Ion doesn't need micro-SIM - Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion

I haven't seen anyone mention it on XDA or anywhere else online, so I thought I'd put it out there for people picking up Ions used or as AT&T free phones. Most sites tell you to cut your standard SIM down to Micro, but there's an easier and less risky option, though you still might want to make a small mod to your old SIM. The Ion uses a small tray to hold the Micro-SIM, and that tray just happens to be near the exact dimensions of a standard sized SIM:
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The tray is a little thicker, but otherwise it's basically a Micro-SIM to SIM adapter (which negates any benefit of using Micro-SIM in the first place...no space is saved). I went ahead and took a chance and just slid my standard sized SIM down into the slot where the tray would go, after establishing with reasonable confidence that the contacts should line up--it was just a question of whether the SIM's thickness would fit securely enough to stay in good contact. And yes, it did. Once I got the card about halfway in, the slot gripped it firmly--there must be some sort of retractable mechanism in there putting pressure on whatever you insert.
One problem I recognized but decided not to worry about at the time is how to get the SIM out of there again. Only one little corner protrudes, so I'll be trying desperately to slide it out with a pencil eraser or something if I ever have to remove it. The simple solution would be to drill a small hole or make a notch in that corner of the card, which wouldn't compromise the card's functionality in any phone but would give you somewhere to grip.

or u can use tweezers to remove it.

dyepnoodle said:
or u can use tweezers to remove it.
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Maybe, but I'm not too sure if you could get a grip even with tweezers. It's really a tiny corner that sticks out, and flush against the back of the slot.

I had the same problem when I got my ion and yes you can remove it with tweezers.
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use small amount of tape
I use a ion with small tape on sim card and it works fine, this way when I need to remove the sim I just pull the tape and it pulls the sim card.http://forum.xda-developers.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

maksofiaol said:
I use a ion with small tape on sim card and it works fine, this way when I need to remove the sim I just pull the tape and it pulls the sim card.
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Now that's simple--wish I'd thought of it

Bleh
I got it set up that way two days ago. The owner wanted to strangle me for trying, but in the end even he can see the benefits.
IMHO, micro and nanosims are unnecessary. The space saved is minimal as to justify the different format. Like when they sold us non standard chargers and non standard hands free (oh, and non standard "data cables) remember?

pppppp said:
IMHO, micro and nanosims are unnecessary. The space saved is minimal as to justify the different format. Like when they sold us non standard chargers and non standard hands free (oh, and non standard "data cables) remember?
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It's maybe useful if you actually save the space, but in the Ion the unnecessary tray actually takes up slightly more space than a standard SIM. I can only guess that AT&T insisted on that format out of their usual twisted marketing philosophy that if you just introduce enough artificial constraints, the consumer will pay you more to f*** them more gently.

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Sim Card Removal

Wow, this is an absolute pain to remove the sim card on the Touch Pro 2. Maybe it's just the t-mo branded one, because I didn't see too much online about it, but holy hell.
Any suggestions to get this sucker out?
I take it it's not on the back of the tilting screen like it is on the Kaiser?
Well that sucks. It is so nice to be able to remove the sim without taking the battery out.
Nope... this is how it is.. http://support.t-mobile.com/doc/tm53574.xml
...and this review tells u how hard it is to get it damn thing out. I still cant
http://blogs.zdnet.com/cell-phones/?p=1776
First of all, read the quick start guide and you will read how to place and remove the Sim card.
The Sim card is located underneath the battery. To remove it, look at the top of the place where the Sim card is located. There is a liitle hole on the left upper side. This hole is meant to be used by your stylus. Insert the stylus in the little hole and retrack a bit downwards. This way you can remove your Sim card. Hope this helps.
i got the eu version and have the same problem but with the sd card , the sim card removing is peace of cake compare to that
Hey guys, I was having some trouble removing the SIM card as well. I know there's a diagram next to the SIM card that tells you how to take it out by inserting the stylus into the top edge and using it to push the SIM out. But I've had no luck. I've had to push so hard that I was afraid of breaking the stylus tip.
Anyway, here's a tip:
Get a piece of paper. I recommend Post-its since they're thin yet sturdy. Cut a strip so that it's about the width of the SIM card. Insert the small edge into the where the SIM is suppose to slide out of the slot. Then push with the stylus. The paper will act as a guide for the SIM to slide out. See image for reference.
Note: You don't have to slide the paper all the way in under the SIM. It's fine to have it right on the edge.
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FYI the TmoUS version doesn't have that lil hole to stick the stylus in. I just used a safety pin while pushing down on that stupid metal clip. It takes a few tries, but it comes out.

