I want to be able to plug my GS3's USB port into a wire, or maybe do this wirelessly, and then see Android screen on a large monitor and use a mouse and keyboard to intract with the display on the large screen.
I am baffled at the idea that this is not possible... so I must be missing something?
I have a little netbook that I use in this way, and the GS3 is a much more powerful device (it can play videos that the netbook cannot manage).
Bluetooth keyboard and mouse. HDMI MHL adapter.
But why? They make a pc for that.
Gs3 is not very powerful and you won't have good resolution. Productivity will be minimal.
If you want a mobile PC grab a windows 8 tablet like the surface pro.
Do you want a desktop or a mobile device?
You could buy a transformer type tablet or build a desktop for pretty cheap.
If you want this to be mobile, that's a lot of crap to carry around... How would you even power the screen? Seems like those people who bring desktops to coffee shops.
If you want a desktop, you can come build or buy one that's much more powerful for not all that much more than the cost of hooking your phone up - and then you don't have to worry about battery life draining and overheating.
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synpax said:
I want to be able to plug my GS3's USB port into a wire, or maybe do this wirelessly, and then see Android screen on a large monitor and use a mouse and keyboard to intract with the display on the large screen.
I am baffled at the idea that this is not possible... so I must be missing something?
I have a little netbook that I use in this way, and the GS3 is a much more powerful device (it can play videos that the netbook cannot manage).
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You guys don't quiet get it. I have a powerful desktop replacement and a netbook.
But I like the idea of having all this in my pocket and just plugging into a workstation at home.
And a Microsoft Surface? EEWWwwwww.
It is possible, I'm using WD Live, no keyboard use tho, but I can stream YouTube or play files from my phone onto tv using wd and some other UpnP apps.
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Surface PRO. Not a toy like an iPad or surface rt. The Pro is a productive machine.
I dont understand.. So you want to carry a keyboard, mouse, HDMI adapter, and power cable in your pocket along with your phone?
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Surface PRO. Not a toy like an iPad or surface rt. The Pro is a productive machine.
I dont understand.. So you want to carry a keyboard, mouse, HDMI adapter, and power cable in your pocket along with your phone?
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I want to be able to plug my GS3's USB port into a wire, or maybe do this wirelessly, and then see Android screen on a large monitor and use a mouse and keyboard to intract with the display on the large screen.
I am baffled at the idea that this is not possible... so I must be missing something?
I have a little netbook that I use in this way, and the GS3 is a much more powerful device (it can play videos that the netbook cannot manage).
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If you want to be able to just plug it into yet another set of hardware at home... just go buy the stuff and plug it in.
Bluetooth is still a better deal than wired keyboard/mouse - but you still have the battery drain issue, which is why this is not a practical idea - especially since we're talking about an S3. It should be able to accept hardware input through the micro usb, but it's not really designed for that - and you'd have to get adapters and hub and why have all that crap taking up space if you already have a home system ? I wonder what would happen if you had three pieces of hardware trying to use the same micro-usb input, too (obviously, hubs work, but they have to share - and the monitor is going to want a lot of the available transfer capacity for itself) - makes more sense to just use it for HDMI to the monitor and use bluetooth for the peripherals.
If you had a phone that could run off AC only, it might fare better - since there'd be no battery constantly charging and draining and heating everything up, but the S3 won't do that.
Cool idea in theory ? Yeah. It would be great. But in practice, not so much. It would be better if the S3 could run from AC only - heck, it'd be almost a good idea. But since it can't and it lacks great cooling (since it's a compact, air-cooled phone), you're just going to be exposing the phone to high operating temperatures for extended periods of time which isn't exactly great for it.
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(Apologies if this has been asked before or if it's mind-bogglingly retarded.)
What we have with the SGS2 is remarkable - it's as powerful as a netbook, with video-out and USB host functionality.
It seems to me that carrying such a super-phone alongside a netbook would be a waste of money and effort, when the processor in the SGS2 is more than up to scratch.
So what would be the obstacles in making a "shell" that provided a laptop-like keyboard, mouse and screen, with an SGS2 where the processor, RAM and so on would normally be housed? (The SGS2 would be removable, of course.)
These are the ones I can think of:
USB/Bluetooth keyboard support - may have to be Bluetooth keyboard.
