OK, so first things first. I am rooted and have attempted repeatedly to remove the Google Play Services apk with no luck. I have used TB to uninstall. freeze, delete. It will delete the file and or remove it but when I reboot its back and it wont go away. I have looked into the my
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folder and deleted the file from there and then removing it with TB, still whether I reboot or I wait anywhere from minutes to a coupel hours its back and as it doesnt show up under the PLAY store I cant think of any other way to remove the dang thing and its eating about 40mb of internal storage. I move it to SD and it will work for a bit, but then its back to internal storage..... I dont even use Google+ that much on my phone. I use it on my PC.
Any ideas/suggestions?
File in question:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.gms&hl=en
ozzmanj1 said:
OK, so first things first. I am rooted and have attempted repeatedly to remove the Google Play Services apk with no luck. I have used TB to uninstall. freeze, delete. It will delete the file and or remove it but when I reboot its back and it wont go away. I have looked into the my
/data/app
folder and deleted the file from there and then removing it with TB, still whether I reboot or I wait anywhere from minutes to a coupel hours its back and as it doesnt show up under the PLAY store I cant think of any other way to remove the dang thing and its eating about 40mb of internal storage. I move it to SD and it will work for a bit, but then its back to internal storage..... I dont even use Google+ that much on my phone. I use it on my PC.
Any ideas/suggestions?
File in question:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.gms&hl=en
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It takes only 7.92MB of internal storage for me.
You need to remove the GPlay store to remove it permanently.
Maybe if I rename the play store apk and add a .bak then reboot then remove the dang thing entirely it will be gone.
I looked and I dont know whats different with mine but its eating around 39mb on my phone.
Why would you want to remove it? This app, as far as I can remember I read, gives us "Smart Update" which lets you install and update only the updated portions of apps instead of redownloading the entire app. So... I just moved the app to my system partition using TB, then Integrate it with the ROM everytime it gets updated. Internal memory problem solved.
According to Google Play reviews, you need it for YouTube and possibly other Google services.
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This app, as far as I can remember I read, gives us "Smart Update" which lets you install and update only the updated portions of apps instead of redownloading the entire app.
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Sorry, but this is wrong. Smart Update is a Google Play Store feature and has nothing to do with Google Play Services.
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According to Google Play reviews, you need it for YouTube and possibly other Google services.
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Yeah true, since newest version.
Google Play Services is something like a replacement for older Google APIs on Android. It allows developers to use a newer version of those APIs (this "newer" version is not better in any way, but new ). Google's idea is to get more independant from hardware manufacturers and their updates. They want this APIs to be no longer part of the system to update them on their own. They started porting their Apps to the new APIs, YouTube is one of the affected apps (what means they did not add any feature but let the app work only on Android systems with Play Services installed).
Im at war with Google now. Will go Windows
Up until today I was quite happy with my ZTE T60. Then suddenly upon waking up this morning it was sluggish, the Internet was unresponsive and became a great disappointment. Then the low memory warnings started, my "market" Icon was switched to "Play Store". So into settings and application management I go. Now I notice two new applications I did not install or was I asked for permissions. One being the play store which is only a MB or so bigger than the old "market" app but now I also have this "Google play services" thats 19MB! My device only has 128M ROM. I don't have room for it and I cant get rid of it. Being that Google took over my device I have decided to boycott all Android devices. I would also like to note the same exact thing was done by Google with my Samsung GT-S5570 Galaxy mini. Whats the point of pushing store software onto devices like this that takes up all of the Rom so one couldn't download anything from the store if they wanted to? Doesn't Google realize this enormous update is not suitable for every android device on-line and why have they mandated it? Sorry Google, I used to love ya but this is the big goodbye.
I am not sure about windows phone OS but I can agree with you. Now Apple and Android are doing the same bad things than Windows for desktop did in the past.
Unfortunately on mobilephones its is even worse because by default you are not root/admintrator.
