[Q] Connecting the Galaxy S3 to insecure bluetooth SPP - AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III

I've searched all over for this and I haven't found a solution. I've even decompiled APKs and deodexed the bluetooth odex searching for some clue on any way to change this, but I haven't found anything.
I've actually found a workaround in my particular case, but I'm still curious as to why this is happening and how no one has noticed...
So my Galaxy S3 will not pair with a bluetooth SPP device that has no passcode. I've paired with devices that support SSP without a passcode, but I can't pair with insecure devices. The reason I am trying to do this is because I need to stream GNSS data to a GPS receiver. The receiver is a Navcom SF-3040. For anyone searching, the workaround was to change to the PIN on the device to something other than "no pin". It was a pain in the ass though considering I can't find any 64 bit driver for this receiver and had to find a 32 bit Windows PC to use.
But my question still remains and I'm curious if anyone knows anything about this. After I successfully paired my phone with the receiver, I deleted the profile off my phone and I deleted the PIN from the receiver again just to reset it and see if it would work, but it didn't. The phone would still ask me for a PIN even when the device didn't have one, and there's no option to continue without inputting a PIN. Inputting any standard PIN like "0000" or "1234" didn't work. The only way to pair my phone with the receiver was to set a PIN for it.

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Trouble getting my GPS to sync w/ WM6 Bluetooth

I just bought a Holux M-241 Bluetooth GPS reciever to work in conjunction with my Vogue (CDMA HTC touch), I've tried to follow the instructions provided to create a device relationship, but the instructions were written to connect to a WM5 device whereas my touch is WM6 and I keep on getting hung up when it asks me to enter a passcode.
This is the first time I've tried to use bluetooth with my touch and it doesn't mention anything about passcodes in the GPS setup instructions. I've tried entering both the P/N and the S/N numbers written on a sticker on the back of the M-241, as well as my device password, but it always tells me that "the passcode is incorrect" and then it drops the bluetooth connection from both the system tray and the M-241.
I must be doing something wrong, I would really appreciate if someone has any advice on this situation.
- Sam
Try to use "0000" or "1234" wich are often the standard codes.
I got a similar problem: My HTC Wizard recognises my Bluetooth mouse (HID) and it also pairs. My mouse works without passcode and it Pairs without entering one.
Though, when it comes to register the device as an HID Device after Pairing, WM aks for the Passcode again. This time, the "next" button stays grey until anything is entered. As my mouse works WITHOUT a passcode, I cannot register it the right way.
Is there any solution to adding an HID device without passcode to my wizard?
When using GPS in WM6 make sure the built-in GPS feature in "programs" is diabled. I had problems with my Globalsat BT-359, it wouldn´t pair and it turned out to be the built-in feature that was making a hard time. It was somehow on by default and when I diabled it I could pair on first try.
Just a thought.
on my hermes w/ WM6 i pair it using the (passcode from documentation) then I use 0000 as the passcode when prompted.
I have a different GPS but usually 0000 is the passcode
thanks for the help everybody!
"0000" was the passcode.
I'm a taxi driver and being able to pair my GPS to my Touch to find the shortest routes has changed the way I drive.
All the best,
- Sam
Holux M-241 don't work after pairing
Hi, I paired my Holuix M-241 ith the XDA-Exec, authorized it, created the outgoing COM port as explained on the manual, BUT openning google maps, it don't get current position, I WHAT I have to do?
Please, HELP .
Thanks
passcode
on my hermes w/ WM6 i pair it using the passcode from documentation then I use four zero as the code when prompted.

does the bluetooth pairing request problem exist on the note 2?

currently have the gs3 thinking of getting the note 2. on the gs3 with the stock jellybean roms there is a problem that there is bluetooth pairing request every time you pair with a device, even if you have paired with that device before. it does not just connect automatically each time you must fill the request to connect.
does this happen with note 2?
