Subject says it all. I've been using my S3 for about 6 months, stock. Recently OTA upgraded to 4.1.1 JB, which killed my battery life compared to ICS, but now I'm considering rooting just to test out ROMs and see if I can improve battery life (and all the goodies that come along with it)
Is preserving the flash counter important? Is that really something we should be concerned about?
I read something in a thread where it was said no matter how you obtain root, when you flash ROMs or kernels it trips the counter +1 anyway.
Just seems like if that is true, then why bother to preserve the flash counter if it trips anyway?
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Don't worry about it. Triangle away will reset it back to zero when needed
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But remember that it's not guaranteed that resetting the flash counter will work. It will void warranty.
I bought my S3 used, so I gave about zero craps because I had no intention of ever trying to get a replacement under warranty, anyway. I'd just sell it for parts if it came to that.
I hope that app works because lately the people who inspect the phones at the tmobile stores are actually looking to see if the phone is rooted now. So maybe the technicians at the lab will look for that counter and see that the phone was rooted.
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Yeah , same problem with me. When on stock ics the battery would drain by 2-3% per hour in idle mode. But after upgrading to jb it is draining at 8-9%. Does anyone knows how to fix that?
I've used triangle away and it resets flash counter. So if u ever need to get ur warranty back just use traingle away and flash stock rom.
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also, you can't play Avengers which you get free as a download from Media Hub if that counter is tripped. I've tried.
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also, you can't play Avengers which you get free as a download from Media Hub if that counter is tripped. I've tried.
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wow. I just tried this and it says it could not play this video. Which I downloaded before from media hub and it did play. But not now. Wow.
It doesn't really matter, BUT that is bull kaka!
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I even dont know how it matters and why.
Happly flashing everything best in market
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Flashing stuff when you don't even know what you're doing and impacting is a bad idea - a user needs to make an informed choice and understand the possible risks and benefits.
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Planning to upgrade to it in about a month. Are there any issues? Like my Infuse had the silent GPS unit recall and that screwed a lot of people. Any issues yet?
None.
Everything works great!
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I came from the infuse, and in comparison the note is unreal.
Hard to believe, but there really is no problems.
Only problem i have is people randomly coming up to me interviewing me about my huge phone
I'm totally pleased with my note. I haven't even felt the need to root it, it's that good out of the box.
The only gripe I have is with the stock keyboard not auto-correcting. It has predictions line swift key has, but auto-correction sucks. The only reason this is an issue is because the stock keyboard is the only one that has handwriting recognition, which is really awesome to have on this phone.
If I'm missing something here regarding the stock keyboard, please let me know, because I'd really love to be able to use handwriting without having to switch keyboards back and forth.
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Nickel Dime Bay said:
Only problem i have is people randomly coming up to me interviewing me about my huge phone
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This would be it.
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Great so far. Loving it more than my SGS3. I was ready to throw my SGS3 against the wall because I couldnt get the battery to last more than 12 hours. My GN2 lasts 24+ with moderate usage.
Went from iPhone 4 to SGS3 now to the GN2 and loving it. Got the GN2 instead of upgrading my current Nexus 7 to the 3G Nexus 7.
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I'm totally pleased with my note. I haven't even felt the need to root it, it's that good out of the box.
The only gripe I have is with the stock keyboard not auto-correcting. It has predictions line swift key has, but auto-correction sucks. The only reason this is an issue is because the stock keyboard is the only one that has handwriting recognition, which is really awesome to have on this phone.
If I'm missing something here regarding the stock keyboard, please let me know, because I'd really love to be able to use handwriting without having to switch keyboards back and forth.
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Yeah, I was never a fan of the swiping. But the auto correction works decently if you swipe it out. It's a learning curve for me too. I'm getting better and after just a day I'm about as accurate as I am with the keyboard I was using before. What finally got me to really try was the multi view. Having the keyboard pop up and float makes it much easier than taking up the whole bottom of the screen. Plus I love that number row.
I would like to see an option to enable the auto correct, though.
I keep forgetting how big this phone is. It still catches me off guard when people say it's big, it really doesn't feel big anymore.
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Hii,, i'm going to upgrade to N2 also but i'm worry about my app data as I'm using titanium backup app and it's great but i think it's working only with rooted device and i don't wont to root the N2,,
So dose titanium back work with it without root i any one can try it for me.... and if not there it any other app which can transfer app data??
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Titanium backup won't work without root. There are some app backup programs that don't need root, but none of them will backup the data. At least none I have found. Why don't you want to root the phone?
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Amazing phone. Fast does everything. Buy the smart dock and u have a full pc and get xbmc u have a full media center.
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Titanium backup won't work without root. There are some app backup programs that don't need root, but none of them will backup the data. At least none I have found. Why don't you want to root the phone?
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It will go out of warranty and why i need to break the security keep it safe....and y know the root steps is dangerous.
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Yeah I had a problem... I got a defective unit whre in low light situations and with brightness all the way down there would be a dark blob like inside the screen. All I had to do was call att though and I got a new phone the next day! Got to love overnight shipping!
