FL04 jellybean and Samsung allshare media hub at sprint - Samsung Epic 4G Touch

I went yo the sprint store to pay my bill and saw this on the way out. It apparently, to the uninitiated, acts like a router but only connects with allshare and HDMI to the TV. A salesman and myself tried playing with it. I'm on calkulin el29 2.8.1. and couldn't connect to the in store model. Upon further investigation, it only works with the note 1&2 and the s3. I couldn't figure out why or what's the difference that those devices have that mine doesn't. Could it be jellybean? I installed fl04 but couldn't make it back to test it out. I'm assuming it's a jb thing. So the other hardware has nfc, big f'in deal. You have to be extremely close for that to work. It can't be that it's on the n band of wifi, can it? Afaik, this phone can go dual band. Does anyone have an explanation or work around for this? I've got a roku and wdtv and Panasonic bluray and my gf has a Sony br. Very few file types actually play on these dlna devices from the phone. I've tried allshare and imediashare and a few others but if one won't play them then none of them will work. I thought there might be such a thing as a device like this one that its only function is being a dlna receiver, but I can't find anything other than this. Apparently HTC makes something similar but it only works on their phones. What the heck?

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I went yo the sprint store to pay my bill and saw this on the way out. It apparently, to the uninitiated, acts like a router but only connects with allshare and HDMI to the TV. A salesman and myself tried playing with it. I'm on calkulin el29 2.8.1. and couldn't connect to the in store model. Upon further investigation, it only works with the note 1&2 and the s3. I couldn't figure out why or what's the difference that those devices have that mine doesn't. Could it be jellybean? I installed fl04 but couldn't make it back to test it out. I'm assuming it's a jb thing. So the other hardware has nfc, big f'in deal. You have to be extremely close for that to work. It can't be that it's on the n band of wifi, can it? Afaik, this phone can go dual band. Does anyone have an explanation or work around for this? I've got a roku and wdtv and Panasonic bluray and my gf has a Sony br. Very few file types actually play on these dlna devices from the phone. I've tried allshare and imediashare and a few others but if one won't play them then none of them will work. I thought there might be such a thing as a device like this one that its only function is being a dlna receiver, but I can't find anything other than this. Apparently HTC makes something similar but it only works on their phones. What the heck?
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The media server and display device need to be connected to the same network.
In your example, your phone needs to be connected to the same wireless network as the shop's TV.

Allshare is just Samsung's name for DLNA media sharing. Fun to play with in the home.

FL04
Just fyi, since the update to JB, Samsung has added in some media component to the movie player so you can stream to a samsung smart tv. This feature wasnt available in GB or ICS

You can do this with photos in the gallery app as well...

ryandoubleu said:
Just fyi, since the update to JB, Samsung has added in some media component to the movie player so you can stream to a samsung smart tv. This feature wasnt available in GB or ICS
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Okay. Then maybe I should flash back to fl04 and see if it connects. I should download the user manual for it and see if you have to connect the hub to your network or the phone connects directly to the hub. I don't have any other dlna devices besides the phone that could feed the hub. The sales people said that it will only work with Samsung phones and allshare. That's too bad that it isn't your standard dlna hub, but it looks like its software between the phone and hub are made to be proprietary. I hate crap like that. Plus, their asking price of $100 is too much IMO. I'd pay $50 at the most for it. That was the general consensus with reviews of it. It works with only a limited amount of new phones and it's too expensive for what it is.

Dlna, across the board, has one requirement; same network as stated above. Have the shop attach your device to their network and it'll work. It's not proximity like nfc.
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hmm
if you have a wirless router in your house, you do not need the allshare media hub as long as you have a samsung smart tv (not sure about other smart tv manufacturers)

When I ran the all share app it browsed my PC then streamed a video from the PC to the phone, then my Sony TV switched inputs by its self and started playing the movie on the tv without wires

You dont even need a smart TV, I play music, videos, slideshows, etc... through my xbox all I do is choose the switch player option :thumbup:
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AllShare Cast Dongle Alternatives?

