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"There will be no specific updates coming for the HTC One X to improve battery"

"There will be no specific updates coming for the HTC One X to improve battery"
...say HTC.
It can all be found here at techradar.phones
Well what do you guys think? Are you satisfied by the battery considering the HOX's demanding setup? Mine lasts around ten hours with moderate to heavy use. Which is similar to my last phone, the SGS i9000. I found this quite acceptable.
HTC are a very reputable company, and often listen to their consumers (hence HTCdev). Is this latest move a shy away from that?
Would be great to hear everyones thoughts.

then...time to wait for mugen
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More than happy with mine. 2 days on battery with average use. 3 hours screen time during that time, with an hour using sat nav.
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Im happy with mine 8.5 hours mod use data off wen not in use my gs2 lasts 10 galaxy nexus lasts 9 so it aint really that bad plus the screens awesome
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I'm still waiting to see what mine will manage, before the update I had 11 hours. Come off charge this morning and this is what's left...
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The screen is such a power hog!

Eddzz!! said:
The screen is such a power hog!
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It is considering my brightness is on the lowest, and all network is off minus WiFi.
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I'm not having an high end smartphone to constantly be in battery problems.
I consider the battery usage as a real annoying problem with no option to buy extra batteries.
Who buys a smartphone to use as less as possible???
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Happy here with battery life of One X, battery is even better than it was in SGS2. For me at least. Around ~36h battery time while SGS2 ~30 hours when I was using it.

Gawwd why do people expect something with the resolution of a tv, and the same amount of cores of a high end pc, to not take much battery? I think its a bloody miracle these smartphones last longer than 5 minutes! As I've said before, you wouldn't expect a supercar to be economical?
Plus, the battery is an improvement to my dhd , so that is another miracle, considering the extra horsepower behind the one x
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lawrence750 said:
Gawwd why do people expect something with the resolution of a tv, and the same amount of cores of a high end pc, to not take much battery? I think its a bloody miracle these smartphones last longer than 5 minutes! As I've said before, you wouldn't expect a supercar to be economical?
Plus, the battery is an improvement to my dhd , so that is another miracle, considering the extra horsepower behind the one x
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Where's the like button? I really do wonder what people expect. Get a Motorola if you want the battery to last you for a week.

More than happy with the battery life of the handset. Lasts me from when I leave home in the morning till when I get home at night and then some. Beats having to charge my phone during the day like on my DHD.
People need to get used to charging their phone every night, really don't understand people's issues with that. What's the big deal?
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I know!!! My DHD is on the charger every night! It doesn't bother me

Why would they? It's fine.
To all the "glass half empty" whining types. You guys do know these things charge from USBs right. I got a great solution; plug it in when its running low.
Besides, the battery life is staggeringly good if you think about it. Mine lasts 2 days for simple calling and texting here and there and a whole day for quite heavy usage, browsing, YouTube, calls and so on. 18hours total, 4-4.5 hours screen on, 40/50mb data and 1.5 hours of calls yesterday, put it away at 1%, still not dead 2 hours of standby later.

Mine's OK, not great. I really didn't expect it to be. It'll be interesting to see how the S4 One XL does now that it's shipping. If it's about the same (with LTE off) than it's not a Teg3 issue. If it's dramatically better than we know it's not the display alone causing battery challenges.

I think that no update coming anytime soon is acceptable but no update AT ALL?
Im sorry but f*** that! Why can't they focus abit on the battery, some simple things would be to have less CRAP and bloatware, maybe if they could release 2 versions 1. simplified with the sense camera ONLY and rest ICS and the other with the full sense package that is really no necessary.
The most important thing to remember is that this a a PHONE to make calls and for that it works nicely and the battery lasts if you keep the screen off most of the time, but for a phone like this that was made to do more things I think you need to at the very least have a battery or a software symbiosis that can last for 8,9 hours of screen time.
Its Tegra 3 for f*** sake! With the super-dupe-triple-super-important-kill core2dou like nothing-quad-core-and a dedicated 5 companion core THAT IS SUPPOSE TO DELIVER KILLER BATTERY LIFE.
What is the problem?
I think there is simply too much Sense on the phone, too many uneceassy widgets and other crap that run in the background (oh you can flash cusom rom bla bla, you can freeze services with Titanium backup bla bla, but what if I want to use a stock rom?) bull**** I say, wih such and advanced CPU and memory and so on I do not see why you cannot have better battery life.
My Samsung Galaxy S2 can work for up to 3 days (ok it has a AMOLED ok ok but still, touchwhiz seems to not over run ICS) On stock ICS. Why? Because they have less 'painted over ICS functions that almost makes it run 2 OS's at the same time so maybe its no wonder the battery gets chewed up by all the sense applications.
This just my opinion from observing the phone and all the fanzy sense stuff after a week.
I believe this phone could be better in terms of software (without a doubt).
One thing they have to adress is the camera, why cant the image files be bigger than 2.9 megapixels? This is so stupid considering it has an 8 mpx camera... Also the full HD and 720p records in the latest firmware 1.28xx at approximately 24 fps and it should be 29 or 30. My Asus Prime records at a steady 30 fps at 1080p and 720p and its running Tegra 3 too.
They MUST at some point focus on battery life because if you dont have the juice to run all those fanzy apps and UI then why are they there in the first place?
I LOVE the weather graphics but I could live without it too (If I absolutely HAVE to....) the only thing necessary is the camera sense app because its the only thing that makes the phone unique and very fun and nice (but again whats the point without proper battery life?)
I hope HTC continues to work on making this one of the best first quad-core phone.
Another thing I noticed with SetCpu is that the phone is very high frequencies very frequently, if you install it and use the phone for a day you will see the graph scale, it uses 1.4 abut 40% of the time, but why? I never played games during this period or anything.
Im gonna keep my 1X because I love it and I believe in it and in the HTCdevs if they cant just be more positive perhaps
Cheers!

