I have a Galaxy Nexus and I love the thing but holy hell the audio on this thing is pathetic. I had a Droid Charge prior to this which was a total piece of **** but the Camera and especially the audio were amazing! It got even better after loading a Voodoo Kernel and I was able to use my phone as a replacement for my iPod.
Now I'm on the Galaxy Nexus and I love the phone, everything about it is amazing, except the sound is pathetic. Even with the Xperia and Bravia engines and all that it's just terrible. In-call audio is even worse, I'm asking people to repeat themselves almost constantly. What happened with the Droid Charge that they couldn't add in to the Nexus? Does the Nexus 4 have a better audio driver? You would think this would be one of the most important features to such a beautiful phone!
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ZeppelinJ0 said:
I have a Galaxy Nexus and I love the thing but holy hell the audio on this thing is pathetic. I had a Droid Charge prior to this which was a total piece of **** but the Camera and especially the audio were amazing! It got even better after loading a Voodoo Kernel and I was able to use my phone as a replacement for my iPod.
Now I'm on the Galaxy Nexus and I love the phone, everything about it is amazing, except the sound is pathetic. Even with the Xperia and Bravia engines and all that it's just terrible. In-call audio is even worse, I'm asking people to repeat themselves almost constantly. What happened with the Droid Charge that they couldn't add in to the Nexus? Does the Nexus 4 have a better audio driver? You would think this would be one of the most important features to such a beautiful phone!
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This did wonders for mine.
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This did wonders for mine.
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Yeah I actually just installed this. It's not bad! What settings are you using and what player? Sadly I use Spotify mostly so most the effects don't carry over properly.
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This did wonders for mine.
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Yeah that definitely made an improvement but its a shame that our speaker is such crap and we don't have the more advanced audio internals that other phones have.
SGS 1 probably had the best audio hardware of all Galaxy phones... Everything after was worse... Not sure about the latest.
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SGS 1 probably had the best audio hardware of all Galaxy phones... Everything after was worse... Not sure about the latest.
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It's a shame that Samsung had to cheap out on the internals once the screen started getting bigger.
Its really comes down to hardware. In our case, very cheap hardware. There is only so much it can be improved by some software.
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SGS 1 probably had the best audio hardware of all Galaxy phones... Everything after was worse... Not sure about the latest.
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Indeed, Galaxy S with Wolfson DAC + voodoo sound by Supercurio was legendary. Yamaha DAC on its successor was a piece of junk.
Do any of you guys know of a non-bulky DAC setup that would work with the Nexus?
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Indeed, Galaxy S with Wolfson DAC + voodoo sound by Supercurio was legendary. Yamaha DAC on its successor was a piece of junk.
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Kinda odd that Nexus S had Wolfson too, but got a crappier chip in GN.
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Kinda odd that Nexus S had Wolfson too, but got a crappier chip in GN.
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Same components except for camera. Economies of scale make that cheaper than cheaping out.
I use bluetooth stereo headphones specifically to get around the GNex's poor audio output.
Sv: Is there, or will there ever be, a Galaxy phone with a 'audio driver' that's not
Sometimes i find manufacturers' decisions really hard to understand.
Edit. economies of scale is a good point.
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The audio chip in the galaxy nexus is not poor like you guys say. It may not be a Wolfson but it is one of the better chips out there. If you want bad listen to the Yamaha chip in the galaxy s2.
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The audio chip in the galaxy nexus is not poor like you guys say. It may not be a Wolfson but it is one of the better chips out there. If you want bad listen to the Yamaha chip in the galaxy s2.
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Perhaps. More worse is the loudspeaker, my mates Galaxy Ace plays louder then GNs "PC speaker" quality one.
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The audio chip in the galaxy nexus is not poor like you guys say. It may not be a Wolfson but it is one of the better chips out there. If you want bad listen to the Yamaha chip in the galaxy s2.
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I am sorry but being better than Yamaha is really nothing to brag Of course I agree with you that Yahaha DAC is a real crap. Audio chip on GN is not bad, but it's worse than its predecessor which is still kind of step backward.
Anyway my best audio experience so far was with galaxy r (tegra2) that was equipped with wolfson DAC.
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Its a developer's phone.
Plus the Gnex had a 350 price tag at the time. They have to sacrifice some features to keep it affordable.
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Perhaps. More worse is the loudspeaker, my mates Galaxy Ace plays louder then GNs "PC speaker" quality one.