Touch input? (May have to be Bluetooth mouse, but mouse input is possible in Android)
Connecting a monitor and USB device through the same USB port (not necessary if keyboard/mouse are Bluetooth)
Battery life - just make the shell house a fat battery!
So let's say we could piece all that together - a keyboard, mouse, battery and screen in one shell. It could come out considerably cheaper and lighter than a netbook, with all the SGS2's media playback abilities, internet without having to tether, and no need to change apps when going from netbook to phone.
There's probably something I haven't thought of, but I couldn't resist posting.
Thoughts?
I would love to see something like this happen. The SGS2 will be my first Android phone, coming from WinMo, so I've no idea what is available or is possible with the OS. One reason I bought this phone was because I wanted to connect a Bluetooth keyboard (and mouse?) to it and keep it mounted on a dock or stand right below my two monitors at work, serving as an internet/chat/email computer, instead of taking my phone AND laptop to work every day.
Now I may be mistaken, but MHL doesn't support simultaneous USB and HDMI out, so if you wanted to connect input devices AND have monitor out, I'd guess the keyboard and mouse would have to be Bluetooth, as you've mentioned. One thing that interests me is something the Wiki entry mentions:
"The HDTV remote will control the connected device with guaranteed mixed manufacturer interoperability."
So perhaps one day we might see some SGS2 "lapdock" like the Atrix?
Check out what the guy says at 8:50 in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtwTcnR0hqA
He says, basically, that he can connect the device to a tv through MHL, connect a BT keyboard and mouse, then sit back on his couch and use his device like a living room PC.
Bump...
Any news?
I put it in the top lid of my logitech dinovo mini with some rubber bands.
Looks like sh*t, but works really well!
//Gunnar
You won't be able to do a full netbook, because the microUSB connector on the SGS2 can be used either as microUSB or MHL (HDMI video out + charger input); the two functions of the connector are mutually exclusive. So, if you're piping the SGS2's video out to the shell's display, you have no USB, and if you're using the USB, there's no external video.
You might be able to use some kind of remoting software to work around this & use the USB functionality of the SGS2; the shell would have something like a VNC client installed, then connect to server software on the SGS2 (over WiFi or BT networking).
Hm, are you 100% sure about them being mutually exclusive?
GunnarKarlsson said:
I put it in the top lid of my logitech dinovo mini with some rubber bands.
Looks like sh*t, but works really well!
//Gunnar
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Interesting, but I would still prefer a full size keyboard.
How is it connected? USB? BT?
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You might be able to use some kind of remoting software to work around this & use the USB functionality of the SGS2; the shell would have something like a VNC client installed, then connect to server software on the SGS2 (over WiFi or BT networking).
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No idea how this can be realized. Afaik, there is a VNC client installed, but no server.
Guess it is easier to try what is mentioned above :
Use NHL to get the monitor working and BT for the keyboard. Would be good to have some profile, which enables the BT keyboard when NHL is plugged, maybe through locale or so.
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I know this thread is kinda old now, but some recent tech news brought this idea back to memory for me. ICE Computer showed a docking tablet they call Trinity at Computex 2011, which apparently can be made to dock with nearly any phone or even a PC module. I didn't find too much info that wasn't regurgitated between sites, but it sounds like they won't be selling it themselves, rather they'll sell it to other companies who want one for their device.
My hope is they'll sell some kind of universal version that takes different phones and maybe just requires a different-shaped module for different phones. Here's a link to the Engadget post, but there are other pages that describe what it does and when it should be available.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/01/ice-computer-shows-off-trinity-modular-tablet-concept-aims-for/
Add a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse, perhaps a stand, and voila!
Need a solution like this
1) MHL output to a tv/ monitor
2) Bluetooth keyboard and mouse work over HID profile
3) Remote Desktop software that allows use of external keyboard and mouse and which can output native resolution rather than just mirroring the screen.
Hey guys,
I wonder if there is a way to connect our x8 with a tv, that would be nice, Seeing the extra connectors on the earphones jack, i can only assume that there is some special cable that plugs there.
Plus a bluetooth keyboard will make going online lot easier, connected to your TV?
Maybe a ebay link if someone knows?
