Wow, I do really hate my Wi-Fi controls on my sprint phone and am hoping someone knows of a simple setting I have not found yet.
When I leave my house I turn off Wi-fi yet sometimes when I am out and I look at my phone, it comes back on. I think it does this when a wi-fi network is nearby??? The phone asks me to setup a wi-fi hotspot even though I don't pay for the service (although I have rooted my phone and tried to get it working through an app). But what aggravates me the most about it is that the wi-fi will turn on and if it isn't connected to a network, it will cause issues with things like Google Play. With wi-fi on and no network to connect to, Google Play won't be able to search and reports a connection problem. Most times I don't pay attention to it being on or off because I know I've turned it off.
I am not sure if this behavior is normal, this didn't happen with my HTC EVO I had. On that phone, wi-fi stayed off until I turned it back on.
I've looked and can't find any settings that might help me figure out how to eliminate this behavior. Anyone?
First questions go in Q&A
Second, turn off the Sprint Optimizer in settings>more>mobile networks>automatic connections.
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It is the Sprint Connections Optimizer that is doing that. It will turn WiFi on even after you have turned it off. You can disable the Connections Optimizer in Settings > More Settings > Mobile Networks. Some have reported that this feature will also re-enable itself. I have seen that happen. I used Titanium Backup to freeze the Sprint Connections Optimizer app and I no longer have to fight to keep WiFi off when I want it off.
aside from this small annoyance, Can anyone say if this is a battery drainer or not?
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aside from this small annoyance, Can anyone say if this is a battery drainer or not?
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I don't think it makes much difference on the battery. It's just annoying, like you said. I turned it off (unchecked the box) from the Mobile Networks and it went away. You really don't need that option cuz it will change whenever there the data coverage changes anyways.
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Is there a setting I'm missing somewhere? When I manually turn WiFi off when I get to work I'll look down some time later and the phone will have turned WiFi back on by itself. I'm not sure how long this takes, but so far I'm having no luck finding a setting that would affect this. I didn't have this problem on my EVO 4G, so does anyone have any idea why this is happening. I've got a Sprint S3, btw.
Sprint Connection Optimizer I think is causing your problem...not sure where the setting is since my 32Gb is lost in Sprint/Samsung Limbo, but look under network settings I think.
Settings> more settings>mobile networks>automatic connections> uncheck sprint automatic connections
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Actually, I'll try that, but I think it may have actually been the "Network Notification" under the Wifi advanced settings. You can't change that setting when Wifi is off, but it remains checked if Wifi is manually turned off, so I wonder if there's a bug where Wifi will turn back on to to fulfill the network notification function.
So far, since turning that option off I haven't had the issue, but I'll keep an eye out. Either way, thanks for pointing out the Sprint Automatic Connections location, I couldn't find it to save my life. I'll leave it enabled for now, to see if the network notification setting actually fixes the issue.
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Here's a screenshot of how Sprint describes their Sprint Connections Optimizer. I wonder how much this monitors our use of WiFi Tether on rooted devices and reports it back to Sprint. Probably safer to leave unchecked until we know more from the developers on what it actually records and submits.
I'd love to see a thread on all the Sprint bloatware and which ones can be safely removed with Titanium Backup without disabling any major functionality like visual voice mail.
yea, i see this "solution" all over. it does not work, my optimizer is off, i go into menu with *#0011# and shut off wifi power mode. neither work, it just keeps coming on "while im driving" and kicks me off of my internet radio. any other suggestion im willing to try. i dont want to root this phone just to keep wifi off.
If you have any remembered wifi connections forget them so your phone can't auto connect and if the sprint optimizer connections has been disabled then it's weird that wifi keeps triggering. Because wifi shouldn't auto connect to found hotspots automatically.
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yea, i see this "solution" all over. it does not work, my optimizer is off, i go into menu with *#0011# and shut off wifi power mode. neither work, it just keeps coming on "while im driving" and kicks me off of my internet radio. any other suggestion im willing to try. i dont want to root this phone just to keep wifi off.
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Are you rooted? If so, use Titanium Backup to freeze the connection optimizer.
I have 4g turned off since it's not in my area. However every once in awhile or will turn itself back on and kill my battery. Not sure why. I was hoping some one here knew. And a quick way to be sure it's off with a widget or something.
Thanks.
There's a setting that automatically connects you to a data service if it's nearby.
(Not sure if it works with 4G since I don't have it but the phone was doing the same thing to me with WiFi in my house)
Go to Settings-More...-Mobile Networks-Connection Optimizer and uncheck that box
Hopefully that helps
Thanks for the reply. However I have connection optimizer off already. I've noticed that other things randomly turn themselves back on and not sure why. Like facebook decided to turn on all alerts and options the app has. Hasn't done that in weeks now, but the lte is the biggest drain and has turned itself on every 2 weeks or so.
I'm thinking I might do a reset on the phone bit don't want to loose a few settings and games scores. Not rooted and not sire if I will so TB is not an option.
Does anyone know how to stop the WiFi from turning on automatically ? I have all of the options for the WiFi off and I'll turn the WiFi of but my WiFi will still turn on and say there is a hotspot available.