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I know its off topic but man I wish the GN had a bigger speaker. The audio output is indeed good despite not being Wolfson, as a couple people said but that speaker makes this phone less of a phone than anything.
I'm guessing a lot of you have damaged hearing from over-exposure to loud sounds as I've not once had to ask someone to repeat themselves whilst on a call. Now, it could be down to the network I'm on but the Nexus is 100% fine to me. The only issue I have is the speaker isn't exactly loud but then again neither was my old One X so I'm not too fussed about that - it is a phone after all!
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The only issue I have is the speaker isn't exactly loud but then again neither was my old One X so I'm not too fussed about that - it is a phone after all!
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This doesn't make sense. A phone should have a loud speaker so you can definitely hear it ring and notify you.
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This doesn't make sense. A phone should have a loud speaker so you can definitely hear it ring and notify you.
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I can hear it, I'd just like it a bit louder for the odd times my phone isn't in my pocket
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i so love my GNEX i sold my 4S because its a lot better.. but when it comes to volume i cant accept the fact that its very weak and considering its a google flagship device, i dont know if google or samsung decided on this kind of speaker..im thinking of samsung put a crap speaker so it will not be competitive againts the next SGS3..in comparison with the 4s it its no where near, 4s is two time louder and has the best speaker in all mobile..thats the only short coming i have on this device, all in all its still the best smartphone around now..
It's a Samsung issue I've read quite a few posts similar to yours
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is it on the software or the speaker itself?
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is it on the software or the speaker itself?
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I bet its a mixture of both. And I bet when CM9 is ready we can up the volume with voodoo.
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i so love my GNEX i sold my 4S because its a lot better.. but when it comes to volume i cant accept the fact that its very weak and considering its a google flagship device, i dont know if google or samsung decided on this kind of speaker..im thinking of samsung put a crap speaker so it will not be competitive againts the next SGS3..in comparison with the 4s it its no where near, 4s is two time louder and has the best speaker in all mobile..thats the only short coming i have on this device, all in all its still the best smartphone around now..
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it's true the speaker isn't as loud but it's not the worst either. If you've ever had an htc device you'd see that Sammy is the middle ground. at the end of the day, there are so many benefits to this phone that the few drawbacks aren't dealbreaksrs. just a matter of getting used to the fact that the speaker is satisfactory instead of unusually loud
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Downloading audio guru does absolutely nothing.
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i so love my GNEX i sold my 4S because its a lot better.. but when it comes to volume i cant accept the fact that its very weak and considering its a google flagship device, i dont know if google or samsung decided on this kind of speaker..im thinking of samsung put a crap speaker so it will not be competitive againts the next SGS3..in comparison with the 4s it its no where near, 4s is two time louder and has the best speaker in all mobile..thats the only short coming i have on this device, all in all its still the best smartphone around now..
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I agree, the volume on this device sucks. The speaker is really weak. However don't lose hope, there are programs you can use to vastly improve it, for one... Volume+. It's in the market.
As for the 4s having "the best speaker in all mobile"... you may want to look into a little company called RIM. As the 4S is not even half as loud as any blackberry that I've come across. They are second to none in this department. This is a particular pet peeve of mine. Barring Rim, it seems like every smart phone manufacturer out there has totally forgotten that these things are "supposed" to be cell phones FIRST. They keep pushing the limits of screens, cameras, cpus, yet they all keep forgetting about basic things like call quality & battery life. Things that "should be important", for a mobile phone. And unfortunately, the vast majority of the public is to blame for this... With their stupid megapixel & benchmark penis envy. Very frustrating to me...
Does volume + actually increase the volume? Or is it just like the app someone up there mentioned?
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I miss Nokia when they always put a pair of stereo speakers on their phones.
I like how my mom's optimus one had the loudspeaker and earpiece as one. When you play videos the sound is directed towards you instead of coming out from the back of the device.
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Buy the volume+, not the free one (free goes up to volume 4).In settings of the volume+ select for speaker volume 6 or 7.You ll see the difference.You can also do it for headphones
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I agree, the volume on this device sucks. The speaker is really weak. However don't lose hope, there are programs you can use to vastly improve it, for one... Volume+. It's in the market.