HOWTO: Bypass activation and use your old simcard. (pics)

Just unboxed my TP2 (photos are in <here>, in case you're interested).
I decided that I'll skip this whole new simcard activation nonsense.. Now, whether they will disable my old simcard or not - I don't know. If they will, I will activate my new simcard then.
So, the problem is that AT&T is trying to be "cute" with us - they glued a piece of plastic on top of the simcard and somehow disabled the simcard locking mechanism from unlocking the simcard.
Meh, nothing a Victorinox pocket knife can't fix.
DO THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK. I'm not responsible for anything, YOU ARE.
Here is how to remove it and stick an old simcard in:
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Here's proof that it worked right after a reset (3G, HSDPA is not enabled by default, I presume):
Hope this helps someone.
What is AT&T's motivation for doing this? Is the phone perhaps arriving from HTC unlocked?
Why would AT&T want to go through the needless, employee-centric hassle of activating a new sim card, when I could simply stick my old one in it?
I don't get it?
XATAGuy said:
What is AT&T's motivation for doing this? Is the phone perhaps arriving from HTC unlocked?
Why would AT&T want to go through the needless, employee-centric hassle of activating a new sim card, when I could simply stick my old one in it?
I don't get it?
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No idea.. My old simcard works perfectly fine.. and it's actually about 4 years old (2 contracts).. I'm keepin' my $19/mo unlim data for as long as I can.
why are you using a knife to remove the sim card? you can easily remove the card by following the directions on the huge picture bext to the sim card by using the stylus to slide out the sim card.
Ludacrisvp said:
why are you using a knife to remove the sim card? you can easily remove the card by following the directions on the huge picture bext to the sim card by using the stylus to slide out the sim card.
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You mean the picture under the battery?
It doesn't slide out like that.. Did it work for you on Tilt2?
Dunno about the tape, but it is pretty hard to get the SIM out of the Q9h.
(nope, it does not have the unlock mechanism either) I just press down on the actual SIM & slide it out as much as I can with friction and then insert my nails into the slots on the side of the SIM and pull it out..
Pretty much standard procedure on most phones - the unlock mechanism, etc cost $$ and have been taken out on a lot of phones - welcome to cheapo manufacturing..
Still waiting anxiously for my Tilt2 - will report how this works there..
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You mean the picture under the battery?
It doesn't slide out like that.. Did it work for you on Tilt2?
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Yes, I am referring to the picture under the battery.
There is a little hole above the SIM card that you poke your stylus into and use that to push out the SIM card. Works fine on the Touch Pro2 Verizon, there is no difficulty in that method at all.
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Still waiting anxiously for my Tilt2 - will report how this works there..
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Didn't want to use my stylus. Used this:
Came out very easily..
Note: the tip is blunted/bent.. Do that to avoid inadvertent scratches
Yeah my sim card came out easily using the little hole for the stylus.
I guess AT&T just wanted to cover that "ugly" piece of metal lol.
If the SIM card is taped down and extra difficult to remove, then maybe that is how they are enforcing the new data plan requirements.
As has been pointed out though, I have the unlocked Touch Pro 2 and I have to use the stylus to remove the SIM card. No tape holding it down though, that's pretty weird.
Just use the hole above the SIM card slot. Took me a little to figure it out because I was so used to sliding the card out the normal way.
i personally was never told to activate my phone. the day i got it i called the business line and they said i could use the new sim or the old one and keep the new one as a backup(which i did). and i don't think they tried to make them hard to remove because it's the same for the gsm tp2. you have to use the stylus.
Got mine this morning, and it had no tape and no little lock tab. Popped it out exactly like the instructions showed, and slid in the old one. Worked beautifully.
LOL yeah you just poke your stylus in the little hole and "push" it out. No need for surgery...