No problem here pairing with a samsung headset and also a nokia one. No repeated request filling.
But of course there are lots of other problems with bluetooth (at least for me), especially with S voice control. Let's say the bluetooth experience on this phone is not stellar... Hoping these things will get better with time :angel:
Hi,
Paired my bluetooth once and going fine since then. Never asked to pair again.
Cheers!!
manjeev said:
Hi,
Paired my bluetooth once and going fine since then. Never asked to pair again.
Cheers!!
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i picked up the note 2 here in the US today...unfortunately it seems we have to pair bluetooth every single time. really sucks. every time i connect to my appradio2 i get i have to confirm the passkey to connect. there is no way around it that i can see and my previous phone the gs3 running cm10 never had this problem. could there possibly be someting i'm missing as to why it asks to confirm the passkey every time?
knives of ice said:
i picked up the note 2 here in the US today...unfortunately it seems we have to pair bluetooth every single time. really sucks. every time i connect to my appradio2 i get i have to confirm the passkey to connect. there is no way around it that i can see and my previous phone the gs3 running cm10 never had this problem. could there possibly be someting i'm missing as to why it asks to confirm the passkey every time?
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Hello sir,
I'm also having this same situation when connecting my N7100 to the car audio.
I think this is because the Bluetooth function on N7100 Jelly Bean is in invisible mode (Only visible for 2 Minutes with Default Setting).
Try to change the Visible Time Out on Bluetooth settings to "Never Time Out".
Hope this help.:silly:
Maybe a work around
Hello,
You might have the problem with "old" and "new" pairing method and these don't get on quite well. The problem is that you can't make the pairing code permanent.
You might want to try this work around and see if it works (I'm not sure but I managed to pair the ICS BT in my wifes car this way):
- Turn BT on on your phone and prepare it to send a picture or a contact by BT
- Put the device you want to pair with your Note in pairing mode (so it can be discovered by the Note)
- Now send the contact/image from the Note to the device you want to pair.
- The note will start searching for devices and you chose the device you need once the phone found your device
- Now the notification bar on the phone should prompt for the BT connection and you have the option to put in the code and check the "Do not ask anymore" option. After hitting OK your code should be permanent.
This method was found by a Master Brain called Rayer and he published it on a XPeria forum; you can hit the "Thank You" button anyway if it helps you

[CM11] [Seranoltexx] Bluetooth Problems

I am not sure if this is the right place to post this... however....
I've a problem with this hid device:
Microsoft Bluetooth Notebook Mouse 5000 V1.0
My OS version is CM11-20141112-SNAPSHOT-M12-seranoltexx
The symptoms: Failing to pair. The phone finds the device and when I click on it (does not request a PIN or key), the phone says "Pairing..." and stays like that for 1min, after this period Phone simply says "Can't communicate with Microsoft Bluetooth Notebook Mouse 5000"
What I tried is to turn off the Bluetooth before the mentioned dialog and then I got "Couldn't pair with Microsoft Bluetooth Notebook Mouse 5000 because of incorrect PIN or passkey". (never gave it one).
So I tried to pair the same mouse with Motorola Defy CM7. The OS showed a dialog requesting PIN entry. I entered 0000 and the devices were paired.
Tried to pair on a PC running Linux and Windows:
with PIN 0000 (successful at both)
without PIN (successful on Windows, unsuccessful on Linux)
with random PIN (unsuccessful on both)
Tried to pair external BT keyboard on CM11, CM7, Windows and Linux:
with PIN unsucessfull everywhere
without PIN (CM11 and CM7 never asked for. On Linux it was optional. On Windows it was pain in the ass. Paired after 10th try without PIN, by specifically pointing that the device is HID and does not request a PIN).
with random PIN (failed everywhere)
What I am suspecting here is that the MS Windows is trying to pass PIN 0000 to everything even if option Does not request PIN is ticked.
CM11 Bluetooth stack is trying to pair without PIN once it sees HID device. And I guess here is the issue.