No there is no way to connect x8 to TV, that connector is for earphones with controls
Apparently, I think there is a way See the screen on TV.
I'm sure there is an app for x8 that streams the screen to a PC. After this, you only have to connect the PC to the TV. Hope this helps.
Asycid said:
Apparently, I think there is a way See the screen on TV.
I'm sure there is an app for x8 that streams the screen to a PC. After this, you only have to connect the PC to the TV. Hope this helps.
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there is an app to stream the x8 screen to a pc? over what usb? and how do you watch it?
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you could mod the lcd flex cable to a vga/dvi plug though i dont think there is enough space for the cables and how the data is transmissions in the flax cable (what codec)...
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there is an app to stream the x8 screen to a pc? over what usb? and how do you watch it?
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It streams through LAN or Internet.
Check out this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reQqW3Oj0go
Asycid said:
It streams through LAN or Internet.
Check out this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reQqW3Oj0go
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nice but i think it would defy his use since if he could/wanted to connect a PC to a TV he wouldnt need the phone to surf.
BierLiebHaber said:
nice but i think it would defy his use since if he could/wanted to connect a PC to a TV he wouldnt need the phone to surf.
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But this way, he gets the keyboard too!
BTW I tried this software and I must say it's really impressive. Only backshot is that its FPS is about 4-5 what is not so much. BUT if you want to show pictures to the whole family, it can be a more easier way than to upload them to the PC.
If you have a wireless headset, you even can control your phone calls from the PC too! Not to mention that you can easily write SMS with keyboard instead of the touch screen.
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you could mod the lcd flex cable to a vga/dvi plug though i dont think there is enough space for the cables and how the data is transmissions in the flax cable (what codec)...
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LOL!
Srsly, how can people even suggest things like these?
If you don't know about what you are talking about then ask first.
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LOL!
Srsly, how can people even suggest things like these?
If you don't know about what you are talking about then ask first.
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why i suggested it since its pretty much the only way to get the x8 image on a TV screen without a PC and LAN.
plus:
I know for a fact that ppl hacked their GBCs and GBs to have a VGA connection so it should be possible... I didnt say I could do it but it would be possible.
BierLiebHaber said:
why i suggested it since its pretty much the only way to get the x8 image on a TV screen without a PC and LAN.
plus:
I know for a fact that ppl hacked their GBCs and GBs to have a VGA connection so it should be possible... I didnt say I could do it but it would be possible.
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"its pretty much the only way to get the x8 image on a TV screen without a PC and LAN" and still you insist this is possible...
And about the gameboy example, google how they did it and tell me if it's as easy and feasible as you think.
If it is possible, it's certainly not on the lcd flex..
Nikkopt said:
"its pretty much the only way to get the x8 image on a TV screen without a PC and LAN" and still you insist this is possible...
And about the gameboy example, google how they did it and tell me if it's as easy and feasible as you think.
If it is possible, it's certainly not on the lcd flex..
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yes i am insisting that it is possible but i didnt say it was feasible or easy (or should be done by me or the topc starter)
about the gameboy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fX7143X_gQ
once again not easy or feasible but that wasnt the point i was trying to make. i just said it is (read would be) possible.
BierLiebHaber said:
yes i am insisting that it is possible but i didnt say it was feasible or easy (or should be done by me or the topc starter)
about the gameboy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fX7143X_gQ
once again not easy or feasible but that wasnt the point i was trying to make. i just said it is (read would be) possible.
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This is what you said :
"you could mod the lcd flex cable to a vga/dvi plug though i dont think there is enough space for the cables and how the data is transmissions in the flax cable (what codec)..."
It just says here he could "mod" the flex so he could connect a vga/dvi plug on it, you are just unsure if the wires could fit or not, you also state that what passes tru the flex is a video stream but i'm not even touching that subject.
So ok, you just solder some wires to the flex or the flex header, attach the other end of the wires to the dvi/vga plug and you are done.
Now look at the video you sent me, the guy is using an altera dev board (looks like a cyclone II starter, which costs more than 200 dollars) to poorly convert the simple lcd signals of the gameboy pocket into vga. Now imagine doing the same thing into something 5000x more complex and that uses a completely different signaling interface. Can it be done? Probably yes, with equipment that costs thousands and thousands of dollars and an intelligent guy with solid knowledge in electronics. Imagine how many phones with hdmi you could buy with that money.
