[Q] Used Note 2 vs new Nexus 4...which one? - Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi folks. I have sold my Galaxy s2 more from an eager impulse to upgrade, and I have been rolling without a phone now because I couldn't simply decide which to get. At some point I even regret I have sold the s2 which was perfectly fine. But now since I did it I said at least to make a substantial upgrade. I have a micro sim with unlimited data until next year in may so I won't upgrade until then, even more, I would like to keep it longer than that.
I narrowed my choices to
S3 (used grade B - 260£),
Nexus 4 (new with 1 year warranty - 288£)
and Note 2 (used grade C - 305£, or 320£ grade B)
the used phones come with 60 days warranty only, no box or other accesories except USB cable (basically phones from recycling websites, so in good condition)
I think I took out s3 out of the list now..because for 20£ more you can get new N4
so it's between n4 and n2
I don't mind about the storage but it is a + obviously
I like to have good battery (when travelling or using google maps I don't want to get in trouble, though there are those mobile chargers available)
I used the n2 in the shop and I could control 85% of the touchscreen with one hand.
I like being able to read kindle, kobo ebooks on the phone, and having a swiss knife like n2 is
I like music and podcasts.
I am worried about N4: back of glass, god knows how many times I dropped s2 or bumped it., although I think aftermarket backcover will be available or could stick a dbrand skin
battery,
battery: from what I've red it looks like it's average, although pretty sure it's better than my used s2
Worried about N2
only 60 days warranty
price is higher, even if used condition (grade C might have scratches and scuffs but I heard very good reviews and it generally goes one class better)
worried about size, is it more fragile because the size? can I use it while running listening to music?
It really is a though call...but I need a phone, thought to rebuy a s2 or a htc one s/x (used of course) but considering I will be using this for more than a year with full blown unlimited internet, I might as well make a significant upgrade...
Which one should I get?

I was luck to use a Galaxy Nexus 4 and then move on to the SGN II
The Note is great doesn't take long to get used to the size.
Downside to the Nexus as I see it... Not as much support/custom roms etc
The Nexus is limited IMO - no external storage, no removable battery. 16GB fills up really quickly and streaming isn't always an option (think big games and satnav)
So other than the obvious tech spec differences for me the Note was the way forward.

nc35 said:
I was luck to use a Galaxy Nexus 4 and then move on to the SGN II
The Note is great doesn't take long to get used to the size.
Downside to the Nexus as I see it... Not as much support/custom roms etc
The Nexus is limited IMO - no external storage, no removable battery. 16GB fills up really quickly and streaming isn't always an option (think big games and satnav)
So other than the obvious tech spec differences for me the Note was the way forward.
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thanks for your input
What most worries me is the warranty. Although I did not have any problem with s2 that would require RMA or servicing, is the N2 a sturdy device that doesn't develop faults along the way?

Ashan85 said:
thanks for your input
What most worries me is the warranty. Although I did not have any problem with s2 that would require RMA or servicing, is the N2 a sturdy device that doesn't develop faults along the way?
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Not if you update to the latest samsung rom.
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Choose Samsung Galaxy Note 2 because it has:
1. Great battery
2. Large/Amazing screen (reading books through Kindle or Kobo is just fantastic )
3. Removable battery
4. Micro SD slot
5. Project Butter (everything goes very smooth, no lag)
Plus, s-pen, good camera.
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artorelis said:
Choose Samsung Galaxy Note 2 because it has:
1. Great battery
2. Large/Amazing screen (reading books through Kindle or Kobo is just fantastic )
3. Removable battery
4. Micro SD slot
5. Project Butter (everything goes very smooth, no lag)
Plus, s-pen, good camera.
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Project butter is of Google or samsung?
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I've had 2 note 2's and haven't had a single issue in the months since owning.
I own both a note 2 & a nexus 4, I much prefer the note 2 and use it 95% of the time. It is a brilliant all rounder & don't think any other phone on the market presently beats it for looks or overall performance, IMO.
Get the note 2 you won't regret it at all

mys3 said:
I've had 2 note 2's and haven't had a single issue in the months since owning.
I own both a note 2 & a nexus 4, I much prefer the note 2 and use it 95% of the time. It is a brilliant all rounder & don't think any other phone on the market presently beats it for looks or overall performance, IMO.
Get the note 2 you won't regret it at all
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Can you give me your n4 cuz you use n2 most of the time.
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This is a new concept to me but what exactly are the differences in conditions between these grades?
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bushako said:
This is a new concept to me but what exactly are the differences in conditions between these grades?
Sent from the rabbit hole.
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I will copy paste here...They are from recycle companies that buy mobiles, it is a bit risky but considering the phone has been on the market for only 4 months a grade c might be in reality grade b. There is also free returns 7 days policy.
What does Grade A mean?
• The phone is used but in excellent condition.
• Cosmetically the phone will show no signs of use, there will be no scratches,
cracks or scuffs to the screen or casing.
• It’s been fully tested*, is in full working order and has been restored to the latest operating system.
What does Grade B mean?
• The phone is used and in good condition.
• Cosmetically the phone will show signs of slight use, including two or three minor scratches to the screen and casing. It wont have cracks on the screen or casing.
• It’s been fully tested*, is in full working order and has been restored to the latest operating system.
What does Grade C mean?
• The phone is used and in average condition.
• Cosmetically the phone will show signs of use, including some scratches and
scuffs to the screen and casing. It wont have cracks on the screen or casing.
• It’s been fully tested*, is in full working order and has been restored to the latest operating system.