As for the 4s having "the best speaker in all mobile"... you may want to look into a little company called RIM. As the 4S is not even half as loud as any blackberry that I've come across. They are second to none in this department. This is a particular pet peeve of mine. Barring Rim, it seems like every smart phone manufacturer out there has totally forgotten that these things are "supposed" to be cell phones FIRST. They keep pushing the limits of screens, cameras, cpus, yet they all keep forgetting about basic things like call quality & battery life. Things that "should be important", for a mobile phone. And unfortunately, the vast majority of the public is to blame for this... With their stupid megapixel & benchmark penis envy. Very frustrating to me...
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oh yes RIM has good sound on their speaker too i used bb9900 before, iphone 4s is 2x louder than the ip4.. i think gnex has the same speaker as the SGS2, im thinking that this is only because of ICS..
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Volume+ definitely increases the volume properly... I have mine at +8 and it's night and day compared to how it was at stock - I was seriously considering returning the phone as I simply couldn't hear the notifications and ringer unless it was in a quiet room.
And you can get the full version of Volume+, free from the author's site - http://androidaudiohacks.com/?page_id=2 so it's worth a try anyway!
Does volume+ require a rooted phone?
Similar, but a bit off-topic, how would it affect my experience if I rooted the GN (for specific apps to work) but kept stock ICS? Would I still receive official google updates, and would there be any difference anywhere?
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No, it doesn't need root.
There is no denying it. The speaker on the Galaxy Nexus SUCKS.....
So I downloaded Volume+ Free version.
The +4 setting is great. Everything is loud enough now.
My concern is, can this damage or blow the speaker over time ???
I mean, surely it's not designed to be running louder than google intends right
Also, don't understand why it's on the back. Apple did it right and placed it on the side for the iPhone 4/4s (plus it's 2x louder and sounds better)
Im betting it can. The speaker itself doesnt suck. Just the factory setting for volume does.
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Sure it can, but I doubt it will. +4 seems to be working fine for everyone, with few even going higher with the paid version. I'm fine at 4 though. No distortion.
I am on +11 with paid. Lol
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I am on +11 with paid. Lol
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No distortion?
Im on +9 with paid. Not loud at all...
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Im on +9 with paid. Not loud at all...
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I agree. Idk what's going on.
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Im on +8 and it suits me well enough
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Im on +9 with paid. Not loud at all...
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What are you running?
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I'm really wondering how such obvious bugs pass the testing phase at Google/Samsung so they have to be addressed by 3rd party software.
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I'm really wondering how such obvious bugs pass the testing phase at Google/Samsung so they have to be addressed by 3rd party software.
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They're not bugs. Samsung has notoriously horrible speakers on all their phones.
Every single Captivate, Infuse, S2, etc. that I've seen (2-3 of each) have had the same horrible speaker volume.
wtf
How do you figure it's the speaker when a third party app can significantly raise the volume, that makes no sense. It's a factory software setting.
isnt there a code you put in the dialer that lets you set the volume level ?, i remember when i had a DHD people were using a dialer code :\
dont UK devices have volume limits set by law?
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dont UK devices have volume limits set by law?
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That's for headphone volume so people can't be sued if you bust your eardrums. It's an EU law (european union) not UK only.
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How do you figure it's the speaker when a third party app can significantly raise the volume, that makes no sense. It's a factory software setting.
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The app exploits the equalizer API to raise the volume by raising levels on each frequency higher. It is NOT a factory software setting.
Just thought I'd put everyone's minds to rest
If your speaker is distorting then it is being damaged. The degree of damage obviously will vary from speaker to speaker and by how much it's distorting. Saying that though, the odds of it blowing your speaker are negligible (not impossible though, read the disclaimer ). Your speaker may die over time but you're much more likely to have a new phone by then. I abused my t-mobile G1 with audio mods and that still works fine!
I currently have an LG Optimus 2x and run it on +15 permanently (which distorts horribly) and have done since the phone was released and it's still working fine. I've had it much louder when testing too.
So yeah, I certainly wouldn't recommend running it on +15 all the time, but you should be absolutely fine on +4
Meltus -- love the app! Does the new audio interface support balance, or separate L R gain?
If so what are the chances you might add balance control to the app?
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I thought the rezound had good volume but when I got my Nexus I find it about the same. The Nexus is much louder then my G2x or Nexus One. Media volume I have to turn it down often.
I don't see it on my Verizon version. Do you think the GSM versions are lowered? My coworker has a G2 and said the speaker was loud...
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I also have mine in +11, anything else was to low
I have tested several time on my Galaxy Nexus, it doesn't enable the noise cancellation during calls.