farnsbarns said:
Why would they? It's fine.
To all the "glass half empty" whining types. You guys do know these things charge from USBs right. I got a great solution; plug it in when its running low.
Besides, the battery life is staggeringly good if you think about it. Mine lasts 2 days for simple calling and texting here and there and a whole day for quite heavy usage, browsing, YouTube, calls and so on. 18hours total, 4-4.5 hours screen on, 40/50mb data and 1.5 hours of calls yesterday, put it away at 1%, still not dead 2 hours of standby later.
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4-4.5 hrs screen on isn't typical usage that the majority are getting though. Closer to 3 hrs.
It's easier to be quick to judge others when your own device defies the norm for the better.
If you were struggling to get 2.5 hrs , I doubt you'd be as chirpy about it all.

Two words that will help battery life without HTC - "custom kernels"
If you need to see the difference they make just ask in one of faux's threads, e.g. in the Sensation dev forum.

did the update improve the batterie life and if so , does the HOX still run as fast or did things low down ?

Pretty much echo the below , i have had an sgs2 and have an xperia s and this phone with its companion core is at least 33% worse on battery than both of these, and the processor is supposed to be more efficient . The display excuse won't wash much as the xperia s display is at least as bright/power hungry if not more .
I would love to see the exchange / return rates on this handset due to it not living up to its hype , let alone the fault rates.
And i am not whining, i upgraded to one, i like it , i will keep it and maybe one day learn to root it and replace the rom, but lets not kid ourselves its just not a finished polished product in terms of software !
thats my 2p, thanks for reading
james
Johnny0906 said:
I think that no update coming anytime soon is acceptable but no update AT ALL?
Im sorry but f*** that! Why can't they focus abit on the battery, some simple things would be to have less CRAP and bloatware, maybe if they could release 2 versions 1. simplified with the sense camera ONLY and rest ICS and the other with the full sense package that is really no necessary.
The most important thing to remember is that this a a PHONE to make calls and for that it works nicely and the battery lasts if you keep the screen off most of the time, but for a phone like this that was made to do more things I think you need to at the very least have a battery or a software symbiosis that can last for 8,9 hours of screen time.
Its Tegrra 3 for f*** sake! With the super-dupe-triple-super-important-kill core2dou like nothing-quad-core-and a dedicated 5 companion core THAT IS SUPPOSE TO DELIVER KILLER BATTERY LIFE.
What is the problem?
I think there is simply too much Sense on the phone, too many uneceassy widgets and other crap that run in the background (oh you can flash cusom rom bla bla, you can freeze services with Titanium backup bla bla, but what if I want to use a stock rom?) bull**** I say, wih such and advanced CPU and memory and so on I do not see why you cannot have better battery life.
My Samsung Galaxy S2 can work for up to 3 days (ok it has a AMOLED ok ok but still, touchwhiz seems to not over run ICS) On stock ICS. Why? Because they have less 'painted over ICS functions that almost makes it run 2 OS's at the same time so maybe its no wonder the battery gets chewed up by all the sense applications.
This just my opinion from observing the phone and all the fanzy sense stuff after a week.
I believe this phone could be better in terms of software (without a doubt).
They MUST at some point focus on battery life because if you dont have the juice to run all those fanzy apps and UI then why are they there in the first place?
I hope HTC continues to work on making this one of the best and first quad-core phones.
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Been peaking at the SG3 forum...

..and my worst fear has been realised!!!
20hrs, 5hrs screen time! Stock ROM with shipped firmware...heartbreaking stuff...it's no doubt down to that big old battery but thats mouthwatering for a quad core after 1-2 cycles.
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Plastic crap.

dannysmith43 said:
..and my worst fear has been realised!!!
20hrs, 5hrs screen time! Stock ROM with shipped firmware...heartbreaking stuff...it's no doubt down to that big old battery but thats mouthwatering for a quad core after 1-2 cycles.
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Okay the go ahead and sell your one x and get a s but please keep away from here then.
This is one x forum and if you are so happy about the s3 battery post it there.
This is no offense and no hating.
Have to admit it's a pretty good battery life but it has a bigger battery.
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offenberg said:
Plastic crap.
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I had a feel of it today, it's not as bad as the S2, but doesn't feel as premium as the One X...although I read its made of the same shizzle?!
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dannysmith43 said:
..and my worst fear has been realised!!!
20hrs, 5hrs screen time! Stock ROM with shipped firmware...heartbreaking stuff...it's no doubt down to that big old battery but thats mouthwatering for a quad core after 1-2 cycles.
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA
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On min brightness using only wifi or 3g and the other turned off, Gmail on push, email on once a day but with a few manual refreshes and all other syncing off I can get 4 hours. Are you really going to put up with the fantastic plastic and touchwiz for an extra hour?
The question really is, do you need 5 hours of screen time on your phone? Do you use that? If so, get an SGS3, oh and I want your job!

jonas2295 said:
Okay the go ahead and sell your one x and get a s but please keep away from here then.
This is one x forum and if you are so happy about the s3 battery post it there.
This is no offense and no hating.
Have to admit it's a pretty good battery life but it has a bigger battery.
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Ok keep your panties on, just an observation I wanted to share. My HOX is worth £320? and an S3 is £500 new, I cant afford it even if I wanted to.
At the moment I am a One X owner and have a right to post here, be it positive or negative...the HOX has plenty of positive points over the S3 but the battery is not one of them (yet?).
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offenberg said:
Plastic crap.
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The one x is plastic too.