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Up until today I was quite happy with my ZTE T60. Then suddenly upon waking up this morning it was sluggish, the Internet was unresponsive and became a great disappointment. Then the low memory warnings started, my "market" Icon was switched to "Play Store". So into settings and application management I go. Now I notice two new applications I did not install or was I asked for permissions. One being the play store which is only a MB or so bigger than the old "market" app but now I also have this "Google play services" thats 19MB! My device only has 128M ROM. I don't have room for it and I cant get rid of it. Being that Google took over my device I have decided to boycott all Android devices. I would also like to note the same exact thing was done by Google with my Samsung GT-S5570 Galaxy mini. Whats the point of pushing store software onto devices like this that takes up all of the Rom so one couldn't download anything from the store if they wanted to? Doesn't Google realize this enormous update is not suitable for every android device on-line and why have they mandated it? Sorry Google, I used to love ya but this is the big goodbye.
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You need it for like all services by google. The google play store will just keep downloading it and putting it on your phone until the end of time. Youd probably have to re engineer the google play and other google apps to not download this app.
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The dreaded message for not much space left. I've recently been testing out a few apps to suit my needs. And I've bumped into the message that shows the limitations of the eminently custmisable Android. And I haven't even downloaded one game!!!
I'm really hoping Froyo 2.2 (if that is what it will be called) will sort this out.
Pleeeeeeeease Google. Do us all a favour. Give us some room to maneuver.
I hope it gets sorted soon too. But as has been mentioned previously, HTC could have easily put 4-8gb onboard, plenty of space to install apps.
Google are adressing the issue, just have no idea when!
Re: Oh boy. "Phone storage space is getting low." Google, please sort it out.
Interestingly, I was thinking that the manufacturers of Android devices must know something because all the current crop of high end devices don't really have more than 1gig of memory. RAM or ROM. The Incredible being the exception. This was more nailed home when the Dell future devices (Thunder, Lightning, Flash, etc) came on the news feeds. The devices had no more on board memory than what we have now. And they are scheduled for release in 2011!
We all know Google is aware of tje issue. But what and when they are going to do is anyones guess. Amd why manufactures haven't been releasing devices with increasing on biard memory is perhaps telling.
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Google has already officially advised a couple of weeks ago that a solution will be available soon. What the timeframe of soon is hasn't yet been defined, nor whether it will be a patch fix or a froyo upgrade. But either way, it's coming soon
I thought it was a battery life issue? that larger on board storage tended to lead to battery life being very short. What they need is a secure version of app2sd that's official and doesn't lead to piracy. Hopefully 2.2 will contain this.
I have low space and I know that, does anyone know how to remove the notification without having to uninstall apps as I don't plan at the moment to install any more until the update. I think I will give it a month and if the update isn't out by then I will try root and apps2sd.
pathetic......
clearing cache seems to be daily task now.
I don't believe this. I just uninstalled Google Earth so that I could test another app. Didn't like the app. Removed it. Went to instally Google Earth again.
Can't find it in the Market.
Can't find in via m.google.com/earth. Message "The requested item could not be found."
Can't access it via the link that Google sends via sms.
Just my luck!
Search the nexus forums for the apk and install it directly.
That's what I did, no problems.
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Search the nexus forums for the apk and install it directly.
That's what I did, no problems.
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Done. (Well I actually had to find it through a Google search, but still.) Cheers.
cant seem to find it now tho
jfran said:
cant seem to find it now tho
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Login via your Google account via appbrains app then search via the app or the link http://www.appbrain.com/ via your PC...
Choose install in the web browser for example and via the app on the phone choose manage and sync
@ OP yes hope for 2.2 or in other words Froyo will have it, but curious how fast HTC will get us an update
What I personally use to manage the ridiculous small app memory space I use the app "Quick app" to cleanup cache space.
Re: Oh boy.
This is completely driving me nuts now. Every single day the same issue. At first it only triggered below 8mb free but now its become a joke. Same error even at 17mb free and can't install anything.
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I feel you. I just uninstalled a few, reinstalled G Earth, have 15.something MB left, and no notification. Maybe it needs to drop below 15 or get to 12.
Either way....
FRO-YO! FRO-YO! FRO-YO!
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I don't get how you've run out of space... I've got 87 apps installed on my phone (counted every icon on the pop up full program list) and still got 47MB's left...
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I don't get how you've run out of space... I've got 87 apps installed on my phone (counted every icon on the pop up full program list) and still got 47MB's left...
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A quick count up shows that 37 of those icons are pre-installed anyway, so you've not got quite so many apps as you think.
