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Ok, i've been looking around and have found a few, but I was wondering what everyone else is using.
I need to use my phone for business, and quite honestly, the built in contacts app is lacking a few features. The worst is lacking the ability to sort contacts by company name or last name.
If you have replaced your contacts app, please let me know which one you are using and what you think about it.
Thanks!
If you're using Froyo, you can open up contacts, menu, More, Display options, then pick Sort order (and some other configurable settings).
I've tried a couple contact managers in the past.. and none were any good. I would just search appbrain or androidzoom.com, etc.
Hope that tip helps though.
sent from my RAZR
Thanks, I have played with Froyo a bit, but went back to Eclair due to some issues. I was thinking of trying the latest release, so thanks for the info.
I have searched though the app stores and have found a few, but based off of reviews and lack of updates, I didn't feel they were all that good.
I wish I had the time to learn to code, I would just make one myself...
Ok...i'm off to play with Froyo
Well, Froyo does allow sorting by last name, but it does not offer any other sorting methods
Anyone else have any experience with alternative contact managers?
i have an epic, running 2.2, and using launch pro plus they have a people widget, works pretty good
Haven't had a good business contact manager since I got rid of the Treo 755p. Maybe if enough people rag on Dataviz they will port over their contacts database called: Beyond Contacts
I'll take a look at the widget, but I'm looking more for a true contact manager.
Beyond Contacts would be a promising port if they were interested.
I am surprised with all the apps that are out there that a decent contact manager doesn't seem to exist.
Have you tried Youlu Address Book?
http://www.appbrain.com/app/youlu-address-book/com.youlu
I think its pretty slick.
kiekan said:
Have you tried Youlu Address Book?
http://www.appbrain.com/app/youlu-address-book/com.youlu
I think its pretty slick.
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pressed your thanks button by mistake, youlu is good, but doesnt have # or * buttons !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I've been able to group my contacts into countless categories, and even put contacts into multiple categories (friends and coworkers for example) once I logged onto my contacts list via Gmail, creating my own categories, clicking the checkbox that the person applies to and then automatically gets synced it to my phone. I have to click a few times (Phone > Contacts> Groups > Google) to get into those categories vs just going directly to my list, but its still easier and almost quicker to use then when I was using ContactsGroupU on my Moment.
Morning all,
Need some help and guidance. I am looking for a good unified messaging application that will allow me to pull together the following messaging services into one inbox view:
1) Exchange - importing authentication information from default app
2) SMS/MMS
3) Facebook
4) RSS
5) News Feeds
I had a Blackberry previously, and their default messaging app allowed me to add services when I wanted them to show up in the unified view. Is there something good that works on the android platform?
I have done some research on this and things like My Message and K-9 seem to bring pieces but not everything.
Thanks,
Steve
any app do it ? i search and nothing
I haven't seen a app for Android that brings everything together.
The only solutions I can think of aggregate half of your list not the entire list. "Pulse" can combine #3-5, but I don't know of anything that collects all five in one place.
Pure Messenger does everything except the RSS/News feeds
This thread is dedictated strictly to specific advantages / disadvantages / differences / similarities of Mango compared to the iPhone 4S.
READ THIS ENTIRE POST BEFORE POSTING IN THIS THREAD
Both platforms have strengths. Both have weaknesses.
It will also be dedictated to differences in some core applications.
Some applications are not available to both platforms. Those will also be identified.
I will be reserving the first 5 posts to update specific differences.
I will also be reserving the next 5 posts, in case I want to expand to additional differences or comparisons.
I currently own an LG Quantum with Mango and an iPhone 4S. The Quantum is my personal phone. The iPhone was provided by work. I am not restricting the comparison to 1st generation Windows Phone hardware, but it is all I have to test with. Mango is Mango though, with few exceptions.
I actually really like both phones.
Post #2 dedicated to advatages of Windows Phone.
Post #3 dedicated to advatages of iPhone 4S
Post #4 dedicated to application differences.
Post #5 dedicated to application availability.
Please post replies with information you would like to see added to the posts.
Please post replies with other things you would like to see compared.
Keep all posts on topic. Be respectful. Do not bash other users or their posts.
I do not have an Android device. This thread is not a comparison to Android. Posts about android will be considered off topic and should not be responded to.
Keep in mind the forum rules and rule 15 regarding staying on topic.
As I discover information, I will update the 1st 10 posts as needed. Also, based on user posts, I will update the 1st 10 posts, if I am able to verify the information.
This thread is about specific advantages and disadvantages. So, when posting, please provide specific details. It is also intended to not be opinion based. Some opinion will be unavoidable, but facts should always be given. When posting for something to be added, it is also helpful if you can come up with the line to add to describe the advantage. I can usually do this, but copy and paste is alot easier.
Again:
This thread is about identifying specific advantages / disadvantages / differences / similarities between the two. Specific being the key.
General statements serve no purpose and only clutter the thread. There are 11000+ views of this thread. If everyone posted general opinions, the thread would quickly lose value and no longer be maintainable by me. I would be forced to close it or not maintain it.