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I don't get it my battery is fine as long as I'm not gaming. I can get 2 days easy and I use my phone a lot as my work calendar is on it. So I'm always checking it.
I use full brightness faccebook, bookmarks, no WiFi, full hspda data, and most of the stock HTC widgets...

dannysmith43 said:
..and my worst fear has been realised!!!
20hrs, 5hrs screen time! Stock ROM with shipped firmware...heartbreaking stuff...it's no doubt down to that big old battery but thats mouthwatering for a quad core after 1-2 cycles.
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA
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Lol, you know the HTC one X can get around 24 Hours screen on time too, Leave it on Minimum brightness, Airplane mode etc. But that's not an accurate representation, and that will be where the S3 also got that screen time.
Now, Put the One X and S3 on chrome Browser home screen or any white background and watch that Piss poor AMOLED suck itself dry.
Personally, I'm very happy I didn't get the S3.

farnsbarns said:
On min brightness using only wifi or 3g and the other turned off, Gmail on push, email on once a day but with a few manual refreshes and all other syncing off I can get 4 hours. Are you really going to put up with the fantastic plastic and touchwiz for an extra hour?
The question really is, do you need 5 hours of screen time on your phone? Do you use that? If so, get an SGS3, oh and I want your job!
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Its a great point, very rarely would I use 5 hours of screen time but who could honestly say they wouldn't want it of you had the option?
I had a little tinker with it today, Touchwiz is a bit cartoony for my taste and the AMOLED colour saturation probably doesn't help but it was super smooth, better than ICS on the S2 fo' sho'
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TommUK said:
Lol, you know the HTC one X can get around 24 Hours screen on time too, Leave it on Minimum brightness, Airplane mode etc. But that's not an accurate representation, and that will be where the S3 also got that screen time.
Now, Put the One X and S3 on chrome Browser home screen or any white background and watch that Piss poor AMOLED suck itself dry.
Personally, I'm very happy I didn't get the S3.
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I've not made my mind up yet about whether I made the right decision, my mate will have 1 soon so we can compare closely.
GSM Area reckons the S3 can do 5.15 hrs browsing the web compared to 4.15 hrs on the HOX, not sure if that's true though.
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There is no stopping mate ... Always better ones will come along ... I saw at GSMArena LG phone wil FullHD with 446 ppi

ShyamSasi said:
There is no stopping mate ... Always better ones will come along ... I saw at GSMArena LG phone wil FullHD with 446 ppi
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That my friend is the truest of statements!
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I get 5 Hours screen time on my HOX. I am impressed with this beauty!

There was someone complaining about the HOX battery the other day in the Q&A forum. I posted pics there of my battery stats. Standard stock setup, not rooted at all. A couple bloatware apps disabled in app settings and haptic feedback turned off, auto brightness on and all accounts set to auto sync switching between WiFi and 3G a lot (wifi left on as I was popping in and out the house all day). Basically straight out the box running latest update. Had over 36 hrs, over 4 hrs screen time, well over an hour voice calls, browsing, using various other apps, and still had 20% battery! So the HOX battery ain't as bad as a lot of people make out. Sure it could be bigger/better, but unless your hammering Tegra games all day or watching movies on it, the battery in the HOX is sufficient.
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JJbdoggg said:
The one x is plastic too.
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i think the point he's making is similar to statements like these from the verge review[/QUOTE]
I’ve never been a fan of plastic being made to look like metal — it feels disingenuous both on the part of the company selling the product and, subsequently, the person owning it — and I find it makes the Galaxy S III look cheap.
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The Galaxy S III doesn’t creak or flex, fit and finish are great. It’s just that the materials used are not of the same tier as the premium stuff you’ll find on Nokia or HTC’s latest.
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The blue version looks like a no-name knockoff phone maker is trying to appear ‘premium’ by faking a brushed metal look with plastic. It’s really unattractive.
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etc etc etc

liberator72 said:
There was someone complaining about the HOX battery the other day in the Q&A forum. I posted pics there of my battery stats. Standard stock setup, not rooted at all. A couple bloatware apps disabled in app settings and haptic feedback turned off, auto brightness on and all accounts set to auto sync switching between WiFi and 3G a lot (wifi left on as I was popping in and out the house all day). Basically straight out the box running latest update. Had over 36 hrs, over 4 hrs screen time, well over an hour voice calls, browsing, using various other apps, and still had 20% battery! So the HOX battery ain't as bad as a lot of people make out. Sure it could be bigger/better, but unless your hammering Tegra games all day or watching movies on it, the battery in the HOX is sufficient.
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I can promise you I don't get anywhere close to that with very similar usage...all my syncs are 2 hours, with WIFI on 100% of the time, only time its not connected os the journey from home to work all of 15 mins...
I would be more than happy with that!!!
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So what if s3 got some onscreen time more than 1x. I could send a screen with 7h onscreen with hox if that makes u feel better
It's not healthy to think "the grass is greener on the other side" xD
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LOL I get at least 3.30 hours of screen time every day with VERY heavy use.
Today when I was at 1% my screen time was 4 hours 30 min and I had been surfing for almost 2 hours.
And that's not even my best, this is the best recorded stats so far -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1579392&page=114
I intend to break those stats btw
I am extremely happy with my HOX and the design and specs of the GS3 were in all honesty a huge disappointment to me.
Said before and am saying it again I am proud to have the best current mobile phone in the world.
Cheers!