Also, it would be easier to find a video out on the SOC pins than doing that (if it has one)
Nikkopt said:
This is what you said :
"you could mod the lcd flex cable to a vga/dvi plug though i dont think there is enough space for the cables and how the data is transmissions in the flax cable (what codec)..."
It just says here he could "mod" the flex so he could connect a vga/dvi plug on it, you are just unsure if the wires could fit or not, you also state that what passes tru the flex is a video stream but i'm not even touching that subject.
So ok, you just solder some wires to the flex or the flex header, attach the other end of the wires to the dvi/vga plug and you are done.
Now look at the video you sent me, the guy is using an altera dev board (looks like a cyclone II starter, which costs more than 200 dollars) to poorly convert the simple lcd signals of the gameboy pocket into vga. Now imagine doing the same thing into something 5000x more complex and that uses a completely different signaling interface. Can it be done? Probably yes, with equipment that costs thousands and thousands of dollars and an intelligent guy with solid knowledge in electronics. Imagine how many phones with hdmi you could buy with that money.
Also, it would be easier to find a video out on the SOC pins than doing that (if it has one)
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ok i have to admit i have made it sound too easy but i didnt mean just solder wires to the felx header and plug them into a vga or dvi plug. (and yes i do know that you dont transmision video streams to the lcd...)
anyways next time I'll be carefull not to write something that i didnt think about for less that 20 secs *sry*
Isn't this phone too weak to do that anyway? ;P
Ipod classic 4th generation can do that, it is freaking let down that a 2010 phone cannot!
ivanjkd said:
Ipod classic 4th generation can do that, it is freaking let down that a 2010 phone cannot!
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It's a basic phone, if you want more features you have to buy one more expensive
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I remember i've connected my laptop to our TV via HDMI a while ago, so with this it should be done easily with one of those screen streaming programs.
Connecting a 3.5mm to 3.55mm jack cable between the line-out and line-in of the pc would also give sound.
Though i don't think you meant getting a PC with it along
The special hole along the audio cable is for microphone, if you have a Nintendo DS, you'll find the same connector below, i think.
Lol
xperia x8 + root + ginger dx v013 (2.3.5)+multitouch
1. Install DroidExplorer on your computer
2. Enable USB Debug on your device
3. Plugin the usb cable on your phone and computer (you need to have the phone drivers installed on your computer, or SE PC Suite)
4. Open DroidExplorer and find the ScreenCast or whatelse and...
5. Connect your computer to your TV
6. Thank me in this post
Was just reading a post on gizmodo about best wireless keyboards link here... and finally found good use to my lenovo bluetooth keyboard sitting in the closet... it paired up with my phone absolutely no problem, now I can take notes and type like never before...
Take that, tiny blackberry keyboard.
Done it with a Logitech Android Bluetooth keyboard and a Thermaltake Bluetooth mouse. Awaiting arrival of my MHL adapter so I can hook up to a spare monitor.
going to buy a asus, transformer prime for that!
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xpanmanx said:
Done it with a Logitech Android Bluetooth keyboard and a Thermaltake Bluetooth mouse. Awaiting arrival of my MHL adapter so I can hook up to a spare monitor.
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I'm also tempted by this concept. I think there would be a transition period where I moved all of my media and everyday use to my phone (with a keyboard and mouse and full size monitor)...and I bet it would be rapid and I'd only keep my PC for the only thing anyone uses PCs for anymore: Content production.
The only time I *need* a PC is for work stuff: Photoshop, Vegas, excel. Also Audition and a few other pro audio apps out of work...and I'm sure the excel thing could be taken out the the equation pretty quickly.
Everything else? Media consumption, web browsers, communications, etc...all on the phone and/or tablet now. To be able to take my main computer with me would be fantastic...it would also make PocketCloud infinitely more useful on a full screen with a full desktop interface (kb/mouse/full screen).
This is going to happen. Between "the cloud" and our own smaller clouds (home networks, SAN/NAS/Home Servers, media sharing hardware, etc) keeping a quad core 300-500 watt behemoth around is getting less and less necessary.