My friend can easily know I am on train with the noise they heard.
However, I am doubting if it is rom related, can someone share your experience?
Boy I can't wait for VoLTE for this.
I question this too. I get complaints when calling from the freeway.
But i can confirm both mics work using tape recorder pro and testing each mic separately. The rear mic almost sounds better than the front.
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On Galaxy Nexus the noise cancellation I never see it work at all. On my Old Nexus One The noise cancellation was working great. I don't think the noise cancellation is working at all on Galaxy Nexus.
Noise cancellation is disabled during phone calls. That was already known. It's mainly for video recording.
Also, having both mics sending data over 3G/2G is too much, but we won't get VoLTE as we only have one lte radio.
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Noise cancellation is disabled during phone calls. That was already known. It's mainly for video recording.
Also, having both mics sending data over 3G/2G is too much, but we won't get VoLTE as we only have one lte radio.
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Sigh
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Smokeey said:
Noise cancellation is disabled during phone calls. That was already known. It's mainly for video recording.
Also, having both mics sending data over 3G/2G is too much, but we won't get VoLTE as we only have one lte radio.
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Thats not how noise cancellation works. There is no sending 2 mic data anywhere. Besides, tons of existing phones already have 2 mics with noise cancellation, nexus one, atrix, iphone, and they all work great and dont send 2 sets of data anywhere. It all happens on the phone. Sigh.
Can we get an app for that?
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Can we get an app for that?
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or maybe a rom feature?
After watching this demo, and then realizing that this tech is in every other Samsung phone except the Galaxy Nexus, it makes me wonder what else Samsung skimped on in addition to the low-res camera and now non-existent voice cancellation during phone calls... Someone explain why we paid so much for this phone?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FF5JuXaFQq4&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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After watching this demo, and then realizing that this tech is in every other Samsung phone except the Galaxy Nexus, it makes me wonder what else Samsung skimped on in addition to the low-res camera and now non-existent voice cancellation during phone calls... Someone explain why we paid so much for this phone?
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Low-res camera? Dude this camera is great! If people honestly are going to freak out about MEGAPIXELZZZZZZZ then they need to do some serious research. Megapixels do not make the camera, they just tell you how big you can blow it up. And last time I checked most people aren't editing photos or sharing photos on a 100" screen, so there isn't a need for anything beyond 8. 5 is perfectly sufficient as well. I heard a phone at MWC yesterday was going to be released with a 41MP camera. That is outrageously stupid but people will buy it just because there is a bigger number than before. Just like exhaust on a car. 5 inch exhaust!?!!? OMFG I'm sure that has to give me like 100 horsepowers!!!!
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Low-res camera? Dude this camera is great! If people honestly are going to freak out about MEGAPIXELZZZZZZZ then they need to do some serious research. Megapixels do not make the camera, they just tell you how big you can blow it up. And last time I checked most people aren't editing photos or sharing photos on a 100" screen, so there isn't a need for anything beyond 8. 5 is perfectly sufficient as well. I heard a phone at MWC yesterday was going to be released with a 41MP camera. That is outrageously stupid but people will buy it just because there is a bigger number than before. Just like exhaust on a car. 5 inch exhaust!?!!? OMFG I'm sure that has to give me like 100 horsepowers!!!!
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You are missing the point. We bought the most expensive phone on the market and thought we were getting the "best" phone, but Samsung skimped on features. Yes, the camera is acceptable, but 5mp is 2010 technology... No noise cancellation on a high-end smartphone is just wrong.
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You are missing the point. We bought the most expensive phone on the market and thought we were getting the "best" phone, but Samsung skimped on features. Yes, the camera is acceptable, but 5mp is 2010 technology... No noise cancellation on a high-end smartphone is just wrong.
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sell it or return it, nobody made you buy it and nobody made you keep it
nokia had this first http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6HsGyKU46c
I'm baffled why noise cancel was not enabled. Especially considering how well its been on other phones including other nexus phones.
The hardware is there. Surely google could enable it in an update?
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I'm baffled why noise cancel was not enabled. Especially considering how well its been on other phones including other nexus phones.
The hardware is there. Surely google could enable it in an update?
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Unfortunately, the hardware is NOT there... It's a special chip we are missing. Sure, they could add software noise cancellation and use the two mics, but it would be vastly inferior to something like the earsmart technology, which was on older nexus devices.