Add in a satnav and 8 or 9 games like me, and you will find yourself at the limit very quickly :-(
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A quick count up shows that 37 of those icons are pre-installed anyway, so you've not got quite so many apps as you think.
Add in a satnav and 8 or 9 games like me, and you will find yourself at the limit very quickly :-(
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Yeah I understand that a lot are pre-installed, but that still leaves 50 apps installed. I've not got sat nav installed (use google maps navigation) but i've got 20 games installed (nothing major like a big 3d game).
Does the sat nav install its self to the phone? Guess that would take up a lot of room...
What's the best way to clean out the phone cache etc. I found Quick Cache Cleaner that got me a few MB back from the browser.
This is a seriously, SERIOUSLY annoying problem I've discovered.
Sometimes when I open the "Downloads" section in Market my apps aren't there. Well, a few are but most aren't. And there doesn't seem to be a rhyme or reason behind which ones still show up vs the ones that are missing.
I don't switch ROMs - I run Fresh (currently the latest version).
The only way I can get them to reappear is to manually search for an app I already have installed and update it if an update is available. Then POOF all of my downloads are there.
Any idea what in the HECK could be going on here? This sucks because I can't see when an update is available unless I search for the app. It's driving me nuts
Try clearing the market data.
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Try clearing the market data.
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Thanks, that did it....still wonder what the heck the cause is though.
It may have something to do with running a custom rom, bit imo the Android market still has some bugs to work out.
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It happens to me all the time. Cyanogen and I believe Ava-Froyo roms seem to download all of my 350+ apps that I have ever downloaded. Some roms only seem to "remember" or only allow me to download certain apps from the Market. I am thinking that if I don't have the option selected to download unauthorized apps from the Market, that could be one reason why. But, I have been wondering the same thing as the OP. Only a couple of the many, many roms I have used/tried will actually have "saved" all of the apps I have ever downloaded. It is a pain when it is a paid app that doesn't show up. I have to remember which ones I bought so I can re-download!
My issue wasn't the market data, but for some reason some roms when Apps are moved to the SD card it screws up what shows.
Try moving any apps on your SD card to your phone memory instead, then kill the market task and restart it
they should all show then
Same problem but with a twist
Not only do my apps keep disappearing from the market, but some apps won't aunthenticate with Googles license server, so I cannot use them! ARGH!
crows4hire said:
Not only do my apps keep disappearing from the market, but some apps won't aunthenticate with Googles license server, so I cannot use them! ARGH!
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Nice job digging up a dead thread.
drmacinyasha said:
Nice job digging up a dead thread.
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No offense, but thats what happens when we hammer on people to search before posting... (s)he did and zombied the post.
Anyone know where the amazon app store stores all the .apk and other data. This is probably obvious but sometimes we are all a little retarded
I would think it would need to be in /data/app to run, but I could be wrong. The apps may also be in /data/app-private
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I would think it would need to be in /data/app to run, but I could be wrong. The apps may also be in /data/app-private
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Ahhh.. Duh. Good call. Thanks
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In the end, there's really no difference between the Amazon app store and any other method of sideloading an app. The app gets installed just like any other.
Data will be in /data/data. App will be in /data/app, or in an encrypted container stored under /sdcard/.android_secure and mounted under /mnt/asec if it's been moved to the SD card. Some apps also show up in /data/app-private, though I'm not sure what's determining that.
I was wondering the same thing, When Amazon Downloads apps, where does it store the data(before it is installed)..... because when I uninstall an app, amazon still has it downloaded and stored... but where??? Ive looked on Sd card, but nothing... I just hope it doesn't take and use up all my data for apps I DL, but uninstall
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I was wondering the same thing, When Amazon Downloads apps, where does it store the data(before it is installed)..... because when I uninstall an app, amazon still has it downloaded and stored... but where??? Ive looked on Sd card, but nothing... I just hope it doesn't take and use up all my data for apps I DL, but uninstall
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If I used it & felt like giving out card info for free apps, I'd look further into it. Why do you use the Amazon App Store as opposed to the market? Is there anything I'm missing out on except for the free paid apps each day?
And I'm confused by your explanation of app downloads. Are you saying Amazon downloads the apps, then you have to choose install from the notification bar (or something similar)?
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Some apps also show up in /data/app-private, though I'm not sure what's determining that.
