I've been looking at these two products for my sprint galaxy s3 and I have some specific questions. I did lots of searching and I hope what I know so far is right if not please correct me. Both of these are the qi standard. I also believe the Powermat I already own is qi standard.
The verizon back cover will work for charging but the nfc will not work with it.
The Powermat is a case that fits completely over the phone. Does mhl and nfc still work with this case?
What mah do these charge at?
Anyone who owns these would you please test this out for me. I am trying to decide what to buy.
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I have used this case and the NFC does not work with the case. The MHL adapter will not work with the case. The case charges at 1amp I think.
Hope thus helps.
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powermat and qi products are not currently interoperable with each other especially the older ones. if you have a powermat charger, you need to get a powermat receiver (they sell the backing on amazon and from their official store).
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Thanks for the info. I called Powermat and the Rep (who sounded clueless) said nfc and mhl will not work with the case. He also said Powermat is not qi compatible. However, I read a review on Amazon that said nfc tags work with it. So i went on ahead and ordered it. Since i really liked this on my evo. I just wish i could of got it in blue. I will be testing the nfc, mhl, and otg when I get it Thursday. If anyone else has questions about anything else let me know and I will test it and or give pics.
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What are you wanting to do, wireless charge via qi. I use energizer 3 position charger $24.00 ebay with Verizon back. The Verizon back is both nfc and wireless charger. Only Verizon phones have extra contacts for nfc to work through the door. The batteries must be nfc compatible also. There are posts of people moding a cheap door $5.00 with a palm charger less $15.00 and using it to wireless charge. But the qi is supposed to be getting an update that will charge at a larger distance thus thicker cases should be able to be charged through. I love the qi. Good luck
Powermat not compatible
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even the qi receivers you get off ebay that fit underneath the battery door work w/ NFC. It's up to you though. Check the 2nd post in the qi wireless charging thread stickied in this forum. I have a video showing the qi receiver I have and also that it works w/ NFC
I think you are making a better choice for wireless charging but I already own a Powermat so I would like to keep using it. It might not be the best but It always works and works well. I already sucked it up and ordered my Powermat case i will get it tomorrow and tell you guys how it goes.
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if it charges, it charges. I guess that's all there is to say to it.
The powermat case you get should work just fine w/ the transmitter that you have. You're a-ok imo
Well here is my review. I have been using the powermat case for awhile now and over all im disappointed. Otg and mhl does not work. It doesnt even want to connect to the computer through a USB cable. When I did get it to connect it didnt want to transfer anything. As far as nfc it sometimes works. The case is pushing up my screen protector on the bottom of my phone and I have a zagg screen protector which is a really nice one. It cost me fifty dollars when I got my phone. I case is hard to put on and off which wouldnt be such a big dill except I end up taking it off all the time to connect things to my phone.
About the only good things about it is... it is a hole case so thats nice if you drop it but the case its self is not very durable. I already have many scratches all over it. it does charge my phone well and seems to charge just as fast as my usb charger that came with my phone.
I think there's some other things im forgetting but I think you get my point. I will keep this since I already have it and my mat from my evo but I dont think I will be buying any more powermat products.
Ps I dont really mind the white case on my blue phone but some might. They dont make any other color yet.
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Here is my review video! I am a huge fan of the palm touchstone wireless charging mod and this is the best way to get it...
http://youtu.be/NGvyWBOQy0U
Nice, couple questions.
Do you use a case? I have an Otterbox Commuter and was wondering if that is thin enough to still register.
Also, will that back cover work on the Energizer Qi charging system?
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Thanks for the video!, few questions tho:
Does it work with a case (I imagine this will be a popular question)
Is the quality of the back cover noticeable different to the stock back cover? Or is it a completely stock totally 100% the same back cover with the wireless charging mod?
And what charging pad do you recommend?
Unfortunately I do not use cases as I just use a clear shield so I have no idea if it works with otterbox or any case.
This mod will not work with any pad. It will only work with the Palm Touchstone. I dont recco any pad as I only recco the touchstone. I like having one in my car, at the office and one on the nightstand.
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Unfortunately I do not use cases as I just use a clear shield so I have no idea if it works with otterbox or any case.
This mod will not work with any pad. It will only work with the Palm Touchstone. I dont recco any pad as I only recco the touchstone. I like having one in my car, at the office and one on the nightstand.
