[Q] Next phone after Desire Z? - G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

My Desire Z is getting a bit old, and has recently started turning itself off. It's only been 15 months but maybe it's time for a new phone. What's the next big phone that appeals to the same audience as the Desire Z?

I don't see anything down the pipeline with a keyboard so I just dropped the money on a nexus 4. What attracted me to the g2 was aosp android so I feel at home on the nexus
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Dude wait till Samsung releases the SG4 thats prolly the only phone thats gunna get the approval right now! Its suppose to be released in April!

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Dude wait till Samsung releases the SG4 thats prolly the only phone thats gunna get the approval right now! Its suppose to be released in April!
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Searched for Samsung SG4 but only found some phone released in 2011?
What other keyboard phones are there right now? Has the last keyboard phone already been released?

There sure are a lot of these threads all over xda
Anyway I'm with you, I need a qwerty and I don't care what they say a bigger screen isn't better, I've been using m nexus 7 for 6months now and it still is slower and filled with more mistypes then when using a qwerty. I've used many other talents too as well as my friends note 2, they can be nice but still need a hardware keyboard.
The vision is still the best around in my opinion, I also have a dream and a sidekick 4g and an etc doubleshot, their all good in a way but really the only step up right now is the galaxy relay, even this is hardly worth the money over a vision.
This is just my opinion but until there is something better why leave such a nice phone
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Got to agree with demkantor there, I also have a nexus 7 and as long as I'm holding it upright as you would with a phone (you know, clasping you fingers round the back and typing with thumbs) it is not as quick as with my G2. Resting it on your lap and typing with multiple fingers is pretty speedy however, even in portrait.
I put up with my G1 until the battery couldn't get me through the day and it was 5 revisions of Android behind (yeah it can run Gingerbread, but not well, and ICS and JB are a joke on the G1) and I expect to do the same with my Vision, which I love. It's got the very latest version of Android in 3 different varieties (AOSP, CM, AOKP) and it's just great, the battery lasts for days, it's usable at lower-than-stock clock speed and the keyboard is fantastic, I don't know why so many people moaned about it being worse than the G1's, it's just different and you get used to it.
Also, having a physical qwerty keyboard is very useful for more "root-y" purposes: it's so much easier to use Terminal Emulator for example, and console emulators are a lot more fun with a physical keyboard.
I'll be lost when the time does come that I need an upgrade, because phones with keyboards just aren't being made anymore... it's a niche market, which unfortunately I'm part of. Look here. I figured I'll have to go dual core next (at least), and 512MB RAM appears to be pushing it a bit in terms of amount needed for Android, and also development doesn't appear to even be that great for phones with keyboards.... look at the Desire HD, Desire S, or even the original Desire forums compared to the Vision.
...That said, the Moto Photon and DROID 4 look nice... shame I'm in the UK , not a keyboard-phone in sight after the Vision over here. Anyway, long live the Vision!

Sad that no moron OEM sees the need for a QWERTY Android phone.

I'd get the Nexus 4 next now that it's in stock. Or maybe consider going tablet only and get a nexus 7 hspa. (I'm considering doing that after my contract is up)
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My old g2 keyboard was too stiff. I'm really liking typing on a 9.8" tablet virtual keyboard. I can almost touch type nearly as fast as on a full sized keyboard.
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gromky said:
My Desire Z is getting a bit old, and has recently started turning itself off. It's only been 15 months but maybe it's time for a new phone. What's the next big phone that appeals to the same audience as the Desire Z?
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I was having that issue too. It ended up just being the battery. I got this one on Amazon http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005KPF59Q/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00
The Anker 1600mah, and all the random powerdowns went away. It's lasting about 20% longer than the original was too. Cheap fix if the G2 is still doing it for you in other areas.
I am considering a Nexus 4 at the moment, but I think it's just WANT, not need, so I'll probably manage to avoid that $300 outlay for a while yet.

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I was having that issue too. It ended up just being the battery. I got this one on Amazon http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005KPF59Q/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00
The Anker 1600mah, and all the random powerdowns went away. It's lasting about 20% longer than the original was too. Cheap fix if the G2 is still doing it for you in other areas.
I am considering a Nexus 4 at the moment, but I think it's just WANT, not need, so I'll probably manage to avoid that $300 outlay for a while yet.
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Hey, I couldn't agree more, I'd love to have a Nexus 4 but I really really don't needd one, not in the same way that I had to get a Vision because my G1 wouldn't last a few hours on it's battery. Hey, courtesy of the Andromadus team, adamz and Fyodor we have 3 different versions of the he latest version of Android.
Also, I also have an Ankers 1600mAh battery, it-s awesome, lasts more than 2 days between charges! (Although I'm not exactly a heavy user, but its miles better than the stock 2 year old HTC one)

Experience report - missing my keyboard
I had trouble finding a well-speced qwerty phone, so I had to settle for a Samsung Galaxy SIII LTE. It was either that or a Nexus 4.
My plan was to get a case with an external bluetooth keyboard for it. I got one and it's bad, so now I've ordered another type.
If I could get a Desire Z with more memory and a fresher CPU, that would have been my choice
The qwerty-phones I considered were:
Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G
Motorola Photon Q
LG Mach (LS860)
Motorola Droid 4
These models don't have the highest specs, but that may be outweighed by a decent keyboard.