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Apps in /data/app-private are considered "protected". Backup apps (without root access) cannot backup these apps. The developers don't want the .apks easily accessible to everyone (for whatever reason).
If you get the app from the amazon app store on your phone just because it's the free app of the day, but you don't have intention of installing the app and using it right away, amazon still downloads the .apk on to your phone on the sd card, under /sdcard/Android/data/com.amazon.venezia/cache
Yes, that's it exactly. Thanks!
This is aprticularly useful for Android owners on AT&T so we can get the free app and asave the apk and then use Android Injector or similar to sideload.
For those doing this, you must grab the APK from this folder before you download the next app since it seems it removes the previous download when downloading the next app.
I download it, grab it from my phone to my PC and then sideload it from there. Annoying, but until AT&T release their deadly grip on my phone's ability to install from other sources, this is the only way.
It'd be nice if you could download the APK directly from Amazon's pc-based webiste, but oh well there too.
I am not rooted for those that were curious and am running a stock ROM on my Motorola Atrix -- I know this is wrong forum, but it came up for my Google search and I figure it will help others doing the same.
Angry birds not in data/app?
Sort of along this topic.. I am aware no matter how the app is installed, it's typically in data/app data/app-private, or possibly system/app folders. However I've noticed recently that I cannot view the apk files for any angry birds games regardless of how they're installed, whether it be amazon app store or android market. I've been backing up the apps I purchase, or the 1 free app a day from the amazon market, however I cannot locate any of the angry birds games? I've done some searching for this and haven't been able to come across a reason or explanation. I am rooted, I typically use ES File Explorer on the phone or Droid Explorer on the computer.
Edit: I did end up finding out my problem (user error). As they automagically move to the sd card, they were not showing in the data app folder. I moved them all back over to the phone, rebooted, backed up the apk from the data/app, then put them back on the sd card. I tried to move them initially, but they weren't showing until I rebooted.
How would one take advantage of this with an app that is from the Play Store as well?
Allow me to explain...
I LOVE Jetpack Joyride. I have it originally on my iPhone 3GS. When I switched to Android with the Galaxy SII (i777; AT&T), I wanted it. Bad. It finally came but first through the Amazon App store. I immediately downloaded it, despite my disdain for the Amazon app. Well now Jetpack Joyride is available through the Play Store and I'd like to use it through there just with the way updating works (auto as opposed to Amazon's clunk, terrible app where I have to go in a basically sideload it). Is there a way to keep the save data from JJ that I have from Amazon and copy it to the right spot so if I were to have gotten JJ from the Play Store, that it could access it and I could just continue swimmingly? I've already installed JJ from both spots at the same time and the Play Store version (gotten after) starts from 0% where as the Amazon version holds all of my achievements, etc. It sounds possible in my head (and I know I've done it for things like PC games in the past) but I'm not as familiar with the file structure of Android as I am with Windows. Appreciate any advice even if it is just suck it up and stick with JJ through Amazon and not worry about it (it really isn't a big deal).
/sdcard/Android/data/com.amazon.venezia/
Have any of you Devs looked at this app? I already have a music player on my SII, so I figured I'd use Bloat Freezer to put it away, so to speak, in case I ever wanted it again. Turns out that BF doesn't see the app...
So, I went to Titanium Backup and was just going to remove it. Trouble is, TB can't remove it either. Says that it can't remove a system app. That kind of troubled me, mainly because I never installed this thing: it just showed up after the 2.3.6 update, and I can't figure out why a simple music player would be a system app.
The reason I'm a little worried about it is because it's constantly loaded in memory, regardless of how often I use Task Manager to Exit the app. And, after just finding out about CIQ and the System Manager 1.1 app, and getting rid of that, I'm leery of anything that runs without me starting it.
I might just be paranoid, but am I paranoid enough?
Thanks,
..Joe
did you enable Chuck Norris mode in Ti ?
i've never had an app that will not get removed or freezed by Ti
Yup. Rooted and SU'd after 2.3.6 using CWM and the SU in the Dev thread.
But I like "Chuck Norris Mode" better.
http://www.chucknorrisfacts.com/
..Joe
Bloat Freezer scans for and freezes individual apks. Titanium just loads android's list of apps of what it thinks is installed.