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Does anyone know how to stop the WiFi from turning on automatically ? I have all of the options for the WiFi off and I'll turn the WiFi of but my WiFi will still turn on and say there is a hotspot available.
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You mean the options under Advanced in Wi-Fi settings you have off right? If so I am not sure I have not noticed my Wi-Fi coming on without me hitting the toggle.
Yes all the settings in advanced are unchecked,I will turn off my WiFi and next thing ya know I'm getting a notification that there is a hotspot available and sure enough my WiFi is on again! Its starting to get annoying that I get the hotspot notification all the time
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Yes all the settings in advanced are unchecked,I will turn off my WiFi and next thing ya know I'm getting a notification that there is a hotspot available and sure enough my WiFi is on again! Its starting to get annoying that I get the hotspot notification all the time
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That is odd, one of the options under advanced is to make it so it does not try to connect to hot spots in general, also the other says to make it not scan while Wi-Fi is off. If both those are unchecked and it is still happening then there is some sort of issue I would guess. Hopefully someone else with the issue pops in here after a bit.
Me too
Yes, this is happening to my Note 4 as well. All settings in WiFi>Advanced are "off" and when I go walking through the neighborhood and turn on the phone I get a screen showing a list of wi-fi networks.
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Does anyone know how to stop the WiFi from turning on automatically ? I have all of the options for the WiFi off and I'll turn the WiFi of but my WiFi will still turn on and say there is a hotspot available.
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Im gonna guess everyone has saw this already but thought i would post it anyway. In the advanced menu in wifi,there is a section called Always Allow Scanning. Description says "Let google location service and other applications scan for wifi networks, even when wifi is off". Sounds as if that could be the issue but if everything is already unchecked in the advanced settings menu, then im at a loss as well. Im gonna test this on my Note 4 and see if i am getting the same issue you guys are getting.
Nope no issues here i don't get that i turned it off, and i would know this cause if i walk in Walmart i use to get that on the the Wifi Hotspot not no more since i've turned it off, use to tell me the same for kmart or the AT&T Store where i live no more since i've turned it off!
Try disabling AT&T Smart Wifi. Could be the cause, especially if its alerting you to "hotspots".
I have the T Mobile version and it does the same. The white menu pops up telling that there is Wi Fi available, listing hotspots.
On my previous Note 3, it did not present itself as a page over my screen even if I had Wi Fi turned on. I simply had notifications of available wi fi's turned off. But it seems with the Note 4 one has to turn off wi fi completely for this to not show up?
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Does anyone know how to stop the WiFi from turning on automatically ? I have all of the options for the WiFi off and I'll turn the WiFi of but my WiFi will still turn on and say there is a hotspot available.
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Check in Location Services... Specifically the google stuff. One of them allows the use of your WiFi & GPS data even if they are turned off... Meaning if you choose the high accuracy mode (instead of GPS only) the location services will periodically turn those things on to better pinpoint your location (and send that data back to google)
I've read (and THINK I understand) what smart switch is supposed to do (going all the way back to the Note4.
And it seems like the complete opposite of what wifi calling does.
Anyone care to explain the difference or real reasons one is used over the other?
Also on a related note, in the developer options category there is an option to turn on "Aggressive Wi-Fi cell h.."
With the explanation "switch from wifi to mobile networks more quickly when wifi signal is weak"
Kind of self explanatory and my question would be real work use. If you have unlimited data, any reason you would NOT want to check this?
Unless this just sounds great, but doesn't work well......
Thoughts?
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I've read (and THINK I understand) what smart switch is supposed to do (going all the way back to the Note4.
And it seems like the complete opposite of what wifi calling does.
Anyone care to explain the difference or real reasons one is used over the other?
Also on a related note, in the developer options category there is an option to turn on "Aggressive Wi-Fi cell h.."
With the explanation "switch from wifi to mobile networks more quickly when wifi signal is weak"
Kind of self explanatory and my question would be real work use. If you have unlimited data, any reason you would NOT want to check this?
Unless this just sounds great, but doesn't work well......
Thoughts?
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Smart switch imports the data from your old phone when you switch to a Samsung phone; WiFi calling routes voice traffic over WiFi when available.
Sorry, I meant to say Smart NETWORK Switch. It says your phone will be connected to a mobile network if Wifi becomes unstable.
And Wi-fi calling kinda of says the exact opposite. If mobile becomes unstable, it will switch to Wifi......
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Many times.. even when the wifi signal is weak, as long as wifi is turned on, the phone will remain connected to it. This especially happens when you are just pulling out of your house and you are trying to get to google maps for directions or something.. but because the phone is still connected to your home wifi, it'll remain so and since the connection is weak, you won't be able to browse or anything and google maps may say "no network connection".
I believe what Smart Network Switch does, is that in such cases, it'll immediately switch to mobile data.
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Many times.. even when the wifi signal is weak, as long as wifi is turned on, the phone will remain connected to it. This especially happens when you are just pulling out of your house and you are trying to get to google maps for directions or something.. but because the phone is still connected to your home wifi, it'll remain so and since the connection is weak, you won't be able to browse or anything and google maps may say "no network connection".