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Can you try just putting something a few mm's thick between the phone and the charge pad and seeing if it still charges?
i got this mod with a 3mm thin case from ebay. they work perfectly.
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It works with a few mm but not sure how that affects charging. Please dont just take my word for it. Dont want you spending 30 on a back cover you cant use. But if it doesnt work i will buy it from ypu for a major discount. Lol
I dont believe qi is the way to go. The new nexus has wireless charging like the touchstone. I wonder if its compatible?
probably not. afaik, each of these wireless charging is proprietary and most probably incompatible with each other. The touchstone will only work with touchstone products (atleast from what I understand, it's different frequencies and also component parts differences)
You are probably right but i hope you are wrong... either way i am so surprised more phones dont charge like this.
Nexus 4 Qi
check out the news regarding Nexus 4 Qi "Orb" in this forum at "Qi Wireless accessories " Post# 136 on page 14 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1933523)
Hi axel. Is there any source to your news?
Nexus4 Qi
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Hi axel. Is there any source to your news?
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To name a few:
http://techcrunch.com/2012/10/29/here-are-the-official-specs-for-the-nexus-4-and-nexus-10/
http://techwhack.com/google-nexus-4-supports-qi-wireless-charging-tech-5300/
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Google-announces-Wireless-Charging-Orb-for-the-Nexus-4_id36060#1-
Google Nexus 4 Wireless
Now on Google's website as well:
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=nexus_4_8gb&feature=microsite
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probably not. afaik, each of these wireless charging is proprietary and most probably incompatible with each other. The touchstone will only work with touchstone products (atleast from what I understand, it's different frequencies and also component parts differences)
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Frequencies have anything to do with it. I'm pretty sure inductive charging uses magnetic fields to charge your device hence the giant coil in the phone cover. BUT, each base is most likely specific to it's counter part coil as different size coils will charge at different rates from the magenet in the base vs the amount of voltage and amps they put through the magnet. So it would make sense if a say Powermat didn't work with a Touchstone coil.
On the other hand, the touchstone uses a standard phone charger so it has a maximum of 5V at 1amp. I do not know what power source the Duracell Powermat uses (looked a little but didn't search long) so if it were to use a higher voltage at the same amps or higher amps at the same voltage then it may charger your phone faster.
NOTE: It should also be noted that if you use a different charging source with the touchstone base you could end up generating a different level of voltage and in turn damage your phone. It's not recommended to do this. The downfall (that I have found) with the touchstone setup is that it WILL charge through thin TPU cases and my Rock Quicksand case BUT the magnet is not strong enough to hold the phone in place. Since the touchstone is angled and not flat the phone starts to slide down and charging stops.
You can always switch out the magnets so your phone sits better on the touchstone. Its easy to change and it can make a nice diference.
Just ordered one. Touchstone rules.
@setzer715
that's an interesting read. thanks for clarifying the differences. I skimmed on articles about different wireless charging tech and remembered a few mentions of frequencies.
If only there is a standard that can adapt or provide compatibility with other methods... but that would probably drive up costs and probably extend r&d time.
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@setzer715
that's an interesting read. thanks for clarifying the differences. I skimmed on articles about different wireless charging tech and remembered a few mentions of frequencies.
If only there is a standard that can adapt or provide compatibility with other methods... but that would probably drive up costs and probably extend r&d time.
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may be in the future a multi format will be available.:fingers-crossed:
Hello.
I'm using the same charger with my i9300. But it charging the phone too long
Also I have removed a wireless charging module from a custom back cover and install it on my original i9300 back cover.
So wireless charging is here for the s3 by Duracell. Finally. Yeah mad expensive. I'll keep using the wired one
Thanks to Facebook advertizong for the link. Lol
http://www.duracellpowermat.com/wir...book&utm_medium=post&utm_campaign=S3%2Blaunch
What do you guys think? Personally, wireless charging is a good but its limited.
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I've had wireless charging since August . . .
Have one in my car and one next to my bed. The phone locks to the wireless dock with magnets which keep it in place and at an incline rather than flat. It's nice. Cost me ~ $25 for all of it.
Oh...and mine doesn't require an ugly case like the Duracell or some sort of special back cover. Phone looks like any other S3.
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I've had wireless charging since August . . .
Have one in my car and one next to my bed. The phone locks to the wireless dock with magnets which keep it in place and at an incline rather than flat. It's nice. Cost me ~ $25 for all of it.
Oh...and mine doesn't require an ugly case like the Duracell or some sort of special back cover. Phone looks like any other S3.