Ah in that case I'd settle for the Nexus 4 if i were you., the Note 2 is a great device with much more functionality but reality is there is nothing like getting a phone right out of the box Atleast in my case and that alone would be my deciding factor besides the fact that it uses pure android which Is a plus for me too.
I've had a lot of bad experiences with used phones in the past and since then I've always opted for brand new. However, if you do decide to get the Note2 then I can add that incase the housing is pretty bad, since you've mentioned it's a grade c, then you can easily replace the housing for as cheap as 10bucks from www.cnn.cn. Their products are of high quality standard and very cheap.
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Tough one really. It keeps bouncing in my head on and off... I know I can't buy anything better than these with 300£, it is basically a real upgrade mid contract with just a small cost. I also want to use it for more than one year this time.

Ashan85 said:
Hi folks. I have sold my Galaxy s2 more from an eager impulse to upgrade, and I have been rolling without a phone now because I couldn't simply decide which to get. At some point I even regret I have sold the s2 which was perfectly fine. But now since I did it I said at least to make a substantial upgrade. I have a micro sim with unlimited data until next year in may so I won't upgrade until then, even more, I would like to keep it longer than that.
I narrowed my choices to
S3 (used grade B - 260£),
Nexus 4 (new with 1 year warranty - 288£)
and Note 2 (used grade C - 305£, or 320£ grade B)
the used phones come with 60 days warranty only, no box or other accesories except USB cable (basically phones from recycling websites, so in good condition)
I think I took out s3 out of the list now..because for 20£ more you can get new N4
so it's between n4 and n2
I don't mind about the storage but it is a + obviously
I like to have good battery (when travelling or using google maps I don't want to get in trouble, though there are those mobile chargers available)
I used the n2 in the shop and I could control 85% of the touchscreen with one hand.
I like being able to read kindle, kobo ebooks on the phone, and having a swiss knife like n2 is
I like music and podcasts.
I am worried about N4: back of glass, god knows how many times I dropped s2 or bumped it., although I think aftermarket backcover will be available or could stick a dbrand skin
battery,
battery: from what I've red it looks like it's average, although pretty sure it's better than my used s2
Worried about N2
only 60 days warranty
price is higher, even if used condition (grade C might have scratches and scuffs but I heard very good reviews and it generally goes one class better)
worried about size, is it more fragile because the size? can I use it while running listening to music?
It really is a though call...but I need a phone, thought to rebuy a s2 or a htc one s/x (used of course) but considering I will be using this for more than a year with full blown unlimited internet, I might as well make a significant upgrade...
Which one should I get?
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Hi
You should take a look at Panamoz.com.
They specialise in camera lenses but offer really good prices on phones which are imported from Honk Kong and with 1 year warranty. You can get a new LTE S3 for just a bit more than a Nexus, etc.
I know people who have used the site and they all recommend it.

Okay disregard that.
It seems to have jumped up over £200!
Must have been a long discount they had over the holiday period when I last checked.

Note 2:
+/-big screen
+more storage
+bigger battery (but also higher energy consumption through display)
+SPEN extremly useful in combination with FreeNote at University | AND try out Swype, swiping is perfect for SPEN
Nexus 4:
+newest firmware
+feels noble/high quality (unibody and glass front + back)
+more custom ROMs
-storage
I would prefer the NII mainly beacause of the big screen with AMOLED technology. I tested both devices and felt in love with the NII.

xhizorsz said:
Note 2:
+/-big screen
+more storage
+bigger battery (but also higher energy consumption through display)
+SPEN extremly useful in combination with FreeNote at University | AND try out Swype, swiping is perfect for SPEN
Nexus 4:
+newest firmware
+feels noble/high quality (unibody and glass front + back)
+more custom ROMs
-storage
I would prefer the NII mainly beacause of the big screen with AMOLED technology. I tested both devices and felt in love with the NII.
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THE Note 2 came yesterday. Unfortunately it is mint on the case, but has 3 scratched, visible with the screen off, visible on white background, one 1 inch long, and 2 small, and then there are 4 more small scratches, the ones that I don't mind....quite a good condition for a grade C, I would say others would sell this as very good condition.
I think I will try to exchange it with a C or chuck 15£ more for a B; Or shouldn't I? If i put a screen protector will it make me forget about those? Does a scratched screen weaken the gorilla glass 2?
Bad about it is that the back panel creacks and flexes making sounds.
Oh..and the titanium color is beautiful.
It is true how everybody said, at first I was shocked about the size of it, and felt intimadet a bit. I am quite tall, 6.3. my hands are regular size but I have very thin fingers, but after one day I am sold, I was ready to run for a s3 or n4 because of the size, but now it doesn't feel like that anymore. The money are well spent I think, could keep this for 2 years no doubt, only badpart is I need to buy an mp3 player for running.
Battery is a WOW factor, 20h 22m on battery (8 hours from the night losing 1%/hour) screen time 4h 39m and still got 29% left. A 1hour movie episode on bbc iplayer (wifi stream) took 9% of the battery!