The qwerty-phones I considered were:
Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G
Motorola Photon Q
LG Mach (LS860)
Motorola Droid 4
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of these, the Droid 4 has the best keyboard by far, and the LG Mach has the prettiest screen (IPS panel)

The problem with the Droid 4 is there is near null development. When Android 5.0 come out, you'll either get a ****ty expirence or you wont get it at all.
No ASOP, no CM, no nothing. Thats why the Droid 4 hasnt exploded.

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I had trouble finding a well-speced qwerty phone, so I had to settle for a Samsung Galaxy SIII LTE. It was either that or a Nexus 4.
My plan was to get a case with an external bluetooth keyboard for it. I got one and it's bad, so now I've ordered another type.
If I could get a Desire Z with more memory and a fresher CPU, that would have been my choice
The qwerty-phones I considered were:
Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G
Motorola Photon Q
LG Mach (LS860)
Motorola Droid 4
These models don't have the highest specs, but that may be outweighed by a decent keyboard.
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What about the Captivate Glide? or Stratosphere I, II
my :tank: has blown your house up

Desire Z is the best phone I have ever seen :laugh:
You can change ROM and your Desire Z will be better

I'm probably gonna buy myself a new phone pretty soon, been looking a lot at the HTC ONE, looks like a solid piece of work!
But pretty expensive, and my nephew has a galaxy s3 he's selling cheap, only problem is the samsungs are so plasticcy, there's just not that much of a quality feel...
I am also considering the htc one x plus.
If only we we're able to upgrade the processor and memory of our DZ, or just the memory for that sake and I probably wouldn't even consider buying a new one

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What about the Captivate Glide? or Stratosphere I, II
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Haven't tried them. Images look ok. If specs are good (enough) too, I would consider them if I was buying

No QWERTYs
Desire Z has been a great phone. Unfortunately, every Android coming out these days seems to be a 6" phablet with a touchscreen keyboard.
I can't believe I'm actually saying this, but I might look at Blackberries, especially if they come out with a slider.
HTC, give us a G3!

i love adroid slider phone like my desire z so i'm going to test the Huawei U8730 (T-Mobile MyTouch Q by Huawei)

magikstar said:
i love adroid slider phone like my desire z so i'm going to test the Huawei U8730 (T-Mobile MyTouch Q by Huawei)
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Desire Z is so much better... Or better yet try the my touch 4g slide
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Galaxy nexus or Xperia S ?