What are some alternatives to the AllShare Cast Dongle? It's not even available yet. How else can I hook up my phone via wireless to a tv set?
Mhl with a wireless hdmi transmitter receiver setup
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enz660 said:
What are some alternatives to the AllShare Cast Dongle? It's not even available yet. How else can I hook up my phone via wireless to a tv set?
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I am also really interested in this. Would love all the info anyone can give
boarder.2k9 said:
I am also really interested in this. Would love all the info anyone can give
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is there a way to connect to a tv not wirelessly? like using usb?
Nexus Q and HTC Media link should work. I am not sure if they are exact mirrors like the dongle but it should be.
Nexus Q can't do screen mirroring. The HTC Medialink isn't compatible with the Galaxy S3 due to proprietary software.
You're stuck with the $99 allshare cast dongle. I'd wait though since a lot of screen mirroring solutions are going to be made available and most likely cheap by the end of 2012. The WiFi Alliance is working on something called Miracast which is essentially android screen mirroring.
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Nexus Q can't do screen mirroring. The HTC Medialink isn't compatible with the Galaxy S3 due to proprietary software.
You're stuck with the $99 allshare cast dongle. I'd wait though since a lot of screen mirroring solutions are going to be made available and most likely cheap by the end of 2012. The WiFi Alliance is working on something called Miracast which is essentially android screen mirroring.
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Apparently someone said the HTC media link works with the GS3. There was a thread on it.
You could buy a Samsung DVD or bluray player that has the allshare capability.
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mikec86 said:
You could buy a Samsung DVD or bluray player that has the allshare capability.
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..different things, all share DLNA ( share movies from PC, phone to TV ) is different to All share cast ( where the phone is replicated on TV )
Need this!
So Im a school teacher and bought a GSIII for this accessory. Why isnt it available and does anyone know when it will be available? Im trying to do research now to see if I can get the HTC one to work with my GSIII, also I have a Nexus7 I would like to figure out how to make that work as well.
due to the overpricing of this thing (it'll be about 110 USD in sweden) I decided to pre-order an Ouya instead as it basically gives me the features I wanted an allshare dongle for but at the same price. But for those $100 I get a standalone tegra 3 device instead, basically a htc one x without a screen. It wont be out until march but the money value here is worth the wait.
Hello, anyone know if it´s possible to emulate the allshare cast dongle with a PC ??
i mean, that piece of hardware must use some software that can be inatalles as a program in a notebook and then the notebook connected to the TV.
Could this be done?
PD: chrome cast doesn´t mirror the games for example and samsung dongle yes
chromecast alternatives and other ways to mirror your phone... [via and xbox]
With all the new apps and wireless technologies out there now, is there a way to get the same cast functionality going through an XBOX connected TV with your phone?
I have a Samsung Note 3 and XBOX 360 and want to mirror my phones screen and control some apps like you can with the Chromecast, mainly a web browser on the XBOX.
Thank you for any help!!
z13urge said:
With all the new apps and wireless technologies out there now, is there a way to get the same cast functionality going through an XBOX connected TV with your phone?
I have a Samsung Note 3 and XBOX 360 and want to mirror my phones screen and control some apps like you can with the Chromecast, mainly a web browser on the XBOX.
Thank you for any help!!
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I installed Mirror OP sender and Mirror Op receiver on my notebook and cell phone and then connected the notebook with HDMI to my TV. I have mirror now, but it has too much lag.
If someone make some retroengineering on an all share cast dongle i think we can emulate it, the notebook or pc connected to the tv has to have enough power to copy the software functions of that dongle!! . Soemone must know more about this.
CLaudioman2009 said:
I installed Mirror OP sender and Mirror Op receiver on my notebook and cell phone and then connected the notebook with HDMI to my TV. I have mirror now, but it has too much lag.
If someone make some retroengineering on an all share cast dongle i think we can emulate it, the notebook or pc connected to the tv has to have enough power to copy the software functions of that dongle!! . Soemone must know more about this.
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I would be surprised if not nearly any laptop out there got more power than the small dongle device?
In addition I think the lag (most recognizable in games) might come from the wireless transmission maybe?
CLaudioman2009 said:
I installed Mirror OP sender and Mirror Op receiver on my notebook and cell phone and then connected the notebook with HDMI to my TV. I have mirror now, but it has too much lag.
If someone make some retroengineering on an all share cast dongle i think we can emulate it, the notebook or pc connected to the tv has to have enough power to copy the software functions of that dongle!! . Soemone must know more about this.
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I connected my S3 to our TV and it had a bit of a lag as well. I've only used this to view videos and pics but they don't take up the whole TV screen, kinda defeating the purpose or am I missing something?
Geekboy26 said:
I connected my S3 to our TV and it had a bit of a lag as well. I've only used this to view videos and pics but they don't take up the whole TV screen, kinda defeating the purpose or am I missing something?
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I asked the Samsung chat support for this youtube video : watch?v=FX3y7O_TOew
they told me that feature was only available for rooted concept devices, so... we can see that they do the same as Chrome Cast dongle but without buying any dongle. ...
this so called "WEB PAGE SHARE" function doesnt appear on new note 2, s4, s3 or note 3, maybe someone can make a rom or something to make this work ??? its also showed in this video:
youtube watch?v=dk5stWQQDu4
hmmmm
What is difference between the "AllShare Cast Dongle" and EZCast?
Anyone tried them both?
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[Q] send video to tv