dannysmith43 said:
I've not made my mind up yet about whether I made the right decision, my mate will have 1 soon so we can compare closely.
GSM Area reckons the S3 can do 5.15 hrs browsing the web compared to 4.15 hrs on the HOX, not sure if that's true though.
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I doubt those stats to be Honest, it depends on the webpages, but a high percentage of web pages have a white background, and due to the nature of AMOLED it uses more battery (Trying) to reproduce the colour white.
Therefore, I doubt it would have a higher browsing time than the One X, but obviously only a side by side comparison would prove so (not leaving it on a page however, so it would be a very boring test browsing for 5 hours)

Happy owner & don't mind the battery

Just wanted to say thank you to all who participate in this forum as it was always extremely helpful for me over the past couple of years.
I have the One X (European Version) for two weeks now and I think its a great phone! I love HTC Sense (that was a reason to go for the One X and not Samsung S III) and I find that the design, the screen etc gives nothing away to Apple or Samsung (saying this as a happy iPad and MacBook Air owner btw!)!
What bothers me slightly is all the reports about battery life and I thought I add a littlebit to it:
My first mobile was a Siemens S3 with a Ni-MH battery (many moons ago) which lasted me about a day with normal usage. I then (thanks to eBay) had many many many mobiles mainly from Siemens, Nokia, SonyEricsson and lately Apple and HTC.
With the introduction of color screens that got bigger with every new release, I saw my battery time going down. The smartphones were introduced and battery time went down further. I remember my first 3G smartphone (though not what it was) and how shocked I was that I had to charge it in the office as it didn't last a whole day. Then I upgraded to an iPhone 3G and it was only slightly better.
Now I am the proud owner of the One X with a massive screen and a quad-core processor and with medium usage it lasts one (office) day.
Am I unhappy about it? No! The reason for that is that I came to realize that while there were constant developments in smartphone technology, the Li-ion battery development is more or less still where it was about 10 years ago.
I think the battery time is the price to pay for a very very high spec phone until there is a breakthrough with fuel cell batteries and I personally are very happy to pay it esp as most of us have the ability to charge our phones at least twice a day.
Again, thanks to everyone for this great forum!
Chris

Actually a lot have happend in the battery department. We could only have one battery charge a month if we actually had in our phones. If they just could release it to the masses ....

Sckank said:
Actually a lot have happend in the battery department. We could only have one battery charge a month if we actually had in our phones. If they just could release it to the masses ....
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LOL yeah!!, the stupid dimwits dont see the market potential it seems! ;-)

Sckank said:
Actually a lot have happend in the battery department. We could only have one battery charge a month if we actually had in our phones. If they just could release it to the masses ....
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That kind of technology is not ready yet, it is not safe, lithum-ion batteries sometimes blow up destroying itself, taking down whole house in fire so what would happen to the month capacity battery if it fails ? a hand grande type of blow up i think. We cant have this for a reason, more important is how far we can push cpu clock in a given nano-micron technology before it will be too frustrating to charge every now and then.

I think the battery life on the HOX is brilliant. I had a Desire HD before, and I noticed quite a difference moving to the HOX.
I just charge mine over night and it's all good.

Northantrim said:
I think the battery life on the HOX is brilliant. I had a Desire HD before, and I noticed quite a difference moving to the HOX.
I just charge mine over night and it's all good.
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You just said my words, also once the playing time with the shiny gadget decreases the battery time automatically increases.
Coming from a heavily optimized HD2, I used to get 6-7 hours when the phone was used massively, say 1.5-2 hours of screen on time, whereas with a bigger screen and 5 times the processor and faster mind you .. HOX lasts me a day when I keep playing with it (2.5-3hrs of screen on time). Its just an upgradation from 1200 to 1800 mah . Also point to note.. my HOX is un rooted with Sense with all its glory, HD2 was on CM7.
I like to keep my charger with me, at least the cable.. it just gives me a peace of mind.

Northantrim said:
I think the battery life on the HOX is brilliant. I had a Desire HD before, and I noticed quite a difference moving to the HOX.
I just charge mine over night and it's all good.
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Wish I could say the same personally, I could always get a full days use out of my DHD including doing lots of browsing and gaming. Makes me wonder if my battery is faulty

Thanks & agree

I agree but as this thread serves no purpose the mods will close it

+1, I agree.
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I agree but as this thread serves no purpose the mods will close it
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One X still a good phone?

Alright the thread title already says everything.
Is the HTC One X still a good and reliable phone in day to day usage?
Is the Tegra powerfull enough to play current games and get through all daily stuff without problems in form of delays or lags?
Also regarding stock ROMs like CyanogenMod or Paranoid Android, as I'm planning (if I buy that phone) to flash one of these, do they run smooth?
I plan buying the One X because I hate the button layouts of current phones and would be happy to get some opinions.
Thanks in advance!
(If this belongs on the Q&A Thread please move it...)