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DIY guide, please
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Guide please. Lol or link to one. 25 bucks I can definitely spend
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Ok. I'll try compiling something later tonight. It is basically based off of the Palm Pre charging that everyone on the I9300 forums has gone over except I change the magnets so it's secure and also shave the back cover so that it doesn't bulge.
This might sound stupid but whats the point to spend 100$ on a wireless charger ? Does it really bother you that much to have a cord laying around ? I find it not very conveniant at bed time... /unless its because you need some juice and there is no power source close to you i understand
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shahkam said:
This might sound stupid but whats the point to spend 100$ on a wireless charger ? Does it really bother you that much to have a cord laying around ? I find it not very conveniant at bed time... /unless its because you need some juice and there is no power source close to you i understand
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One advantage is that the micro USB connectors are a weak point in the design of most cell phones. They often break or wear out. Given the extra contacts in ours, I like the idea of avoiding the wear and tear.
But it looks like this one doesn't follow the Qi standard which our phones support with the replacement back which was promoted so I'll pass.
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brad0112358 said:
One advantage is that the micro USB connectors are a weak point in the design of most cell phones. They often break or wear out. Given the extra contacts in ours, I like the idea of avoiding the wear and tear.
But it looks like this one doesn't follow the Qi standard which our phones support with the replacement back which was promoted so I'll pass.
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Yeah true they tend to break however i always take good care of my phones so for me my phones are always as mint as day 1
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Does this not work on the T999???????
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6W7WfcXQTQ
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Does this not work on the T999???????
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6W7WfcXQTQ
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Yeah it will work.
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Wireless charging seems useful but I'm in no rush. Would love it for my car though. Too many wires as it is.
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}{Alienz}{ said:
I've had wireless charging since August . . .
Have one in my car and one next to my bed. The phone locks to the wireless dock with magnets which keep it in place and at an incline rather than flat. It's nice. Cost me ~ $25 for all of it.
Oh...and mine doesn't require an ugly case like the Duracell or some sort of special back cover. Phone looks like any other S3.
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Would still love to hear how to accomplish this for this price =D
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If you look at duracell's page closer, 99.99 is for a S3 "kit" , which :
Includes:
(1) Powermat® for 2 Devices
(1) Wireless Case for Samsung Galaxy S III
(1) Power On The Go
(1) Universal Power Supply (100-240VAC)
(1) Owners Manual
You can also buy the case, powermat or portable battery seperately. The bulky wireless case is 34.99 , the 2 device powermat is 49.99 and power on the go is 49.99.
I'd prefer changing only the backplate instead of having a case around it, but I guess that if you only change the backplate and put a cover on top of it, it could very likely interfere with the wireless charging being to far from the charging mat.
Samsung's own wireless recharger should be available soon somewhere, and supposedly has coils 40 percent thinner than other charger out there, keeping the backplate as thin as possible. Although, I expect the price will be high. I am pretty fed up with all the asian designed cheap accessories ordered over the net for a fraction of the price.. so I wouldn't mind spending on something that i would use as often as a charger.
99.99$ could of been a deal, if the case wasn't so damn huge.
If they would have made a blue or black version I would buy this. Can't see putting a white case on my blue phone.. ugh
Still have to provide power to the wireless charger. Fail.
I'll keep it simple (and stylish looking... man that thing is an eyesore) and plug a cord in
I don't consider it wireless charging if we have to have a gigantic bulky ugly case to do so.
Here's a link to give you a better idea of a DIY wireless charger.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2019543
My solution
I guess }{Alienz}{ isn't going to reply. I'll tell you what I did for my wireless charging needs.
I purchased the Palm Touchstone wireless dock from Amazon for about $8 and a new SIII back cover, with a touchstone compatible module to charge the battery, from e-bay for $29 (the scumbag I bought my case from is now selling them for $99) Put that cover on my phone and it looks and works like normal (including NFC), but I can now charge the phone by just putting in on the Touchstone.
Works for me and $35 is hell of a lot better than $80-$100
se1000 said:
Does this not work on the T999???????
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6W7WfcXQTQ
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That's real nice and really simple to implement unlike the hacks I've seen from a few month ago. But the hacks are cheaper, lol. It may even work with the flygrip I have attached to the back of my phone. It's just at 5mm.