The only grey area so far is 'games', but, most people consume those on game consoles so that's likely a moot point.
...an interesting time to be alive in many ways, technology especially.
Yeah I did this as well. I never could pair it to my original epic.
Sent my from IPad!
Do we need a Bluetooth USB received or do they pair directly with the phone?
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djjosh said:
Do we need a Bluetooth USB received or do they pair directly with the phone?
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Mine does it directly from the phone. So easy. Just do it like u normally would and then enter the passsworr that it makes up on the keyboard and then it pairs and connects.
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Has anyone found a work around for the home button on the logitech tablet keyboard??? MY home button on my keyboard does not do anything. I have tried a combination of other buttons to see if i could get the same action with no luck. just wondering if anyone eles has had any luck???
http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-kills-keyboard-dock-for-galaxy-tabs-11268778/
So thats why we never got note 10.1 keyboard in US.
I still fancied the dock....
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I really wanted a transformer style dock, but using the oem cover to make it so that you can type comfortably works well.
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I really wanted a transformer style dock, but using the oem cover to make it so that you can type comfortably works well.
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I agree. This 30 pin connector, proprietary charging, no HDMI, coupled with no JB 4.2 so no miracast, this is one disconnected, connected, wired and shackled but supposedly mobile device.
I've only had it for three weeks and I miss a more connected, but liberated device.
It's frustrating cause this could be soooooo good.
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Too bad, the idea of a keyboard dock that also charged seemed good
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deecee52 said:
I agree. This 30 pin connector, proprietary charging, no HDMI, coupled with no JB 4.2 so no miracast, this is one disconnected, connected, wired and shackled but supposedly mobile device.
I've only had it for three weeks and I miss a more connected, but liberated device.
It's frustrating cause this could be soooooo good.
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Hdmi....would never use it....what to shackle it up to my tv? Pretty sure micro USB is not feasible for 2 amp charging. This baby already is soooooo good.
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Hdmi....would never use it....what to shackle it up to my tv? Pretty sure micro USB is not feasible for 2 amp charging. This baby already is soooooo good.
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my playbook, and my note 2 use 2 amp chargers. I just lucked or on the 30 pin connector because I had a mini usb to 30 pin connector for my tab 2 7.0, and an extra cable.
The tf300 was a dream to type on with the dock, but honestly, my note 10.1 kicks the crap out of it. The oem cover works great, with the exception of a lot of e's that come out 3.
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I had no idea that this was happening.
It would be awesome if Samsung could come up with a transformer-esque type of keyboard/cover, or even a touch-cover like the Surface.
It makes the idea of a "Note netbook/laptop" a good one, but with two separated accessories i.e. stand + bluetooth keyboard, that idea is gone.
Shame :/
The tablet must be a tablet, not a computer if you want a computer buy it separately. A tablet is made for commands through touchscreen, if you want to have a tablet with dock keyboard buy a tablet-pc ( i own one..)
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This 30 pin connector, proprietary charging, no HDMI, coupled with no JB 4.2 so no miracast
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Eh? I can find the Samsung connector (which is actually a standard called "PDMI") just about anywhere (at least in the States), I've got more charger options now than i had with my Moto Xoom, especially if you buy one of these. HDMI and AllShare Cast work on my device, too.
I've used 4.2 and we're not really missing much useful save the multi-user feature.
I have 4 BT Keyboards, including one with a built-in stick mouse and a cover that folks to make a stand; the combo (which is light enough I carry it around in a case with my Note) gives me everything I could get with the KB dock except maybe charging and it's apparently more portable as well.
I'd say we're pretty well-connected
A charging keyboard dock would have been bad ass.
FlagshipX said:
A charging keyboard dock would have been bad ass.
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seriously though, the battery life on the note 10 is pretty good, I would like the extra peripherals, like the full size sd and usb ports on the transformer docks.
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dei.andrei98 said:
The tablet must be a tablet, not a computer if you want a computer buy it separately. A tablet is made for commands through touchscreen, if you want to have a tablet with dock keyboard buy a tablet-pc ( i own one..)
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What I want is to travel without two toons of devices
Just one which does anything I need. And a tablet with (a good) keyboard can do that.
dayr said:
What I want is to travel without two tons of devices ... And a tablet with (a good) keyboard can do that.