Everything you said...yes. great phone. I sold my HTC one to come Bk to the x as it just doesn't compare camera etc
All games run sweet
Paranoid etc all smooth..you'll lose camera quality but it still works though
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Nope, not a good phone......it's a friggin' AWESOME phone :laugh::laugh:
Matt

I love the One X, I don't feel any need of buying a new phone this year, it's a reliable phone. I use Sentinel Rom which is an AOSP rom like the ones you mention, I don't like Sense so this has been my daily driver for months, and everything works great, the phone is fast, games run as smoothly as you want them to and so on. My only concerns are the battery and the camera which are.. well, terrible. If you're not in absolute perfect conditions the pictures will be awful, don't even try low light photography, it'll be hurtful, even the flash is useless, you can't get a good photo (it's worth noticing that the results aren't the same with the stock sense camera); and the battery barely lasts a day (by day I mean the moment when you wake up until the moment you go to bed, not 24 hours, 12 hours tops). If you can live with that I strongly advise you to buy this phone. Even more due to his price range which is very mid range and you get a very high end feel phone. The build quality and the screen are outstanding, I'd say that's what it has over his greatest competitor which is the S3. Hope I helped

Yes. And One X>S3.

_RiVeRsIDe_ said:
Yes. And One X>S3.
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I'm aware of that fact!
What about that Wifi issue? Do many devices have that issue or is it only the minority?

Datzi said:
I'm aware of that fact!
What about that Wifi issue? Do many devices have that issue or is it only the minority?
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I owned 2 htc one x, no issues on both.

Datzi said:
I'm aware of that fact!
What about that Wifi issue? Do many devices have that issue or is it only the minority?
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Quite a lot of One X's have that issue, especially if they've upgraded officially to the 3.18 base
If I were you its a no brainer, get the S3 or even better, the Nexus 4
But the S3 has:
Better camera, better audio, smoother gaming performance, micro sd and better development community
The One X has terrible battery, terrible performance in high end games, I mean some games that are supposed to be optimised (thd) lag on this phone (shadowgun for example) and the hyped features like beats audio turned out to be ruined by the HOX's crappy DAC and the so called super 'Tegra 3' turned out be nothing but a heat creating battery sucker
The only things I prefer of the One X is the build quality and excellent screen but tbh that's not really enough to make this phone 'better' than the S3
I'm not hating on the One X, it's probably the phone that I've kept the longest since I've bought it but tbh, it was a disappointment
Feel free to disagree
Sent from my :tank:

Datzi said:
I'm aware of that fact!
What about that Wifi issue? Do many devices have that issue or is it only the minority?
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I also owned 2 One X's and neither of them had Wi-Fi issues. The first one had a gap in between the screen and the body of the phone, it came like that out of the box it made a crack noise every time I touched the display, would like to know what happened with that phone :silly:
One thing I read here that is 100% true is that for the same price you can buy the Nexus 4 which is better in every way, it's something you should consider

Headless_monkeyhunta96 said:
Quite a lot of One X's have that issue, especially if they've upgraded officially to the 3.18 base
If I were you its a no brainer, get the S3 or even better, the Nexus 4
But the S3 has:
Better camera, better audio, smoother gaming performance, micro sd and better development community
The One X has terrible battery, terrible performance in high end games, I mean some games that are supposed to be optimised (thd) lag on this phone (shadowgun for example) and the hyped features like beats audio turned out to be ruined by the HOX's crappy DAC and the so called super 'Tegra 3' turned out be nothing but a heat creating battery sucker
The only things I prefer of the One X is the build quality and excellent screen but tbh that's not really enough to make this phone 'better' than the S3
I'm not hating on the One X, it's probably the phone that I've kept the longest since I've bought it but tbh, it was a disappointment
Feel free to disagree
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lol what are you saying? s3 has compared to one x bad camera and battery in s3 just holds not more then half an hour more then in one x ....gaming...i really don't have problems with gaming now...even with un-optimized games... the one x is way better then s3...but ok you own the s3 so you will say another thing...i already made MANY tests with both...the one x was always better only in speaker volume and battery it was not that good as s3 but ok it's enough...

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lol what are you saying? s3 has compared to one x bad camera and battery in s3 just holds not more then half an hour more then in one x ....gaming...i really don't have problems with gaming now...even with un-optimized games... the one x is way better then s3...but ok you own the s3 so you will say another thing...i already made MANY tests with both...the one x was always better only in speaker volume and battery it was not that good as s3 but ok it's enough...
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Nah lol I don't have S3 (S4), so I should actually be supporting HOX
But seriously battery is way better on the S3, I borrowed my friends one for 2 weeks to see what it was like and on a bloated stock rom with at least 2 hours of gaming, I easily reached 5 and a half hours of screen on time
And come on, everyone knows the HOX flopped when it came to gaming, I mean try and play any gameloft game and it'll lag really badly (Batman, Nova 3, Wild Blood). Real racing 3 on high graphics lags and so does shadowgun. Seriously go download Iron man and tell me it's smooth. Even with Trip's kernel, it was unplayable for me and within ten minutes, CPU hit 75°C
With custom kernels it's fixed a bit but the heat produced is just ridiculous. And the camera of the S3 may not have some of the fancy features of the One X but the quality is quite a bit better
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It is still a great phone... Now that the price had dropped it's a very sweet deal... Any day better than s3....
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There's a basic flaw in all battery comparison posts on this thread. It's only obvious that S3 will have battery life than the HOX simply because the S3 has a large battery capacity - nearly 28% more. Hence, if all else constant, compared to the HOX the S3 should last at least 28% longer assuming both the phones are used in exactly the same way.
It's only fair on HOX to compared to another phone with a similar battery capacity, IMO