I welcome and encourage posts that identify specific advantages / disadvantages / differences / similarities between the two platforms. Of course the first 10 posts should always be checked first to see if they have already been identified.
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Mango Advantages
1. Pairing with blue tooth headsets and car stereos is more consistant. Although the iPhone 4S supports A2DP to play music. The iPhone 4S will not automatically pair to play audio through my Pioneer 7000BT. My Mango phone does. The iPhone does automatically pair to support phone calls through bluetooth. There are also some A2DP devices that the iPhone fully supports, but not all. Even when my iPhone 4S is paired with my car stereo for music, the car stereo controls do not work to control the track. This is because the iPhone 4S does not support AVCRP for many devices.
2. Large tiles make it easy to operate with one hand using your thumb. Live Tiles also have larger text making things easier to read. Clicking the icons on an iPhone is not as easily done in a one handed if you have big thumbs.
3. The people hub. A whole post could be dedicated to this. Post dedicated to the People Hub There was also a good write up on this at wpcentral WPCentral - People Hub Overview
4. A back button. Many screens on the iPhone put a back type button on it. It generally is in the upper left. It does not usually say back. And it is not always there. It is up to the app dev to put it in.
5. Many common tasks do not require a seperate app. See Post #23 for some examples. Most of these tasks have free apps available for iPhone, so it is not a huge advatage. But the integration of all this is very nice on Windows Phone 7. Facebook, Twitter, Linked In.
6. Choice of hardware. Some phones have a physical keyboard, such as the LG Quantum. No iPhone has a keyboard. The new Nokia 900 has a screen that is also good in sunlight like the iPhone.
7. Linked Inbox or multiple linked inboxes for selected accounts without linking all accounts. You can keep your work email in a seperate pinable account than all your personal accounts. This is very useful so the indicator will let you know if you have an email that is for work. And other non work emails will increment the indicator on the other tile or tiles.
8. Picture hub - Gives access to all you pics, including facebook pics and facebook contact pics. There was also a good write up on this at wpcentral WPCentral - Picture Hub Overview
9. Me hub - lets you update facebook status and see facebook updates that you care about.
10. (this was a duplicate, so I removed it, but left it in it's place rather than renumber)
11. Browser allows pinch to zoom when rendering a site usintg HTML5 and Canvas. (Tested with both using a site internally developed at the company I work for.) Ironically the web application was designed for the iPad. I can actually use it with Windows Phone 7, but everything is too small on the iPhone to be useful. I cannot share the URL. Work would not like that. Of course, since it is targetting the iPad, it works well on it.
12. Seperate list that shows unread mail. iPhone only gives and indicator by each unread message. This makes reading your unread mail easier.
13. Live Tile indicators for email and messages are not unread messages, but amount of new messages since you last pressed the tile to see the messages. (I don't need to mark 50 messages as read to get rid of the notification). Seeing the list is enough to clear the indicator. You can still see which ones have not been read.
Some advantage pointed out by sayonical here Post 31
14. Micorosoft Office is included at no extra charge.
15. Turn By Tap directions. Although you need to tap, it will recalculate if you deviate from the route after a tap.
Some OEMs such as HTC and Nokia provide applications built in to do tap free Turn by Turn directions. With the iPhone a 3rd party not built in app is always required to accomplish this.
Both HTC Locations and Nokia's app also provide offline navigation.
HTC Locations offline mode is free for 30 days, but Nokia's app is free with a Nokia phone.
HTC Locations online mode may be free after the 30 days. Someone that is using it for more than 30 days or can no longer use it after 30 days, please post so I can update this.
16. Bing integrates alot of functionality, such as barcode reading, music identification, applications for your search, local scout. (There is a Bing app for free for the iPhone by Microsoft, but it's included with Windows Phone)
17. Ability to edit meeting notes to meetings that you did not create. The edits are for you only, but do make the update in exchange. Post 41
18. SIP Keyboard (on screen) is bigger and changes the display to reflect the case A vs a, so you know what you are going to type. Useful when entering passwords.
19. Built in AM/FM Radio. Data is not needed to get music. Useful when at work on a company plan with data limits and WiFi Restrictions. Also useful an health clubs to listen to the audio for the TVs. Also, see Post 41
20. Automatic word suggestion when typing. Shows a list of words to pick. The iPhone automatically corrects words and suggests a single word.
21. Tell Me - It has similarities to Siri, but there are some things Siri does better, just like there are some things Tell Me does better. I am putting this as an advatage for both. I will use a post to outline some differences.
22. Zune Pass
23. Unlimited Sky Drive space for Photos for Free.
24. Ability to directly share a photo in Facebook, while viewing the photo and not first being in Facebook. details: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20815029&postcount=99
25. Ability to set the fetch frequency and enable or disable push email on a per-account basis. iPhone fetch frequency is a setting for all accounts. With the iPhone, you can have multiple push accounts and multiple poll accounts. But the poll accounts all poll at the same frequency. With Windows Phone, I can have one account poll every hour, another poll every 15 minutes, and another be a push account.