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like it so much, i didn't touch my ipad and PC for a while now.......... :good:
may find the phone a bit big but after 2 days you used to it and forget about it and love it even more......
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It will go out of warranty and why i need to break the security keep it safe....and y know the root steps is dangerous.
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Rooting doesn't void your warranty. You can flash back to stock and with triangle away there is no lasting indication you did anything. I don't think there is any real chance of brick from rooting. I haven't seen someone bring a Samsung for a while that wasn't caused by user error flashing something meant for another device. I have seen HTC deny claims due to unlocked Bootloader, but only when dealt with direct, AT&T hasn't been. And I have never seen a report of Samsung denying warranty for something like that.
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Rooting doesn't void your warranty. You can flash back to stock and with triangle away there is no lasting indication you did anything. I don't think there is any real chance of brick from rooting. I haven't seen someone bring a Samsung for a while that wasn't caused by user error flashing something meant for another device. I have seen HTC deny claims due to unlocked Bootloader, but only when dealt with direct, AT&T hasn't been. And I have never seen a report of Samsung denying warranty for something like that.
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I heard rooting does void warranty and triangle away does remove flash count but your status in settings is labeled modified instead of normal. Prolly have to re flash.
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Xelstyle said:
This would be it.
Scribbled with the Note II
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Maybe the next nightly will fix it?
geebr200 said:
I heard rooting does void warranty and triangle away does remove flash count but your status in settings is labeled modified instead of normal. Prolly have to re flash.
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If you reflash the stock ROM bad then use the USB Jig or triangle away, it will show your phone as completely stock. If you keep it rooted with custom ROM you're definitely gonna be labeled as "customized"
Best phone I've ever owned, couldn't be happier. Upgraded to this from the Galaxy S3, and I see a MAJOR boost in performance and battery life. Highly recommend.
Fantastic phone without a doubt! Every ROM I have tried has been superfast.
My only gripe with the phone (and I didn't notice it at first) is that the plastic back makes all kids of clicking/squeeking type noises. Plastic does that. The back feels very cheap made. I have a replacement back coming tomorrow that is made from aluminum. This will make the device feel so much more solid. I will lose a bit of signal strength, but I can't stand the cheap clicking lol.
Hey guys, I have been switching ROMS like crazy and a few roms have given me issues with me LTE/4G, the only way for me to fix this is by restoring it back to stock and re-rooting it. anyways, is there a maximum count or else it will permanently brick or something?
Do you mean tripping the flash counter? I knew a guy who tripped his flash counter some 90 times or more on his note 1.
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Iv gone to 28 lol on this phone
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Mine stays at 1 no matter what I do.
I think the counter only gets tripped when you change recovery. That's what I found out when I did it.
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Samsung only cares if it's 1 or higher. Truth is they might have a limit to counts. Aka 255 or something. But I doubt it matters. If youre that worried triangle away. You just have voided your warranty. Which is stupid. Warranty doesnt matter on insurance though. They will gladly charge you the insurance fee for a new one.
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So I was ice fishing a few days ago and dropped my phone in the lake...yea, I'm retarded...long story short, my camera or flash does not work. I tried flashing a different Rom as a message said "camera failed" hoping it was somehow a software issue, but it looks like it is dead. Which brings me to my issue. Obviously they can see it has water damage from the pink marker...So what is the best way to unroot this thing and clear it of any signs that I rooted it? I've read a lot of mixed procedures on this and a lot of bickering between what to really do. So I was hoping someone could put me right exactly where I needed to be so I can resolve this as fast as I can. Thanks guys
This is an at&t phone...just to totally clarify that
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So I was ice fishing a few days ago and dropped my phone in the lake...yea, I'm retarded...long story short, my camera or flash does not work. I tried flashing a different Rom as a message said "camera failed" hoping it was somehow a software issue, but it looks like it is dead. Which brings me to my issue. Obviously they can see it has water damage from the pink marker...So what is the best way to unroot this thing and clear it of any signs that I rooted it? I've read a lot of mixed procedures on this and a lot of bickering between what to really do. So I was hoping someone could put me right exactly where I needed to be so I can resolve this as fast as I can. Thanks guys
This is an at&t phone...just to totally clarify that
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Assuming that you can get the device in download mode. You can install the stock firmware with Odin. Go to sammobile and download the firmware for your device. Then extract the file. Fire up Odin, choose pda, then locate the file. Click Start and your device will end up with stock unrooted firmware. You might also want to get triangle away from the market to reset your flash counter before you proceed. There are stickies on this in the development forum.
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Yea the phone works 100% minus the whole camera assembly. Also do you happen to know what the protocol on warranty service is? I know I'm out 200 right from the get go, is this something I can resolve at an at&t store or do they have to send me one?
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From what I remember they will charge you full price for the repairs and it might cost as much as a new phone. My friend drove over his note two and they charged him 299.99+50.00 service fee. Because water damage and other things void warranty. It doesn't even matter that you rooted since the warranty is void anyway.
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From what I remember they will charge you full price for the repairs and it might cost as much as a new phone. My friend drove over his note two and they charged him 299.99+50.00 service fee. Because water damage and other things void warranty. It doesn't even matter that you rooted since the warranty is void anyway.