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This. I've been able to travel with only my tablet (on certain business trips even) and have most of what i'd needed to do be accessible that way.
I went to verizon yesterday & saw a Samsung branded Keyboard dock for the Tab10.1. I tried it with the display model Tab 2 10.1 & it fit. I thought that the Tab 210.1 & the Note 10.1 were the same size. I was gutted to find it was not. It works if you pull out the plastic guide/holder, but then it is kind of flimsy in there. Bummer.
Wasnt there a rumor somewhere that one of Samsungs next tablets was going to be transformer-esque? I could have sworn I read something a few months ago about it.
Chocu1a said:
I went to verizon yesterday & saw a Samsung branded Keyboard dock for the Tab 10.1 ... I thought that the Tab2 10.1 & the Note 10.1 were the same size. I was gutted to find it was not.
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Well, with the GNote 10.1 LTE coming to VZ soon, I'd expect they'd be getting accessories there, too (and likely to be hugely overpriced), so I'd come back again a little while after the GNote's available in VZ stores.
Tempted to grab one off ebay. What can I say, sometimes I get typity.
dei.andrei98 said:
The tablet must be a tablet, not a computer if you want a computer buy it separately. A tablet is made for commands through touchscreen, if you want to have a tablet with dock keyboard buy a tablet-pc ( i own one..)
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That sounds sort of narrow-minded in my opinion. Why can't a tablet be both or why can't a computer be a tablet? For an artist like me, I would love the opportunity if tablets got powerful enough to rival their notebook counterparts and offered a desktop view as well as for easy access with a keyboard and trackpad.
With the move of ultrabooks , especially the Surface Pro, converging into tablet territory with full features, one must consider that to be a blessing than a curse. Think about it in this way: Would you carry a radio, cd player , portable DVD player with TV, game system and an ereader just to be able to use them, or would you opt for the simpler solution of an all in one deal? That is the number one reason why the iPod took off: portability. Not only can you get a radio, but a music player and now video, games and reading.
It gets roughly cumbersome to carry every single CD, DVD ,game cart/disc in addition to the hardware , let alone the books for brief reading in commutes in comparison to an all out deal.
For the average consumer and artist, such things are so hard to get that it is pushed towards the rich ,but now similar tech now exists that has the potential to allow for maximal power and capability and the ability to change form factors on the fly. Why should people have to be inconvenienced to buying several different products that can be brought under one device when it can be deducted into one singular product that is amazing and does it all , broadly speaking?
If we went by this flawed logic an mp3 player must play music only, but no radio , thus how would iPods and whatnot be popular if they didn't serve multiple functions simply?
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Eh? I can find the Samsung connector (which is actually a standard called "PDMI") just about anywhere (at least in the States), I've got more charger options now than i had with my Moto Xoom, especially if you buy one of these. HDMI and AllShare Cast work on my device, too.
I've used 4.2 and we're not really missing much useful save the multi-user feature.
I have 4 BT Keyboards, including one with a built-in stick mouse and a cover that folks to make a stand; the combo (which is light enough I carry it around in a case with my Note) gives me everything I could get with the KB dock except maybe charging and it's apparently more portable as well.
I'd say we're pretty well-connected
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Thanks.....I think. Glad to hear about the PDMI. Just have to figure out how to use it.
What I was trying too say is everything is an add on so my kit ends up being as bulky as my ultrabook and far more prone to losing some piece that makes the whole thing work. my last tablet logged about 100k+/- frequent flyer miles. Using one power brick with one power end, one multi headed usb, one multi headed hdmi, one universal battery charger brick fit neatly in an airplane amenity bag, and served two cameras, one phone and a tablet. Needed no OTG cable to get the CF card reader seen by the tablet. Because I have a GNex, I already have a data/sync switch on my usb cable.
The cameras are the hardest and heaviest to carry.
So far, I've had to add another amenity kit to add the adapters for the Note. And I still don't have a way of using it to run a projector or tv. My phone ends up doing that.
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Just bought one, stock is running out everywhere.
Time to think about soldering a split cable data/charging, and if that works hdmi.
