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I need opinions, anyone?
I keep flashing different ROMS and the battery has always had bad life
I've done a lot of different methods to fix battery life issues, but no go.
Having good luck with Swagged Out Stock.
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A lot of people say AOSP ROMs are good on battery life cuz the sense is gone.
Try out Xplod RLS (one of my favs) test it out see how it goes for you. It's an AOSP btw.
For sense I recommend Tommytomatoes Classic v0.0.0.4 its awesome!
How long does your battery last? Are you running mobile data all day? GPS?
I can get around 20-24 hours put of my battery with real heavy usage. Around 2 days with normal use.
I keep my 3g and everything off until i need it.
HTC EVO 4G running Mikg 2.58
Don't know who your talkin too but I'll reply lol
On Classic I'm gettin roughly about 1d 19h 43m with pretty decent usage text, call, xda, browsing jus putting it to charge right now
I have always had the best success with AOSP and custom kernel.
Currently running ICSmod7 with latest tiamets. With 4g it drops fast but without I get through a full day no worries medium use. Text, fb, music during workout ect...
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Getting good battery life with MikG 2.61.
mikg rom to me is best for battery life .and very stable rom and clean so try and let us know .im running miui and battery life is pretty good but not as good as my mikg rom
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I've been experimenting with ROMs and kernels for the last 18 months, always looking for best battery life with regular to heavy use. A good custom kernel will sometimes give you an extra 10-15 %. Using setCPU or another app like systemtuner (my pref) to turn CPU down while screen off can also give you 5-10%. Far and away the best thing for my battery is to use an alternative launcher (ADW for me) and then use Titanium backup pro or systemtuner to freeze sense. you just find the two elements in the process list that start with "HTC sense" and freeze them. Night and day. FYI I run synergy and have always come back to Myn's ROMs cause they are good for battery from the start, but they also take well to pretty much any custom kernel, which isn't true for all ROMs. I like everything to work so I always ditch AOSP ROMs a few days after trying them.
sam9696 said:
I've been experimenting with ROMs and kernels for the last 18 months, always looking for best battery life with regular to heavy use. A good custom kernel will sometimes give you an extra 10-15 %. Using setCPU or another app like systemtuner (my pref) to turn CPU down while screen off can also give you 5-10%. Far and away the best thing for my battery is to use an alternative launcher (ADW for me) and then use Titanium backup pro or systemtuner to freeze sense. you just find the two elements in the process list that start with "HTC sense" and freeze them. Night and day. FYI I run synergy and have always come back to Myn's ROMs cause they are good for battery from the start, but they also take well to pretty much any custom kernel, which isn't true for all ROMs. I like everything to work so I always ditch AOSP ROMs a few days after trying them.
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Underclocking your CPU typically causes higher battery drain... unless you're overclocking. As long as nothing is really hammering the CPU in the background (which is the problem, not the CPU speed!), then it's better to let the CPU enter higher power states in order to finish the work quicker and return to low power sleep state. Intel calls this HUGI (Hurry Up and Get Idle). Overclocking can have bad effects with HUGI due to the higher voltage required to run at those frequencies. Lol'd at your AOSP comment though. I suppose some people are okay with subpar android, aka sense .
My Evo can last a week on a single charge. CM7.1, 1850 mAh aftermarket battery (slim, stock battery cover), Tiamat 4.1.0 kernel, aggressive undervolting and monitoring of wakelocks combined with 90% wifi usage (3g is the #1 source of battery drain!).
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Tommytomatoes The Classic is a solid sense rom with good battery life its fast as hell, has lots of mods and themes and is pretty sick I've been stuck on it for over a month now I've flashed other roms but always come back to the classic after a few hours
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maybe a dumb question. What is the difference between underclocking and undervolting?
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Underclocking your CPU typically causes higher battery drain... unless you're overclocking. As long as nothing is really hammering the CPU in the background (which is the problem, not the CPU speed!), then it's better to let the CPU enter higher power states in order to finish the work quicker and return to low power sleep state. Intel calls this HUGI (Hurry Up and Get Idle). Overclocking can have bad effects with HUGI due to the higher voltage required to run at those frequencies. Lol'd at your AOSP comment though. I suppose some people are okay with subpar android, aka sense .