Ashan85 said:
THE Note 2 came yesterday. Unfortunately it is mint on the case, but has 3 scratched, visible with the screen off, visible on white background, one 1 inch long, and 2 small, and then there are 4 more small scratches, the ones that I don't mind....quite a good condition for a grade C, I would say others would sell this as very good condition.
I think I will try to exchange it with a C or chuck 15£ more for a B; Or shouldn't I? If i put a screen protector will it make me forget about those? Does a scratched screen weaken the gorilla glass 2?
Bad about it is that the back panel creacks and flexes making sounds.
Oh..and the titanium color is beautiful.
It is true how everybody said, at first I was shocked about the size of it, and felt intimadet a bit. I am quite tall, 6.3. my hands are regular size but I have very thin fingers, but after one day I am sold, I was ready to run for a s3 or n4 because of the size, but now it doesn't feel like that anymore. The money are well spent I think, could keep this for 2 years no doubt, only badpart is I need to buy an mp3 player for running.
Battery is a WOW factor, 20h 22m on battery (8 hours from the night losing 1%/hour) screen time 4h 39m and still got 29% left. A 1hour movie episode on bbc iplayer (wifi stream) took 9% of the battery!
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Yea just get a good quality anti glare screen protector and it should hide the scratches well. I hope.you get to enjoy it the way it's meant to be.
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hmm I don't see the competition here.
The ONLY reason you would choose N4 over Note 2 is you can't handle the screen size.
Like you want one hand operation at all time or you put your phone in your pants pocket but your pants are all has incredibly small pockets.
This is the only reason I can think of people would choose N4 over Note 2.
Other than this, I think Note 2 superior to N4 on every aspect.

darkinners said:
hmm I don't see the competition here.
The ONLY reason you would choose N4 over Note 2 is you can't handle the screen size.
Like you want one hand operation at all time or you put your phone in your pants pocket but your pants are all has incredibly small pockets.
This is the only reason I can think of people would choose N4 over Note 2.
Other than this, I think Note 2 superior to N4 on every aspect.
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Thanks, it was more about the budget. But as you can see, even a used note 2 is dearer than n4.

darkinners said:
hmm I don't see the competition here.
The ONLY reason you would choose N4 over Note 2 is you can't handle the screen size.
Like you want one hand operation at all time or you put your phone in your pants pocket but your pants are all has incredibly small pockets.
This is the only reason I can think of people would choose N4 over Note 2.
Other than this, I think Note 2 superior to N4 on every aspect.
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......and the price

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[Q] Talk me out of buying a Galaxy S III

I am currently a Nexus One owner, and I am looking at the Galaxy S III (T-Mobile, USA).
I already know a lot about the hardware. The fact that it has an sdcard slot and replaceable battery really sold me.
I have a pretty good idea of why I like the device, based on the specs.
Now, you guys talk me out of it. What problems are there? What are the flaws? I bet I can learn a lot from what you owners have to say.
I would be looking at the dark blue color, since I can't get black. My carrier is T-Mobile USA. The first thing I would do is root it and install the most stable Cyanogenmod nightly I can get.
I've heard that replacing the front screen is very difficult, and thus breaking my screen would be very expensive (unlike my Nexus One, where I can replace the digitizer for $35, and I have, twice).
I like the size of my Nexus One, and I am not fond of these huge Android phones, because I carry it in my front pants pocket.
I've heard that the S III is somewhat fragile and breaks easily. Is there any truth to this?
jmomo said:
I am currently a Nexus One owner, and I am looking at the Galaxy S III (T-Mobile, USA).
I already know a lot about the hardware. The fact that it has an sdcard slot and replaceable battery really sold me.
I have a pretty good idea of why I like the device, based on the specs.
Now, you guys talk me out of it. What problems are there? What are the flaws? I bet I can learn a lot from what you owners have to say.
I would be looking at the dark blue color, since I can't get black. My carrier is T-Mobile USA. The first thing I would do is root it and install the most stable Cyanogenmod nightly I can get.
I've heard that replacing the front screen is very difficult, and thus breaking my screen would be very expensive (unlike my Nexus One, where I can replace the digitizer for $35, and I have, twice).
I like the size of my Nexus One, and I am not fond of these huge Android phones, because I carry it in my front pants pocket.
I've heard that the S III is somewhat fragile and breaks easily. Is there any truth to this?
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1) Flaws and problems - It's not free, that's both a flaw and a problem.
2) Don't break your screen. Don't break your screen. Don't break your screen.
3) It's not that big, you get used to it.
jmomo said:
I am currently a Nexus One owner, and I am looking at the Galaxy S III (T-Mobile, USA).
I already know a lot about the hardware. The fact that it has an sdcard slot and replaceable battery really sold me.
I have a pretty good idea of why I like the device, based on the specs.
Now, you guys talk me out of it. What problems are there? What are the flaws? I bet I can learn a lot from what you owners have to say.
I would be looking at the dark blue color, since I can't get black. My carrier is T-Mobile USA. The first thing I would do is root it and install the most stable Cyanogenmod nightly I can get.
I've heard that replacing the front screen is very difficult, and thus breaking my screen would be very expensive (unlike my Nexus One, where I can replace the digitizer for $35, and I have, twice).
I like the size of my Nexus One, and I am not fond of these huge Android phones, because I carry it in my front pants pocket.
I've heard that the S III is somewhat fragile and breaks easily. Is there any truth to this?
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Well the only flaw i see is on stock touchwiz that battery can randomly plumet and leave u with a 4 to 6 hour battery life instead of 12 to 16 hours that i normally get with about 3h screen on time ^^ but if you are going with cm the u don't have to worry other than that you get used to the size and i can't really say there has been a flaw with mine i have dropped it only twice but it wasn't that hard of a drop so i can't tell you how durable it is. One of thing i disliked was the button placement of the power and volume rocker it's pretty hard not to accidentally hit volume up or down while locking and unlocking the phone but as time goes you grow a accustomed to it. And then i learned that all Samsung devices pretty much have the same button placement even old dumb phones have it like that.
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Galaxy S 2 is a good cellphone even better than galaxy s3. Buy it. You will not regret about it
SergioShpadi said:
Galaxy S 2 is a good cellphone even better than galaxy s3. Buy it. You will not regret about it
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Can you explain how the S2 is better than the S3??
The thin profile makes it a lot easier to carry in your pocket than you might think.
From everything I've see, do NOT break your screen it's not a pleasant replacement on these phones.
I came from a HTC Sensation and I'm a little blown away at how snappy the phone is. The only minor gripe I have is I don't particularly like pentile matrix screens but of those, the high resolution of the SGS3 makes up for it a little.
Otherwise, it's a great phone. Styling is subjective, but the curved edges make the phone feel smaller in your hand. Another observation was that for me it was so thin and slippery I was worried about dropping it. Ended up putting a skinomi skin on the battery cover and it works well for me.
The only reason I could see for not upgrading from the nexus to the s3 is possibly waiting another 4-5 months to get the s4 whenever it is released, but that might not be until next summer for all anybody knows. IMO the only phone equal to the s3 is the note2, but since you said you don't like big phones the note is definitely not a good choice.
No negatives. Best phone ever. Especially with all the great devs here. Buy it. U won't regret it.
This phone is fantastic. I came from an original Galaxy S so I had to get used to an "actual" button for home, but it didn't take long.
I would seriously suggest ev1lart's Wicked rom series tho. Stupid long battery life and ridiculous community support.
There are a hundred "toughness tests" out there with various results. I would just be careful regardless. It's a $500 phone! Regardless of what you pay for it, something of value should merit some caution I would hope. Regardless, I put a simple Diztronic case on it and it's survived every 2 to 4 foot drop it's had. The case also improves the grip, as it's pretty slick and thin to begin with.
Good luck man. It really is the king phone right now as far as I'm concerned.
BUY TWO!!!
If you carry your phone in the pocket... why don't you use belt loop case? I have never dropped out scratched my phone using that. S3 is a big phone, way too big for any pocket.
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I use relaxed fit jeans and they fit completely fine in my pockets and my biggest phone was a Dell steak and every phone feels smaller so to me, the s3 is not that big. To me of course. To others, well they device
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Mine fits fine in PJ pants, athletic shorts, jean shorts, casual work pants, and suit pants. I'm 6'1" but I don't think that'd make my pockets substantially bigger.. I don't have my phone in a case though, just a sunglass bag.