26. (For Windows users only) Pictures taken on a Mango phone display properly on Windows computer's default programs. Windows 7, Vista, and anything earlier do not properly support the rotational information in the EXIF information on jpegs. It does actually support EXIF, just not the rotational information when rendering. iPhone uses EXIF to set the rotation. Also, no web browser other than Safari supports EXIF for orientation. Although the fault lies with Microsoft for viewing in the OS, the result is extra work to make the pictures taken from an iPhone display with correct orientation on Windows machines. Other programs can be used to view the pictures and there are lossless ways to rotate them. Nonetheless, it is still additional work to view them on Windows computers. Less work for those you share with is an advantage.
27. Ability to use full website without being redirected to a mobile version. On the iPhone, some sites redirect you to the mobile version. And there is not a way to use the full version unless the site provides a link to it. Not all sites provide this. There are apps for the iPhone (JourneyLite and Mercury are 2) that allows full browsing after telling it to simulate IE9.
28. Multiple User Groups - link to post with details - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21419216&postcount=153
29. Bing Maps can find some old established addresses correctly that the iPhone Maps cannot. (note Bing Maps is available for free on the iPhone, but Siri and most, in not all, integrations will not use it). (I will edit this if anyone can post a verifiable address that Bing incorrectly finds, but the iPhone maps correctly finds.) discusssions on this start here
30. Ability to snooze an appointment. With the iPhone, if you have a meeting scheduled for 2:00 PM and are set to be reminded 15 minutes before, you will get notified at 1:45 PM. But there is not way to snooze for 10 minutes and get notified again at 1:55 PM.
31. Rescheduled appointments from Exchange work properly. The iPhone asks if you want to rescheule the meeting or all meetings, even though the original rescheduler defined this when rescheduling.
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iPhone Advantages
1. The 4 column grid lets you see more applications at once. The pages of apps to launch also makes it so it is easy to find the applications that you have.
2. Applications are very mature on this platform. Some include additional features or details not in the Windows Phone version.
3. There are more applications available. They are normally cheaper as well.
4. The physical switch to turn off the sound.
5. Battery life. With WiFi on and in use all day on my iPhone, I still have 75% charge. My Quantum has had WiFi and BlueTooth turned off and only has 50% power left. This may be a gen 1 vs gen 2 issue for Widows Phone 7 devices, but it is all I can compare. Maybe some new Titan users can comment.
6. iPhone allows any type of background process. This means that any app, such as Glympse can update send your location while in the background. It also means that features in some apps will not be present in the Windows Phone 7 version that do this, because Windows Phone does not allow this. See Post #142 for details.
Items 7 to 16 were identified by Vetvito here: Post #34
7. "Cut" - both have copy and paste.
8. Games: In game voice chat - able to trade game items with other players
9. browser has a forward button and find on page function (confirmed to not be in Win Phone 7)
10. Integration with all apple products including apple tv
11. Video MMS - iPhone can send and receive. Windows Phone 7 can receive them and play them, but it can not send them.
12. notification bar with widgets and unified notification access from the lock screen
13. Basic photo editting is built in.
14. iTunes Match - 14, 15, and 16 described here: Post #40
15. emoji icons
16. Safari Reader - removes distractions, such as ads and makes it mpore like a pdf.
17. Massive amounts of hardware made specifically for iPhones which ensures full compatiblity.
18. Compass is perfect on the iPhone. Often times, it is incorrect on my LG Quantum. Maybe someone can comment on a Gen 2 Windows Phone 7 or a different model to see if it is better.
19. Landscape support when playing music.
20. Siri - It has similarities to Tell Me, but there are some things Siri does better, just like there are some things Tell Me does better. I am putting this as an advatage for both. I will use a post to outline some differences.
21. Music - shake to shuffle - takes you to a different song if you don't want to listen to what is playing. (can't use back arrow to go back to the song though)
22. Better backup and restore system. (backs up more than just purchased apps and everything can be in iTunes or the iCloud by user choice).
23. On January 1st there will be no YouTube player for Mango that supports HD video.
24. Ability to enable and disable location services on a per-app basis in settings.
25. Setting up caldav and subscribed calendars in iOS is a snap, where that capability doesn't exist on WP7. CalDav link for those that don't know what this is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CalDAV
26. Able to view Comcast video on demand through the xfinity.tv app. Although with a Blast Extra subscription many shows available on your laptop will not play through the app. More Details: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20830665&postcount=111
27. Able to Stream Dish Network video with an app from the DVR if the DVR receiver is new enough. Ability to use DirectTV Nomad app with $150 additional hardware to get direcTV videos onto the DirecTV DVR
28. Safari on the iPhone 4S renders some mobile sites with slightly incorrect HTML or CSS better for the user where some mobile sites are not usable in the mobile version by Windows Phone 7.