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sell it or return it, nobody made you buy it and nobody made you keep it
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So the guy can't even MENTION that the technology isn't there without someone implying he is a complainer?
I like the GN, but I am disappointed with the lack of some high-end features.
Question: is it Samsung's influence so the GN wouldn't take away too many GSII sales, or was it Google's decision to build the phone to a price point to keep margins high?
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Unfortunately, the hardware is NOT there... It's a special chip we are missing. Sure, they could add software noise cancellation and use the two mics, but it would be vastly inferior to something like the earsmart technology, which was on older nexus devices.
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Ah damn ok, so it was a cost issue likely samsung trying to save on BOM. Now i see why people complain when i'm on the freeway calls.
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You are missing the point. We bought the most expensive phone on the market and thought we were getting the "best" phone, but Samsung skimped on features. Yes, the camera is acceptable, but 5mp is 2010 technology... No noise cancellation on a high-end smartphone is just wrong.
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5MP equals out to a resolution of 2984 x 1680 (Compared to 3768 x 2120 for a 8MP camera). Find me why it would be necessary to have a higher resolution camera? Also, this camera has a faster shutter speed than most newer phones.
Oh, and if you are doing major photo editing with a phone camera... you're doing it wrong.
pixel hype is so 2008
I prefere low sensitive with low noise ccd.
Some good low light presets would be nice to
no need for 12Mp
noice cancelation would be nice, but can say I'm missing it much
Did someone managed to record in laud environment like concerts? How does it behave? I can't believe no one is interested in this. I also want to know how SGS3 behaves. I am asking this because only some devices can use voodoo sounds that can handle loud environments. Both SGS2 and Galaxy Nexus behaves like crap when recording even at a party (because of the samsung's audio chipset that is crap ). What do you guys think? Isn't a feature worth mentioning even in reviews like the ones GSM arena is having? I was so disappointed after I sold my Iphone4 to get SGS2 and done some sound tests. Thank you!
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I had the S7E and frankly the headphone audio was terrible. I've since moved to the HTC 10 and the audio is excellent.
Now I'm not expecting HTC level audio, but something better then the s7e would be nice. Even just better software processing.
Has anybody compared any of these devices from an audio standpoint?
Since it's the same hardware as the S7 I'd expect the same sub-par sound quality unfortunately. The US version keeps getting the shaft in this regard.
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I'm curious to find this out as well...
I had the S7 Edge and it wasn't bad just not as good as the HTC 10 - audio on the HTC was a standout feature.
I wish Samsung would put more effort in this area - in their defense though, they have been known to include some nice Wolfson DAC's in past Galaxy phones like the Note 5. I think it varies depending on which model you purchase (Exynos/Qualcomm).
Apple is rumored to improve audio on the iPhone 7 since they remove the headphone jack, so let's see if Samsung responds and gives more attention to it on the S8 and beyond.
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I'm curious to find this out as well...
I had the S7 Edge and it wasn't bad just not as good as the HTC 10 - audio on the HTC was a standout feature.
I wish Samsung would put more effort in this area - in their defense though, they have been known to include some nice Wolfson DAC's in past Galaxy phones like the Note 5. I think it varies depending on which model you purchase (Exynos/Qualcomm).
Apple is rumored to improve audio on the iPhone 7 since they remove the headphone jack, so let's see if Samsung responds and gives more attention to it on the S8 and beyond.
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I guess even being able to use a USB DAC would be nice too.
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Since it's the same hardware as the S7 I'd expect the same sub-par sound quality unfortunately. The US version keeps getting the shaft in this regard.
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I had the Exynos S7E & that was pants in the audio dpt both headphone & speaker. It's not a good start for the N7 - $h it audio,,,,
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I had the Exynos S7E & that was pants in the audio dpt both headphone & speaker. It's not a good start for the N7 - $h it audio,,,,
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I keep waiting on Samsung to up their audio game but every year I'm disappointed. Audio doesn't even seem like an afterthought.
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Plus now since there is no Root most likely we can't even use viper4android
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This is why I'm thinking of getting a Note 4 C to go with my Note 5, cause that was brilliant with audio having a wolfson dac.
How does the S7 compare to the Note 4, S4 or S5 in audio quality? You guys have me nervous about my pre-order since I use headphones so much. I don't have anything super fancy, just some Shure SE215's
I use a Cyrus/Usher home audio system plus Grado and Sennheiser cans for headphone listening.