My guess? Sounds like the music app is really stored in another apk. Multiple apps can share an apk.
Based on my guess: bloat freezer sees the apk it is in(it scans the whole phone), but it probably has another name (could be part of google framework, or something else, who knows). Titanium sees it, but cannot freeze it because it would freeze too much other stuff.
I just got off the phone with Google support. Music 3.0.1 was part of the 2.3.6 update and cannot be completely removed from the phone as it is part of the system. In other words there is no .APK for it.
Google said they couldn't really help me with anything because my phone is rooted and they couldn't tell what ROM is on it. I offered to restore it back to the original ROM just to get rid of this thing, and that's when they told me there is really no way to do it- it's part of the system file.
To me, this is nothing more than spyware. I didn't ask for it, I don't want it, and it's not intrinsic to the operation of the phone. Android is an Open Handset Alliance package, so I don't really think Google has the right to force Bloatware down our throats.
For reasons I won't go into here, I will do anything to avoid having anything to do with Google.
So, I will still try to find a way to get rid of it. I saw one over on the
..Joe
I'm just wondering if removing some of the default that come pre installed google apps like gmail, playbook, play games ...or even the default calendar apps is going have any impact on the perfomance on the whole phone system or even the battery life.
It's kinda irritating to see apps that's in the app drawer that i dont use....plan to uninstall them off with titanium backup
eijnaix said:
I'm just wondering if removing some of the default that come pre installed google apps like gmail, playbook, play games ...or even the default calendar apps is going have any impact on the perfomance on the whole phone system or even the battery life.
It's kinda irritating to see apps that's in the app drawer that i dont use....plan to uninstall them off with titanium backup
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if they aren't running and never run (in the foreground or background) they won't impact battery life. if they are running you could stop them or freeze them with titanium. the only other difference they make is cluttering up the app drawer and taking up space in the storage.
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if they aren't running and never run (in the foreground or background) they won't impact battery life. if they are running you could stop them or freeze them with titanium. the only other difference they make is cluttering up the app drawer and taking up space in the storage.
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thanks for the info, but removing them would be a better ...yeah ?
eijnaix said:
thanks for the info, but removing them would be a better ...yeah ?
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Removing them, if you never use them won't make any difference at all, you might as well use the "hide" feature in the app drawer.
Removing some LG apps might make a difference, as some of them run even if you never actually use them, but the google apps will only run if you actually open them.
On a side note, I never understand why people buy android phones (especially top of the line, flagship phones!) and then remove almost every trace of Google from them, isn't it kind of defeating the whole point?
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Removing them, if you never use them won't make any difference at all, you might as well use the "hide" feature in the app drawer.
Removing some LG apps might make a difference, as some of them run even if you never actually use them, but the google apps will only run if you actually open them.
On a side note, I never understand why people buy android phones (especially top of the line, flagship phones!) and then remove almost every trace of Google from them, isn't it kind of defeating the whole point?
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I uses dropbox over google drive......dont need google music or play bookstore... but uses youtube, map a lot though
I don't suppose android is just about google...isnt it ?
Lennyuk said:
On a side note, I never understand why people buy android phones (especially top of the line, flagship phones!) and then remove almost every trace of Google from them, isn't it kind of defeating the whole point?
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That's the beauty of Android over iOS: you don't HAVE to use Google apps if you don't want to. Being able to uninstall any app should come by default on all ROMs.
I remember the big trial Microsoft has lost when it tried to force all users to use Internet Explorer in Windows. In Europe, they had to add it optionally, and provide way to remove it / download alternative software. Something similar might force Google to do the same in the future (and Apple, LG, Samsung, HTC, etc.)
As far as removing unnecessary core system apps, I've always used Root App Delete with no issues. It does require root but works perfectly to remove any unnecessary apps you don't want. Once I receive my G3 I plan on immediately rooting the phone and using Root App Delete to get rid of any bloat I don't want.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=zsj.android.systemappremover&hl=en
eijnaix said:
I uses dropbox over google drive......dont need google music or play bookstore... but uses youtube, map a lot though
I don't suppose android is just about google...isnt it ?
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exactly where is my point too, dropbox, youtube and google maps, well gmail etc, but dont wanna use g music, newstand, search, google plus etc. there should be an option to delete them without root!