The HoX is still an amazingly good phone, no doubt about it.
My other half got a Sony Xperia Z a couple of months ago and there are some obvious hints that Sony's flagship has got some more grunt and has unbelievably good battery life, but the camera and screen are noticeably inferior when compared to the HoX.
I'll be sad when the day comes that I 'upgrade' from my HoX.
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Bought a HTC One a month ago just to give it a try. Great phone, faster than One X, better battery, better sound. For the first couple of weeks, One X sat silently on my desk.
But then, the novelty of One started wearing out and I wanted to sell it before it devalued to much. I've returned to my One X a week ago and I remembered why I love it. It has a GREAT screen, it's light, has a greet feel, it's still damn fast. No need really to upgrade until next year.
@OP: if you can get one for a good price, don't hesitate. Just don't unlock the bootloader (4.2.2 is coming soon) until you test for a while the wi-fi issue that plagues most of the units.

HTC One X is awesome

This phone was a f*ng disappointment of 2012 for me since day one.
You can't have proper live wallpapers (or custom scrollable wallpapers) because some f**head engineer in HTC messed their HTC Sense too much and it consumes way too much RAM.
Battery life just sucks. At first we even had battery drainers inside the operating system (at least THOSE got fixed), the only way I overcome this is by installing HTC One X+ battery.
Look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2189653
After a year of use (primarily putting the phone inside front jeans pocket) that f*ng unibody case gets weary and affects how your digitizer is working. I am lucky that I switched from jeans to a suit and I manager to find a way to prevent unibody flexing (I put the phone in the inside pocket of my jacket now).
Update (JB 4.1) promised to roll out in October makes it out only in December.
Every guy in RL that I met with this phone was also very unhappy. Curious that people at this forum are not like that - but after all, only a small percentage of users use this forum. Plus I really think that people unhappy with this phone very rarely enter the forum (like me).
All in all, if you have to buy a 2012 phone, go with Nexus 4. Better in every detail (except slight disadvantages with the screen maybe).

I was one x user for last one year, at least four of my friends bought one x after seeing mine. With all the hype about HTC one I decided to give it a try, amazing boom sound, full hd screen.
Sold my one x in the process. 1 week and I was missing my one x. Sold HTC one and bought another one x and gonna keep this till it stops working. Fantastic device, excellent build quality, looks good naked.
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Headless_monkeyhunta96 said:
Nah lol I don't have S3 (S4), so I should actually be supporting HOX
But seriously battery is way better on the S3, I borrowed my friends one for 2 weeks to see what it was like and on a bloated stock rom with at least 2 hours of gaming, I easily reached 5 and a half hours of screen on time
And come on, everyone knows the HOX flopped when it came to gaming, I mean try and play any gameloft game and it'll lag really badly (Batman, Nova 3, Wild Blood). Real racing 3 on high graphics lags and so does shadowgun. Seriously go download Iron man and tell me it's smooth. Even with Trip's kernel, it was unplayable for me and within ten minutes, CPU hit 75°C
With custom kernels it's fixed a bit but the heat produced is just ridiculous. And the camera of the S3 may not have some of the fancy features of the One X but the quality is quite a bit better
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RR3 does NOT lag at all, nor does Shadowgun, not even in the slightest. But since Gameloft games are s**t I couldn't give a monkeys. NO game I play on the HOX ever lags. ATM I am enjoying Galaxy on Fire 2 HD, full 3D space combat sim, and it's utterly flawless.
The HOX, even after over a year, continues to impress...and I do NOT have one of the exceedingly rare variant 3's or anything like that. I have the worst of the bunch variant 0 (though I think I am lucky in my particular chip just being binned like that). And my battery is the original.
ONE thing I agree on is that it DOES get hot, but that's more a product of manufacturing process. It's manufactured on TSMC's 40nm high-speed process (the companion core being on the low-power process). This means that at full-tilt it has quite a high leakage (heat and power use) but that clock for clock it's switching speed is far superior than, for example, the S3 which uses a FAR cooler-running 32nm LP process.
Tegra 3 was designed to be performance over power. HTC realised their mistake in pairing it with such a poor battery in the HOX, hence the HOX+.
I am NOT going to say the HOX is without flaw, far from it...but it is an incredibly powerful phone with a quality build and a simply SUPERB screen that continues to hold it's own in every application even after an eternity has passed (and over a year in the smatphone market IS an eternity).
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This phone was a f*ng disappointment of 2012 for me since day one.
You can't have proper live wallpapers (or custom scrollable wallpapers) because some f**head engineer in HTC messed their HTC Sense too much and it consumes way too much RAM.
Battery life just sucks. At first we even had battery drainers inside the operating system (at least THOSE got fixed), the only way I overcome this is by installing HTC One X+ battery.
Look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2189653
After a year of use (primarily putting the phone inside front jeans pocket) that f*ng unibody case gets weary and affects how your digitizer is working. I am lucky that I switched from jeans to a suit and I manager to find a way to prevent unibody flexing (I put the phone in the inside pocket of my jacket now).
Update (JB 4.1) promised to roll out in October makes it out only in December.
Every guy in RL that I met with this phone was also very unhappy. Curious that people at this forum are not like that - but after all, only a small percentage of users use this forum. Plus I really think that people unhappy with this phone very rarely enter the forum (like me).
All in all, if you have to buy a 2012 phone, go with Nexus 4. Better in every detail (except slight disadvantages with the screen maybe).
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I've run every live wallpaper i've liked the look of without one single problem, even on Sense. I just tend to not like live wallpapers but they run just fine so I have no idea what you're on about there.
Battery life under use does NOT suck...the original battery capacity sucks...and I will admit that was one of HTC's few design choices on this device that really did blow. The battery is too small, but Tegra makes excellent use of it considering it's power requirements, and IDLE battery consumption is EXCELLENT. That's what NVIDIA aimed for, and HIT in my mind, maximum performance during user interaction but minimal power draw in idle to compensate.
After over a year of use the bodywork on my uncased (in all that time) and jeans pocketed HOX has NOT fatigued and the screen is in perfect condition.
Finally I would say that the people you are likely to meet on this forum are those people who utilise their phone to it's fullest possible potential. I am not talking about custom ROM's and kernels, I am talking about just USING the device to the maximum. Ordinary Joe and Jane Public tend not to do this and find many things to b*tch and moan about, in MY opinion..which I think is just as valid as your assessment.