I am buying it as a gift for my GF who had been an ardent blackberry user ,, and finally wishes to jump into the "real" smartphone market ..
she already has an Ipad so an Iphone4s is a no no ... and the choices pretty much come down to Sony Xperia S vs Galaxy nexus ...
Which is better and why ?
galaxy nexus, since this us a galaxy nexus forums
but i think girls usually prefer the looks of sony
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Xperia S is probably better for girls with its Facebook interaction and social stuff. The nexus would be better if your girlfriend like flashing roms and root and has big hands.
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Why is an iPhone a no-no because she has an iPad? They compliment each other great.
Just let her decide.. Don't think it'll matter that much since she's coming from BB.
Iphones are made for girls....well imho anyways
The answer is Galaxy Nexus. It's always Galaxy Nexus.
Unless she really wants an Xperia S... for some reason. And I have to agree that an iPhone 4S isn't a bad idea if she's used to iOS. There are pros to both views.
naha…
Girls like Android even if I do not know why… *shrugs*
My sister got pulled from iOS to Android by an HTC Wildfire (which really isn't a great experience).
She now uses an HTC Legend instead of an iPhone4 and will get some HTC One flavour with the ending of her old contract. (I would recommend the V) which does espc. affect women with all the Sense stuff…
A friends GF got an HTC Sensation XE/XT or whatever and her first move was to get to him and have it rooted because she missed some features he had on his phone (with CM7.x)
If you go the Sony route get her the Xperia P not the S. The aluminum on it super svelte.
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naha…
Girls like Android even if I do not know why… *shrugs*
My sister got pulled from iOS to Android by an HTC Wildfire (which really isn't a great experience).
She now uses an HTC Legend instead of an iPhone4 and will get some HTC One flavour with the ending of her old contract. (I would recommend the V) which does espc. affect women with all the Sense stuff…
A friends GF got an HTC Sensation XE/XT or whatever and her first move was to get to him and have it rooted because she missed some features he had on his phone (with CM7.x)
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Most girls then....hehe
Don't get galaxy nexus. Get Sony or the iphone.
Dude just get here a galaxy s2 bro
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I'm a girl who jumped from Blackberry to Xperia to Samsung. My son also has an Xperia Play. I love my Gnex, but I'd honestly recommend one of the new Xperias as an introduction to Android.
The build quality on Sony phones feels a lot more solid than Samsung phones. Samsungs just feel kinda cheap and plasticky, IMO. I have a Gnex now simply because I wanted pure stock ICS and updates direct from Google. If that were not important to me, I'd have waited a bit and gotten an Xperia S instead, simply because it's pretty much equivalent as far as hardware goes, and it's also prettier (IMO).
So my vote is to get her the Sony....maybe she'll want a Nexus eventually, like I did, and maybe by then the current Nexus will be something other than a Samsung.
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GIFT? Get her a G1 and take your cash to a strip club. Problem solved. Or let her pick one. Tbh, all the android I brought my missus are "not white" or "too big"
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I bought an Xperia S a couple of weeks ago, originally for my wife.
She hated it so I ended up using it.
If you're going to get one, at least wait for the ICS upgrade to see if it fixes the battery issues with Sony's GB rom (or even better, hang on for a good custom rom).
As it stood, I didn't get on with the Xperia S at all, so it sadly ended up on eBay.
I've just replaced it with a gnex, and couldn't I be happier.
The reasons my wife hated it?
The hardware buttons are a bit fiddly. She was forever pressing the back button again and again, trying to get it to register. I found this problem too.
The battery life (as mentioned above, this should be fixed by a software update, eventually)
Performance: the stock .67 sony rom is laden with rubbish. The launcher is laggy and the gb menus are awfully choppy. Again, hopefully the ICS update will cure this.
The screen was excellent though, and the camera was very good, for a phone. A potentially great phone, ruined by the software.
I am a BlackBerry user (please don't hate ). I use a BB on my main line and the Nexus One on my second line. I plan on getting the Galaxy Nexus. The reason why I chose the GNex is because it uses a regular sim and you can remove the battery. The Xperia S uses a micro sim and I change phones often on my second line. I have many micro sim adaptors and they don't work properly. Also correct me if I'm wrong, but the battery of the Xperia S is non removable. That's a dealbreaker for me. I can deal with the internal memory and eventually when all manufacturer's switches over to the micro sim or nano sim. But I like the choice to be able to buy an extended battery or extra battery if I need one. I have small hands and I played around with the GNex. It's not as big as I thought it would be. Also by looking at the specs of both devices, the Xperia S is not that much smaller.
Another thing to keep in mind is your GF is a BB user which means I'm sure she loves the led notification light. The GNex has it and I'm pretty sure the Xperia S has one has well. Sony has been known to have an led notification light. Thought I point that out to you just in case you change your mind and get her an iPhone or the SGSII and she's wondering where the led notification light is, because there isn't one.
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are "not white" or "too big"
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Talking about the phones or your ex girlfriends?
martonikaj said:
Talking about the phones or your ex girlfriends?
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On some occasions, both
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The Gingerbread Man said:
Xperia S is probably better for girls with its Facebook interaction and social stuff. The nexus would be better if your girlfriend like flashing roms and root and has big hands.
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LMFAO, best post, ever!
Even the girlfriend laughed when I read her that!
I stand corrected, I was unaware that the Xperia S has a non-removable battery.That would be a deal-breaker for me, as well.
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iPhone 4 owner thinking of getting the GN.