Hope it's as nice as said, but returning is always an option in NL.:good:
Ok, so this is a really silly idea, is there a way to use my Note 10.1 as a secondary monitor from my graphics card? I'm using an ASUS MARS 760 with a DVI converter and was wondering if it was possible to plug it into the HDMI to MiniUSB on my note and use the note as a 2560X1600 Display. The main reason is so that I can have a 299 DPI while playing Watchdogs/Skyrim. The Operating system of the display computer is Window 8.1 SP1
A further question is, while using this set up is there a way to use the Speakers, Wacom pressure touchscreen and the front camera built into the note as well? Essentially making this thing a hybrid of a Ciniq and an all in one monitor and an intended touch screen for Windows 8.1. The graphics card also has a Mini Displayport output.
Thanks!
So an update:
TwoMon and iDisplay work great as a second monitor if you're using the graphics from the processor via usb, so games that are meant to work with intel graphics go without much of a hitch (save for the 40FPS of the programs... but I don't know much about modding apk files. Let alone screen refresh rates). So far no go with the graphics card. I still haven't figured out if there's a way to get a tablet to accept input via an HML cable. Does anyone know if this is possible? Or am I just wasting my time on a futile effort?
MHL etc on Tablets and Phones is strictly for output. Which is a shame, as using it for such things could be cool.
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JunoZXV said:
Ok, so this is a really silly idea, is there a way to use my Note 10.1 as a secondary monitor from my graphics card? I'm using an ASUS MARS 760 with a DVI converter and was wondering if it was possible to plug it into the HDMI to MiniUSB on my note and use the note as a 2560X1600 Display. The main reason is so that I can have a 299 DPI while playing Watchdogs/Skyrim. The Operating system of the display computer is Window 8.1 SP1
A further question is, while using this set up is there a way to use the Speakers, Wacom pressure touchscreen and the front camera built into the note as well? Essentially making this thing a hybrid of a Ciniq and an all in one monitor and an intended touch screen for Windows 8.1. The graphics card also has a Mini Displayport output.
Thanks!
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I'm not quite sure what you're trying to do, but I've been thinking about using my tablet as a second screen or remote display for Win8. I plan to get Microsoft's Remote Desktop for Android, but need to get the 8.1 Pro upgrade to make it work. I might also try JUMP Desktop, which also requires 8.1 Pro, and has full touchscreen support, making it just like using a Win 8.1 tablet, but remotely. I have a good university network so it should work well from all over campus. I'm just hoping I can get the full resolution and can do it headless with just a desktop with no monitor and my old GTS 450 in it. Almost definitely not good enough lag-wise for gaming though.
Remote Desktop?
How about just running a remote desktop like Splashtop and using it like a windows tablet.
Try and get the fastest wireless connection you can setup and it should work pretty reasonably fast as a remote desktop.
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MHL etc on Tablets and Phones is strictly for output. Which is a shame, as using it for such things could be cool.
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Dangit. Well at least that's what I was looking for. Do you think it might be possible to find a cable that could take an HDMI and put it to USB micro? Or perhaps Mini Display Port?
@deV14nt
I need it to be wired. Doing gaming via wireless is really laggy. Basically I'm trying to use my tablet as a 1600p monitor for gaming. Wireless would cause too much latency. I'll look into JUMP desktop and Remote desktop to see if the pressure sensitivity can work for drawing.
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I'll give splashtop a try too.
What I'm trying to do is have a high resolution display with a PPI of 299 so that way I can play my games and see the entire screen on 10 instead of 24+ inches. From far enough away I should be able to make out what's going on my tablet without grain and just see the polygons. Making the most of Anti Aliasing.
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Dangit. Well at least that's what I was looking for. Do you think it might be possible to find a cable that could take an HDMI and put it to USB micro? Or perhaps Mini Display Port?
@deV14nt
I need it to be wired. Doing gaming via wireless is really laggy. Basically I'm trying to use my tablet as a 1600p monitor for gaming. Wireless would cause too much latency. I'll look into JUMP desktop and Remote desktop to see if the pressure sensitivity can work for drawing.
@warboat
I'll give splashtop a try too.
What I'm trying to do is have a high resolution display with a PPI of 299 so that way I can play my games and see the entire screen on 10 instead of 24+ inches. From far enough away I should be able to make out what's going on my tablet without grain and just see the polygons. Making the most of Anti Aliasing.