My Evo can last a week on a single charge. CM7.1, 1850 mAh aftermarket battery (slim, stock battery cover), Tiamat 4.1.0 kernel, aggressive undervolting and monitoring of wakelocks combined with 90% wifi usage (3g is the #1 source of battery drain!).
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Underclocking is when you set the speed of the processor to a lower setting than the stock clocks where as undervolting is lowering the voltage needed to run it at a certain speed be it stock underclocked or overclocked. Simplest way I understand it.
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Real culprit for batt issues
Has anyone ever bothered to understand that theres a pesty bug no one knew of.. Called CIQ "carrier IQ"
Ya this is one of the main reasons behind bad batt.. Sprint and other carriers allow a company to monitor and chart everything we do and it mirrors off txts and data sent and is designed to pick up on.key words... Basically an Invasive tracking monitor. It's a huge in noticed drain... And its been shown to be removed from system/app in many custom roms. But it never does cause its so strattled throughout the OS.
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IMPuLSe EX said:
I need opinions, anyone?
I keep flashing different ROMS and the battery has always had bad life
I've done a lot of different methods to fix battery life issues, but no go.
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I have been using evodeck v1.3 with the lee kernel and the rom just sips on my battery and gives me outstanding battery life with amazing speeds
lojak29 said:
Has anyone ever bothered to understand that theres a pesty bug no one knew of.. Called CIQ "carrier IQ"
Ya this is one of the main reasons behind bad batt.. Sprint and other carriers allow a company to monitor and chart everything we do and it mirrors off txts and data sent and is designed to pick up on.key words... Basically an Invasive tracking monitor. It's a huge in noticed drain... And its been shown to be removed from system/app in many custom roms. But it never does cause its so strattled throughout the OS.
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"no one knew of" are you kidding me? Carrier IQ has been known about for at least a year now... and no, it's not responsible for any significant amount of battery drain...
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Definantly aosp in my experience. Cm7 gets my vote for battery life
Gary13579 said:
Underclocking your CPU typically causes higher battery drain... unless you're overclocking. As long as nothing is really hammering the CPU in the background (which is the problem, not the CPU speed!), then it's better to let the CPU enter higher power states in order to finish the work quicker and return to low power sleep state. Intel calls this HUGI (Hurry Up and Get Idle). Overclocking can have bad effects with HUGI due to the higher voltage required to run at those frequencies. Lol'd at your AOSP comment though. I suppose some people are okay with subpar android, aka sense .
My Evo can last a week on a single charge. CM7.1, 1850 mAh aftermarket battery (slim, stock battery cover), Tiamat 4.1.0 kernel, aggressive undervolting and monitoring of wakelocks combined with 90% wifi usage (3g is the #1 source of battery drain!).
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So you clearly don't talk on the phone at all.
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So you clearly don't talk on the phone at all.
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Ah yes, the people that come in arguing and debating my claims. This happens every time. I use my phone quite often, and still get amazing battery life.
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Gary13579 said:
Ah yes, the people that come in arguing and debating my claims. This happens every time. I use my phone quite often, and still get amazing battery life.
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Dude you have a serious problem I honestly think you need to quit thinking people are attacking you this is the 3rd time I've seen you in a thread that I'm in and not once have I seen you post anything good or helpful I honestly think you should refrain from posting that's my opinion only cause I think your on a kid level and you really can't carry an easy conversation with someone sometimes I wonder if you even have this phone and if your trolling EVO Forum instead of the Transformer Forum.
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Ever since i flashed francos kernel for the first time i failed to see any difference whatsoever in batterylife or performance. 4 versions of franco kernel later and still no change. Even bought his app and tried undervolting. I accidentaly uv'd by 100 in the 700 category and none of the side effects were happening so i tried undervolting all by 200 and even setting on boot. Nothing happened. I then flashed jame bond kernel and nothing happened. When i tried flashing glados kernel it just froze on boot. I experimented with all of them for at least a day and except glados which didn't work they all showed no difference than stock regarding battery life or performance. What could be the cause of this?
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Kernels don't have the profound effect you might think on this phone. Not nearly as much as devices I have had in the past.
I'm aware of that, but still. No difference whatsoever? Even when i intentionally try and break it by undervolting by 200?
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What did you undervolt by 200? Some speed steps can get away with that.
What ROM are you using?
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Kernels don't have the profound effect you might think on this phone. Not nearly as much as devices I have had in the past.
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Adrynalyne! Its good to see you here!