Hey there. I currently use the iPhone 4 on Verizon. I tried android before and had a Samsung Fascinate for about 10 months before switching to iPhone. The main reasons I switched were speed, efficiency, and a streamlined appearance. I needed a phone that just worked. The fascinate was beautiful, but it was laggy, stuck on 2.1 for FAR too long, and riddled with bloatware (BING, UGH!). I've been looking at the Droid Incredible and Droid 4, but they both seem lackluster. I DON'T want the Galaxy S3, I'm done with Touchwiz and rooting to get rid of it. The Nexus is a bit older now, but only $50 on a contract extension.
So, Nexus owners, do you love your phone? Would you buy it again? And is it worth it to upgrade to one now? I'm a little android-curious and I want to be assured that this phone is a winner!
Also, I'm used to wonderful battery life on my iPhone 4 (light use about 1.5 days). Can the GN compare?
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Hey there. I currently use the iPhone 4 on Verizon. I tried android before and had a Samsung Fascinate for about 10 months before switching to iPhone. The main reasons I switched were speed, efficiency, and a streamlined appearance. I needed a phone that just worked. The fascinate was beautiful, but it was laggy, stuck on 2.1 for FAR too long, and riddled with bloatware (BING, UGH!). I've been looking at the Droid Incredible and Droid 4, but they both seem lackluster. I DON'T want the Galaxy S3, I'm done with Touchwiz and rooting to get rid of it. The Nexus is a bit older now, but only $50 on a contract extension.
So, Nexus owners, do you love your phone? Would you buy it again? And is it worth it to upgrade to one now? I'm a little android-curious and I want to be assured that this phone is a winner!
Also, I'm used to wonderful battery life on my iPhone 4 (light use about 1.5 days). Can the GN compare?
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I love nexus to d core ... goin with 27h battery life with 3.24h of screen on
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Can definitely get a good day or two with light use out of the Nexus, everyone's idea of light use differs though.
I've previously owned an iPhone 4. Got to say, with Jellybean you get the same snappy OS feel minus the restrictions.
The camera isn't as good indoors, but much faster and outdoors pic quality is about the same.
If you want an Android device, then it is the one to have IMO.
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Hey there. I currently use the iPhone 4 on Verizon. I tried android before and had a Samsung Fascinate for about 10 months before switching to iPhone. The main reasons I switched were speed, efficiency, and a streamlined appearance. I needed a phone that just worked. The fascinate was beautiful, but it was laggy, stuck on 2.1 for FAR too long, and riddled with bloatware (BING, UGH!). I've been looking at the Droid Incredible and Droid 4, but they both seem lackluster. I DON'T want the Galaxy S3, I'm done with Touchwiz and rooting to get rid of it. The Nexus is a bit older now, but only $50 on a contract extension.
So, Nexus owners, do you love your phone? Would you buy it again? And is it worth it to upgrade to one now? I'm a little android-curious and I want to be assured that this phone is a winner!
Also, I'm used to wonderful battery life on my iPhone 4 (light use about 1.5 days). Can the GN compare?
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The Nexus is without question the best android experience you can get currently. The only problem I had with Ice Cream Sandwich was the lag when using live wallpapers but Jellybean fixed that problem. Honestly smoothness of the Nexus with Jellybean is on par or slightly worse than the iPhone. If I was to get a phone right now I would definitely pick up the Nexus especially at 50 dollars, that said however I would personally wait a few months for the new Nexus phone/s to be announced.
Do it. You got plenty of time before the next Nexus will be unveiled. Absolutely marvelous device. I get a days worth out of the phone with maybe a short charge in the middle of the day. /rant begins: Plus why would anyone want over a days worth of charging?!?!?! Don't you have a charger right next to your bed or charge it at night when you're not awake?!?!?! Really I don't understand.../rant over...kinda..
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Do it. You got plenty of time before the next Nexus will be unveiled. Absolutely marvelous device. I get a days worth out of the phone with maybe a short charge in the middle of the day. /rant begins: Plus why would anyone want over a days worth of charging?!?!?! Don't you have a charger right next to your bed or charge it at night when you're not awake?!?!?! Really I don't understand.../rant over...kinda..
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I love the Galaxy Nexus. The biggest downside is the radio--it blows. It is close to seven months since release and none of the software radios have improved the signal quality significantly.
I was at a backyard BBQ this weekend and I couldn't get enough signal to access the internet with the phone. Right next to me was someone with the Bionic and another with the Thunderbolt, both on Verizon. They were both able to get enough bars (one) to access the internet. Here I am running JB and a nice custom kernel but unable to do anything meaningful with the phone in that backyard. GN fails all the time to grab signal where it should. I spent a lot of time inside of restaurants inside bars, clubs, people's houses without signal. What's the point of having the phone?
As for battery life, you have to change the mindset coming from iPhone with a sealed case. Batteries cost $4 each from China. I keep a few in my pocket when I go out. I typically do one or two battery swaps when I go out for the evening.
I'm wedded to this phone for now. I were in the market for a new phone, I would get the nicest Android phone with a replaceable battery that can be unlocked with a strong developer community. Whether the SIII or One X fits that bill, I don't know.
4 days on nexus and without JB it lags coming from S2 i9100.
on JB it rocks, really loving it.
only 2 issues....
no native T9 dialer, using ex dialer donate and plugins to fix the issue and looks
volume of the external speakers sucks, listening youtube videos is hell. (no solutions yet)
i like stock only so custom roms are out of question
For the price its a great device. I enjoyed it a lot. I upgraded to the GS3. The GS3 has all kinds of hardware upgrades over my GN but it also cost more. The camera upgrade is big. 2GB RAM is nice too. But for the price the Galaxy Nexus has some nice things going for it.
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4 days on nexus and without JB it lags coming from S2 i9100.