Broke my Nexus 4, is the Note 2 right for me?

Sucks that I have to make this thread but here it goes.
So my month long Nexus 4 experience came to a very sad conclusion. When I received it, it was the best phone I'd ever used. The stock android Nexus experience was incredible. 7 days in, I had a bike accident, and the nexus 4 broke it's back. I didn't really blame it's fragile nature because it was an exceptional condition. Then yesterday, it fell just 18 inches off a chair, face down, inside a Rearth Ringke case...aand it's screen cracked.
I used to defend the Nexus 4 a lot, but I have realized that it's a bit too fragile for someone who expects modern smartphones to survive 1.5 foot falls at least.
Anyway, so now I'm in a situation where I can buy one of my friends two phones off him, both are just 10 day old so as good as new.
a) S3
b) Note 2
Obviously the Note 2 is a better phone, but I'm just concerned about the size.
1. How was your experience with the Note 2 at first? Was the size an inconvenience? Did you adapt eventually? How long did it take?
2. Any issues with Touchwiz? I'm coming from a Nexus, remember.
3. Are there too many broken screen issues with the Note 2 as well (Like there are with the nexus)? How's the durability in general?
If 1. is an issue then I'll probably go for the S3.
cyanide911 said:
Sucks that I have to make this thread but here it goes.
So my month long Nexus 4 experience came to a very sad conclusion. When I received it, it was the best phone I'd ever used. The stock android Nexus experience was incredible. 7 days in, I had a bike accident, and the nexus 4 broke it's back. I didn't really blame it's fragile nature because it was an exceptional condition. Then yesterday, it fell just 18 inches off a chair, face down, inside a Rearth Ringke case...aand it's screen cracked.
I used to defend the Nexus 4 a lot, but I have realized that it's a bit too fragile for someone who expects modern smartphones to survive 1.5 foot falls at least.
Anyway, so now I'm in a situation where I can buy one of my friends two phones off him, both are just 10 day old so as good as new.
a) S3
b) Note 2
Obviously the Note 2 is a better phone, but I'm just concerned about the size.
1. How was your experience with the Note 2 at first? Was the size an inconvenience? Did you adapt eventually? How long did it take?
2. Any issues with Touchwiz? I'm coming from a Nexus, remember.
3. Are there too many broken screen issues with the Note 2 as well (Like there are with the nexus)? How's the durability in general?
If 1. is an issue then I'll probably go for the S3.
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Sad to hear about your n4. I say go for the note 2. It may seem a bit too big at first but soon you get comfortable with it and other phones seem small . About touchwiz its come a long way from what it used to be. I used to hate tw as it used to make phones look waaay outdated but now after using the note 2 I dont know how im gonna do without it its just amazing and makes life so much easier with its functions. If your worried about the sceen breaking there are cases reported of it breaking by falling from a very low height. I have had a few drops but my hard rubber case has stopped it from even getting a scrarch
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KyleDevlin12 said:
If your worried about the sceen breaking there are cases reported of it breaking by falling from a very low height.
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Yeah there are such cases for every phone but it's the frequency of cases in the N4 that's worrying.
Hmm yeah that's what I've heard, that you tend to get used to the 5.5 inch screen after a while.
1. Took me about half a day to adapt from my Nokia N8.
2. It's probably easier to use than stock Android. All stock features are there so, I guess not.
3. The plastic looks/feels cheap, but it's very durable in my experience. Also, both the SGS3/SGN2 have Gorilla Glass 2, which is the most durable screen glass out there. Unless you're talking about Nokias (My N8 once came out from under a quad bike I was riding without a scratch).
Droped it from 1.5 m today and he survived.
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Most guys here will advice you to get the Note 2 but the fact is the Note 2 is pretty fragile and a lot of people here have also reported cracked screens from small heights. The note 2 is an excellent device but it has to be used with care. If you can be more careful then it should do you well otherwise just go for something more rugged like a Sony Experia Z or HTC One X+. The S3 is almost as fragile as the Note 2 but does fit quite comfortably in the hand in comparison to the Note 2. Also I had the S3 and because it was easy to use with one hand and easily fit the pockets I never dropped it. I've already dropped the Note 2 twice trying to use it with one hand, fortunately It was lucky enough not to have suffered a cracked screen.
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I came from HTC Desire HD using custom ROM with plain vanilla JB 4.1.2. SO I was used to stock JB. Getting used to Note II was no problem. It is such a wonderful phone, I love ti. It is bigger but I got used to it. Touch Wiz is a bit ugly, but pretty practical and has good visability. As I'm older I prefer visibility over "design"
Yes, it feels fragile, especially for me coming from Desire HD which had ALUMINIUM UNIBODY, but it is so light and you can keep it in your shirt pocket. I wouldn't drop it though But this doesn't mean anything, it is just the feel we have towards something. I had DHD for 2 years, and it fell frm my shirt pocket when I was bowling, just landed on it's back or screen flat. I also had a silicon cover for it. And it died! No screen broken, nothing, but it died. And DHD has one of the sturdiest bodies of all phones. So maybe that doesn't mean anything. Maybe plastic is better fit to survive the falls. I'm planing on getting a cover for Note 2 though, since I'm afraid it might slip from my hand, and I think I'll get this one: SAMSUNG EFC-1J9FW, since I have similar (flip open) for my N7 and it is just great.
get this case to go with a Nexus 4: http://www.spigen.com/cell-phone/go...-series.html?gclid=CJXBj5rCu7UCFQWCnQodGkYAOA
I like both phones and have both. One week I use one, the next week the other. Both are comfortable and easy to use. I use Nova launcher. Both are excellent.