Yeah, on the Fascinate, Kernels had much more of a profound effect. I can't say the same for this phone. But the OP said that he purposely tried to Bork his phone to see if it worked and it didn't even touch it. That's really strange. I can purposely try to Bork mine and do a pretty damn good job of it.
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Some kernels had broken UV interfaces that wouldn't undervolt the kernel and would allow you to undervolt by absurd amounts. (though it wasn't actually doing anything)
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Some kernels had broken UV interfaces that wouldn't undervolt the kernel and would allow you to undervolt by absurd amounts. (though it wasn't actually doing anything)
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Well, are all the most popular kernels broken? Franco, glados, jame bond? I'm more inclined to think the problem is localized (either me or my phone).
And i'm running aokp 20, btw. Had 19 and milestone2 before those, which were all installed after full wipes (before anyone suggests that).
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Your not the only one with this problem as I too have seen no change in battery performance on my gnex. I'm also using aokp 20 and Franco's (14.4). What I don't get however is that my buddy seems to see significant improvement in his phone while running the same rom/kernel combo
I've had some friends do some tests for me and run stock kernels for a while.
The differences in performance and battery life were menial between custom and stock.
What about all those people that claim seeing improved battery life? Not to mention those impresive screenshots of battery stats that show numbers i have yet to even come close to.
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Many of those screenshots are sleep time.
Also, never underestimate the power of placebo.
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Many of those screenshots are sleep time.
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naturally. also, data calls are a huge battery drainer, even with excellent reception, when actually using the phone. the same with wifi.
to give the op an example, this last night i forgot wifi on. connected to my home network. the phone slept well (something woke it up in the middle but for a very short period of time, probably gmail), and i only lost 3%. i normally loose 1% in 7hrs approx., so it wasnt so bad.
on the other hand, if screenOn is true, it will obviously drain faster..
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Many of those screenshots are sleep time.
Also, never underestimate the power of placebo.
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+1 on that.
Btw adryn, what kernel/rom do you use in your gnex?
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Tried a lot of combinations, but at the time of writing the original post i had been using aokp 20 with franco 14.4 for a while. I am currently trying aokp20 with trinity 384mhz gpu.
Also i lost about 2%/hour with franco in standby. I had mobile data connected and autosync only for google account + yahoo mail, all set to sync each hour.
Waiting on trinity now. Curious if i notice any difference besides the lack of franco's blueish tint.
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adrynalyne said:
Many of those screenshots are sleep time.
Also, never underestimate the power of placebo.
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This.
However, the GPU overclock is noticeable on games like Shadow and GTA.
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+1 on that.
Btw adryn, what kernel/rom do you use in your gnex?
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My own or stock. I experiment a lot. Currently I am running a custom with a tweaked deadline scheduler, and a slightly different oc method for gpu and cpu than everyone is using to 1.35ghz. Stock voltages, tweaked ramdisk for filesystem mounts. Stock sleep profile of 350/700 on Interactive. Not using Setcpu to overclock at all. I set the power profile in fw-res to include the extra speed step.
So far so good, but its too early to tell. I went to bed and work up 9 hours off battery with 99% remaining. So its definitely deep sleeping fine I won't know for a couple days on whether it sucks battery dry or not.
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This.
However, the GPU overclock is noticeable on games like Shadow and GTA.
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I don't play a lot of games but 307mhz to 384, nets me 3fps in Nenamark2. Not exactly mind blowing.
adrynalyne said:
Many of those screenshots are sleep time.
Also, never underestimate the power of placebo.
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exactly. I used to go crazy doing this and that, disabling this and that to try to get 20+ hours that people were getting on stock battery. Then I came to realize that the screenshots are probably mostly sleep time. Me being a very social person (text, IM, Facebook, and Tweet a lot) there is no way I was ever gonna get anywhere near 20 hours on stock. So I bought a couple of spare batteries, turned stuff back on, turn the screen back on brightly and enjoyed the phone and its great screen without worrying about battery life
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Ill be as honest as I can. I just had two nexus and installed two different roms and and two different kernels....I believe they don't do anything as well..And I thinks its placebo effect when people are saying there battery's are better or the screen is smoother....I see not much of a difference even in stock...yes the benchmark may go up but that's means nothing really....
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stated by google employees and disproved by CyanogenMod's Acree
http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile...rooted-android-phones-proven-useless-2013014/
Figured as much but I was hopeful this was a real break threw for android.