on JB it rocks, really loving it.
only 2 issues....
no native T9 dialer, using ex dialer donate and plugins to fix the issue and looks
volume of the external speakers sucks, listening youtube videos is hell. (no solutions yet)
i like stock only so custom roms are out of question
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Solution- download volume + (sound boost) from play market.
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Well as someone who had the iPhone 4s and then moved to the Galaxy Nexus I can say without a doubt that the gnex is the best phone I've ever owned. This phone is a tinkerers dream.
I easily can get a days use with juicy defender (7am-11pm 35%). I will say that the iPhone 4 has better battery than the gnex or the 4s for that matter but then you're buying outdated hardware that will get a watered down version of iOS6 when it gets released while with the gnex you get the latest unrestricted OS.
If you're only experience with Android is the Fascinate, you'll love the GNex or S3. If possible, get the GSM Nexus.
You mentioned you didn't like rooting and such on your original Fascinate...honestly if you aren't about taking advantage of the massive development available on the GN, there isn't anything to recommend it over a GS3. Touchwiz is better these days (I'd still toss it for straight google experience, though). But all indications are that samsung is taking care of it's baby now, and trying not to be the bad mother of the GS1 days.
I have a 4s and its back in its box for now... the nexus with jelly bean feels like a brand new phone no joke. I loooove it!
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Man, I recently ditched my atrix 4G about a month ago for the gnexus and I'm so glad I did. I had bought my gf the 4s for her birthday, and I'm not gonna lie- after playing around with her phone then going back to my buggy/laggy atrix, I started considering switching to the iPhone for stability. Most android phones at the time were the 'new phone of the month' crap, and although I love the functionality of android, I ultimately wanted a stable phone that would be updated to the newest OS whenever there was a release.
Before throwing in the towel, I gave the galaxy nexus a shot. This thing rocks. No lag, great dev community, first to be upgraded when there is a new os upgrade, great camera and screen size/resolution.. etc etc. This phone will not let you down, trust me man. Coming from a guy who also would turn down the Galaxy s3 for the same reason, I advise you to go android. Go android, and go whatever Google's flagship phone is. If possible, I'd hold out until Google releases their new Nexus device(s?) so you can have the latest and greatest.
I'm here to answer any questions you've got.
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I agree the GNex is the best android phone, and it is best for customization, especially when coming from iPhones.
However you also mentioned you want something that just works. Unfortunately nothing beats the iphone in this category. GNex is a high maintenance phone. From day to day task (getting find my phone to work, typing in different languages), to managing an os update. I am still struggling with issues after jellybean upgrade.
Also, Google now sucks compare to siri. It doesn't extract info from contact, ie. does not know who I am or who is my wife, her phone number. Finally I really missed imessage. Most of my friends are on ios, almost no one use Google+.
In my opinion, stay with your iPhone if you want it to just work. But get a GNex if you are bored of ios and want to tinker your phone.
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Solution- download volume + (sound boost) from play market.
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Doesn't work on jb buddy
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Doesn't work on jb buddy
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I know ..developer is working hard to make it work with jellybean:thumbup:
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Definitely get the nexus. I got mine three days ago and love it. I also bought the wife an iPhone Friday. Side by side the nexus wins hands down...without even turning them on lmao.
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The nexus is a great phone, 4.1 is very very smooth, however I'm going to go against the grain here, because of your comment "It just needs to work". The nexus is on the bleeding edge of android and sometimes problems DO crop up and can take a while to fix and in rare cases be pretty crippling (Nexus S search bug on the i9020a for example). If you can live with little quirks or willing to get your hands dirty and try to fix them yourself, then by all means get this phone, if you want something 100% trouble free, you might be better to stay with the iPhone.
The nexus however does provide you with a bloat free experience, and if you like to tinker, then it's the best choice available. I'm never sure if the verizon variant is properly supported in AOSP, if you have the option, get a GSM version (yes this means going with someone other the version) and get the phone from the play store to make sure you don't have a samsung regional variant (yakju/takju)
Best of luck on your decision.
I spent quite a while playing with my friends iPhones and when I walked into Verizon I was pretty much set on getting one because they do just work. They dont bug up, they dont lag, they just do as you ask. But I also realized how no matter whos phone I was using I felt like I was using just anyones phone. They all kind of felt the same even though people had different wallpapers and what not. I just did not get the feeling everyone had their own unique device and I like having the ability to stand out. When I went into Verizon, they never even brought the I phone out. They put the Droid 4 (which I also asked for) the GNX and the LG Enligten. As soon as they took the Nexus out of the box I was impressed. It was the right size, the screen was fantastic (I thought I wouldnt mind the screen size difference from iPhone to Nexus but I do and I cant stand to use the small iPhone screen now) I got double my data, double the memory, faster cpu. Everyone in the store said they wished it was out when they were considering their next phone so I jumped on it. At first I was a bit annoyed with ICS and its laggyness. Do yourself a huge favor, get JB and load a good kernel and from an interface perspective it dusts the iPhone for me. The only thing I wish worked better is the reception. And that is a huge core feature. I just cant tell if its a radio software issue or a antenna issue. It seems some people have fixed their phones with flashing new radios but it may just be a patch on an underlying problem. Even with that I still have no regets passing on the iPhone.