It depends if you call booming bass and searing highs 'good quality' audio?
If you care about music reproduction the Exynos version is actually very good. - Wolfson co-developed Lucky DAC.
I also have a Audio quest Dragonfly Black external DAC and although I use it if I listen critically the difference is not night and day.
If you're unlucky enough to have the Snapdragon version (for several reasons) you won't enjoy your audio as much. It uses the integrated chip.
Headphone amplifier power is limited in both versions. It goes plenty loud (for many unfortunately the decisive factor as to 'good sound') but it won't please head bangers.
If you value your hearing you probably won't want to go there.
The included head buds are useless by the way. I'd bin them asap.
(S7E Exynos user)
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I use a Cyrus/Usher home audio system plus Grado and Sennheiser cans for headphone listening.
It depends if you call booming bass and searing highs 'good quality' audio?
If you care about music reproduction the Exynos version is actually very good. - Wolfson co-developed Lucky DAC.
I also have a Audio quest Dragonfly Black external DAC and although I use it if I listen critically the difference is not night and day.
If you're unlucky enough to have the Snapdragon version (for several reasons) you won't enjoy your audio as much. It uses the integrated chip.
Headphone amplifier power is limited in both versions. It goes plenty loud (for many unfortunately the decisive factor as to 'good sound') but it won't please head bangers.
If you value your hearing you probably won't want to go there.
The included head buds are useless by the way. I'd bin them asap.
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But the thing is the S7E Exynos isn't very good with headphone audio, that's the whole problem.
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Note 4 N910C was totally fine [at least for my non-professional view] w/o Viper. I didn't want to root for 6 months or so in order not to null my warranty. Right now it's even better w Viper. I wish someone can review and make side-by-side comparison for Note 7 (I guess Exynos version) and Exynos Note 4 in terms of SQ!
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But the thing is the S7E Exynos isn't very good with headphone audio, that's the whole problem.
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The Note 7 has Qualcomm's new Aqstic codec, and the S7E does not. This is the same one used in the HTC M10. That should help some, although the amp may be the weak link in the chain at this point.
https://www.qualcomm.com/news/relea...m-powers-next-generation-samsung-galaxy-note7
(in first paragraph)
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PsiPhiDan said:
The Note 7 has Qualcomm's new Aqstic codec, and the S7E does not. This is the same one used in the HTC M10. That should help some, although the amp may be the weak link in the chain at this point.
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Is that for EU version or the US?
@home said:
Is that for EU version or the US?
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Qualcomm is the company that makes the Snapdragon chip, so it's got to be the US version.
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PsiPhiDan said:
Qualcomm is the company that makes the Snapdragon chip, so it's got to be the US version.
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That's what I thought.
I'm talking about the Exynos version. Same as the S7E.
@home said:
That's what I thought.
I'm talking about the Exynos version. Same as the S7E.
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... which uses a Wolfson derived DAC. Likely better than Qualcomms solution, code notwithstanding.
Ultimate limitation is the DAC/amplifier chip ... ie. hardware.
Either way, you would be better off using an outboard DAC as mentioned previously or something like a high resolution player from Fiio if you want the last ounce of performance.
No phone will come close to a well implemented and dedicated player.
Forget about Viper and other similar players. Pretty lights that's it. It will do absolutely nothing for your audio other than adding some fancy looking equalizers. Use either Samsungs own player or the one from Google. Black player is another good one and simple.
drummerman said:
... which uses a Wolfson derived DAC. Likely better than Qualcomms solution, code notwithstanding.
Ultimate limitation is the DAC/amplifier chip ... ie. hardware.
Either way, you would be better off using an outboard DAC as mentioned previously or something like a high resolution player from Fiio if you want the last ounce of performance.
No phone will come close to a well implemented and dedicated player.
Forget about Viper and other similar players. Pretty lights that's it. It will do absolutely nothing for your audio other than adding some fancy looking equalizers. Use either Samsungs own player or the one from Google. Black player is another good one and simple.
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Well maybe they have improved the DAC/amplifier chip for the Note 7.
It's annoying that a definite answer cannot be found on the net somewhere.
@home said:
Well maybe they have improved the DAC/amplifier chip for the Note 7.
It's annoying that a definite answer cannot be found on the net somewhere.
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I'm monitoring http://www.head-fi.org/ time to time. I guess sooner or later some reviews of Note 7's SQ will appear!