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Nothing with that cool of a name can be useless.
But seriously I do notice a clear improvement the moment I turn it on no matter what these people say.
For instance the app I am using to type this on, Tapatalk can lag badly loading forums. I have noticed when the Seeder is turned on this never lags at all. YMMV.
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I. Don't care what android Dev says. It works. I bet it doesn't make much difference on a new device, but on a lower speced device' it does wonders.
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Boy this app is causing some discussion. Running on HP Touchpad on cm9. Battery burns faster, but improvement outways that loss. Works for me.
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mitchellvii said:
Nothing with that cool of a name can be useless.
But seriously I do notice a clear improvement the moment I turn it on no matter what these people say.
For instance the app I am using to type this on, Tapatalk can lag badly loading forums. I have noticed when the Seeder is turned on this never lags at all. YMMV.
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masondoctorjt said:
I. Don't care what android Dev says. It works. I bet it doesn't make much difference on a new device, but on a lower speced device' it does wonders.
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milski65 said:
Boy this app is causing some discussion. Running on HP Touchpad on cm9. Battery burns faster, but improvement outways that loss. Works for me.
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if you didnt happened to read the article, it only improves performance by continuously invoking all cores at the highest clock speed available on your kernel. this IS NOT a good thing.
" the app is forcing the CPU to stick to higher clock frequencies due to the constant I/O use. For many users, the processor running faster offers a smoother experience at the cost of your battery. As many users began to notice, Seeder was causing otherwise full day smartphones to die in four hours."
I read the article a few times. What I got from it is if constantly on, we will see a significant decrease in battery? So, can this decrease the life of the processor or is is it strictly related to battery performance? If just battery performance, I would give that up especially in the evenings when my phone is on a charger when I catch up on all the forums and rom development or searching websites that run videos or load alot of pictures. I can see not using while mobile but if I have a charger readily available I would run this as I am now and seeing significant differences.
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if you didnt happened to read the article, it only improves performance by continuously invoking all cores at the highest clock speed available on your kernel. this IS NOT a good thing.
" the app is forcing the CPU to stick to higher clock frequencies due to the constant I/O use. For many users, the processor running faster offers a smoother experience at the cost of your battery. As many users began to notice, Seeder was causing otherwise full day smartphones to die in four hours."
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So it lowers battery life and thus you say it is USELESS? How about those of us with spare batteries who want performance and don't care about lowered battery life? We want our rigs to scream and this mod seems to help.
Hardly useless. Better to update your OP to say, "If battery life is your number one consideration then this may not be the mod for you, but if you want to phone to run at it's fastest and don't care so much about battery life, you may enjoy this ..."
Users can turn it on when they have access to AC power and turn it off when they are going to be away from the juice for a while.
there are easier ways of boosting performance at the cost of battery life.
Performance governor does the trick just fine. (or setting min/max to the same clock speed.
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there are easier ways of boosting performance at the cost of battery life.
Performance governor does the trick just fine. (or setting min/max to the same clock speed.
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I already do all that. This mod makes it even faster for me.
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I already do all that. This mod makes it even faster for me.
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That's called the placebo effect. The app doesn't do anything beyond keeping your cpu at higher clock speeds.if you're already doing this, then is doing nothing for you.
Tapatalk is a network intensive application. Whatever performance gains you perceive, are likely due to network issues.
I think your quad core phone with 2gb of ram can handle tapatalk.
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finalhit said:
That's called the placebo effect. The app doesn't do anything beyond keeping your cpu at higher clock speeds.if you're already doing this, then is doing nothing for you.
Tapatalk is a network intensive application. Whatever performance gains you perceive, are likely due to network issues.
I think your quad core phone with 2gb of ram can handle tapatalk.
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Please stop trying to tell me what I am experiencing and what I am not. I have been using smart phones for many years. I KNOW whether something is having a real effect or not.
I don't have the Seeder mod turn on by default. The other day after changing out my battery I opened Tapatalk and noticed that it was loading a half page of threads and then hanging. I turned the Seeder mod on and it immediately started loading the entire page. I turned it off and again it lagged.
There is NO DOUBT WHATSOEVER that this mod is making at least certain apps run faster.
The all powerful experts don't say it doesn't work they just say it burns battery (which is fine with me). Please stop projecting your apparent obsession with battery life onto the rest of us.