[Q] Is G2 still a solid phone? Thinking about it vs. Nexus S and MT4GS

Right now I'm on Verizon with the Droid 3. it's a okish handset but I've noticed T-Mobile's great prepaid plan options and would love to take advantage. Only issue is which phone should I get? I'm a college student, and the purpose of switching is largely to save money, so I was hoping to pay around the 200 dollar mark. I love having a hardware QWERTY device mainly because it allows me to devote the entire screen to content instead of having a keyboard pop up all the time, but also for the tactile key feel. As such, I've looked at the G2, the My Touch 4G slide, and the Nexus S. All 3 seem like great choices but I can't make up my mind.
The Nexus S is the most logical choice from a development and "longevity" standpoint, but I'd miss the keyboard. The MT4GS has a great keyboard and more RAM than the Nexus S and G2, but there seems to be a bit more action going on with the G2 overall.
So far, beyond my better judgement, I'm leaning toward the G2 hard. Think it'll remain a solid daily driver device for a while, or is it getting "up there" in terms of age, development slowdown, and relative performance? I'd plan on keeping the phone for about a year or so, maybe more.
Thanks, hopefully you'll help me straighten out my options!
cost - g2 will be less than the others, new or used
i use the g2 and my girlfriend uses the mt4gs, personally i like the g2 better, yes hers is a bit faster and yes the development is picking up there. but here the dev community is very solid and the only phone ive used with a better keyboard then the g2 is g1. a keyboard is a dealbreaker for me so nexus s, i dont even consider
but again between the other two the one thing i like about hers more is the camera but the one on the g2 is just fine. well ok we could use more ram but my phone never lags so its obviously still good enough!
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cost - g2 will be less than the others, new or used
i use the g2 and my girlfriend uses the mt4gs, personally i like the g2 better, yes hers is a bit faster and yes the development is picking up there. but here the dev community is very solid and the only phone ive used with a better keyboard then the g2 is g1. a keyboard is a dealbreaker for me so nexus s, i dont even consider
but again between the other two the one thing i like about hers more is the camera but the one on the g2 is just fine. well ok we could use more ram but my phone never lags so its obviously still good enough!
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That's exactly what I was looking for, I'm fine stepping down camera wise if it means a phone with more support than the D3 (which has some but it's never gotten a ICS/JB rom that I could use as a daily, they're plugging away at it and i totally respect the devs who work so hard) has, a qwerty keyboard, and t-mobile.
Thanks for replying! :good:
I just came over from a MT4GS (R.I.P) to the Galaxy Relay 4g and I would highly recommend the MT4GS, I can't say OVER the others as I've never had a G2 or Nexus S but the Slide zips along, especially if you get it rooted and running CM9 with all the fixes and new kernels they have going over there. The phone isn't officially supported by HTC or by T Mo anymore so there is that but let's be honest if you cared you probably wouldn't be asking here lol. All I can tell you is that you won't be disappointed with a Mytouch 4G Slide. That processor and that camera are niiiiiiice.
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I just came over from a MT4GS (R.I.P) to the Galaxy Relay 4g and I would highly recommend the MT4GS, I can't say OVER the others as I've never had a G2 or Nexus S but the Slide zips along, especially if you get it rooted and running CM9 with all the fixes and new kernels they have going over there. The phone isn't officially supported by HTC or by T Mo anymore so there is that but let's be honest if you cared you probably wouldn't be asking here lol. All I can tell you is that you won't be disappointed with a Mytouch 4G Slide. That processor and that camera are niiiiiiice.
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The processor, RAM, and camera do make the Slide a tempting device lol.
There is new mytouches 4G slide for 344 on ebay i bought one, they come in box bring charger and even headphones, and strongly recomended is way better than the G2 or even the nexus s
http://www.ebay.com/itm/281011310317?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
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There is new mytouches 4G slide for 344 on ebay i bought one, they come in box bring charger and even headphones, and strongly recomended is way better than the G2 or even the nexus s
http://www.ebay.com/itm/281011310317?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
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After taking a closer look at the MT4G Slide forums, I'm probably going to go with that. It's a more futureproof bet I suspect.
I don't have to much experience with the mt4gs but I've owned my g2 since its released and I love it. My wife owns the my4g not the slide and its the biggest piece I've ever seen, she hates it and it has a lot of issues, so I would recommend the g2
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A subject I didn't see touched on is sd card support, Neither Nexus S or Nexus 4 have micro sd card support. My last 4 devices both Windows Mobile and Android have all been qwerty devices. If u store pictures/music/apps go with a device that supports sd, The G2 is the oldest of the bunch but I feel its the best build quality then others, A few people I've asked about MT4G had to go thru replacements/returns a number of times.
G2 is also the smallest and lightest in your hand of the 3 devices u mentioned.
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I would say MT4G I see its running official CM9 plus you'll get more ram. I thinking about getting the slide 4g but I'm passing and getting a Galaxy Nexus.
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I own a desire Z (G2) - if it's intended for some frequent web browsing, it can get a bit annoying - it's slow to load/parse modern web pages...
HW keyboard is superb, overall speed is ok with available ICS/JB roms, but you can feel everywhere that it's a dated device while using it daily.
Battery is around 2 days with modest usage and wifi + data on only when U need them. If you use it as most people do, I guess it could hold up to 1 day.
If I were to buy a phone now, I'd be looking for something more modern really.

Upgrade from the GNex?