Trading Note II for HTC One?

as the title says, anyone with a Note II thinking about ditching it for a One? don't get me wrong, i love my N2, but it's something about it that i don't like. maybe its the size, and coming from a G2, the plastic annoys me also. I'm just not sure if I want to give up the screen real estate, and the powerful battery.
On the other hand, the one is GORGEOUS, the camera is better, and i dont mind giving up the LED display for a 468(?)ppi display. Plus, i prefer Sense over any other version of android. its much more polished.
any thoughts?
Think you answered your own question here really. It's simply a better quality device. Win factor!
Sent from my HTC Desire HD using my fingertips
I just sold my Sprint Note 2 for $550, with the HTC One in mind. I figured I'll sell now while the phone could feach a pretty penny.
I too love the N2 but its size does somewhat get annoying. I figured I could try the HTC One and if I don't like it I could resell that and by then the GS4 will be announced.
Its basically a never ending cycle of phone for me.
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I'll be selling mine as well. I'm not a huge HTC or Sense fan, but this phone is too sexy to pass up.
I'm thinking about it. I am expecting the screen on the One to be the best you can find on the market judging by the HTC One X's Super LCD 2 is the best that I have used so far. So I am likely to switch over, the only thing that's making it difficult is a great battery and I actually enjoy the screen size.
The Note 2 I had already went to my dad A long time ago. I still use my old DHD
Why? I just hate the plastic feel.
The WORST part of the Note 2 was that it would take 2 seconds to turn on the screen... I couldn't stand it after 2 weeks and gave it to him.
Why do Samsung devices take so long to wake? It is for that reason I am hesitant to buy the GS4.
There are only two reasons anyone should consider the N2 in the first place:
- They are heavy productivity users and get a lot of use out of S Pen, S Note, multiview, airview, etc.
- They want the 5.5" display to try and have a single device double as a phone and a tablet.
Since OP didn't mention either of those two things he probably should have gotten a high-end smartphone and not have had to deal with the N2's enormous size. The N2 was never meant to compete with the likes of the SGS3, One X, and Optimus G and neither the One nor SGS4 will have the productivity features of the N2 so they aren't real competitors either. A lot of people bought the N2 only because it was "shiny and new" rather than for what it could do. They are the ones that create threads like this. So, OP, get the One as it’s probably a lot more suited to your needs than the N2 ever would be.
As for "plastic." Samsung's devices are as well built and durable as HTC's. To allow for the removable battery a lot of people still consider important they have paper thin plastic back covers that peel off to allow access to the battery. It's a design choice to accommodate function. The design's been that way since the SGS2 came out. With ten times more SGS3's sold than One X's (an admittedly more handsome device) the public would seem to be OK with it. And the N2's internals are made of magnesium (item 3 below) which is an expensive (but light) alloy to work with.
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There are only two reasons anyone should consider the N2 in the first place:
- They are heavy productivity users and get a lot of use out of S Pen, S Note, multiview, airview, etc.
- They want the 5.5" display to try and have a single device double as a phone and a tablet.
Since OP didn't mention either of those two things he probably should have gotten a high-end smartphone and not have had to deal with the N2's enormous size. The N2 was never meant to compete with the likes of the SGS3, One X, and Optimus G and neither the One nor SGS4 will have the productivity features of the N2 so they aren't real competitors either. A lot of people bought the N2 only because it was "shiny and new" rather than for what it could do. They are the ones that create threads like this. So, OP, get the One as it’s probably a lot more suited to your needs than the N2 ever would be.
As for "plastic." Samsung's devices are as well built and durable as HTC's. To allow for the removable battery a lot of people still consider important they have paper thin plastic back covers that peel off to allow access to the battery. It's a design choice to accommodate function. The design's been that way since the SGS2 came out. With ten times more SGS3's sold than One X's (an admittedly more handsome device) the public would seem to be OK with it. And the N2's internals are made of magnesium (item 3 below) which is an expensive (but light) alloy to work with.
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yeah, i didn't get it for the TW features. after a few weeks i put paranoid on it. but i did get it to double as a phone and tablet. if i do get the one, i'll have to get used to a normal sized phone not running phablet mode. but i didn't get it because it's "shiny and new". like i said , i needed something that doubles as a phone and tablet. but on a day to day thing, it gets uncomfortable sometimes.
but samsung devices are not as durable as most HTC phones, plastic just can't stand up to metal/aluminum. imo, the galaxy s iii outsold the one x because it was on 5 different carriers (and of course samsungs amazing marketing). the one x being exclusively on AT&T is the reason i didn't get it. & it doesn't too much matter what the inside of your phone is made of when you drop it and the cheap material on the outside can't protect the phone from damage.
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but samsung devices are not as durable as most HTC phones, plastic just can't stand up to metal/aluminum. imo,
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Based on what? There were as many One X/L/+'s with displays cracked from drops as there were SGS3's and N2's. HTC had tons of issues with the Teg3 One X including public acknowledgment that the design caused Wi-Fi issues on some devices because of tolerances not met in the production process. And most of HTC's recent phones have been plastic too. Here's what happens to the matte finish on the One X(s) and DNA/Butterfly when exposed to any kind of abrasion. So I totally get that people like HTC's designs better (I do too) but that doesn't make them more durable.
And here's what happens to aluminum-backed devices with wear.