Hi all.
I don't know why this seems to be such a difficult thing to do but I can't seem to get a straight answer.
I have a Galaxy Note 2, my wife has a Sensation XE and we both will soon have Nexus 7 and/or Nexus 10 - possibly. What I want to achieve is a way to send video content including things like netflix from our devices to our TV wirelessly.
I don't want to have seperate receivers etc for each device but I am happy for a software solution if a hardware one is not available.
Thanks
im not sure about netflix and stuff because i don't use it, but when you have any videos theres a button on the top with like a small tv and 3 lines or so all together like a little symbol, your tv provided its a samsung, should be connected on the same wifi as your phone and all you have to do is clack that button and it should work.
As for youtube which is what i sometimes use, i just pair it with the TV and it connects straight away.. really simple
This looks similar to what your after .
http://gigaom.com/mobile/how-to-wirelessly-stream-android-media-to-an-hdtv-doubletwist-airsync/
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If your tv is not dlna compliant
Yiu had to buy samsung dongle wbich connect to uiur tv and yiu can stream to your tv over wifi
I th8nk its called allshare cast
I use a free app skifta to stream my nas contents to my tv or my phone
Use it via my wd livetv smp to play contents to my tv from my note 2
LLanito said:
im not sure about netflix and stuff because i don't use it, but when you have any videos theres a button on the top with like a small tv and 3 lines or so all together like a little symbol, your tv provided its a samsung, should be connected on the same wifi as your phone and all you have to do is clack that button and it should work.
As for youtube which is what i sometimes use, i just pair it with the TV and it connects straight away.. really simple
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I've tried that with an app called 'Skifta' to a laptop running xbmc (for testing purposes) but it only supports local content and a select few stations/channels of which netflix isn't one. My TV is a 6 year old Bush LCD IDTV so no DLNA
b4d5h0t said:
This looks similar to what your after .
http://gigaom.com/mobile/how-to-wirelessly-stream-android-media-to-an-hdtv-doubletwist-airsync/
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Looks good except I don't have xbox 360 or PS3
boxer29 said:
If your tv is not dlna compliant
Yiu had to buy samsung dongle wbich connect to uiur tv and yiu can stream to your tv over wifi
I th8nk its called allshare cast
I use a free app skifta to stream my nas contents to my tv or my phone
Use it via my wd livetv smp to play contents to my tv from my note 2
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Does allshare cast work on non-samsung devices? I'll look at WD LiveTV
kinsago said:
I've tried that with an app called 'Skifta' to a laptop running xbmc (for testing purposes) but it only supports local content and a select few stations/channels of which netflix isn't one. My TV is a 6 year old Bush LCD IDTV so no DLNA
Looks good except I don't have xbox 360 or PS3
Does allshare cast work on non-samsung devices? I'll look at WD LiveTV
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yes allshare cast works on older tv which are not smart tv.
if your samsung tv is new it would be dlna or smart tv so you wont need that allshare cast
boxer29 said:
yes allshare cast works on older tv which are not smart tv.
if your samsung tv is new it would be dlna or smart tv so you wont need that allshare cast
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Sorry, what I meant was, does allshare cast work with non-samsung phones/tablets (see OP).
I don't have a samsung TV nor can I afford one.
Well, it's a hardware solution, and right now is a lil bit on the pricey side. Gigabyte skyvision ws100.
The advantage, you can use it with whatever devices with hdmi i/o capability. It seems it pretty much works flawlessly and without lag, if I had came across it couple of months before I might have bought one instead a 30m+ HDMI cable than runs from my PC to the TV in the living room. If I had, now I could easily switch between PC (gaming), laptop (movie watching), and now phones (occasional viewing of photos and stuff). And, I could use it to stream av to the projector in our bedroom.... might still consider this Christmas.
Best regards.
The device is called Allshare cast dongle. It works with any TV with HDMI port. Plugs in to the hdmi port and you connects your to galaxy device over "wifi direct" (you dont need a wifi network for this to work). Its not sold in North America (thanks to apple) but is widely available on amazon and ebay for under $100.
Hope this helps.
Cheers
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Well, it's a hardware solution, and right now is a lil bit on the pricey side. Gigabyte skyvision ws100.
The advantage, you can use it with whatever devices with hdmi i/o capability. It seems it pretty much works flawlessly and without lag, if I had came across it couple of months before I might have bought one instead a 30m+ HDMI cable than runs from my PC to the TV in the living room. If I had, now I could easily switch between PC (gaming), laptop (movie watching), and now phones (occasional viewing of photos and stuff). And, I could use it to stream av to the projector in our bedroom.... might still consider this Christmas.
Best regards.
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I shall investigate. The problem with cables however is that the devices have different HDMI outputs (if at all) hence wanting wireless solution.
farhanali_ said:
The device is called Allshare cast dongle. It works with any TV with HDMI port. Plugs in to the hdmi port and you connects your to galaxy device over "wifi direct" (you dont need a wifi network for this to work). Its not sold in North America (thanks to apple) but is widely available on amazon and ebay for under $100.
Hope this helps.
Cheers
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I'm aware of the allshare dongle but I need it to work with more than samsung devices (see OP)
Would ANYBODY know ?
[/B]Does anybody know if it's possible to mirror the phone onto a smart tv without the use of a dongle????
and i don't mean videos, i mean complete mirroring???[/B]

Does Note 2 (Allshare cast) work with PTV3000 (Miracast receiver)