Hey guys I've been considering upgrading my phone to something better.
I'm currently using the GNex (obviously since I'm in this forum).
Are there any phones you can recommend right now that would be a good upgrade from the GNex? Or should I just wait until the Fall when Google releases their next Nexus phone? Presuming they are actually doing this...
People rave about the SGS4 but when I read about it seems very, very gimmicky.
Does anyone know for sure if Google is releasing a new phone in the Fall, or when specifically? I'm hoping it will follow the same price strategy as the Nexus 4 did, without so much hardware distribution problems....$300 top of the line unlocked Android phone...I'll be all over it this time because to me the difference between a GNex and a Nexus 4 was not huge...but this would be a 2 year difference now.
Just wait. You have the Note 3, Motorola X, possible updated HTC One, and other powerful devices coming. The Galaxy S4 and current HTC One is about to be obsolete in terms of hardware which is crazy.
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If LG will make the new NEXUS ,then i would go for note 3 ,
Plz if anyone has any news about the up-coming nexus ?
I upgraded to the S4 and am 100% satisfied although I would advise you wait a little bit longer for the rumoured devices to come out.
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looking at the motoX currently as well. For what it's worth, my dad just picked up the S4 and it is a great phone, but if you can afford to wait, you lose absolutely nothing. Don't like the Moto X, you can get the S4.
Well I just upgraded to the HTC one. It really is an awesome device, and sense 5 is an excellent skin. No lags or over the top intrusions like previous versions of sense.
The build quality is incredible. The most beautiful feeling when u pick it up in your hands. Premium. And it's a looker too. I won't even go into the twin front facing stereo speakers. They are something too.
Its the first smartphone I've had with a non removable battery as well. Battery is good for the average day comfortably.
I would say go for it. It's got excellent specs to match as well. 2 gigs of ram and quad snapdragon 600. Can't go wrong.
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Well I just upgraded to the HTC one. It really is an awesome device, and sense 5 is an excellent skin. No lags or over the top intrusions like previous versions of sense.
The build quality is incredible. The most beautiful feeling when u pick it up in your hands. Premium. And it's a looker too. I won't even go into the twin front facing stereo speakers. They are something too.
Its the first smartphone I've had with a non removable battery as well. Battery is good for the average day comfortably.
I would say go for it. It's got excellent specs to match as well. 2 gigs of ram and quad snapdragon 600. Can't go wrong.
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Yep. I did the same over the weekend. Couldn't be happier. All my friends either had the galaxy S3/S4 or an iphone, so I wanted to be different. I gotta say this phone is beautiful and very professional looking.
Build quality is great. Rooted and flashed a custom rom not even an hour after I got home. Not real big on Sense, but I can manage with it.
I still have my Gnex, in case I start to feel nostalgic and want to go back to that
The Nexus 4 is still a great device, and should be relevant for some time to come. Also, since you have a Galaxy Nexus, you probably aren't against rooting. Get an S4, or an HTC One, root it, and make it a Google Edition device. Or just flash an AOSP based rom on it.
There's always something coming out in the next few months. Figure out what features are important to you, and find a phone that matches those features.
if anything right now then I'd go with HTC One, or wait to see what the next nexus will be.

Galaxy Nexus: Do I need an upgrade?