Tried to fix this by my self. Changed bluetooth.apk/bluetoothext.apk from various CM11-seranoltexx versions - no luck. Analysed every libbt-*.so. Turns out that all the libs are the same through out the different versions of CM11.
So any method which will allow me to add BT HID device with PIN?
Perhaps an Xposed module (although I didn't find anything useful), or a CLI command?
Any help or advice will be appreciated.
Thanks

PX5 HA BT issue

I have HA head unit with 10 inch screen it is using HA_PX5_6.0(20171214) and MTCE_HA_V2.71
I have a problem connecting an OBD2 adapter, the adapter is called Response PP-2145.
Running a scan from the BT app in the head unit discovers the OBD2 adapter but it will not pair. This adapter cost quite a lot and was to replace a very cheap £3 one which works OK but does not find all available pids on the car.
If I search for the old (working) adapter it appears as an OBD symbol, a pairing attempt then asks for the password 1234 and it pairs OK.
The new adapter is found but has a mobile symbol and a pairing attempt does nothing at all. Yet pairing the new adapter to a Galaxy S6 works properly, there is no password asked for it just connects.
Edit forgot to say the factory setting for BT is set to SD-968, there are others but from memory trying to use MD725 (I think) results in no name or password in BT
Hi, known issue. Refer graser tool and information here
marchnz said:
Hi, known issue. Refer graser tool and information here
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Thank you, I had read that thread but I assumed that the issue was different as it says "Bluetooth OBD devices that name does not start with "OBD" does not communicate with the OBD app, as the app does not detect the OBD device and wants to open the Bluetooth connection."
My unit does not even pair, do you think this is the same issue? as perhaps I have misunderstood but I read it as meaning that the OBD2 would pair but apps could not connect to it if the name was not OBD or OBDII my adapter appears in the BT scan list called OBDII the same as one that does work.
Please do not think that I am questioning what you have told me, I would like to check that you think this would fix my particular problem before I take the risk (I am not experienced with this) of installing Xposed etc Thanks again for your help.
JohnLynn said:
Thank you, I had read that thread but I assumed that the issue was different as it says "Bluetooth OBD devices that name does not start with "OBD" does not communicate with the OBD app, as the app does not detect the OBD device and wants to open the Bluetooth connection."
My unit does not even pair, do you think this is the same issue? as perhaps I have misunderstood but I read it as meaning that the OBD2 would pair but apps could not connect to it if the name was not OBD or OBDII my adapter appears in the BT scan list called OBDII the same as one that does work.
Please do not think that I am questioning what you have told me, I would like to check that you think this would fix my particular problem before I take the risk (I am not experienced with this) of installing Xposed etc Thanks again for your help.
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It seems that your obd2 device is a low energy bt4.0 or above...
That devices don't need a pin number to pair...But I think the head unit is not prepared for that kind of obd2 devices...working normally with cheaper obd2 bt devices that need a pin to be paired (bt3.0 and lower)
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ikerg said:
It seems that your obd2 device is a low energy bt4.0 or above...
That devices don't need a pin number to pair...But I think the head unit is not prepared for that kind of obd2 devices...working normally with cheaper obd2 bt devices that need a pin to be paired (bt3.0 and lower)
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With Device name being "PP2145" (did you buy from Jaycar?) This device may only be installed with graser tool. Search discussion thread for instruction.
Sorry I have been a long while replying, yes the PP-2145 came from Jaycar and it does pair with a phone without asking for a password. The cheap one does ask for a password 1234
I will read the Graser tool thread and see if I have success, thank you for your continued efforts to help.
JohnLynn said:
Sorry I have been a long while replying, yes the PP-2145 came from Jaycar and it does pair with a phone without asking for a password. The cheap one does ask for a password 1234
I will read the Graser tool thread and see if I have success, thank you for your continued efforts to help.