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AT&T won't warranty the phone if it has water damage, you'd be stuck paying full( off contract price), unless you have another line due for an upgrade, or can get them to do an early or partial upgrade. If you had insurance on the phone, then you'd pay a deductible and they would send you another phone(usually refurbished).
Good luck
I thought I had mentioned that in my original post. I do have full insurance on it. I guess I said "warranty" didn't I? So what are the processes involved with an insurance claim. I apologize for not realizing this earlier.
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I also checked out triangle away, it says it can only reset the counter on certain phones(sgs3) if it is in a stock configuration. So I have to unroot...reroot, reset the counter and then unroot again....?
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ok, so here's the steps i took to unroot. Used triangle away to reset flash counter to 0...rebooted into CWM and cleared everything. Went directly from there into download mode.....And it showed flash count of 1!...WTF. So i proceeded with unrooting through ODIN because....idk. My question is, "what did I do wrong?". Shouldn't the flash counter read 0 and does Asurion/Samsung actually check this particular thing? I need some help here guys
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ok, so here's the steps i took to unroot. Used triangle away to reset flash counter to 0...rebooted into CWM and cleared everything. Went directly from there into download mode.....And it showed flash count of 1!...WTF. So i proceeded with unrooting through ODIN because....idk. My question is, "what did I do wrong?". Shouldn't the flash counter read 0 and does Asurion/Samsung actually check this particular thing? I need some help here guys
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try again, in this order:
Remove the battery cover
In Triangle Away, select "reset flash counter"
Once in Triangle Away's boot menu, press vol up to reset
The device will reboot. When it gets to the galaxy sIII screen, pull the battery, wait a few seconds, replace and power up
Go into download mode and check if it has successfully reset the counter
From download mode, go into recovery
Wipe data/factory reset, wipe cache, wipe dalvik
Go back into download mode
Launch Odin,
Plug phone in
Flash device-specific stock firmware
After phone has booted, unplug it
Once it goes to the galaxy sIII boot screen, pull battery, wait, replace
Boot into recovery and wipe data and cache
Reboot system
i think you may have to be on stock for this to work. keep me posted
ok I'll be doing that probably tomorrow. I did all the BS paperwork for asurion tonight so hopefully that'll be dealt with tomorrow. All I have to do is root install TA and follow those steps. One question though.... Where is the option in triangle away to let it boot itself into DL mode? I don't recall seeing that.
Side note, I now remember why I rooted in the first place. Stock battery life is laughable compared to what I'm use to haha
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ok I'll be doing that probably tomorrow. I did all the BS paperwork for asurion tonight so hopefully that'll be dealt with tomorrow. All I have to do is root install TA and follow those steps. One question though.... Where is the option in triangle away to let it boot itself into DL mode? I don't recall seeing that.
Side note, I now remember why I rooted in the first place. Stock battery life is laughable compared to what I'm use to haha
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in triangle away, once you select "reset flash counter", it will boot into the screen where you press the vol up to reset. that was the screen i meant. sorry for the confusion. i updated my instructions. cheers
Honestly. Your better off adding a line and getting a new phone. Theyre offering a refurbished note 2 for 99 cents and I believe I also saw the galaxy s3 for 29.99
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So I convince my sister to let me root her phone after showing her my awesome phone. I get all the files and prepare for the Odin flash but when I go into download mode on her phone everything says custom and she has a flash count of 7. Weird thing is that her phone isn't pre owned and I can guarantee that her phone has never been rooted or had anything flashed on it. Anybody see this before?
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Not I. The only way to trip the counter is to flash anything but official firmware via odin.
You sure it wasn't a refurb, or used and repackaged? Unless she got it direct from T-Mobile or a Wal-Mart type store, this is very possible.
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That's the weird thing, she bought it straight from tmobile. My sister has no idea how to do any of this stuff so I know she didn't root it before.
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Maybe it was used for batch testing? I kinda doubt there's any way to get to the bottom of this one...
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Yeah but it kind of makes me curious what would have happened if she ever needed a warranty replacement...
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Yeah but it kind of makes me curious what would have happened if she ever needed a warranty replacement...
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TriangleAway?
Yeah I used triangle away after I rooted it
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Is there anything I can do to return it because I'm just not happy with it..I still have days left to return to T-Mobile. .I know I would have to return to stock somehow at least...Should I just Odin back to the newest Ota or the one before? Do they check often on the Knox deal?
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Definitely Odin back to stock and then just hand it over. I'd be very, very surprised if they checked Knox. In fact, I just used my Jump to get this phone and the rep I dealt with didn't even check to see if my old phone turned on. He only checked for water damage and put the phone aside and handed me my new phone.
However, if by some crazy chance you get someone that actually knows what they're doing and gives you trouble, just go to a different store/s until someone takes it.
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I have to send it by mail..
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Well, that's a different story. I have read a lot of folks on here say that the people who receive these phones just completey reflash the stock firmware to the point that the phone is basically like new. That includes any kind of security features like Knox. I would think you should still be alright but I couldn't really say with confidence one way or the other as I've not had to mail in a non-stock phone before.
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