So through work, I have acquired the moto x dev edition for verizon. My gnex is going to a good home (my father). So here are my thoughts which I am going to post on my blog. The main question, is it worth upgrading the gnex? Honestly, if you are buying a phone outright I do NOT think its worth it unless you care about a few new things. The gnex actually performs nearly as good as my new moto x (assuming you have rooted and customized it to). Here is my review:
I currently have 2 verizon phones - the galaxy nexus and the moto x from verizon. Here is what I have done to both phones before I give my review:
Gnex - I have rooted it and installed the latest 4.4 nightly from cyanogenmod. I have installed pacrom, aokp, etc as well and AOKP is definitely my favorite ROM but I am giving this phone to my father and think CM will be easiest for him as it updates itself through an OTA update.
Moto x - I have rooted it, installed Xposed (for gravitybox), deleted bloatware, and got it tether ready.
Reviews:
Speed/lag - I never noticed lag with my motox. Now that I have the moto x I am noticing where there was lag on my gnex. However, I dont think most people would notice it. It is not significant and doesnt make the phone perform any better/worse.
size - both are around the same size. the moto x is a bit smaller and screen appears to be the same size.
camera - i didnt notice a difference here and i dont really use the cams much either.
battery - much better on my motox. I get about 24hrs more. I think i got around 12-15 hours on average on my gnex and am getting 36+ on my moto x. i did have the 2200 size on my gnex too. this could be a breaking point for many people but i was able to go through the day and just charge each night with my gnex.
tethering - tethering was simple on my gnex. i just pushed the button and it works. it worked with a million tethering apps too. the moto x was not easy. it does not work with any of those apps. i had to go in and work in terminal to get tethering to work. i have a feeling i will need to do this with each OS upgrade too. I am not looking forward to it. It was not something a beginner will be able to easily do.
bloatware - none on the gnex. tons on my moto x. i had to delete it all but again this was easy once rooted.
active display - this is awesome. it is on both phones though. on the moto x its just automatically there. on my gnex i need to download dynamicnotifications app. i think each version (the app vs the native moto x app) each have some advantages over one another. this will be a preference thing but both basically function in the exact same way.
moto connect - Now this is new to me and I am really loving it. I can text - send and receive texts from my browser. This is really awesome as I work from home and dont alway have my phone on me. I can also take calls this way too. Very awesome. It could be worth upgrading for just this feature alone.
Dev support - tons of dev support for the gnex. it cant really be beat except for N5. Moto x seems good too just dont think it will ever be as good as a nexus device.
Company support - none for the gnex. phone is past its 18 months. seems like motorola is doing a great job with the moto x and I have a feeling that they will support longer than the standard 18 months given how they are still pushing this phone.
Overall that is my review. I dont think I really needed to upgrade my gnex. It was performing nearly as well as this new phone. I think it has another 1-2 years of life easily. If you do have the money though, it is worth the upgrade but its definitely not necessary.
Here is my blog post: http://raypastore.com/wordpress/2013/12/galaxy-nexus-vs-moto-x/
I'm with you, I love my Galaxy Nexus. My brother has a Droid Ultra he picked up after destroying his phone, and I gotta say my Nexus is better. People on this forum complain about being stuck with a Galaxy Nexus, I don't get it, this is the best phone I've ever played with.
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I'm with you, I love my Galaxy Nexus. My brother has a Droid Ultra he picked up after destroying his phone, and I gotta say my Nexus is better. People on this forum complain about being stuck with a Galaxy Nexus, I don't get it, this is the best phone I've ever played with.
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yea i think overall that if you are on verizon and do not want to lose unlimited that its just not worth upgrading. the gnex is such a good phone. i am moving on to my moto x but it definitely is not a significant upgrade thats for sure.
I don't understand why GSM users are still buying up the Galaxy Nexus when they should be purchasing the new Moto G.
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I don't understand why GSM users are still buying up the Galaxy Nexus when they should be purchasing the new Moto G.
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I think Moto G isn't any better in performance. Plus, it doesn't have much development as of now (not even a CM build). But to be honest I'm also tempted... though I have something else on my mind.
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AndyYan said:
I think Moto G isn't any better in performance. Plus, it doesn't have much development as of now (not even a CM build). But to be honest I'm also tempted... though I have something else on my mind.
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It might not have any Dev support but its already getting 4.4.2 kitkat from Motorola and runs pretty much stock Android ..far as performance I've yet to see a VS video but I'm sure the Moto is faster.
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I had the S3 and I had a worse experience on it than I currently do on my recently acquired VZW Nexus. There is no lag or bloatware. The only down side is battery life. I will be buying another battery. Either stock or extended. I am near a charger all day so it's not a big deal for me. I'm not tempted to flash a different ROM either because it is already an aosp phone.
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I don't understand why GSM users are still buying up the Galaxy Nexus when they should be purchasing the new Moto G.
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I seriously thought about it. I still am. I'm so used to the 4.7" display such that I fear going back to 4.5" would be too much.
Galaxy nexus was my first smartphone and it made these almost 2 years since I own it very special. A real adventure. Have bricked it, have drppoed it but it never let me down in the end.
Had a great experience with my GNex but the battery life was a real deal breaker for me. Went with the G2 and am loving the larger screen not to mention outstanding battery. Thought I would hate the UI but so far I'm ok with it and I know I can ROM it when I get bored with it. Haven't parted with the GNex yet but I'm not really seeing a need to keep it now.
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i really dont need more than my GNex, and have it with android kit-kat before some top devices is amazing..
I went from a Gnex to Droid RAZR m, only because the screen cracked on my Gnex, needless to say I miss my Gnex badly!!!
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Sticking with GNex til it dies plus I love my charging dock...
I have a spare battery so either way I'll never have to worry about running out of power.
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Sticking with GNex til it dies plus I love my charging dock...
I have a spare battery so either way I'll never have to worry about running out of power.
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Yup I feel the same way. I've been on cm 10.1.3 since september and I've experienced very minimal lag. All the 4.3/4.4 roms are just too unstable. Just the battery life sucks. Even on the 2100maH battery, the best screen on time I could get is 3 hours.I just keep the stock battery in handy for when I run out of battery.
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Yep Im doing that!
ztmike said:
I don't understand why GSM users are still buying up the Galaxy Nexus when they should be purchasing the new Moto G.
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Getting a moto g would be like buying a phone with 3 year old specs with no development, complete waste of time.At least the gnex has plenty of development but is still obsolete an crappy in the current smartphone world.Even the iPhone 4s which is 2 an a half years old beats the gnex hands down.
I love my GNex.. And with CM11 it rocks.. I will probably wait to it dies..
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Getting a moto g would be like buying a phone with 3 year old specs with no development, complete waste of time.At least the gnex has plenty of development but is still obsolete an crappy in the current smartphone world.Even the iPhone 4s which is 2 an a half years old beats the gnex hands down.
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Moto G doesnt have a 3 year old specs...
Its still quite a new phone hence lack of major development.
Furthermore we can use gravity box for many things.
For me CM11 couldnt save my GNEX it was slugglish
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Moto G doesnt have a 3 year old specs...
Its still quite a new phone hence lack of major development.
Furthermore we can use gravity box for many things.
For me CM11 couldnt save my GNEX it was slugglish
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Hmm. If you could lag a CM11-wielding GNex, then a MotoG wouldn't surprise you either. It's a Snapdragon 400 after all. Me, I feel my GNex is always as smooth even when compared to my 2 more powerful devices.
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