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I have a VGate iCar2 which reports itself as "V-LINK" and does not require a password either (although the manual says it should ask for 1234). With the stock ROMs of November and December it pairs and is recognised as OBDII adapter (blue icon in the notification bar) without the need of the Graser tool.
One thing that helped others is to change the passcode of the unit to 1234 (from presumably 0000 it is now?).
Yes I had tried changing the head unit to 1234 but unfortunately that didn't work either. The adapter instruction book says "to pair select the PP-2145" but the adapter does not appear as PP-2145 it shows up as OBDII which is exactly the same as the cheap one that does ask for a password and does pair. The only noticeable difference is that the working one appears in the list of available devices as OBD but the one that does not pair is shown as a mobile phone symbol.
Am I right in thinking that the Graser tool is to enable the head unit to accept a device named something other than OBD? this is why I am so confused as this adapter does show in the available devices as OBDII not PP-2145
abagos said:
I have a VGate iCar2 which reports itself as "V-LINK" and does not require a password either (although the manual says it should ask for 1234). With the stock ROMs of November and December it pairs and is recognised as OBDII adapter (blue icon in the notification bar) without the need of the Graser tool.
One thing that helped others is to change the passcode of the unit to 1234 (from presumably 0000 it is now?).
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Even the Android system dos not show a dialog asking for a password, the password is required...for the VGATE 2 you need to set up the pin as 1234 or otherwise it will not pair...
the Graser tool helps to specific OBD2 devices to have the available port to transmit the data to MTCD units.....but i dont think it helps on pairing.
Before with my VGATE Icar3 I had to use Graser's tool to the android Torque app to recognize the paired OBD2 device, but the device was already paired. Now, as you pointed, Grasr's tool is no needed anymore as HCT removed the limitation of OBD2 devices to have a discovering name starting by "OBD" caharacters
ikerg said:
Even the Android system dos not show a dialog asking for a password, the password is required...for the VGATE 2 you need to set up the pin as 1234 or otherwise it will not pair...
the Graser tool helps to specific OBD2 devices to have the available port to transmit the data to MTCD units.....but i dont think it helps on pairing.
Before with my VGATE Icar3 I had to use Graser's tool to the android Torque app to recognize the paired OBD2 device, but the device was already paired. Now, as you pointed, Grasr's tool is no needed anymore as HCT removed the limitation of OBD2 devices to have a discovering name starting by "OBD" caharacters
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My problem is that both Torque and DashCommand have trouble establishing a connection with the OBD. When they are started, the connection to my iPhone is lost, often I have to re-enter the OBD settings in DashCommand.
Probably it has to do with my OBD? It has the feature to auto power off after thirty minutes and I have to press a button to wake it up. After I re-start the application it connects and works fine.
The V-LINK shows up in the paired devices but never turns green (like the phone) and all options other than "Unpair" are grayed out.
abagos said:
My problem is that both Torque and DashCommand have trouble establishing a connection with the OBD. When they are started, the connection to my iPhone is lost, often I have to re-enter the OBD settings in DashCommand.
Probably it has to do with my OBD? It has the feature to auto power off after thirty minutes and I have to press a button to wake it up. After I re-start the application it connects and works fine.
The V-LINK shows up in the paired devices but never turns green (like the phone) and all options other than "Unpair" are grayed out.
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in my case I have to unplug/plug again to Torque/DashCommand connects to the Device (I think due to the auto poweroff of the device), but you will see on the sattus bar how the OBD logo changes to BOLD when transmnitting to any app.
I have no issues of phone disconnection (Android Galaxy S8) when OBD devices connects
Would it be any use in my case with the not pairing issue trying an external BT adapter if there is a USB device that would work on these head units?
Today I was able to try my BT adapter in a friend's head unit which has the Malaysk rom. This of course has the Graser tool as standard.