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Are you going to be gaming on the 10" screen at your desk, or you want it as a portability option? To play while you're connected to the school LAN from across campus?
JunoZXV said:
Ok, so this is a really silly idea, is there a way to use my Note 10.1 as a secondary monitor from my graphics card? I'm using an ASUS MARS 760 with a DVI converter and was wondering if it was possible to plug it into the HDMI to MiniUSB on my note and use the note as a 2560X1600 Display. The main reason is so that I can have a 299 DPI while playing Watchdogs/Skyrim. The Operating system of the display computer is Window 8.1 SP1
A further question is, while using this set up is there a way to use the Speakers, Wacom pressure touchscreen and the front camera built into the note as well? Essentially making this thing a hybrid of a Ciniq and an all in one monitor and an intended touch screen for Windows 8.1. The graphics card also has a Mini Displayport output.
Thanks!
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You do realize that when your as far away from your monitor as you should be, that dpi is pointless? Its the same reason why only really huge tvs need 4k.
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Are you going to be gaming on the 10" screen at your desk, or you want it as a portability option? To play while you're connected to the school LAN from across campus?
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Wired. I want to take the output of my graphics card and put it into the 10" screen. While playing across a range would be sweet, there's only a few devices that Iknow that can do that wirelessly, and that's because they have TEGRA 4 chips but they don't have high enough resolution. Doing a wired connection means that the tablet doesn't die from power drain and has direct reception from the graphics card.
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You do realize that when your as far away from your monitor as you should be, that dpi is pointless? Its the same reason why only really huge tvs need 4k.
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Yes, I do realize. I have eyes. However, your questions don't really help. I'm trying to get the output of a graphics card and use my tablet as the monitor. IT's not a matter of pointless DPI, it's a matter of using a table as a display for high end graphics.
The reason for the 10 inch real estate is to cut down on space as well as the effect of tunnel vision. Having 2560x1600 pixels in a smaller real estate enables me to see everything on screen in one view instead of having to shift my gaze momentairly to glance the corners.
I used to think that too. But I saw data on what DPI humans could perceive at a given distance. It's definitely way higher than I thought at 1-2 feet. We still have a ways to go past 300 DPI, regardless of what Apple might say about Retina.
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Wired. I want to take the output of my graphics card and put it into the 10" screen. While playing across a range would be sweet, there's only a few devices that Iknow that can do that wirelessly, and that's because they have TEGRA 4 chips but they don't have high enough resolution. Doing a wired connection means that the tablet doesn't die from power drain and has direct reception from the graphics card.
Yes, I do realize. I have eyes. However, your questions don't really help. I'm trying to get the output of a graphics card and use my tablet as the monitor. IT's not a matter of pointless DPI, it's a matter of using a table as a display for high end graphics.
The reason for the 10 inch real estate is to cut down on space as well as the effect of tunnel vision. Having 2560x1600 pixels in a smaller real estate enables me to see everything on screen in one view instead of having to shift my gaze momentairly to glance the corners.
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As far as I know, there is no native solution to make the tablet act like a regular display that accepts input, you could try taking it apart and hack something together I suppose. To the best of my knowledge, sitting the recommended distance from 27 inch monitor let's you see all of it in one view easily. Basically unless you really just want to have a tiny tablet monitor for the sake of having it, there really isn't a reason. I could definitely get behind having a cheapo wacom slate tho lol.
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As far as I know, there is no native solution to make the tablet act like a regular display that accepts input, you could try taking it apart and hack something together I suppose. To the best of my knowledge, sitting the recommended distance from 27 inch monitor let's you see all of it in one view easily. Basically unless you really just want to have a tiny tablet monitor for the sake of having it, there really isn't a reason. I could definitely get behind having a cheapo wacom slate tho lol.
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Well it's been a while. I manged to get the tablet to work up to 40 frames using the USB to Micro cable However this is using a third party app and it's laggy as all heck when it comes to gaming (Display wise it is pretty, so movies are a go-go). It does however work great for non intensive things like Office or internet browsing.
I'm trying to figure out if there's a way to create a driver that will enable me to have it preform the way I want (by reversing the input of the HDMI to Micro USB)
Could you provide more details?
Root?