29. Ability to take screen captures, which is very useful when asking for help or illustrating steps.
30. Ability to group programs into folders
31. iMessage - this allows iPhone users to text message iPhone users without counting as text messages. This spans carriers. There are many free messaging programs available to all platforms, so this is not a huge advantage. Windows Phone 7 delivers free messaging through Facebook integration so long as the users are friends on Facebook. Pick your evil here. To text for free using the built in solutions, with the iPhone friends all have to support Apple or on Windows Phone friends all need to be friends on Facebook.
32. Outlook Syncronization through USB. This is not possible with Windows Phone. Windows Phone requires over the air syncronization, such as with an Exchange Server or gmail or Windows Live. Many don't consider this to be a huge issue, since there are plenty of free over the air solutions and the growing trend is to not tie devices to a PC. (the cloud is the future). But if you feel strongly that you need to tether to Outlook, Windows Phone will not do that.
33. iCloud syncronization with other devices - With Apple products, iCloud will automatically sync apps, music, video to all devices registered with the Apple Id.
34. Better pixel density and resolution.
35. FaceTime is built in - (Video Messaging for iPhone to iPhone or other Apple product such as an iPad). Advantage is not great since Skype and Tango are free and available on all major platforms. FaceTime is only available for Apple products.
36. PhotoStream - streams pictures from the phone over WiFi to your computer. Full resolution is preserved. With Windows Phone - Sky Drive, it syncs over the air and does not require WiFi, but it adjusts the pixel resolution (I need to verify whether this is configurable).
37. Ability to open links from a page in a new tab without navigating switching to the tab. (considering dedicating a post to browser advantages and disadvantages) Safari for iPhone vs IE for Mango
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Application differences
Windows Phone 7 applications tend to use the Metro UI to be consistent with the platform.
The iPhone tends to be consitent with the way iPhone applications run.
Facebook
Seemed to be pretty much the same on both.
The iPhone app does give easier access to the features and might let you do more.
Twitter
Seemed to be pretty much the same on both.
Foursquare
Seemed to be pretty much the same on both.
Glympse
Windows Phone 7 does not update your location when the app is not the foreground application.
iHeart Radio
Seemed to be pretty much the same on both.
Tango
Seemed to be pretty much the same on both.
Angry Birds
Seemed to be pretty much the same on both. iPhone has more versions and levels.
Flashlight Apps
Both have Flashlight apps that work identically. See post #14 for a link to download the Windows Phone 7 app (Flashlight-X) that works just like iTorch4.
Note: This requires an LED flash. All iPhones have and LED flash. All Windows Phones have a flash, but LED is not required. If a flashlight app is required, make sure to get a phone with an LED flash.
LG Panorama Shot vs Dermandar - Both are free apps to create panoramic pictures.
On the iPhone, you can do a full 360, are just any interval in between. It will also create a 3D type viewing of the area. But both make excellent panoramic pics with no visible problems near the stitching.
Yelp (finds nearby businesses)
Seems very similar on both platforms. iPhone wanted alot more info on the start that can be skipped.
DirecTV (Not Nomad)
Both are pretty similar and let you do the same things.
Application Availability
This is not going to include all applications. There are almost 50,000 available for Windows Phone 7. There are more available for the iPhone. I am not going to include apps that are alternate interfaces to other services.
Available on iPhone, but not Windows Phone 7
Most versions of Angry Birds.
Available for Windows Phone 7, but not on iPhone
Availbable for both
Facebook, Twitter, Foursquare, Glympse, Shazam, Tango, You Tube, Angry Birds, Flixster, Fly Delta, Adobe Reader
Apps for Google Voice, Pandora, Skype
Games
There are games available only for Windows Phone 7, that are not available for iPhone.
There are games available for iPhone that are not available for Windows Phone 7.
I am not going to list them for either.
Updates:
Since MetroRadio works for Pandora on Mango, I removed Pandora from the list of unavailable apps.
Similarities
Positive
Both easily let you sync with an Exchange server. (Email, Appointments, Tasks, and Contacts)
Both let you easily find and install apps.
Both autmatically notify you of application updates.
Both let you text message by voice.
Both have ways of streaming music and video.
Both have built in maps with navigation.
Both will give you weather updates.
Both support HTML 5.
Both give fast access to the camera when the device is locked.
Both support and have multi player games.
Both have Google Voice Applications.
Negative
Using either Bing on Mango or Maps on the iPhone to find nearby locations often times does not find the closest option. Each is better or worse depending on the location. iPhone is better in some areas and Bing is better in others.
BOTH still lack the ability to create complex repeat patterns for appointments.
Differences
Swipe left on iPhone to get to search. On Windows Phone 7, there is a search button.
Live Tiles vs icons. It seems that some icons do update on the iPhone, such as the Calander, but the weather icon always says 73 degrees. On Windows Phone 7, the tile shows the temp.
iTunes verses Zune.
Press the button to then launch camera without unlocking verses pressing and holding the dedicated camera button.
iTunes vs Zune
iTunes
Create ringtone by converting to m3a and renaming to m3r. Then drag to Tones.
Backs up all apps to your computer from the phone.