Unfortunately the symptoms were identical, the unit recognises the BT adapter although shows a phone symbol and pressing pair results in absolutely nothing happening. This was from the BT app, if the same thing was tried from the settings/bluetooth then the adapter appeared named 1OBDII so we used the Glaser tool to add this name plus a few others such as PP-2145 but with no success.
I do not understand enough about the Glaser tool to try anything other than adding new names, there is a line above the name with "cv" written in it what is this?
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JohnLynn said:
I have HA head unit with 10 inch screen it is using HA_PX5_6.0(20171214) and MTCE_HA_V2.71
I have a problem connecting an OBD2 adapter, the adapter is called Response PP-2145.
Running a scan from the BT app in the head unit discovers the OBD2 adapter but it will not pair. This adapter cost quite a lot and was to replace a very cheap £3 one which works OK but does not find all available pids on the car.
If I search for the old (working) adapter it appears as an OBD symbol, a pairing attempt then asks for the password 1234 and it pairs OK.
The new adapter is found but has a mobile symbol and a pairing attempt does nothing at all. Yet pairing the new adapter to a Galaxy S6 works properly, there is no password asked for it just connects.
Edit forgot to say the factory setting for BT is set to SD-968, there are others but from memory trying to use MD725 (I think) results in no name or password in BT
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Hi
I have exactly the same problem as you, my Audio Video Nav Unit is a MTCE_MX2_V2.75_1 - Android 6.0.1
I also have a costful OBD reader OBDLink LX that i like very much, the BT discovered it with the phone symbol BUT simply don't get paired. With a cheap ELM327 Obd it works fine, but these cheap readers not always work properly.
I've tried several things but still don't work, if you get a solution post here
I will continue to search...
Good luck
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Hi
I have exactly the same problem as you, my Audio Video Nav Unit is a MTCE_MX2_V2.75_1 - Android 6.0.1
I also have a costful OBD reader OBDLink LX that i like very much, the BT discovered it with the phone symbol BUT simply don't get paired. With a cheap ELM327 Obd it works fine, but these cheap readers not always work properly.
I've tried several things but still don't work, if you get a solution post here
I will continue to search...
Good luck
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There are multiple posts on this issue. Set pin code in BT app to 1234. Push button on Odblink then scan on headunit. Await for discovery to complete then press on Odblink in app to pair. You might need to push pair button on Odblink a second time.
Well i've tried almost everything...result: nothing. It continues to Discover and identify the OBDLink LX, but DON'T PAIR. I even reset the px5 MTCE to factory settings to clear All caches and start All the process ...nothing.
Is There anybody here from Scantool.net to gimme a reply?
Yes I am afraid that I have run out of things to try, setting pine code to 1234 as suggested above in my case does nothing as my unit does not have a pin. It would be good to know why our head units recognise the OBD unit as a phone?
JohnLynn said:
Yes I am afraid that I have run out of things to try, setting pine code to 1234 as suggested above in my case does nothing as my unit does not have a pin. It would be good to know why our head units recognise the OBD unit as a phone?
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Hi John
well, i'm like you very sad not to set this up because the OBDLink LX is the best BT scan tool i ever used, cheap obd elm 327 have no comparison with LX, my cheap Obd already gave me ABS errors on the dash can you imagine and cut transmission very often, its useless.
the only thing their good is Pairing right away
But i didn''t gave up from LX yet...
I discover that our OBDLink LX firmware is STN 1155 V.4.3.0 identifying ELM327 V.1.3a and the cheap chinese ELM327 is V2.1, i think the problem is here... we need an older firmware
Keep in touch if you know something
Good luck
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Hi John
well, i'm like you very sad not to set this up because the OBDLink LX is the best BT scan tool i ever used, cheap obd elm 327 have no comparison with LX, my cheap Obd already gave me ABS errors on the dash can you imagine and cut transmission very often, its useless.
the only thing their good is Pairing right away
But i didn''t gave up from LX yet...