RaymondPJR said:
That's real nice and really simple to implement unlike the hacks I've seen from a few month ago. But the hacks are cheaper, lol. It may even work with the flygrip I have attached to the back of my phone. It's just at 5mm.
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I have a receiver and base on order. Receiver was $26 if I remember correctly. I'll post pics and write a review here when everything comes in.
Hi all,
I've been reading a lot of threads about wireless charging and one of the most frequently asked questions is:
"Does this work with my [insert case here]?".
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So I thought it would be a good idea to make a thread where everybody can check if their cases are compatible before they actually buy the kit.
The 'set-up' I'll use for the testing will be this one; this backcover and this touchstone.
(Please note that I'm not affiliated with any of those products nor sellers. I'm just a guy that's trying to help his fellow S3-owners out before they buy the kit/mod. Those products also were the cheapest ones I could find on eBay as of 27th november.)
I will divide this into 2 sections; the QI wireless charging and the Touchstone wireless charging (mod).
I've ordered a couple of cases to test out and I will report back later. Also, I'll probably give these cases away afterwards anyways.
In the meantime it would be great if people could add cases that are compatible and if they use the QI or the Touchstone wireless charger.
QI wireless charging compatible cases:
-Otterbox Defender
-Otterbox Commuter
-Otterbox Prefix
-Spigen SGP Neo Hybrid
-(some) TPU/Plastic cases
Touchstone wireless charging compatible cases:
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I've added a section like that on the stickied qi thread as well [last night]. (in my post that is).
Specifically for the Qi ones. Afaik, members who have the otterbox commuter & defender are able to charge w/ the Qi charger.
I have a hybrid tpu/plastic case that also works with the qi kit.
mputtr said:
I've added a section like that on the stickied qi thread as well [last night]. (in my post that is).
Specifically for the Qi ones. Afaik, members who have the otterbox commuter & defender are able to charge w/ the Qi charger.
I have a hybrid tpu/plastic case that also works with the qi kit.
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Alright, thanks for your input. Do you want me to delete the QI piece? So there are no double posts and whatnot.
I don't really care. I think it's fine to have a place to double check.
i just manage to put the Touchstone wireless charger from palm into the galaxy s3 battery cover, ordering some case on amazon, will report back.
Since this thread is about Qi & Wireless charging tech.
Why not link to where we can get a battery back with the capability to wireless charge our phones? just a thought.
I've brain stormed ideas including ways to add a wireless charging station to a car/truck but I have yet to get a wireless/Qi battery door to make it even possible to start doing such experiments.
I had heard Samsung announced a wireless charging kit for the S3 but apparently never released it. (hopefully they show it off this week at CES for release alongside the new Extended battery coming this month)
check my 2nd post in the sticked thread for different options. That was all I was able to gather before it got close due to some members who blatantly abused the thread for their personal gains.
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check my 2nd post in the sticked thread for different options. That was all I was able to gather before it got close due to some members who blatantly abused the thread for their personal gains.
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Are the Qi backs compatible with the Nokia wireless pads? I read some threads on here that some users are using them but wasn't sure if that was entirely true and if it worked or not.
they work. It's a qi reciever so any transmitter will work. (i have the yijieneng one and tested it out on the nokia pad and the speaker/charger pad combo at the AT&T store and it charges just fine.
qvnsq said:
i just manage to put the Touchstone wireless charger from palm into the galaxy s3 battery cover, ordering some case on amazon, will report back.
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Received my cover a while back. Also ordered 2 touchstones and *about* 20 different types of cases from different locations.
Was on holiday and didn't manage to get home yet but tonight I'll try everything out.
NCX Designs said:
Since this thread is about Qi & Wireless charging tech.
Why not link to where we can get a battery back with the capability to wireless charge our phones? just a thought.
I've brain stormed ideas including ways to add a wireless charging station to a car/truck but I have yet to get a wireless/Qi battery door to make it even possible to start doing such experiments.
I had heard Samsung announced a wireless charging kit for the S3 but apparently never released it. (hopefully they show it off this week at CES for release alongside the new Extended battery coming this month)
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Alright, will add this in the OP.
FYI, I bought this backcover and 2 of these touchstones (note: doesn't come with a cable or anything; just the touchstone).
Also, haven't had a chance to try the combo out -yet. See previous reply.
Yeah, they announced it but haven't released anything yet. Frankly, I don't even know if they'll ever release it. Maybe it was just for the hype of it.
After all, they were 'one of the first' that would incorporate this in a device so widely sold.