File-Add File to Library or Add Folder to Library. No way to remove a folder. Must remove songs 1 at a time.
Zune
Create ringtone by setting genre to Ringtone.
All app purchases will automatically restore if you need a replacement phone or restore.
Backs up phone OS to computer when updating. Not sure about settings and accounts.
Easy to add and remove directories for Zune to automatically add to it's library while keeping the music in the original location
Both
Easy to make and manage playlists.
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The People Hub in Mango
This will be dedicated to the People Hub.
Nice to see you here on wp7
nice and clean thread for now.
lets hope it will stay like that, we don't want a war here.
do you need this post place to ?
if yes I can remove it for you.
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Nice to see you here on wp7
nice and clean thread for now.
lets hope it will stay like that, we don't want a war here.
do you need this post place to ?
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I want to keep this thread objective and clean. So many are lopsided and become war zones.
I have enough posts reserved for anything else I may want to add
I've had my Quantum since the end of August. And work just gave me an iPhone 4S, so I figured I'd do a side by side comparison.
Coming from Windows Mobile and custom ROMs, I did not expect to like either, but have found both to be very good.
You can find, on MarketPlace, apps that not blinking the camera led flash.
One example : http://www.windowsphone.com/en-US/apps/2638b778-5eab-45f1-a511-a08e1dbde751
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You can find, on MarketPlace, apps that not blinking the camera led flash.
One example : http://www.windowsphone.com/en-US/apps/2638b778-5eab-45f1-a511-a08e1dbde751
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Nice tip. I am installing and testing it now.
Tested and verified. I am updating the post now.
I believe that it exists exclusive app in marketplace in the US.
Arcane's Tower Defense is an exclusive WP7 game.
Wp7 certainly feels smoother and the apps that aren't simply ports seem to run smoother on wp7. Words by post for instance is much smoother on wp7.
Nice objective comparison!
I own a quantum as well and I love it.
Perhaps one difference you can point out is that on wp7 you have choices of different hardware (like a physical keyboard if that's important to you)
I think Angry Birds on iOS/Android has significantly more levels.
Foursquare for iOS5 allows for the Radar feature (http://blog.foursquare.com/2011/10/12/the-real-world-now-in-real-time-say-hi-to-foursquare-radar/) which, like Glympse, won't be possible until Microsoft provides a background location service.
Other apps affected by the lack of background location services include GPS and the run tracker type apps.
Maybe you should include a section about multitasking in general.
great idea for a post it can help a lot of people who may or may not want to switch
Tired of putting down your Nexus 7 to check a new SMS on your phone? Me too. Cloud SMS is run on both your phone and tablet to allow you to send and receive SMS messaging from your tablet.
This app works over the Internet and does not require bluetooth, does not share (or transmit) your contacts, and even hashes your account email for added security. Typical messages take about 100ms to transmit. Cloud SMS will be a commercial application ($0.99) when testing is complete.
A Note to Moderators: I was not aware of the rules for paid apps. I will move this discussion to the proper paid apps / announcements later today to adhere to the set rules. I apologize for not knowing the rules first. I'd really appreciate it if you could let me keep this here until tonight when I move it (I'm at work now).
Important - It was brought to my attention that this thread (paid app) should be in the general apps / releases area. Click here for the new thread where I will continue to support this app and discuss features and issues. Thank you everyone!
Super Important & Complex Setup Instructions
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Install and run on tablet
Done... Ready to go!
Download now at the Google Play Store!
Updates
1.0.2
Added two way message sent indicator to Message View which starts yellow, and turns Green on message sent.
Added a service which watches for networks to change (mobile to wifi, changing wifi) and requests an update with the server to remain synced.
Changed behavior of Persistent notifications - Now called Always Show Notifications. When Unchecked, notifications are hidden after 5 seconds, except for new messages, which remain until clicked or dismissed.
1.0.1
Fixed sent messages showing unread on phone when sent from tablet
Showing default contact icon when contact database gives multiple local account photo ids.
Code preparation for upcoming feature
Play Store Initial Release - Mon Oct 22
All communications are transmitted over https (2048 bit encryption)
New icons for unread messages (much cleaner looking)
Fixed bug where long multi part messages would not send from tablet
Release Candidate 5 - Sun Oct 21
Fixed contact list thread duplication issue
Added sharing from other apps - All text based data (notes, schedules, browser links, etc)
Preparation for final release
Release Candidate 4 - Sat Oct 20
Fixed bug in Update Service which could have prevented Cloud ID Updates
Added option to choose contact selection style. You can now use the very simple choose from contacts, or the text entry style.
Fixed limiting device accounts for only gmail.com, and now also supports googlemail.com
Release Candidate 3 - Fri Oct 19 @ 10:55pm EST (Updated - Version #5)
Version 5 - Fixed contact separation bug
Version 5 - Fixed contact duplication bug
Version 4 - Fixed phone number validation bug
Version 3 - Fixed crash when direct phone number had spaces after hitting send message
Version 3 - Added Dark Theme layouts for New Message (Including different colours for bad/good phone number, and contact results)
Version 3 - Fixed crash when resuming New Message after rotating or sleeping.