I believe what Smart Network Switch does, is that in such cases, it'll immediately switch to mobile data.
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This happens to me every morning in my driveway trying to route Waze. I get a weak wifi signal that the phone hangs onto and I get a no network error from Waze.
I have a question. I have "keep WIFI on during sleep" option set to "Never".
When I wake up my phone from sleep after 30 minutes or more of not using it, the wifi does not reactivate itself (it's off, no icon in statusbar), but when I go to settings, it says that Wifi is enabled. Just like in the picture below...
I want to know if this is normal or what? Happens to me on both stock and custom rom.
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I fixed this by putting my Wi-Fi frequency band from 2.4 GHz to "Automatic" in advanced wifi settings. Htc and google really need to fix their ****!
I also disabled ipv6 in my router settings, not sure if that helped
Sadly for you, it works as expected for me. I let my phone sit for about 40 mins hoping I wouldn't get a text. Picked it up and the Wi-Fi turned on and connected right away.
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Sadly for you, it works as expected for me. I let my phone sit for about 40 mins hoping I wouldn't get a text. Picked it up and the Wi-Fi turned on and connected right away.
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This is just plain weird for me. Not a real problem, but strange, maybe has something to do with my wifi connection (router).
Thanks for the reply!
Just confirmed that one other guy that just got the phone has the same issue.
I fixed this by putting my Wi-Fi frequency band from 2.4 GHz to "Automatic" in advanced wifi settings. HTC and google really need to fix their ****!
I also disabled ipv6 in my router settings, not sure if that helped
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I fixed this by putting my Wi-Fi frequency band from 2.4 GHz to "Automatic" in advanced wifi settings. HTC and google really need to fix their ****!
I also disabled ipv6 in my router settings, not sure if that helped
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I have had the WiFi Frequency Band set to Automatic since I got the HTC 10. I came looking for this topic because of what mine does. When I wake up the screen, there is often a message on the screen "wifi has disconnected", and it will show connected to mobile data in the notification bar. It usually will reconnect to WiFi within a few seconds. But it is annoying, so I am looking for a fix, if there is one. I turned on the setting to keep it on WiFi during sleep a couple days ago, but it didn't change this behavior.
From what I am reading here, this sounds like it is common to the HTC 10 regardless of that setting. I am therefore thinking perhaps the "wifi has disconnected" message is actually left over and still on the display from when I turned the display off? But what I don't understand is that I get notifications such as incoming email and hangouts messages while the display is still sleeping. Unless those are coming via the mobile data connection. Perhaps I should try turning off mobile data and leaving wifi on to test if it still does that, but obviously leaving the mobile radio connection off is not desireable, even if that did help. Does the HTC 10 silently always switch to a mobile connection and turn off wifi whenever the screen is off, meaning that keep wifi on setting is flawed?
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I have had the WiFi Frequency Band set to Automatic since I got the HTC 10. I came looking for this topic because of what mine does. When I wake up the screen, there is often a message on the screen "wifi has disconnected", and it will show connected to mobile data in the notification bar. It usually will reconnect to WiFi within a few seconds. But it is annoying, so I am looking for a fix, if there is one. I turned on the setting to keep it on WiFi during sleep a couple days ago, but it didn't change this behavior.
From what I am reading here, this sounds like it is common to the HTC 10 regardless of that setting. I am therefore thinking perhaps the "wifi has disconnected" message is actually left over and still on the display from when I turned the display off? But what I don't understand is that I get notifications such as incoming email and hangouts messages while the display is still sleeping. Unless those are coming via the mobile data connection. Perhaps I should try turning off mobile data and leaving wifi on to test if it still does that, but obviously leaving the mobile radio connection off is not desireable, even if that did help. Does the HTC 10 silently always switch to a mobile connection and turn off wifi whenever the screen is off, meaning that keep wifi on setting is flawed?
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No. You probably have "Auto-switch to mobile network" enabled in advanced wifi settings.
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No. You probably have "Auto-switch to mobile network" enabled in advanced wifi settings.
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Thank you for replying. The only 3 boxes I have checked in WiFi > Advanced are as follows:
WiFi Notification
Show Wi-Fi pop-up
Hotspot sign-in
All the other check boxes are blank.
So I have similar problem. When I leave the house it switches to mobile network just fine. When I come back home it doesn't auto connect until I turn on the screen. My advanced wifi settings are below with basically nothing checked.
I agree this is a serious problem and for me I have no mobile network at home and depend on wifi and hangouts for voice calls.
Just curious what firmware is everyone on? Mine is 1.91.617.1.
This thread discusses it quite a bit, mentioning different settings changes to try.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/help/wifi-issues-htc-10-weak-signal-fail-t3368165
I tried some of these changes, and things seemed better today for awhile, until I found out my phone actually wasn't getting the internet over the solid WiFi connection to my network. :/ I had to undo all the changes so I could get back online with it.
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I fixed this by putting my Wi-Fi frequency band from 2.4 GHz to "Automatic" in advanced wifi settings. HTC and google really need to fix their ****!
I also disabled ipv6 in my router settings, not sure if that helped
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Interesting. Mine was already on Automatic. I never touched it.