the galaxy s iii outsold the one x because it was on 5 different carriers (and of course samsungs amazing marketing). the one x being exclusively on AT&T is the reason i didn't get it.
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HTC took the best deal they could get. I'm sure if VZW and T-Mobile (Sprint did sort of) wanted to sell the One X they wouldn't have ended up in an AT&T exclusive. The One X was a beautiful device with a fantastic display cursed with an undersized battery and laughable storage on the XL and adequate storage on the One X. HTC's 2012 with the One's was their worst in history in terms of revenue, margin, and market share and that takes in to account worldwide sales not just what happened here in the U.S. I'm sure that wasn't what they were planning on when the One's were in R&D. Any how or why Samsung outsells them is less important than the fact HTC will be out of business soon if they don't come up with a formula to drastically improve sales. Let’s hope the One is a step in that direction.
it doesn't too much matter what the inside of your phone is made of when you drop it and the cheap material on the outside can't protect the phone from damage.
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A uni-body design (One X/One) can't distribute impact as well as a modular design. You'll see the battery cover fly off a Samsung device in most drop tests. That's a by-product of the energy of the impact being dissapated. Here's a N2 that survived a drop from 5'.
And here's a Samsung device being torture tested.
I was a very happy Teg3 One X owner and wouldn't hesitate to buy another HTC device if it met my needs. I'm using an N2 now and happy with it too but that doesn't mean I've suddenly become a Samsung fan-boy. Every device and the manufacturers that build them have strengths and weaknesses and it's not blasphemy to talk about them.
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Also thinking of switching. My Note 2 is sold already, so now eyeing the HTC One.
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Also thinking of switching. My Note 2 is sold already, so now eyeing the HTC One.
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yay welcome, really liked the stock slim rom that you made for the note 2!
Well, I just bought myself a Note 2 and love it wouldn't ditch it for a htc one!
hmmm... now I looked at the pictures from the camera... damn
I must say they are pretty different!
Note 2 is a 5.5'' while One is 4.7'' so it's a big difference in screen size
Note 2 is all plastic a la samsung meaning c.r.a.p. while the One is premium aluminum body
So if you don't like huge screen smartphones but prefer a 1080p delicious screen with Terminator build phone switch the damn phone
Seeing that this phone was not intended to go up against htc one, it sure is holding it own. Most post I reading only problem with the note is the material it made from. I say isn't this the reason we have insurance and for all those that are prone to dropping their phone..get a good case. Why do I need a phone that is waterproof? How many times are you going to drop it into the toilet? I got my note because I want phone and tablet and the note has lived up to that. I like the spec's of the one and if I was to cross over it would be because I want a new toy. Not because of some lame excuse the phone is aluminum.
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Seeing that this phone was not intended to go up against htc one, it sure is holding it own. Most post I reading only problem with the note is the material it made from. I say isn't this the reason we have insurance and for all those that are prone to dropping their phone..get a good case. Why do I need a phone that is waterproof? How many times are you going to drop it into the toilet? I got my note because I want phone and tablet and the note has lived up to that. I like the spec's of the one and if I was to cross over it would be because I want a new toy. Not because of some lame excuse the phone is aluminum.
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Driving a BMW 7 series with full option is the same as driving a kia picanto?
All the luxury and refined material make the BMW make you love to use it,the One is the same, just feel the aluminum body in your hand and the playschool samsung in the other and you will understand
I'm thinking about switching to the one it has great spec but not sure about the battery life. Note 2 has awesome battery life lasts.
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Currently using note 2 as well. I am selling in the coming days. That $$$ will go to my htc one.
I love the size of the note 2. I've always been partial to htc. I've had the opportunity to play with them side by side and I will have to adjust to a smaller screen. Yes, 4.7 is quite small after using the note 2.
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Driving a BMW 7 series with full option is the same as driving a kia picanto?
All the luxury and refined material make the BMW make you love to use it,the One is the same, just feel the aluminum body in your hand and the playschool samsung in the other and you will understand
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Like I said this argument would be valid if we were comparing to same things. I would argue about beats headphones vs Boise. I wouldn't argue a BMW (luxury car) vs an economy car. The consumer is buying for different reasons. BMW consumers has money and therefore it looks and feel pretty is okay. Economy consumers are on a budget therefore the question for them is can it get me from point a to point b.
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Also thinking of switching. My Note 2 is sold already, so now eyeing the HTC One.
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Wow. I've been using HyperDroid ROMs on my Note2 and I'm very happy to see you here!
And to the topic: my feelings with Note2 are absolutely same as OP. I hate the plastic and I never use s-pen. Its going to be my first HTC Android phone (had Titan 'bout year ago).
I'm seriously considering it, as much as I love the note 2 it feels too big in my hands. The One has a beautiful design, great screen, high ppi and those dual speakers are all things that attract me to it. But I'm waiting for the SGS4 reveal and user experience before making any decisions, I want to know how good the battery life is and if the gpu throttling is going to ruin the gaming experience on the device. If the phone holds up and the rumored specs of the SGS4 turns out to be true, I'm more than likely getting the One in black. But I will miss the expandable memory and amazing battery life of the Note though. Only time will tell