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So it lowers battery life and thus you say it is USELESS? How about those of us with spare batteries who want performance and don't care about lowered battery life? We want our rigs to scream and this mod seems to help.
Hardly useless. Better to update your OP to say, "If battery life is your number one consideration then this may not be the mod for you, but if you want to phone to run at it's fastest and don't care so much about battery life, you may enjoy this ..."
Users can turn it on when they have access to AC power and turn it off when they are going to be away from the juice for a while.
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i say it is useless because it doesnt do anything you cant already do better. it's being marketed as if it is some new miracle program when it isnt. perseus at 1.8ghz w/ performance gov on will outperform this everyday, simply because the program is writing to your nand constantly, whereas, any kernel overclocked can do this without writing to nand. battery life wasnt really what i was talking about.
i pretty positive the continual writing/erasing of things from your nand is not a good thing and will significantly decrease the life of the emmc/nand on your phone as well as the life of your cpu.
I tried it and It works great on my one. I'm using icy snap 1.5 and it was little bit lagy but now 2x faster than before... :thumbup:
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I thought it was snake oil when I first saw it as well. Such a minor change would have been found long ago. Kinda like you won't see a minor tweak that anyone can do to fuel injectors that will improve gas mileage by 10mpg.
-- "Sensorly or it didn't happen!"
I think I might slap a Vtec sticker on my phone. I'll see if it gives me a performance bump too.
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Please stop trying to tell me what I am experiencing and what I am not. I have been using smart phones for many years. I KNOW whether something is having a real effect or not.
I don't have the Seeder mod turn on by default. The other day after changing out my battery I opened Tapatalk and noticed that it was loading a half page of threads and then hanging. I turned the Seeder mod on and it immediately started loading the entire page. I turned it off and again it lagged.
There is NO DOUBT WHATSOEVER that this mod is making at least certain apps run faster.
The all powerful experts don't say it doesn't work they just say it burns battery (which is fine with me). Please stop projecting your apparent obsession with battery life onto the rest of us.
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Actually, you don't. Even the most experienced developers can't tell if their own applications are running faster specifically due to any one thing just by running them.
To make a causal connection, you not only need to do proper benchmarks, but also understand why.
The mod does have a side effect of keeping your clock speed higher, which can speed up your device...but if you said you've already set your governor to performance, then the mod is doing nothing for you.
And again, tapatalk is a network intensive application. Whatever improvement you see is much ado with network congestion that anything this mod can do.
...but c'mon, really though...tapatalk is your benchmark? My evo shift can handle tapatalk without lag.
Any lag you see in tapatalk is network related. And any improvement you see in tapatalk is network related.
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Oh well. I continue to be amused by the fact that individuals who are not in possession of my phone seem to know better how my phone is performing that I do.
Let me say it again. My phone JUST RUNS FASTER with this mod enabled. Period, end of sentence.
And you claim that SetCPU does exactly what this mod does if I set it at 1.8 performance? But you admit that this mod does it in a completely different way? So how do you know this doesn't add an extra benefit since it is doing something differently? You don't.
You keep talking about how tapatalk is network based and therefore this mod could have no effect. Did you consider that this mod may cause network data to be parsed faster and more efficiently? Image heavy web pages also load faster. The improvement is undeniable.
I promise you I will have sold or thrown away this phone long before the memory gets burned out.
Many many people feel this works for them yet you assume its all in our heads. Its not. Stick to your own head.
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The time I notice the most improvement is after I have been multitasking for a while. Without this mod I have noticed my GN2 kind of bogs down unless I clear memory. With this mod things seem to stay refreshed on their own.
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I'm convinced that by constantly having bowel movements that my toilet flushes faster.
mitchellvii said:
Oh well. I continue to be amused by the fact that individuals who are not in possession of my phone seem to know better how my phone is performing that I do.
Let me say it again. My phone JUST RUNS FASTER with this mod enabled. Period, end of sentence.
And you claim that SetCPU does exactly what this mod does if I set it at 1.8 performance? But you admit that this mod does it in a completely different way? So how do you know this doesn't add an extra benefit since it is doing something differently? You don't.
You keep talking about how tapatalk is network based and therefore this mod could have no effect. Did you consider that this mod may cause network data to be parsed faster and more efficiently? Image heavy web pages also load faster. The improvement is undeniable.