I discover that our OBDLink LX firmware is STN 1155 V.4.3.0 identifying ELM327 V.1.3a and the cheap chinese ELM327 is V2.1, i think the problem is here... we need an older firmware
Keep in touch if you know something
Good luck
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It doesn't matter the version of elm chip....(in fact I think odblink lx is not an elm)...the point here is the version of Bluetooth of the obd2 device....your device is low energy bt 4.1...and head unit recognizes it as phone...
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ikerg said:
It doesn't matter the version of elm chip....(in fact I think odblink lx is not an elm)...the point here is the version of Bluetooth of the obd2 device....your device is low energy bt 4.1...and head unit recognizes it as phone...
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Thanks Ikerg for your time.
And why doesn't pair even being recognize as a phone? If the head unit treats it like a phone, at least it might paired like one...
I think the problem also is the 6 digit code that OBD LX requires, but the head unit never received that request besides have 4 digit space 0000 or 1234
i even dispaired all my devices in head unit and nothing.
Is there any app or firmware that we can install on HU android that runs on low energy devices?

Alternate BT that can connect to XGPS160? [Rockchip PX5 A53 | Android 9.0 | 4GB RAM]

(@Admins I think this is the correct forum to post this in, but please feel free to move it if I've chosen the wrong forum. I'm still figuring out exactly what category my device is in)
TL;DR - Trying to figure out if it's possible to get an external USB Bluetooth dongle working on my radio instead of the built-in one, so I can connect to all types of bluetooth devices, not just streaming audio
Hi all,
I'm searching for a possible solution that would allow me to connect my Android radio (AUTOPUMPKIN AA0495B, using a PX5, MCU CSN2_06252019_163051) to a Dual XGPS160 device. I installed this stereo in my track car for the purpose of running Harry's Lap Timer; currently the app is running perfectly, with a wired OBDLink EX in use for OBDII data and also connecting to a GoPro via WiFi to control the camera. The last piece of the puzzle is I want to get an XGPS160 connected for better GPS data capture (10Hz vs 1Hz of the radio's GPS). After hours spent trying to get it to pair and connect to the device, I emailed AUTOPUMPKIN support and they confirmed that this radio cannot connect to such devices, as the Bluetooth module in the radio is essentially a glorified bluetooth headset and can only connect for streaming audio (I haven't been able to determine the model number of the bluetooth module it uses). My hope is there is a USB Bluetooth dongle that I could plug into the radio and then have the radio use that instead, which would then allow it to connect to the XGPS160 (and any other type of bluetooth device).
When I go into the Car Settings on the radio, it has the following options available for bluetooth:
IVT i140
IVT i145
FC6000TN
GOC_BC5
KD6
KD6 is what is selected from the factory. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is this list is basically the different bluetooth hardware models the radio has driver support for? If I'm correct on that, then I'm also guessing if I were to plug in a bluetooth dongle using one of the other models and change this setting, the radio would use that instead of the built-in bluetooth? I don't use the bluetooth audio streaming or phone tethering feature, so I don't care if I lose those features if it allows me to connect the radio to the XGPS160. As long as the WiFi keeps working I'm ok with it.
Sorry if I'm asking any stupid questions; I'm a programmer by background, but even after hours of reading this forum my knowledge about the hardware in these Android radio units is still very limited. That being said, I'm not opposed to modifying config files to get this working. I have Android Developer mode enabled and I can connect to the radio via ADB; I spent some time looking at the file structure and various config files so modifying those if needed shouldn't be a problem for me.
thanks!