has anyone tried this
i nkow the GS3 worked with the Netgear PTV3000
but it seems to be a case by case thing, because the NOte 10.1 didn't
I bought the all share cast hub, but it sucks, because only the Note 2 can connect to it, and no other Miracast certified device (laptop) can
although the allshare cast is based on Miracast
So I am looking to get the PTV3000 which I know my laptop will connect to, and any miracast phone should (Nexus 4, GS3 already confirmed to work)
I hope someone who has tried the GNote 2 can weigh in
Thanks
SS2006 said:
has anyone tried this
i nkow the GS3 worked with the Netgear PTV3000
but it seems to be a case by case thing, because the NOte 10.1 didn't
I bought the all share cast hub, but it sucks, because only the Note 2 can connect to it, and no other Miracast certified device (laptop) can
although the allshare cast is based on Miracast
So I am looking to get the PTV3000 which I know my laptop will connect to, and any miracast phone should (Nexus 4, GS3 already confirmed to work)
I hope someone who has tried the GNote 2 can weigh in
Thanks
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If you look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1847290 you can see that the Samsung Galaxy S3 is supposed to work with Netgear ptv3000. But there is also issues as seen here http://goo.gl/TkAUT
I currently own a Galaxy Note 2 (sgh-i317m LTE model) and the new Push2TV (ptv3000) and no matter what I do I cannot get it to work
My phone runs on stock 4.1.1 JB and my PTV3000 is up to date.
If I put the Push2Tv in Miracast "mode" I see it from my GN2 AllShare Cast menu and it tries to connect ... but after many seconds it fails.
If someone else got it to work I would like to know also
SyCoQC said:
If you look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1847290 you can see that the Samsung Galaxy S3 is supposed to work with Netgear ptv3000. But there is also issues as seen here http://goo.gl/TkAUT
I currently own a Galaxy Note 2 (sgh-i317m LTE model) and the new Push2TV (ptv3000) and no matter what I do I cannot get it to work
My phone runs on stock 4.1.1 JB and my PTV3000 is up to date.
If I put the Push2Tv in Miracast "mode" I see it from my GN2 AllShare Cast menu and it tries to connect ... but after many seconds it fails.
If someone else got it to work I would like to know also
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Full Miracast support isn't approved until Android 4.2 (according to Wiki)
Just received an email from Netgear support:
Thank you for choosing NETGEAR. My name is ... and I will be your support expert. I appreciate the opportunity to assist you.
Regarding the concern, sometime early next year Netgear will release the firmware for this device that will enable the Miracast to work with your smart phone. So at present you will not be able to use this feature from your Smart Phone.
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I know 4.2 will officially support Miracast but we are talking about "AllShare Cast". The partnership has been announced between Samsung and Netgear but I see an update will be required.
SyCoQC said:
Just received an email from Netgear support:
I know 4.2 will officially support Miracast but we are talking about "AllShare Cast". The partnership has been announced between Samsung and Netgear but I see an update will be required.
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Ah..I see. AllSHare cast TO a PVT3000. Wow. That's a great idea!! The second it works I will buy a Netgear PVT 3000!
Edit: Found this.
I'm running Sprint GSIII w/ 4.1 and follow these steps:
1) Hook up the PTV3000 like normal (power, HDMI)
2) When it's booted up and displays ready to connect, I push the little button on the side and get the PTV3000 into Miracast mode
3) Launch "Allshare Cast" from the GSIII, click on and let it scan. It should display some "random" Netgear PTV3000 number
4) Click "Connect"; a pop-up window should open saying "Connecting", and once done you should be connected.
.....and that's it. Whatever you do on the phone will display on your TV exactly as does in the palm of your hand. Sometimes I have to toggle the button on the side of the PTV3000 and restart the Allshare Cast app to get it to connect, but nothing else is necessary.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-note-10-1/224488-allshare-cast-netgear-ptv3000.html
1) Hook up the PTV3000 like normal (power, HDMI)
2) When it's booted up and displays ready to connect, I push the little button on the side and get the PTV3000 into Miracast mode
3) Launch "Allshare Cast" from the GSIII, click on and let it scan. It should display some "random" Netgear PTV3000 number
4) Click "Connect"; a pop-up window should open saying "Connecting", and once done you should be connected.
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All that process is exactly what I do, but at step 4 it says "Connecting", for a while, then it fails
I have a Canadian Rogers Galaxy Note II with stock 4.1.1 rom (simply rooted). It looks like it should work but it doesn't. I've even tried to connect right after switching between the WiDi to Miracast mode (saw this trick elsewhere) but it's a no go.
I'll wait for Netgear update :angel:
GS3 vs. GNII - shouldn't they both work??
It's strange that GS3 works while GNII doesnt - no? Really looking for a simple solution to push out to tv. have GTV 1Gen version (revue) and can't get anything to work properly to push to tv. was oping this box could do it!
sonicthoughts said:
It's strange that GS3 works while GNII doesnt - no? Really looking for a simple solution to push out to tv. have GTV 1Gen version (revue) and can't get anything to work properly to push to tv. was oping this box could do it!
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Yes strange, I thought GS3 and GN2 were very similar. I've tried may scenario like resetting my PTV3000 with the reset button, restarted my GN2, tried to connect right after switching mode, waited for a complete AllShare Cast scan... and no solutions seems to work at the moment.
If someone know how to make it work without any PTV3000 update I'm ready to try
So is there any chance of extending the display to 1080p and outputting this to the miracast adapter? Ideally running two displays: An input device application (e.g. virtual KB/ mouse) on the phone and the main Android display on the monitor/TV?
Does a similar solution exist currently?
Connects to PTV3000 on LL1 build, get black screen on TV and settings FC on phone
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Connects to PTV3000 on LL1 build, get black screen on TV and settings FC on phone
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same here
Updated PTV3000 to 2.2.2 firmware, still doesn't work, at least gives an error though, complains about HDCP. Works great on my Nexus 4 now though.
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Connects to PTV3000 on LL1 build, get black screen on TV and settings FC on phone
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maybe working with gn2
scepterr said:
Updated PTV3000 to 2.2.2 firmware, still doesn't work, at least gives an error though, complains about HDCP. Works great on my Nexus 4 now though.
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I never post anything, but I thoght this might help a few people.
There has been reports of it working with the Galaxy note 2, with firmware 2.2.4
productforums. google. com /forum /#!topic/ mobile/ 5kUFRgcEYXE (cant post links)
I havent tried it yet, I will once I get home and can hook it up to my tv.
/cross fingers
Equinoxio said:
I never post anything, but I thoght this might help a few people.
There has been reports of it working with the Galaxy note 2, with firmware 2.2.4
productforums. google. com /forum /#!topic/ mobile/ 5kUFRgcEYXE (cant post links)
I havent tried it yet, I will once I get home and can hook it up to my tv.
/cross fingers
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If that is true I will buy one as well.
Edit:I asked some questions over in that forum as well.
2.2.6 released.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2410607/PTV3K_V2.2.6.sbin
"Chris LudlowLevel 1 Post replyJan 14 (15 hours ago)
I can confirm that the 2.2.4 firmware works with my Note 2.
PTV3000 2.2.4
Fully stock Note 2 AT&T - with the new 4.1.2 JB (multi window) update from samsung.
I had tried 2.1.4, 2.1.5, 2.2.2 and none worked.
After applying the 2.2.4 firmware the 1st couple of times connection failed. It turned off my wifi on the phone for some reason. When I turned it back on, opened Chrome browser then pulled the drop down message/task window and hit the "AllShare Cast" button, voila! It connected and is working pretty darn well considering this is beta. Lag is about 1 second, but all I want to do is watch pod casts/videos. Youtube as well as videos from channel9.msdn.com are playing perfectly (which I believe uses a silverlight/html 5 player).
I received a text in the middle of a video, so I flipped out to read it (mirrored on TV perfectly) but when I went back to chrome, the TV was stuck on the view of my message. I turned off the allcast, back on and it's running fine again."
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!msg/mobile/5kUFRgcEYXE/EaqSUrE58v8J
That's a done deal for me. Buying one. You can set up PS3 Media Server to run from a PC, and use UPNPlayer to access PS3 Media Server on the Note 2, then play a video through MX Player or DicePlayer and wirelessly, sending it to the Netgear PVT3000. And that's my goal.
I will put up a video once I have this working.
It is stuff like this that still casts a shadow on android. Apple tends to work really well with apple products but android based on open source which supposedly supports more standards out of the box just asks for a bad rap when OEM's halfass hardware support. And why doesn't android still not have a GOTO product that supports mirroring and dual screen support? Android is just begging for a universal dock, much like laptops have had for awhile, but the OEM's are too greedy and limit accessories on the fact that you'll buy the next accessory that is only supported by x phone or x brand.
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It is stuff like this that still casts a shadow on android. Apple tends to work really well with apple products but android based on open source which supposedly supports more standards out of the box just asks for a bad rap when OEM's halfass hardware support. And why doesn't android still not have a GOTO product that supports mirroring and dual screen support? Android is just begging for a universal dock, much like laptops have had for awhile, but the OEM's are too greedy and limit accessories on the fact that you'll buy the next accessory that is only supported by x phone or x brand.
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Apple requires an Apple TV to "Airplay" and this means obviously, totally closed source. Android is developing the open sourced Miracast into it's operating system base. That means ANY Miracast enabled device will allow for functioning wireless display. Samsung's All Share cast can already connect with a Samsung dongle OR a Samsung TV that has AllShare Cast enabled. BUT, Allshare ALSO works with a Miracast enabled receiver, like the PVT3000 which is in firmware dev right now.