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RR3 does NOT lag at all, nor does Shadowgun, not even in the slightest. But since Gameloft games are s**t I couldn't give a monkeys. NO game I play on the HOX ever lags. ATM I am enjoying Galaxy on Fire 2 HD, full 3D space combat sim, and it's utterly flawless.
The HOX, even after over a year, continues to impress...and I do NOT have one of the exceedingly rare variant 3's or anything like that. I have the worst of the bunch variant 0 (though I think I am lucky in my particular chip just being binned like that). And my battery is the original.
ONE thing I agree on is that it DOES get hot, but that's more a product of manufacturing process. It's manufactured on TSMC's 40nm high-speed process (the companion core being on the low-power process). This means that at full-tilt it has quite a high leakage (heat and power use) but that clock for clock it's switching speed is far superior than, for example, the S3 which uses a FAR cooler-running 32nm LP process.
Tegra 3 was designed to be performance over power. HTC realised their mistake in pairing it with such a poor battery in the HOX, hence the HOX+.
I am NOT going to say the HOX is without flaw, far from it...but it is an incredibly powerful phone with a quality build and a simply SUPERB screen that continues to hold it's own in every application even after an eternity has passed (and over a year in the smatphone market IS an eternity).
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RR3 doesn't lag on stock low graphics setting but as soon as you set it at high where it isn't an eyesore, the fps is bearable but is only about 25fps dropping to about 16 in heavy scenarios.
And sorry mate but your simply wrong, even hamdir stated that shadowgun lags and was complaining about how an 'optimised' game doesn't even run well on the HOX. It's not like it runs constantly at low fps but on too many an occasion it drops way below playable for a few seconds during gameplay
And Gameloft may have some terrible customer service and support but they have produced some really good games which I can't enjoy on the One X - Nova 3, Dark Knight and Wild Blood to name a few
And your telling me no absolutely no game lags? That's a bit of a joke considering it's well known how Nvidia put a sh*tty GPU alongside the excellent Tegra 3 processor otherwise. Go and play NFS Most Wanted, GTA Vice City, Dungeon Hunter, Dead on Arrival 2, RR3 on HIGH graphics, etc, etc. and then come back and talk
Man I'm not just hating on the One X for no reason, but sometimes you just have to face facts, the One X disappointed in many areas.
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[IME/EXO][DISKUSSION] HTC U12+/Exodus 1 - Battery life / SoT Thread

Greetings,
this thread shall help us to discuss the overall experiences with battery life / SoT of our all new HTC U12+ (ime)/Exodus 1 (exo). As I'm receiving my demo unit soon, I'll start uploading screenshots of my personal battery life here, as you can do as well, as soon as you got your HTC U12+.
5m4r7ph0n36uru

Here's one impressive screen shot of @mrjwilliams that can also be found on Twitter.
Uptime 2d 12h 43m
Left 15%
SoT. 4h 39m
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So much for all the reviews that just talk about a reasonable battery consumption. Indeed, the consumption is really very impressive - in a positive sense, of course!

5m4r7ph0n36uru said:
So much for all the reviews that just talk about a reasonable battery consumption. Indeed, the consumption is really very impressive - in a positive sense, of course!
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I'm really hoping that in paying homage to the M9's hard edge around the screen, they also aren't paying homage to the M9's horrid battery life as well. The reviews all seem to say that the battery life is bad.

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I'm really hoping that in paying homage to the M9's hard edge around the screen, they also aren't paying homage to the M9's horrid battery life as well. The reviews all seem to say that the battery life is bad.
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Reviews give you the battery life after the first 48 hoirs which is never great. The picture above shows it after a week of usage though. That's what's interesting, bit no blog and Tech review cares about doing it right nowadays.
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5m4r7ph0n36uru said:
Reviews give you the battery life after the first 48 hoirs which is never great. The picture above shows it after a week of usage though. That's what's interesting, bit no blog and Tech review cares about doing it right nowadays.
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Yep. I really don't pay battery talk from reviewers any attention. Most of these reviewers live inside the camera during their review period which murders battery compared to just using the phone like regular people do. Simulated battery test aren't realistic either.