I promise you I will have sold or thrown away this phone long before the memory gets burned out.
Many many people feel this works for them yet you assume its all in our heads. Its not. Stick to your own head.
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The time I notice the most improvement is after I have been multitasking for a while. Without this mod I have noticed my GN2 kind of bogs down unless I clear memory. With this mod things seem to stay refreshed on their own.
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Because it doesn't. It didn't claim to do that. It claims to do one thing and thing only: it keeps /dev/random primed. Read the description of the app.
As a side effect, it keeps your clock "awake" and at a higher level. This is equivalent to switching to performance governor...but doing so in a manual way. (Less efficient way)
I think that's the problem with your over confidence. You are so sure that it's working...You don't even understand what the app does.
And the app definitely has no effect on memory management. Priming /dev/random will do nothing of the sort.
Also,You may not have noticed, I have the same phone as you. Of course, it's possible the app doesn't work for non-believers.
Yes, I know your next argument...it's not placebo because this makes things just seem faster.
I can't argue against that logic, but causality is definitely against you.
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Has any one else experienced worse battery performance with CM10 vs Stock?
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Has any one else experienced worse battery performance with CM10 vs Stock?
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Yes. That tends to be one of the bigger complaints about CM10.
i think cm10 is default tailored more towards performance, you can tweak it or go with a liquid rom if your concern is battery life, i also recomend taking a look at something like this:
http://www.droidxforums.com/forum/droid-x-hacking-guides/14714-how-optimize-battery-life-speed.html
this guy seems to know his stuff, i personally prefer performance over battery life thats why i own a p930 to begin with. but i perform the battery calibration twice a month using his steps, and ive seen it improve my battery life durastically, you might want to start there and tweak according to your needs.
It has been reported that cm10 kernel keeps waking up the phone, i.e. no real deep sleep, causing a more drastic battery drain. work is being done to fix all the bugs with cm10, you may give Quattrimus a try, I found it very good with battery, especially true for rc2 (last version):good:
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I cant edit the post so here is the link to Quattrimus. good luck!
interesting never heard this, since 10.1 releases are starting to come out, the real question now is, have they fixed that bug for 10.1, the answer is probably yes if they were aware of it in 10.0 but it would be nice if someone knows for sure
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Even factory ICS is not as great as Gingerbread. But yeah, running CM10, my P930 feels like a space shuttle ... in that it must remain tethered right until takeoff.
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interesting never heard this, since 10.1 releases are starting to come out, the real question now is, have they fixed that bug for 10.1, the answer is probably yes if they were aware of it in 10.0 but it would be nice if someone knows for sure
edit was just spelling
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I'm still seeing major battery drain in 10.1. Rom is incredibly smooth and very quick with oc kernel bit battery life is terrible just like cm10
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Hutch89 said:
I'm still seeing major battery drain in 10.1. Rom is incredibly smooth and very quick with oc kernel bit battery life is terrible just like cm10
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your probably using it more if you just installed it no? how long have u been testing it
If I had just done a bit more research on CM10 for the Nitro I probably wouldn't have put it on there. Oh well. The good this is that I do have JB now.
DS battery saver provides decent battery life with moderate use. Now all we need are fixes to the kernel/ROM to provide better battery life when actually using the phone because DS battery saver is mainly for screen off.
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KronicSkillz said:
your probably using it more if you just installed it no? how long have u been testing it
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I always use my phone heavily; regardless of testing or not. Ive established a pretty good baseline for how my battery performs with almost every rom available for our device evenly l except cm10+. On most other Roms I can get around two hours of constant use, cm10 half that
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Hutch89 said:
I always use my phone heavily; regardless of testing or not. Ive established a pretty good baseline for how my battery performs with almost every rom available for our device evenly l except cm10+. On most other Roms I can get around two hours of constant use, cm10 half that
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I noticed my phone gets HOT on CM10. Haven't tried any CM10.1 ROMs yet. I'm guessing the kernel needs a bit of tinkering to get it running efficiently with our hardware. Battery drains fast even idling. I don't think the phone ever goes to deep sleep.
It definitely goes deep sleep, according to better battery stats app anyway. I'm really digging cm10.1, especially oc'd using windkernal (scoring 4000+ in quadrant consistently). The nitro is a complete beast right now, but I dunno if I can afford to sacrifice the battery life so drastically for a little performance.