DIY Mytouch 4G dock brainstorm

I am trying to find a relatively simple and cheap method to build what could be considered a night stand for my phone, and I am fairly confident that I am not the only one. Is anybody out there looking for ways to build such a device (even in passing)?
A member of the t-mobile forum recently ordered a stand from www.ezestand.com, which they are going to test out. The website mentions that the stand is not compatible with the droid incredible in horizontal mode, though. That seems like an issue that could plague the mytouch as well.
Another option I have been looking at a bit would be to use a business card stand. Something along the lines of the following stand could work...
http://www.amazon.com/Rolodex-Disti...MH/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&qid=1294169822&sr=8-13
Because the ends are open, the width of the phone would not be an issue. There is also a small base under the stand, and depending on what it is made out of, one could conceivably run a wire under the stand and cut a hole for the micro usb plug. It would be best to use a right angle micro USB, though.
Simple, cheap, and compatible with any phone.
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Simple, cheap, and compatible with any phone.
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LOL brilliant
While that is very neat, I don't like the idea of having something permanently on my bedside table that looks like garbage.
For what it's worth, I stopped by office max and they had that exact business card holder that I linked to in stock. It was cheaper there (about 6 bucks), and the bottom is made of a solid piece of some kind of particle board (as opposed to hollow plastic). That makes it a bit trickier, but I can imagine how a right angle micro usb plug could be worked in through the back piece of metal and a little shelf could be put in the bottom to hold the bottom of the phone up.
so i have been thinking of doing a car dock for the mytouch 4g, since I successfully modded the oem desk dock to use the three pins on the side..
well, I have a alpine blackbird navigation I bought awhile back and it had the car dock for it and I was thinking may be I can do something with this since I hardly use or I lost/broke the blackbird...
but I here are pics I took:
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I was thinking of switching or joining the mytouch to the alpine dock:?
let me know what you all think?
Interesting idea. From the video I have seen of the official dock (primarily yours), it seems like it is quite a snug fit. I am not sure how you will be able to recreate that, but I bet that dock would work fantastically.
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I have been thinking of doing something like this myself as well... I even drew up some quick ideas and made a cardboard prototype...I tried to design it where the angle may be adjusted....idk..
hmmmm
i had a thought about this also. what if we found a case that fit the phone and cut it down to spec, mounted it, then wired it up. i was even thinking about using the case to mold some others so i could make multiple ones that i might like

[Q] [SOLVED] Possibly damaged SIM slot?

In my Galaxy S4 mini's whole lifetime only twice has a micro sim been inserted. The first time I inserted a SIM card inside there, it worked immediatelly without any problems as soon as I powered on the phone (the sim card was cut from a normal one manually by me).
Then I left the phone unused without a SIM inside it for about 2 weeks and just today I tried to put back the same SIM card and the phone always displays "No SIM". Tried taking it on and off like a thousand times but still no effect.
The card is working on another phone but with an adapter as I don't have another phone that uses only Micro-SIM so I can't really test.
Any ideas?
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Here is an image of what the SIM looks like and how it is inserted. I would greatly appreciate if someone from here checks the exact form and placement of theirs and compare it to this image:
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Use an original uncut microsim
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Use an original uncut microsim
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Are you saying it could be possible that I just cut the SIM card badly? I'm planning on heading to the store and asking for an original Micro-SIM from my carrier but I'm afraid that might not be the solution and it would be a waste of money.
Yes, I would try it
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you can buy another if you think is broken from this link
http://www.tvc-mall.com/details/Rep...ung-Galaxy-S4-Mini-i9190-i9195-SAMF-I9190-05/
Or just ask a friend to check an original microsim
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you can buy another if you think is broken from this link
http://www.tvc-mall.com/details/Rep...ung-Galaxy-S4-Mini-i9190-i9195-SAMF-I9190-05/
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Wasn't expecting it to be that cheap to replace, thanks! :good:
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Or just ask a friend to check an original microsim
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Problem is, all of my friends use normal SIM.
I just watched a video how a person types a hidden code into the dialer which takes him to an advanced service mode and from there after choosing some options, the "No SIM" error immediatelly disappears even without the need of a reboot. I believe he reset the modem or something.
I thought it was a firmware related issue but that might not be the case also as I flashed two different firmwares (both for my region) with Odin and it's still the same.
Is it normal that the center pin is a bit down than the left and right one?
There was previously a user who broke one of the sim card reader clips. It could be possible?
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There was previously a user who broke one of the sim card reader clips. It could be possible?
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Yep it turned out that was the case, no firmware issues or anything of the sort. Luckaly mine wasn't actually broken but it just somehow went into the bottom too much. I used a small needle and tweaked it a bit hoping to push it back up and achieved it without breaking it.
Now it reads my cut Micro SIM just fine. :victory:
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Yep it turned out that was the case, no firmware issues or anything of the sort. Luckaly mine wasn't actually broken but it just somehow went into the bottom too much. I used a small needle and tweaked it a bit hoping to push it back up and achieved it without breaking it.
Now it reads my cut Micro SIM just fine. :victory:
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Scary that those pins can bend so easily.
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I've just had the same problem on my mom's S4 mini: central pin lower than the other two. Bending it up a bit solved the problem.
In fact on other S4 minis the three pins are level.
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SIM Not Detected - FIX