PVT3000 firmware 2.2.4 works with Stock Allshare cast Samsung ROMS currently (with some noise issues).
While Android, being that it is open source doesn't have a dedicated wireless app, besides Miracast, is going to run behind Apple, once it is finished solving the bugs it will surpass Apple just like everything else in Android that has been refined does.
Take a look at the Nexus 4 Miracasting. And you don't need "Android/Google TV" to use it.
3:30 mark to see the delay from Nexus 4 to the screen (perfect for video...not for gaming)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwvYrv2s9Kk
Now...see what NVIDIA has done using the Tegra 3 to enhance Miracast.
:35 mark for delay example.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b52zqNIeQso
What's my point? It will get there, and when it does, it will be excellent.
EDIT: LG tv's are coming with Miracast built in. Check out this video. practically zero lag.
56 second mark for example.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPzRWw5LNL4
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Also..AirPlay has HUGE delays. About 3-4 seconds. While Miracast is getting down to around 60MS.
http://forum.algoriddim.com/viewtopic.php?id=1307
Manufacturers getting on board with Miracast:
http://certifications.wi-fi.org/sea...=&date_from=&date_to=&selected_certifications[]=69&x=62&y=15
and
http://certifications.wi-fi.org/sea...=&date_from=&date_to=&selected_certifications[]=67&x=37&y=8
I would say with this kind of collaboration it won't be long before Miracast comes to Apple products, unless Apple doesn't want that...then they had better expand the allowed receivers and improve their latency dramatically.
PVT3000 works on Galaxy Note 2 stock 4.1 ROM.
Ok. Received my Netgear PVT300 and here is what I have found so far. ONly testing with the 2.2.4 currently using a Galaxy Note 2 with stock ROM with power saving mode off.
1. NO noise line (garbled or digitized delays in the feed)
2. Sound and video sync fine.
3. If I am streaming Youtube, it seems that it works great, then may pause or stutter a bit. If I pick the phone up and click the power button or rotate the phone in my hand the stuttering goes away almost instantly. Like the phone has gone to sleep and moving it or pressing power brings the CPU back up to full speed. This may be important if Samsung needs to know that AllShare Cast sleeps too easily.
4. Netflix will NOT play through my wifi network when I have the AllShare cast on. Instead it grabs the cell tower for some weird reason. Also, equally as strange, Netflix plays the 16:9 (widescreen) videos in 4:3 (standard) making them look compressed...squished. Bizarre. As soon as I drop AllShare Cast the image goes widescreen and uses the wifi again.
5. Sometimes the AllShare complains that the stream is unstable and if I reconnect I might get a better signal. I am going to try placing the PVT in a better line of site place as it sits behind my HDTV right now.
6. And you aren't going to believe this one. I can connect to the PVT, then open up UPNPlayer, THEN...open a video that is being served from my PS3 Media Server off my PC, and play a 720P movie through the phone and out to the PVT. Unreal.
7. The only real hiccup is some actual frame dropping during playing. It's not bad...really barely noticeable But I can see it. If I have to guess I would say that there is a sync problem of some sort as the hiccup happens in a very evenly timed interval. Like every 23 out of 25 frames, that frame drops.
8. The delay is really minimal. I mean, you can see the delay from phone screen movement to TV, but even if you wanted to play a game...you could do it without much trouble if the game didn't require pinpoint reactivity (think Angry Birds Star Wars..lol)
Future testing plans:
I have not tried long term video playing, but I plan to and I plan to do it with the screen forced to stay on as well....just to see if the phone is deep sleeping and making the stream stutter because of it. I also plan to do all these same tests with 2.2.6 or the next beta that comes out (whichever happens first). I also want to try a customer ROM with a better kernel. I had a ROM on before and used the Perseus kernel and man....the phone was stupid fast. But I think it was killing the battery. Actually...that is another thing I wasnt to check. Making sure the battery can still charge while doing all of this. Sometimes running too many things and the GPS at the same time won't let the battery charge fast enough to beat the drain. Depends on your wall adapter really. Samsung's adapter is a 2 amp output and the phone needs it sometimes.
I could video my findings, but I doubt anyone cares that much.
HDCP
With a rooted note 2 running CleanROM ACE, I consistently get HDCP errors when attempting to connect. My girlfriend's stock note 2 works fine.
I'm not an expert, however from what I've read most roms do not include the files for HDCP authentication. I searched my device for libstagefright_hdcp.so for example, and came up with nothing.
The question arises:
Can you simply toss those files in the file system where they need to be? Will this yield the desired result?
I've also seen discussion of Cyanogen including these files with a setting to disable HDCP if a device is buggy. Can anyone confirm that?
Thanks for your time.

