of or seen the Asus Infinity (10.1" with Tegra 3)!!!! I don't know what you mean about "updates very rarely came". Asus was amongst the first, if not the first, to release 4.2 on the Infinity!! Buggy? Not at alll!!! Games look and play amazing on it!! Has a mini HDMI port on the side of the tablet for connecting it up to a TV. I've played many games for many hours with my Infinity connected to my TV, and using a PS3 controller and the Sixaxis app. Never an issue or hiccup of any kind what so ever!! It also has the best looking display on ANY device in my opinion!
Before dogging all Tegra devices, you REALLY need some hands on experience with them!!!
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I assure you, I have PLENTY of Tegra device experience. Moto Xoom, LG G2x, Nexus 7, Droid X2, HTC One X+, development in general for all devices. Believe me when I say, nVidia says things work one way, and more often than not, they don't. They require a LOT of extra development workarounds and time to optimize and get them to behave acceptably. I have a feeling that Asus benefited from the Google relationship with the Nexus 7 being a Tegra 3 and applied that knowledge to the rest of their devices. If Asus was willing to spend the time and engineering brains to figure out all those work arounds, kudos to them. Most other manufacturers were not. Even things that are EASY to develop for barely get Android updates, and if theres any sign of it not working right, they just throw in the towel.
The original Nexus 7 worked well, and I'm not saying your Asus tablet doesn't, but the vast majority of nVidia powered devices are not good in the long run.
Check out this article about the history of the way nVidia has dealt with the Tegra chips.
http://semiaccurate.com/2013/02/18/nvidias-telegraphs-tegras-woes-at-ces/
Also, sweet Mustang. I happen to drive a 64 Mercury Comet wagon with a 427FE that runs high 8's. Its a Dyno Don car. I dont own it, just drive it, but its a blast.
stanglifemike said:
WOW!!!! Apparently you've never heard of or seen the Asus Infinity (10.1" with Tegra 3)!!!! I don't know what you mean about "updates very rarely came". Asus was amongst the first, if not the first, to release 4.2 on the Infinity!! Buggy? Not at alll!!! Games look and play amazing on it!! Has a mini HDMI port on the side of the tablet for connecting it up to a TV. I've played many games for many hours with my Infinity connected to my TV, and using a PS3 controller and the Sixaxis app. Never an issue or hiccup of any kind what so ever!! It also has the best looking display on ANY device in my opinion!
Before dogging all Tegra devices, you REALLY need some hands on experience with them!!!
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Tegra Devices in general are just bleh. Video play back always seems lacking. /shrug
Asus will only update their devices once. maybe twice. That isn't support. They only do that as they have a "Life cycle" of their devices. Once reached. Its end of line.
Best display? Lol you lost me there.
The Tegra 4's CPU is equal or better than the SD 800. The Tegra 4's GPU is also equal or better than the Adreno 330.
For those saying that the battery life is horrible - what are you smoking? One of the things the Tegra 3 was lauded for was battery life. Anandtech recorded 18 HOURS of video playback with the Tegra 4 - not even the iPad could touch that.
IMO, the Tegra 4 is a premium SoC. If you really want the latest and greatest, wait for the Tegra 4. Otherwise, the N7v2 will do just fine.
Don't kid yourselves into thinking the Tegra 4 is horrible though...

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