Since this has been an issue for me for a LONG time, and Samsung as well as carriers aren't clear on a repair - I'm going to explain what all I did to fix it.
It started over a year ago. I was waiting on a friend to contact me that came all the way up from Portland. Waiting all day, I went to give her a call and it said "No SIM card detected, please reboot to detect your SIM card". Rebooted, gave her a call and found out she was trying to get a hold of me all day and had to head back. I can understand how frustrating this can be for anyone.
There are MANY factors that can cause this, which is why this issue hasn't been completely resolved by Samsung. These factors include:
* The SIM itself
* The SIM slot
* The connector that connects the SIM / SD holder to the motherboard
* The motherboard
* The firmware
It will take some trial-and-error to find out what will work, but the first thing you can try is cleaning your SIM / Slot contacts with a piece of paper and a cleaner of your choice (I use QD electronic cleaner, and a piece of paper). After cleaning, reinstall and wipe the cache. This worked for a while.
I looked at the SIM contacts after replacing the holder. These contacts on the S4, at least my original holder, are VERY flimsy, and even just applying downward force (with a pencil eraser or your finger) to get a grip on the SIM to pull it out can throw them out of alignment. I suggest using needle-nose pliers or tweezers to GENTLY grip the SIM (by the side), after first unlatching the SIM (Push Forward).
What finally worked for me is replacing the SIM slot (for the 6th time) and the SIM card. There are actually many different versions of the SIM and SIM slot, so here's the versions that worked for me (T-Mobile customer)
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The version is to the top-right of the SIM holder. This is the one that worked for me, or "I9505 R0.3" Also note that the bottom right of the SIM slot itself has the mark "TE" for "TE Electronics" or "Tyco Electronics". If you have heard of Tyco (Electronics - not toy company), they are a major player. TE Electronics makes high quality parts for harsh environments. This brand mark is a good bet you have quality contacts for your new SIM. Here is where I bought it: http://www.ebay.com/itm/171514317032
After installing it, it did not work yet. It worked with every other provider BUT T-Mobile. Seeing as though this is a T-Mobile phone, I called them to see what was up. It was not blacklisted, so they sent me a new SIM card for free (since I paid for one that didn't work). Popped the new one they shipped me in, and it works!
There are MANY different kinds of SIM cards. Different carriers, different manufacturers, different versions, thickness, size of the contacts, are just a few of the factors that can be an issue with the SIM itself. A T-Mobile SIM has it's version on the back of the SIM, near the ICCID (SIM Number). Mine is the "Universal" Mini/Micro/Nano SIM, version: TM9260 06.00.
After installing, I wiped the cache partition, for good measure. BAM! Works!
This issue has been frustrating for me for a while. I hope this helps. If it does, please reply and/or share. I'm not looking for credit, I just am trying to narrow down all the factors and troubleshoot what is the actual issue. Good luck!

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