I have the Zens white backcover with the Zens charging pad. It works but the cover is too thick for use with my case (which i want to keep) + it's white (Black S3).
I was wondering if anyone has experience with dismantling the tech in the zens cover and 'mounting' it in the standard samsung cover. Any feedback is welcome before i rip it apart
I got this touchstone back;
http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=170950767865
The magnet is terrible, it can barely stay on the touchstone without a case on it, and let alone with a case.
I have a touchstone on my dash in my car and even when driving slow in a straight line with no case on, the phone won't stay on the touchstone.
This Sucks because I bought sygic gps and was hoping this could replace my windshield mounted deactivated HTC touch pro 2 with igo8 finally.
Has anyone got one with an acceptable strength magnet?
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NCX Designs said:
Since this thread is about Qi & Wireless charging tech.
Why not link to where we can get a battery back with the capability to wireless charge our phones? just a thought.
I've brain stormed ideas including ways to add a wireless charging station to a car/truck but I have yet to get a wireless/Qi battery door to make it even possible to start doing such experiments.
I had heard Samsung announced a wireless charging kit for the S3 but apparently never released it. (hopefully they show it off this week at CES for release alongside the new Extended battery coming this month)
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cheapest I've found yet. $17.28 shipped for the receiver, I think $50 for the kit. free shipping. (same pad as every other overseas site, just way cheaper and verisign secure/certificate matches)
So when I found out that this phone already had wireless charging and all I would have to do it replace the back I got pretty excited. I found just the sticker on ebay so i ordered it. It says it is for PMA which is great since I have AT&T, but what bums me out is I'm not very interested in wireless charging for home. Honestly I could care less if I have to plug it in when I'm in bed, but it seems like it would be great for the car. Just put it in the cradle to charge and pull it out when I need to go in somewhere. I work out of my car so I'm in and out of my car a dozen or more times a day. I've seen several options for the QI, but none for PMA. I'm sure I already have my answer, but does such a thing exist? Does anyone think something like this will be available eventually?
As of right now I don't believe one exists. PMA hasn't gotten the adoption as Qi has. This is the primary reason I went with the T-Mobile version of the G3 and running it on AT&T. Works perfectly. In any case the only option you have right now is to make your own. Try to find a small PMA charger that can be easily mounted and run off of USB charger.
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OK I wanting a tough case, something on the lines of the "Otterbox Defender" or "Ballistic Tough Jacket" (open to other suggestions as well, so feel free to suggest some others) but I’m also wanting to match this with some kind of wireless charger, from my current reading the LG one i think model is WCD-100 only has a single coil and so phone has to sit in a perfect place, also with a single coil I’m wondering if the charge will even get through, but i have also read the standard QI ones have a triple coil and do not require phone to be in perfect place for charging, and i'm also wondering if triple coil will be better at getting though the tough case, I have ruled out metal backed tough cases as i presume not current would get through, I need my stand to be in black, White just would not go on my desk.
I am a bit of a newbie here so please bear with me but welcome any and all feedback and suggestions.
All1
There is a user on Google+ that added a wireless charging sticker to the inside of his Zerolemon case. I haven't seen pictures of how he did it, but he says wireless charging and NFC both work.
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Otterbox defender case does work with wireless charging atleast on the int. version of the phone.
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Thanks for the replies guys, sorry for the delay in getting back to you but i have been waiting for my Nokia DT-910 to come through (which it did today) and sorry to say it would not work with my phone, I have the UK version of the phone which has wireless built in but when Otterbox was on it would only charge on slow, but when i took the whole case if it done fast charge with no issues, so i'll knock the Nokia on the head and keep looking for another charger that may be suitable.
All1
arttuh said:
Otterbox defender case does work with wireless charging atleast on the int. version of the phone.
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Bought a Nokia DT-910 and it failed to charge my UK version of the G3 which comes with built in QI, oh well i have ordered a load more from Amazon which should be here today sometime so i will play with them, see how i get on
All1
I dunno what nokias qi charger i was using, i was curious about it working on this phone, maybe one wich would work with lumia 800 would work i quess.
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Well i have been using the Otterbox Defender for a while now and cannot find a single charger that works 100%, best i have found is something called "Tylt Vu" and that only charges in landscape format and has to be 100% spot on inplace to fast scharge so i'm looking at getting a new case that is not so think, would be nice if LG done a list of cases that would work with wireless chargers.
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