AllshareCast Dongle S/W update today

I got a notice to download the "AllshareCast Dongle S/W Update" to version LJ02 today. I don't have an AllshareCast dongle and I didn't even know that this app was installed on my phone. I'm wondering why they've pushed it out to everybody (I assume), since I imagine that only a tiny number of people have the app. Seems like it would make sense to install it only for people who actually have the dongle.
I'm thinking about uninstalling or freezing it. Has anybody else received it? Any thoughts?
I received the update last night around 130 am eastern........ Had no clue what it was. I am going to delete in a few minutes
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even after update not clear it really updated the dongle.. no real way to tell.. still get system crash after connecting to the dongle. in lh1 firmeware.
lgkahn said:
even after update not clear it really updated the dongle.. no real way to tell.. still get system crash after connecting to the dongle. in lh1 firmeware.
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What exactly is it
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What exactly is it
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It's supposed to allow the GS3 to update the software on the Allcast dongle that you can attach to TVs and such for device mirroring.
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It's supposed to allow the GS3 to update the software on the Allcast dongle that you can attach to TVs and such for device mirroring.
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The update is showing as not compatible with my SGS3 if I look at it on the Play Store. Dunno if it's a region thing or the fact I'm rooted with stock?
I'm keen to try this update on my Allshare dongle. Would anyone be able to extract the APK for this update?
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The update is showing as not compatible with my SGS3 if I look at it on the Play Store. Dunno if it's a region thing or the fact I'm rooted with stock?
I'm keen to try this update on my Allshare dongle. Would anyone be able to extract the APK for this update?
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Are you on LH9? It seems to only work on LH9 and LI5.
It's not an ATT GS3, so it's not got that firmware on it, but is the latest stock for my region, as far as I know (UK).
I was hoping the APK alone might still work, as it appears to be updating the Allcast dongle itself, rather than being tied to anything on the phone, hardware-wise.
Perhaps Samsung are rolling it out to a select few 'test' firmwares first? I believe I'm on LJ4, but I'm not up on Samsung's firmware terminology - not needed to really stray from rooted stock on this phone.
If you're able to extract the APK, it would be much appreciated
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It's not an ATT GS3, so it's not got that firmware on it, but is the latest stock for my region, as far as I know (UK).
I was hoping the APK alone might still work, as it appears to be updating the Allcast dongle itself, rather than being tied to anything on the phone, hardware-wise.
Perhaps Samsung are rolling it out to a select few 'test' firmwares first? I believe I'm on LJ4, but I'm not up on Samsung's firmware terminology - not needed to really stray from rooted stock on this phone.
If you're able to extract the APK, it would be much appreciated
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I will see if I can get it.
The developers email is s[email protected]. If that doesn't ring alarm bells I'm not sure what would..
z2k said:
The developers email is [email protected]. If that doesn't ring alarm bells I'm not sure what would..
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This is a legitimate Samsung update and it is a part of the function that allows you to share the screen with Dlna enabled devices such as blue ray players, wdtv (and other streaming boxes) and hdtv with the function.
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This is a legitimate Samsung update and it is a part of the function that allows you to share the screen with Dlna enabled devices such as blue ray players, wdtv (and other streaming boxes) and hdtv with the function.
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Are you sure about that? What you're describing sounds like "AllShare Play" which is a completely different app. Where did you get your information that this app has some connection to DLNA?
I have been using the all share dongle. It is just as described as above. I mirror my phone thru the dongle to and TV with a HDMI port. Or Samsung devices. Play videos games whatever. All share play let's you remote control devices from your phone. All share dongle does work thru some type of dlna service from what I read on Samsung site and other places.
I was using this feature before the update was put out. It now shows up as a installed app. Before the update it was just something you could turn on in settings and still is.
It's the pre configured scan portion for the $90 wifi dongle that you buy to connect to hdmi port on projectors and hdtv displays and or the software for your computer that allows you to share via wifi or Internet.
I bought the MHL connection and carry a cable so when I am in hotels I watch what I want (netflix, Hulu) while the phone charges.
But the address of the developer is legit.
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It's the pre configured scan portion for the $90 wifi dongle that you buy to connect to hdmi port on projectors and hdtv displays and or the software for your computer that allows you to share via wifi or Internet.
I bought the MHL connection and carry a cable so when I am in hotels I watch what I want (netflix, Hulu) while the phone charges.
But the address of the developer is legit.
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I'm sure that the update is legit. I just want to avoid confusion and misinformation about what it's for:
The Allshare Cast Dongle app supports the Allshare Cast Dongle
The Allshare Play app provides DLNA connectivity to DLNA-capable devices
I believe that the Allshare Cast Dongle does not use DLNA and that this update has no relationship to the Allshare Play app or to DLNA capability. If anybody has good evidence to the contrary, please post it.
That being said, my guess is that this new update being pushed out is useless to the great majority of us who don't have the dongle.
I'm pretty sure All Share Cast is Samsung's version of Miracast.
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I'm pretty sure All Share Cast is Samsung's version of Miracast.
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That's exactly what it is, I don't think the dongle uses DLNA at all.
I've found that this update has been changed to be compatible with my phone (stock UK GS3) over the last few days. It originally was shown as not compatible.
It basically prompts you to update your Allshare Cast dongle firmware when you next connect to it. It updates the dongle firmware - wirelessly - to version LJ02, which appears to have made the dongle connection much more stable, and quicker to establish.
OK, so I installed the update, then uninstalled it when I saw that it was useless for me. Now, I am getting a perpetual update notice in Google Play. Does anybody know a way to make the update notice go away without actually installing the app? The only way I can think of is to install it and then freeze it, but that seems like a waste.
stan.s said:
It's the pre configured scan portion for the $90 wifi dongle that you buy to connect to hdmi port on projectors and hdtv displays and or the software for your computer that allows you to share via wifi or Internet.
I bought the MHL connection and carry a cable so when I am in hotels I watch what I want (netflix, Hulu) while the phone charges.
But the address of the developer is legit.
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Why do you believe that the email address is legit? If you go to the "Samsung Mobile Print" app in google playstore the developers email is mprint.sec@samsung.com
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Why do you believe that the email address is legit? If you go to the "Samsung Mobile Print" app in google playstore the developers email is mprint.sec@samsung.com
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I just had a quick back and forth with Samsung. It is Not a official app. All official app can be found at www.Samsungapps.com.
Edit: seems that Samsung isn't sure it is or not.... They talked with someone else who says that it is valid. XDA has it marked as bloatware that can be removed.
Edit2: Lookout Security says they've been asked about it before and "We have encountered this in the past and Samsung has stated that this is their app via our contact." I'm requesting it be confirmed.
Edit3: A second person at Samsung support says it's not official and a 3P app.
It CAN be un installed with TI. First detach it from the market and then uninstall. It's actual name is com.sec.fwupgrade so don't be alarmed when it says that. I will be sending it to a couple of security vendors to include in malware lists and questioned Samsung why they have not had the app removed.
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[Q] Miracast on Tab S 8.4