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Hi everybody,
I want to know if we can overclock our Snapdragon 808 to 2GHz (ARM A72 cores) with a modified kernel.
Also, If somebody is going to work on this challenge.
Thanks!!
Androsesp said:
Hi everybody,
I want to know if we can overclock our Snapdragon 808 to 2GHz (ARM A72 cores) with a modified kernel.
Also, If somebody is going to work on this challenge.
Thanks!!
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A57 cluster, probably yes. I'm also working on a kernel, but I intensely dislike Overclocking because it isn't all that useful. The key to performance is with optimisation, not with raw power. So I'm most likely not going to include it, sorry.
What about underclocking and/or undervolting?
I think performance is good enough as it is, but would like to get better battery life.
I would like to be able to undervolt in order to relieve the bugging high temp warning. This phone rarely uses max performance. So, overclocking is not really a priority. Maybe a custom hotplug.
Crappy cpu. No point messing with it.
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GUGUITOMTG4 said:
I would like to be able to undervolt in order to relieve the bugging high temp warning. This phone rarely uses max performance. So, overclocking is not really a priority. Maybe a custom hotplug.
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Hotplugging has been dropped not long ago. You'd basically need to reinvent it. Plus it costs more power than it would save
And what about undervolting to prevent excessive heat, @mythos234?
yea i guess undervolting is the only benefit here coz 2 ghz wont be hard to achieve but getting that overheating msg sooner aint worth it...
next thing u know is accessory back plates with mini fans to keep the phone cool...
seriously tho what good is the extra power for ? the phone is already fast with the correct setup (not that i saw any lag when it was stock)
anyone knows how to see the cpu binning in this phone?
oile said:
And what about undervolting to prevent excessive heat, @mythos234?
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Excessive Heat?
mythos234 said:
Excessive Heat?
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A number of people have gotten over-temperature messages, sometimes with the phones even shutting down.
This has been reported with using navigation, I believe, and I know people have reported it when shooting video. High screen brightness is likely a contributor. But there are examples of the phones running too warm.
Personally, I'd be more interested in cooler running, and longer battery life, rather than increased peak performance. So underclocking, if anything.
Well, the overclocking is not necessary, but is an opportunity to know the limits of the chipset. Moreover, with it we could know if we can make undervolting to our phones and make it more battery efficient with an underclocking kernel, when we need it.
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A number of people have gotten over-temperature messages, sometimes with the phones even shutting down.
This has been reported with using navigation, I believe, and I know people have reported it when shooting video. High screen brightness is likely a contributor. But there are examples of the phones running too warm.
Personally, I'd be more interested in cooler running, and longer battery life, rather than increased peak performance. So underclocking, if anything.
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Happens to me too when gaming. The problem I observe is that Indeed, it is not excessive heat. But LG thinks otherwise.
You can actually underclock using Kernel Auditor and disable cores. Unless you meant Undervolting.
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Excessive Heat?
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Wanna check out periscope and comment back ? Atleast I know that app will push the phone to its limits.
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Currently using Kernel Adiutor to disable both A57 cores and the phone screen does not heat up like before... Battery life has improved from what i saw yersterday. Continuing testing today. Only problem i have is the damn phone will enable one of the A57 cores after a while which i dont like. I need my settings to stick.
Any Kernel Dev know which files are causing this? Tab 3 had something like this but a couple of files changed solved the non sticking settings on cpu.
Overclocking/underclocking sure but just disabling cores would work for most.
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mythos234 said:
Excessive Heat?
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lol, you're funny.
marcadam said:
lol, you're funny.
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I haven't had any popups or heat related reboots, so I was wondering what the matter is here.
On every phone I see complaints over heat so I wondered if something is to it here or if it's the usual. And if there are overheating warnings and shutdowns, then there might be indeed something in the bush.
Try charging your phone in the car whilst using google maps to get to an important meeting, and then take a call just for good measure............and boom, there you have your own little meltdown.
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Try charging your phone in the car whilst using google maps to get to an important meeting, and then take a call just for good measure............and boom, there you have your own little meltdown.
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That happens on every phone I ever had though. It's advised to not use a device while charging at all, so if you stress it to 120% while charging, of course it heats up..
@mythos234 is a pleasure to have you here (speaking as xiaomi mi2s owner too xD)
What Temps do you reach using cpu intensive apps?