There was another (lengthy) thread on the subject of bluetooth dongles around here somewhere. You will have to do a search for it. If I remember correctly you had to open your head unit and physically disconnect your original bt module... and even with that there was limited success in getting the thing to actually work....and of those who claimed they did get it to work also said they couldn't get anything more to connect to the dongle than what the original BT could handle
It's too bad too. I have a sound processor on my system which uses an app through BT on my phone to make adjustments and I was HOPING it would connect to the head unit. It won't
BTW... your obdlink ex usb will also work with Torque (Pro). I use it with torque and it's blazing fast and reliable.... a lot more than a BT connection!
deja100 said:
(@Admins I think this is the correct forum to post this in, but please feel free to move it if I've chosen the wrong forum. I'm still figuring out exactly what category my device is in)
TL;DR - Trying to figure out if it's possible to get an external USB Bluetooth dongle working on my radio instead of the built-in one, so I can connect to all types of bluetooth devices, not just streaming audio
Hi all,
I'm searching for a possible solution that would allow me to connect my Android radio (AUTOPUMPKIN AA0495B, using a PX5, MCU CSN2_06252019_163051) to a Dual XGPS160 device. I installed this stereo in my track car for the purpose of running Harry's Lap Timer; currently the app is running perfectly, with a wired OBDLink EX in use for OBDII data and also connecting to a GoPro via WiFi to control the camera. The last piece of the puzzle is I want to get an XGPS160 connected for better GPS data capture (10Hz vs 1Hz of the radio's GPS). After hours spent trying to get it to pair and connect to the device, I emailed AUTOPUMPKIN support and they confirmed that this radio cannot connect to such devices, as the Bluetooth module in the radio is essentially a glorified bluetooth headset and can only connect for streaming audio (I haven't been able to determine the model number of the bluetooth module it uses). My hope is there is a USB Bluetooth dongle that I could plug into the radio and then have the radio use that instead, which would then allow it to connect to the XGPS160 (and any other type of bluetooth device).
When I go into the Car Settings on the radio, it has the following options available for bluetooth:
IVT i140
IVT i145
FC6000TN
GOC_BC5
KD6
KD6 is what is selected from the factory. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is this list is basically the different bluetooth hardware models the radio has driver support for? If I'm correct on that, then I'm also guessing if I were to plug in a bluetooth dongle using one of the other models and change this setting, the radio would use that instead of the built-in bluetooth? I don't use the bluetooth audio streaming or phone tethering feature, so I don't care if I lose those features if it allows me to connect the radio to the XGPS160. As long as the WiFi keeps working I'm ok with it.
Sorry if I'm asking any stupid questions; I'm a programmer by background, but even after hours of reading this forum my knowledge about the hardware in these Android radio units is still very limited. That being said, I'm not opposed to modifying config files to get this working. I have Android Developer mode enabled and I can connect to the radio via ADB; I spent some time looking at the file structure and various config files so modifying those if needed shouldn't be a problem for me.
thanks!
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No; it must be a specific BT type MD725 realtek device. No, you cant connect all manner of devices due to the hacked BT implementation.
Bob_Sanders said:
There was another (lengthy) thread on the subject of bluetooth dongles around here somewhere. You will have to do a search for it. If I remember correctly you had to open your head unit and physically disconnect your original bt module... and even with that there was limited success in getting the thing to actually work....and of those who claimed they did get it to work also said they couldn't get anything more to connect to the dongle than what the original BT could handle
It's too bad too. I have a sound processor on my system which uses an app through BT on my phone to make adjustments and I was HOPING it would connect to the head unit. It won't
BTW... your obdlink ex usb will also work with Torque (Pro). I use it with torque and it's blazing fast and reliable.... a lot more than a BT connection!
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Yeh I found that threat in my searches, but no one in there quite mentioned this specific scenario (Selecting one of the other options in the Bluetooth settings) so I wasn't sure. And I'm definitely not opening up the unit and cutting on the hardware; hacking config files I can do all day long, but I have no skills when it comes to soldering so I'd probably just destroy the radio in the process of trying to cut that module :laugh:
Yeh I've run the OBDLink EX with Torque as well for data logging temps on track and it worked flawlessly for that as well. BT is definitely more convenient, especially since most are running apps from their phones, but if you have a dedicated radio like these then it's a no-brainer to permanently wire up a USB device.
marchnz said:
No; it must be a specific BT type MD725 realtek device. No, you cant connect all manner of devices due to the hacked BT implementation.