Whos's returning their Samsung Note 7?

After playing with the Note 7 for about a week, just came to the conclusion that it's not for me at the present time. Reasons below :
1: Size. I do not like the size. Was hoping it was a little bigger. At least the size on the Note 4 or Nexus SP.
2: Battery sucks for me. Constantly charging.
3: Speaker. Cannot hear it some time if I am in another room.
4: Still no IR Blaster
5: This should maybe be #1 PRICE POINT. $879.00 + high taxes just not worth it. No phone is perfect but "Them Prices way to high Samsung need to CUT IT"!
6: The screen scratches too easily. Fingerprints!
7: Fingerprint Sensor. You have to press the button. Plus, I have gotten use to it being on the back.
8: Touchwiz still lags.
Great phone in every other way. But the "wow" factor is missing for me at this price. The Note is really the best built phone out right now. This is a really hard decision. But with other phones coming out, I will take a wait and see attitude. By October when everything is out, if nothing better is out maybe I will revisit the NOTE 7.
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Have you scratched yours?
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After playing with the Note 7 for about a week, just came to the conclusion that it's not for me at the present time. Reasons below :
1: Size. I do not like the size. Was hoping it was a little bigger. At least the size on the Note 4 or Nexus SP.
2: Battery sucks for me. Constantly charging.
3: Speaker. Cannot hear it some time if I am in another room.
4: Still no IR Blaster
5: This should maybe be #1 PRICE POINT. $879.00 + high taxes just not worth it. No phone is perfect but "Them Prices way to high Samsung need to CUT IT"!
6: The screen scratches too easily. Fingerprints!
7: Fingerprint Sensor. You have to press the button. Plus, I have gotten use to it being on the back.
8: Touchwiz still lags.
Great phone in every other way. But the "wow" factor is missing for me at this price. The Note is really the best built phone out right now. This is a really hard decision. But with other phones coming out, I will take a wait and see attitude. By October when everything is out, if nothing better is out maybe I will revisit the NOTE 7.
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Some valid points but some are just nonsense....
You purchased the phone knowing the price and that it has no IR blaster so why does it now affect your purchase?
The finger print sensor has nothing wrong with it. Due to your preferences and what you are used to, you are creating this problem.
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You purchased the phone knowing the price and that it has no IR blaster so why does it now affect your purchase?
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in a way that when you pay almost 1000 EUR for a device, you expect much more.
and the test period has demonstrated that the device is not up to the expectations.
in other words, the device is overpriced; the price is grossly inflated.
that is evident to most users of previous Note models, even without purchasing it.
How bad is the speaker? Currently using nexus 6P but intend to pick one up soon.
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How bad is the speaker? Currently using nexus 6P but intend to pick one up soon.
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Volume is very low.
lskeys said:
After playing with the Note 7 for about a week, just came to the conclusion that it's not for me at the present time. Reasons below :.
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1: Size. I do not like the size. Was hoping it was a little bigger. At least the size on the Note 4 or Nexus SP.
- The screen is the same size so why would you want the body to be bigger? Doesn't make sense.
2: Battery sucks for me. Constantly charging.
- Depends on many many factors and there is always a bedding in period.
3: Speaker. Cannot hear it some time if I am in another room.
- It is down to the water proofing, but I read in many places it is still louder than some previous models.
4: Still no IR Blaster
- You knew this before you bought it.
5: This should maybe be #1 PRICE POINT. $879.00 + high taxes just not worth it. No phone is perfect but "Them Prices way to high Samsung need to CUT IT"!
-You knew this before you bought it.
6: The screen scratches too easily. Fingerprints!
- Glass = fingerprints, that's not unique to this phone. Put it in a premium case that still protects but still shows the look of the phone
7: Fingerprint Sensor. You have to press the button. Plus, I have gotten use to it being on the back.
- No you don't need to press it every time, just rest your finger on it when it asks for it.
8: Touchwiz still lags.
- Cannot be confirmed by everyone.
Then you went on to contradict yourself:
Great phone in every other way. But the "wow" factor is missing for me at this price. The Note is really the best built phone out right now. This is a really hard decision. But with other phones coming out, I will take a wait and see attitude. By October when everything is out, if nothing better is out maybe I will revisit the NOTE 7
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1: Size. I do not like the size. Was hoping it was a little bigger. At least the size on the Note 4 or Nexus SP.
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Its screen has the same size and resolution as the Note 4 and Note 5.
3: Speaker. Cannot hear it some time if I am in another room.
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The speaker works great for things like giving easily-heard directions while driving in a noisy car. I've never tried listening to a phone from another room. I find they're easy to take with me--fit right in my pocket! For music, I use BT headphones.
6: The screen scratches too easily.