Version 2 - Fixed bug where Exit would have to be repeated when opened from notification
Fixed handling of messages with phone number only (not in contacts)
Added New Message handler - Auto completes contact entry and supports direct phone numbers
Various bug fixes for stability
Fixed Contact list not updating on message
Release Candidate - Thurs Oct 18
Fixed many stability issues which caused hard to find crashes
Fixed Phone issue which caused SMS to stop sending/receiving after some time
Fixed window states - App will not show "spare" views.
Fixed notifications opening to wrong contact
Added unread message count - Notification Icon changes to show the value of unread numbers (1~9, 9+)
Added unread indicator on Contact list view (Unread senders will have bolded names, and show number of unread)
Added delete conversation (long press on a contact to delete the message history)
Added delete message (long click on a specific message to delete the message)
Beta Build 6 - Wed Oct 17
Added Notification sound selection
Changed Primary account to a list of device accounts (Much easier)
Message View now shows sender Contact Photo (Your contact photo should now show)
Sent Messages now align right next to the sender contact photo
Moved server infrastructure to new scaling processor (Up until now the routing process was CSV based, and would not scale). Processing times on my end are now in the 100th of a second area.
Added more padding to separate message text box from messages
Send Message Button slightly bigger.
Should more reliably update both Contact view and message view on messages
Beta Build 5 - Tues Oct 16 #2
New Icon!
Fixed refresh of messages on send
Fixed Text Entry field size
Fixed Send Button in Dark Theme
Fixed Send Button Scaling
Removed notification sound on Phone when sending outgoing SMS from tablet
Fixed contact picker - Now shows contacts with phone numbers
Alert user when selected contact number is not sms capable (Work number, etc)
Beta Build 4 - Tues Oct 16
Temporily added Debug Menu Option - This will show you the detected Device Hash, Account (Not sent to server), and GCMID. If your not syncing, check the GCMID in debug, if blank, exit the app and try again (and let me know!)
Fixed Server side bug which prevented syncing
Added crash handler to send me crash reports during the testing phase
Fixed alignment on Message view sent messages
Increased SMS Priority to try and get around SMS apps that do not like to share.
Unknown contacts will show phone number as their name.
Beta Build 3 - Mon Oct 15 - Build #2 - Updated Build Sent to Testers (Thanks guys!)
Bug Fixes + New Features
Build #2 - Fixed Cloud ID Assignment (I wasn't waiting long enough for Google to assign them!)
Build #2 - Reverted to old contact picker. Much more reliable this way, solves most of the problems.
New Notification Settings
Added Persistent Notification Setting
Added Notification Sound Setting
Added Notification Vibrate Setting
Fixed Cloud Sync loss after a few hours
Added Setting to list detected account (Just displayed on your device, not transferred) - This allows you to set the correct account if you have multiple accounts on a tablet
Contact and Messages lists now update on incoming message!
Message text allows links to be clickable
Text input field now automatically capitalizes the first word in a sentence
Fixed all communications bugs on SIM tablets with no SIM card (Wifi)
Fixed issues on Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1
(There are more, just can't remember now)
Beta Build 2 - Sun Oct 14 - Sent out updates to existing testers, and send PMs to a few others, thanks!
Bug Fixes + New Features
Now supports Android 2.2 through 4.1 (was previously 2.3 and up)
Added Settings Menu
Added Theme Selection (Light, Dark)
Added Start on Boot (Opens in notification tray)
Added Force Tablet for some tablets being detected as phone
Fixed detection of some tablets
Fixed a few communications bugs
Message list is updated on sending a message
Beta Build 1 - Fri Oct 12
Initial Release!
Current Bugs
Required Permissions
Internet - (Needed to connect to the Internet!)
Send SMS / Receive SMS (These are used on the phone side to send/receive messages)
Get Account (This is used to read your gmail address assigned to your device. I never actually send this email, simply make a secure hash of the account to match against the Google Cloud Messaging IDs for your tablet/phone)
Wake Lock (This is required for Google Cloud Messaging)
Receive SMS (This is required to capture SMS messages to send to your tablet)
Vibrate (If your tablet supports it, I can vibrate/light LED, make sound just as your phone does on SMS - This will become a setting)
Read Contacts (This is used on the tablet to show the contact photo / name rather than just the phone number of the recipient/sender. This data is never stored anywhere).
Write SMS (This is used on the phone to add your messages to the stock SMS database to keep conversations properly synced)
Receive Boot Completed (This is used to automatically start on boot if enabled in Settings)
Using Go SMS? Do this:
In Go SMS, Under 'Menu -> Settings -> Receive Settings' - Uncheck the box that says 'Disable other message notification'
If still not receiving forwarding messages, reboot.
Any comments, questions, or feedback?
It sounds pretty good and 99 cents would be a great price for the features. I rarely turn on wifi/BT on my phone, so I'd like an app that just needs a data connection like you are describing.