Ive seen so many mixed report regarding Miracast. I really like the idea but am cautious. From what i understand Netgears Push 2 TV PTV3000 is considered one of the better dongles. Anyone got any recommendations or are currently using Miracast on thier Tab S? Not entirely sure if it is even compatible. Would appreciate any feedback on your experiences and any recommendations.
I've got it. I use it. It works.
I got it when I had my Surface 2, I've continued using it with this Tab. Connects perfectly. Only thing I've noticed is that after watching a few HD YouTube videos, the sound goes out of sync with the video. I've yet to fully investigate this phenomenon, whether it be the YouTube app, the Tab, background apps etc. but can't see it been anything to do with the Netgear. I'm off on holiday now so won't be able to look into that for another week.
P.S. not sure if you could use Chromecast in the same way, but if so it would be a cheaper option.
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I've got it. I use it. It works.
I got it when I had my Surface 2, I've continued using it with this Tab. Connects perfectly. Only thing I've noticed is that after watching a few HD YouTube videos, the sound goes out of sync with the video. I've yet to fully investigate this phenomenon, whether it be the YouTube app, the Tab, background apps etc. but can't see it been anything to do with the Netgear. I'm off on holiday now so won't be able to look into that for another week.
P.S. not sure if you could use Chromecast in the same way, but if so it would be a cheaper option.
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Many thanks for your reply, did you root your Tab S?
No. And it's the 10.5
My DLink Miracast adapter works perfect with the Tab S 8.4. Remember to update the firmware after you get the adapter home. Else it'll lag like hell. After the update it works like a charm.
And Tab isn't rooted.
geoux said:
My DLink Miracast adapter works perfect with the Tab S 8.4. Remember to update the firmware after you get the adapter home. Else it'll lag like hell. After the update it works like a charm.
And Tab isn't rooted.
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Update:
After the recent Tab S firmware update, it simply stopped working. Samsung, what did you do?
Update:
After a firmware update of the Miracast dongle, it started working again. Darn.
Ah, glad it's not just me then. I tried casting to the tv the other day (I'd just rooted the day before that) and I got an incompatible hardware issue or something, thought I'd broken something. I might have had an update in the background and it's ****ed it.
I'm using the Netgear PTV3000.
possible solution
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Update:
After the recent Tab S firmware update, it simply stopped working. Samsung, what did you do?
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please see below...i know u say that you're not rooted but if u are using custom kernel or recovery then this pertains to u too
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Ah, glad it's not just me then. I tried casting to the tv the other day (I'd just rooted the day before that) and I got an incompatible hardware issue or something, thought I'd broken something. I might have had an update in the background and it's ****ed it.
I'm using the Netgear PTV3000.
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if u are using cw/twrp/philz recovery and/or the sky high kernel then the custom images have broken your wifi...u can either install my SuperSamung V2 rom with the fix already included or edit your build prop by adding the line wlan.wfd.hdcp=disable then save & reboot
Sorry to revive an old thread, but i'm considering getting a Miracast dongle to feed powerpoint presentations to an office projector from my Tab S. Couple questions though:
1. Will it work?
2. Am I better off going the wired micro-usb-to-hdmi route?
I'd really rather go wireless so I can walk around and not worry about yanking the cable off in the middle of a meeting with top execs.
Why miracast instead chromecast? Chromecast works perfectly from the tablet or pc and has better support.
I just see miracast as a poor mans version of chromecast.
I'm also wondering about this.
For screen monitoring of e.g. games, photo viewing with Gallery of QuickPix, or tv streaming using an app provided by my cable company
I understood Chromecast is supposed to be especially good at showing content in the cloud. I forgot the exact list of supported services... Things like YouTube, picasa, Spotify, radio streams, Netflix? In this case, your tablet "refers" to the content, and chromecast does the actual downloading/streaming. Screen mirroring was added as an afterthought, and last I checked (hmm, 6 months ago) subject to a lot of disclaimers, supported only on some devices.
I understood Miracast is true screen mirroring, but the few receiver devices I looked at, mention technical limits, like (example) 15fps, which makes me doubt their use for video mirroring.
Thus I haven't bought anything yet :-\
More testimonies of miracast & Chromecast users could be interesting!
screen mirroring works fine with chromecast as long as you are not doing something effected by input/screen lag. Watching video from an app that is not natively supporting chromecasting (showbox...) is relatively simple. If you are on this forum you shoild have the ability to do it, just maybe not someone who can only facebook on their tab might have small issues. Casting pictures, slides, presentations or websites is fine too since there is no need to worry about the lag.
Gaming is annother story if you the person playing os wanting to use the tv screen then you have to pick a game with care. Any game that requires good to impossible timing (flappy anything or one finger death punch) is a great way for a masochist to have fun with out a sadist being in the room. Games that do not need fast timing like turn based strategy games or certain types of puzzle games are fine and work great. Even quite a few emulators work well like this but with the same game choice restrictions.
The screen lag you get is not anything like low fps it is input lag from the time difference it would take to simply send the information to your tablet vs the time it takes to send the information to your router and the router to send the information to the chromecast. I would assume miracast would suffer frome the same issues, though I haven't tried it yet.
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screen mirroring works fine with chromecast as long as you are not doing something effected by input/screen lag. Watching video from an app that is not natively supporting chromecasting (showbox...) is relatively simple.
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Interesting.
Is both screen + audio sent to the Chromecast then? Or are there audio/video sync issues... If video happens on tv but lags behind the video+audio of the tablet...
The audio went out of the tv when I did a cast using cast screen. Most of the casting I do from my device uses uPnPlay a wonderful free app that is as good as most if not all the paid upnp apps (bubble upnp/ allcast). I have never had any issues with audio desync using that app.
when I did a sceen cast with show box I did have a streaming hicup (a slight stutter) once or twice but that may have been due to my old router (wrt54g) and not so much the chromecast.
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Interesting.
Is both screen + audio sent to the Chromecast then? Or are there audio/video sync issues... If video happens on tv but lags behind the video+audio of the tablet...
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Never had any sync issues casting with chromecast.
In most situations you would never have to screen cast as chromecast can pretty much cast anything web or local natively.
Presentations is really the only use I can see for screen casting.
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In most situations you would never have to screen cast as chromecast can pretty much cast anything web or local natively. Presentations is really the only use I can see for screen casting.
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as I mentioned earlier, my TV cable provider, has an app that streams live TV. We have a 2nd TV in the bedroom for which we don't have a decoder box, but I hope I could screenmirror the TV stream that I can get through the App (audio&video).
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as I mentioned earlier, my TV cable provider, has an app that streams live TV. We have a 2nd TV in the bedroom for which we don't have a decoder box, but I hope I could screenmirror the TV stream that I can get through the App (audio&video).
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It should work fine for that then. You may get the occasional hiccup depending on many things but for the most part I do not see any reason why it would not work for you.
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Interesting.
Is both screen + audio sent to the Chromecast then? Or are there audio/video sync issues... If video happens on tv but lags behind the video+audio of the tablet...
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So I caved and bought an Chromecast (CC)
Findings:
- screencast works fine most of the time. Transfers audio and video, and keeps good sync. But some applications cause a crash and reboot of the tablet (e.g. mirroring of MX Player playing a video)
- casting youtube works fine.
- the app I was most interested in (a TV streaming app of my local TV cable company) in fact does both Chromecasting, and works in screen casting mode. Hurray)
- good wifi reception is needed on both the tablet and the CC
and a general point
- according to reading around, it's not possible to use the CC without active internet connection, not even for local screencasting. Technically, it seems unnecessary to have an active internet connection on the WLAN that connects both the CC and the tablet (or pc), for local casting or screencasting. Read more at e.g. https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/chromecast/XRktmNTk0QY
Sorry to take the thread off-topic from Miracast - but I think it's interesting to hear testimonies of both Chromecast and Miracast, to compare
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