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When you say "hacked BT implementation" I'm assuming you mean they don't use the standard Bluetooth stack built into the Android OS? That would make sense, as when I try to do anything with bluetooth from the standard Bluetooth settings menu, it doesn't do anything, doesn't see any devices available for pairing, or anything else. You can only see other devices and pair to them from the PUMPKIN Bluetooth app; the funny thing is it will go through the first steps and show the XGPS160 as being paired, but none of the apps that use the GPS actually see it as a paired device (my OBD dongle shows up, but not the GPS).
I don't understand why they didn't just use standard bluetooth that's already part of the OS, rather than use some hacky custom solution
Quick update since the last post. Spent some time tonight on google looking up the information I could find on those other bluetooth modules in the list of options on my stereo. Based on technical manuals and FCC documents, it appears the FC6000TN and BC5 are audio-only bluetooth chips that only support A2DP profile (basically the same as what I have now with the KD6); Now the IVT i140 and IVT i145 on the other hand appear to be full fledged bluetooth chips, and do support the SPP (Serial Port Protocol) that is needed by the XGPS160 (and many other bluetooth profiles) so in theory that would work. Unfortunately after searching for both of those, all I can find are ones in bare module form (i145 and i140) that would have to be soldered onto the board (assuming the pins are even compatible) and there are no USB versions of them that I could just plug in to my radio's free USB-A slot. The only thing even remotely close that comes up in Google in USB form is this adapter and I'm pretty sure it's not based on the i140 or i145.
Given that my soldering skills are non-existent, it seems I'm pretty much out of luck on getting this to work. Disappointing for sure, as I would gladly have paid more $ for the unit to come with a fully functional bluetooth module instead of this hacked audio only junk they put in it :/
deja100 said:
Quick update since the last post. Spent some time tonight on google looking up the information I could find on those other bluetooth modules in the list of options on my stereo. Based on technical manuals and FCC documents, it appears the FC6000TN and BC5 are audio-only bluetooth chips that only support A2DP profile (basically the same as what I have now with the KD6); Now the IVT i140 and IVT i145 on the other hand appear to be full fledged bluetooth chips, and do support the SPP (Serial Port Protocol) that is needed by the XGPS160 (and many other bluetooth profiles) so in theory that would work. Unfortunately after searching for both of those, all I can find are ones in bare module form (i145 and i140) that would have to be soldered onto the board (assuming the pins are even compatible) and there are no USB versions of them that I could just plug in to my radio's free USB-A slot. The only thing even remotely close that comes up in Google in USB form is this adapter and I'm pretty sure it's not based on the i140 or i145.
Given that my soldering skills are non-existent, it seems I'm pretty much out of luck on getting this to work. Disappointing for sure, as I would gladly have paid more $ for the unit to come with a fully functional bluetooth module instead of this hacked audio only junk they put in it :/
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Unfortunately, It wouldn't matter which BT you use from the supported BT types, BT implementation is non-standard to do stuff like act as a BT hands-free.
marchnz said:
Unfortunately, It wouldn't matter which BT you use from the supported BT types, BT implementation is non-standard to do stuff like act as a BT hands-free.
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Yeh, that's extremely disappointing Does anyone know of any Android based radio units that have full working bluetooth? I don't mind buying a new unit for the car if I know it will work with everything.
The old intel sofia units (mtcd as well) had the bluetooth & wifi ibtegrated into the soc...and they had a standard (or at least more profiles) implemented
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ikerg said:
The old intel sofia units (mtcd as well) had the bluetooth & wifi ibtegrated into the soc...and they had a standard (or at least more profiles) implemented
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Bummer they don't make those units anymore :/ Then again, they may not have been powerful enough to run my track timer apps anyway.

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