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Sounds fantastic, keep us posted!
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yes, sounds far better than tablet talk (what I use now) when your ready for a tester id be more than willing. I have multiple android phones to test with. and may I add that your price is quite fair. If succesfull I see many flocking to your app
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yes, sounds far better than tablet talk (what I use now) when your ready for a tester id be more than willing. I have multiple android phones to test with. @ this price I can see many people flocking to your app over the competition
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There is already an app on the market with that name, for just this use. Tablet sms on the tablet, and desk sms on phone. I use it all the time. How exactly is this different?
It can be found here https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wxLDEsImNvbS5rb3VzaGlrZHV0dGEudGFibGV0c21zIl0.
I am definitely not saying you should not make it, just wondering about the advantages of your vs the already existing. They sound very very similar, right down to the name.
Nexus 7 on AOKP by R4ins
Excellent idea!
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Is this the same as the one posted on reddit? Excellent idea nonetheless, hopefully an improvement on Tablet SMS. Would love to test.
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There is already an app on the market with that name, for just this use. Tablet sms on the tablet, and desk sms on phone. I use it all the time. How exactly is this different?
It can be found here https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wxLDEsImNvbS5rb3VzaGlrZHV0dGEudGFibGV0c21zIl0.
I am definitely not saying you should not make it, just wondering about the advantages of your vs the already existing. They sound very very similar, right down to the name.
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I had no idea another app like this one existed, certainly not by Clockworkmod no less. I will of course rename it to something different. My app does not use anything but Google Cloud Messaging as a transport, and will solely focus on SMS leaving gtalk, gmail, and IM to other apps.
This app first and foremost is designed for myself and friends who just want SMS to work two ways from phone to tablet.
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Is this the same as the one posted on reddit? Excellent idea nonetheless, hopefully an improvement on Tablet SMS. Would love to test.
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I've not posted this to reddit (yet?). Once the name changes and a test build is up, perhaps then.
What are the issues with TabletSMS on the market?
Please keep in mind that I want to keep SMS data as private as possible with my model, no messages ever go to database or disk.
App will now be called SMS Cloud unless there are further objections.
Cool, would like to see if this works better than tablet talk.
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Looks good. I'm not willing to pay $5/yr. for the other app, but a one time $1 or $2 app that works would be great! I don't text much, but I would like to get SMS notifications on my N7 if my phone is off. I get 1 or 2 messages a month (from Virgin Mobile about payment due), that I sometimes miss because I seldom use my phone anymore. As long as this doesn't interfere with GrooveIP (that uses Google chat), I'm in!
I've been looking for something like this for a while.
Most apps are limited to WiFi and BT which is a shame and the already mentioned app is rather expensive.
Would very much be interested in something like this!
I'll test it out on my nexus 7. Right now I use Google voice for texting from my tablet but as you know it isn't my actual phone number.
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Great idea especially with the added security added great price point, can't wait to see how it turns out!
Count me in for testing as well.
promising. I'll keep an eye on this thread. I currently use Table SMS/Desk SMS. I think a new option (if good) will be very welcome.
Really looking forward to seeing this develop. I'm using Tablet Talk at the moment and having to faff about with connections all the time is becoming a pain. Something like this sounds really good. I tried TabletSMS and DeskSMS a while back but the half-holo-half-awful UI was offputting and the annual cost isn't ideal.
If you can keep the UI clean (looking like stock SMS app?) and keep it quick and easy to connect then it should be amazing. Can't wait to try it out
I like desk/tabletsms but I might be willing to jump ship. Tablet SMS is a bit clunky and doesn't seem to always update properly. I'd love a clone of the stock SMS app when on a tablet. Also cloud SMS sounds better than SMS cloud imo
Edit: also, I'd be very willing to test and will be watching this thread
I just found out about mysms. It seems to be completely free and does what DeskSMS and the OP wants to do. You can also use a webapp to send/receive messages.
linknight said:
I just found out about mysms. It seems to be completely free and does what DeskSMS and the OP wants to do. You can also use a webapp to send/receive messages.
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I've used mysms for awhile. Its actually really bad. Messages rarely send from the tablet to phone successfully and there are huge delays in messages being received and sent. I use Tablet Talk right now, its pretty good for at home use but it would be nice to be able to have a reliable tablet sms app over data.
Count me in on the testing.
Below represent my own opinions and views based on years of using honor/huawei phones but specifically my latest one, Honor 8x.
1. Official Gmail app cannot show notification dots/numbers under honor launcher. If you go to launcher settings--> Badge app icons, gmail app will never be there as one of the options.
2. Official honor email client limits number of gmail accounts you can have. I have enetered 10 gmail accounts and on trying to enter another one app tells me limit reached and i have to delete all (yes that's right ALL) current gmail accounts if i want to add another one !
BTW honor's email client is about as primitive as they come with very few features/options available so don't expect a gmail, edison, thunderbird, protonmail etc.. experience.
3. Notifications sometimes fail due to aggressive background battery optimisation. Yes you can try and control some of these via 'ignore optimisation' but they don't always seem to work. Search the web and you'll see many complaining about this same issue.