5m4r7ph0n36uru said:
Reviews give you the battery life after the first 48 hoirs which is never great. The picture above shows it after a week of usage though. That's what's interesting, bit no blog and Tech review cares about doing it right nowadays.
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Yep. I really don't pay battery talk from reviewers any attention. Most of these reviewers live inside the camera during their review period which murders battery compared to just using the phone like regular people do. Simulated battery test aren't realistic either.
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I agree for the most part, however Android Central is claiming they've had theirs for a week. On the flipside, a near 3500mah battery should be more than enough to go a day on a charge, even for a heavy user like myself. I mean, the Essential was the only Android phone that I can recall owning that would go a day for me, and it was only 3000mah. Sense is nearly as clean, the 845 is reputed to be a battery sipper, and another 500mah is another 500mah, so I'm hoping you're both right.

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I agree for the most part, however Android Central is claiming they've had theirs for a week. On the flipside, a near 3500mah battery should be more than enough to go a day on a charge, even for a heavy user like myself. I mean, the Essential was the only Android phone that I can recall owning that would go a day for me, and it was only 3000mah. Sense is nearly as clean, the 845 is reputed to be a battery sipper, and another 500mah is another 500mah, so I'm hoping you're both right.
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Well you're that screenshot if mrjwilkiams posted above, didn't you!? So unless Android Central didn't do anything wrong, they should have gained the same at least.
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OGhoul said:
I agree for the most part, however Android Central is claiming they've had theirs for a week. On the flipside, a near 3500mah battery should be more than enough to go a day on a charge, even for a heavy user like myself. I mean, the Essential was the only Android phone that I can recall owning that would go a day for me, and it was only 3000mah. Sense is nearly as clean, the 845 is reputed to be a battery sipper, and another 500mah is another 500mah, so I'm hoping you're both right.
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Is the SD845 a battery sipper though? Most phones with it haven't had the best numbers. OP6 performs around the exact same as the 5T despite the newer processor. The S9/S9+ have worse numbers than the S8/S8+ with the same battery sizes. XZ2 has a larger battery than the XZ1 but the improvement in battery life is pretty much equal to the size increase. I think this is another bad snapdragon year in the making.
It could be Oreo though because my numbers went down as soon as my 10 got it. The whole story will develop as time passes.

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Well you're that screenshot if mrjwilkiams posted above, didn't you!? So unless Android Central didn't do anything wrong, they should have gained the same at least.
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It could be the that the Twitter user was a very light user, or used power saving before 15%. I'm trying to argue it, I'd really prefer his numbers to be the norm rather than the outlier.
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Is the SD845 a battery sipper though? Most phones with it haven't had the best numbers. OP6 performs around the exact same as the 5T despite the newer processor. The S9/S9+ have worse numbers than the S8/S8+ with the same battery sizes. XZ2 has a larger battery than the XZ1 but the improvement in battery life is pretty much equal to the size increase. I think this is another bad snapdragon year in the making.
It could be Oreo though because my numbers went down as soon as my 10 got it. The whole story will develop as time passes.
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I said the 845 is supposed to be a sipper. I don't have one (yet) to personally test. I believe if this year is another dud year for Qualcomm, this could spell disaster for HTC. I dunno about Oreo being the culprit (overall); my girlfriend got 8.1 on her Essential and she hasn't complained about battery life (and believe me, she'd let me know). My fingers are crossed though.
Make no mistake though, I really do want the U12+ to meet my (IMO) reasonable expectations.

This is my battery stats! 70% time on WiFi 30% LTE. Battery drain is unusually high on LTE. Location off unless required Bluetooth sync off.

This is my first personal stats. 60% Wi-Fi, 40% 4G, BT on all time with a Smartwatch connected.
Listened to some music via USonic ANC Headset, streaming a few videos, browsing, mailing, XDA of course. After the first 58 hours up-time (so this being only the second full run) I'm pretty impressed of what I got
24h, 5h SoT
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Important piece of information, do you guys use Always On Display?

I thought the u12 doesn't use that feature?

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Important piece of information, do you guys use Always On Display?
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Yes I do.
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RyuujiTakasu said:
I thought the u12 doesn't use that feature?
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It does use it. But I couldn't find the adjustments in the settings menu yet, thus are running the out of the box standard setup.
Edit: nevermind just been blind. Found it.
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Can you try use phone for full charge without that feature?Lets see battery difference, after all its LCD not AMOLED.

My unlocked Galaxy S9+ is currently at about 29% with around 1:37 screen on time.....

Out of the box
Start at 80%
Setup and play with everything
screen on 4 hours and 24 minutes.
Go to bed 23:45 battery 24%
Wake up 05:45 battery 23%
Battery life is great for me.
I no it has to settle .
Anyway very happy with the result till now.
Grtz decodertje

Actually, feels like battery life decreases after the first day of use. It's understandable because of added apps. I charge it from 20-30 up to 80-90 (battery health squad). It gives me 4 hours of screen-on time. And I charge the phone only once a day with heavy usage. The major factor is screen brightness which drains battery damn fast when over 50%