4. Honor's reluctance to install any other launcher but their own. Yes you can do it but (a) first they warn you that it's not recommended, why ? and (b) notifications again become a problem if you move away from their launcher. For example, i tried Nova with tesla unread and ran into the notification problem outlined in 1 above.
5. Comparing with some of my other phones, 1+3T (stock) and Honor 9 Lite (OmniRom) this 2018 Kirin 710 is NOT impressing me. It's ok but not what i expected in late 2018 mid range and the H9L, with OmniRom gsi, beats it hands down. I can only put this down to Honor's EMUI overhead.
6. Bloatware, some you can uninstall but not all. You can disable the rest but not uninstall them, why ? why do i want to keep facebook services on my phone if i don't use facebook ? for example.
7. Lastly, the elephant in the room, as it were. Since no bootloader is available for honor devices anymore (yes i knew this when i bought it) many of these complaints can never be overcome.
Honor's devices are great value for money, that's why even knowing all the above i still buy them, but they fail on so many fundamental things for people who like android because of its customisation potential. Also it has been my experience, after owning 5 different honor phones, that they're not great on updates either.
Enough of a rant, only wanted to put this out there as my own personal view of my experience with Honor phones. Love their design, looks and pricing, hate their functionality (or lack of it) compared to other developer friendly phones.
xzyk said:
Below represent my own opinions and views based on years of using honor/huawei phones but specifically my latest one, Honor 8x.
1. Official Gmail app cannot show notification dots/numbers under honor launcher. If you go to launcher settings--> Badge app icons, gmail app will never be there as one of the options.
2. Official honor email client limits number of gmail accounts you can have. I have enetered 10 gmail accounts and on trying to enter another one app tells me limit reached and i have to delete all (yes that's right ALL) current gmail accounts if i want to add another one !
BTW honor's email client is about as primitive as they come with very few features/options available so don't expect a gmail, edison, thunderbird, protonmail etc.. experience.
3. Notifications sometimes fail due to aggressive background battery optimisation. Yes you can try and control some of these via 'ignore optimisation' but they don't always seem to work. Search the web and you'll see many complaining about this same issue.
4. Honor's reluctance to install any other launcher but their own. Yes you can do it but (a) first they warn you that it's not recommended, why ? and (b) notifications again become a problem if you move away from their launcher. For example, i tried Nova with tesla unread and ran into the notification problem outlined in 1 above.
5. Comparing with some of my other phones, 1+3T (stock) and Honor 9 Lite (OmniRom) this 2018 Kirin 710 is NOT impressing me. It's ok but not what i expected in late 2018 mid range and the H9L, with OmniRom gsi, beats it hands down. I can only put this down to Honor's EMUI overhead.
6. Bloatware, some you can uninstall but not all. You can disable the rest but not uninstall them, why ? why do i want to keep facebook services on my phone if i don't use facebook ? for example.
7. Lastly, the elephant in the room, as it were. Since no bootloader is available for honor devices anymore (yes i knew this when i bought it) many of these complaints can never be overcome.
Honor's devices are great value for money, that's why even knowing all the above i still buy them, but they fail on so many fundamental things for people who like android because of its customisation potential. Also it has been my experience, after owning 5 different honor phones, that they're not great on updates either.
Enough of a rant, only wanted to put this out there as my own personal view of my experience with Honor phones. Love their design, looks and pricing, hate their functionality (or lack of it) compared to other developer friendly phones.
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You have entered 10 email accounts...that's a lot
10 email accounts on a phone are totally enough for a normal person otherwise you have special needs. It is ok to download some apps to do it.
I have similar complaints.
Just got an Honor 8x last weekend, and it's lovely phone, fast enough but the battery optimisation is ridiculous. I wish there was a global way to turn it all off, without messing with it, WhatsApp stopped getting messages, DNS Ad-Blockers are a write-off, my google feed refreshes and reloads WHILE IM READING IT!! and basically leaving an app for more than 5 seconds makes it unload and reload when I come back. For instance, i'm on reddit is fun app, click a YT video, and when i press back after watching it, reddit app refreshes and i'm back at the front page, having lost my place.
I'm on nova launcher as well, took me a little minute to figure that one out!!!
I'm really annoyed about DNS ad blockers (VPNs) just not working. I want to use Blockada but even with every single 'keep alive' setting, and all battery optimisations off in app settings, it seems to just eventually freeze and kill the network connection entirely, wether wifi or mobile.
I bought it because my Moto G5S+ was away for repair (GPS) and was taking forever. I'm right on the edge of switching back because battery optimisation combined with horrible EMUI limitations is starting to really wind me up. It's my phone, let me manage it!
Oh i thought of another. Join SMS app doesn't work. Only the default app on huawei devices can write to the SMS database, so sending a text from join in chrome sends the text, with no record of it at all in the sms database, ie textra when you look on your phone. That's really bad for me, I hate typing on the phone and try to get around that as much as possible.