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Are you reporting that you've scratched it, or just repeating others' rumors?
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1: Size. I do not like the size. Was hoping it was a little bigger. At least the size on the Note 4 or Nexus SP.
- The screen is the same size so why would you want the body to be bigger? Doesn't make sense.
2: Battery sucks for me. Constantly charging.
- Depends on many many factors and there is always a bedding in period.
3: Speaker. Cannot hear it some time if I am in another room.
- It is down to the water proofing, but I read in many places it is still louder than some previous models.
4: Still no IR Blaster
- You knew this before you bought it.
5: This should maybe be #1 PRICE POINT. $879.00 + high taxes just not worth it. No phone is perfect but "Them Prices way to high Samsung need to CUT IT"!
-You knew this before you bought it.
6: The screen scratches too easily. Fingerprints!
- Glass = fingerprints, that's not unique to this phone. Put it in a premium case that still protects but still shows the look of the phone
7: Fingerprint Sensor. You have to press the button. Plus, I have gotten use to it being on the back.
- No you don't need to press it every time, just rest your finger on it when it asks for it.
8: Touchwiz still lags.
- Cannot be confirmed by everyone.
Then you went on to contradict yourself:
Great phone in every other way. But the "wow" factor is missing for me at this price. The Note is really the best built phone out right now. This is a really hard decision. But with other phones coming out, I will take a wait and see attitude. By October when everything is out, if nothing better is out maybe I will revisit the NOTE 7
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I agree with the apprentice. This is exactly what I am saying about this thread as half of the things mentions are already known before purchasing or just common sense....it isn't a valid reason to then say the phone is a flop and you will be returning it.
Its fair enough to say that the battery is a let down or that the phone is scratching badly because we don't know this prior to having the handset. But to say that the glass gets fingerprints? I'm sure all glass gets finger prints unless it specifically says oleo-phobic and that its finger print proof then you don't have a case. Also to say the phone is expensive? yes it is we all know that but for some like myself i managed to get a very cheap sim only tariff and bought the phone outright. Over the course of 2 years it works out at around £35 per month which is the average for a decent handset and tariff.
It's just really number 5 - buyers remorse.
Nice burn apprentice.
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Why not? You can hand over $879 + tax expecting something more than you eventually got. Then the lack of IR for instance could be offset by other advantages.
Isn't the screen smaller due to 0,1" going AWOL at the edges? So you have 5,5" flat estate and the rest is in the curves? It makes the phone smaller, but there are many 5,5" flat phones out there.
Advising a case to hide your glorious new phone in, is bad imo. It is just Samsung chose one of the worst materials to build a phone. A fragile front is more than enough. Having a backside that is slippery and accident prone is another.
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Why not? You can hand over $879 + tax expecting something more than you eventually got. Then the lack of IR for instance could be offset by other advantages.
Isn't the screen smaller due to 0,1" going AWOL at the edges? So you have 5,5" flat estate and the rest is in the curves? It makes the phone smaller, but there are many 5,5" flat phones out there.
Advising a case to hide your glorious new phone in, is bad imo. It is just Samsung chose one of the worst materials to build a phone. A fragile front is more than enough. Having a backside that is slippery and accident prone is another.
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I agree it would be nice to have 0.2" more of usable screen but that would make the phone much wider and harder to handle.
We all know full well that Samsung were pushed into making their phones better looking and innovative. Journalists, bloggers and even guys like us moaned like hell about plastic or faux leather materials and boring designs. They were losing market shares and they needed to act. So they introduce glass and aluminium, they slim down the whole phone and do an amazing and well received job of making the phone look very sexy, and very different to all the other flat slabs out there. We all say yes! Good job! Samsung is now back on the ball, they sell very well and everyone is happy.... But as is always the case of impossible to please everyone... we get those complaining that they lost the removable batteries and the phone is all slippery and fragile and "I will never buy Samsung again... yada yada" But curved screens, glass and aluminium are here to stay for now because they sell and that is what Samsung is in this game for.
If you want to buy into all that and a lot of us do, then yes, a case is pretty much necessary. And to be fair the cases that Samsung offer really do ensure the phone still looks amazing. And if you need to have better protection there are alternatives.
Im returning mine due to some pink spots on the right side of the screen but not for a refund but for 1 to 1 exchange
Returning mine because its much slower then my note 5. Installs literally take twice as long. It makes no sense.
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I agree it would be nice to have 0.2" more of usable screen but that would make the phone much wider and harder to handle.
We all know full well that Samsung were pushed into making their phones better looking and innovative. Journalists, bloggers and even guys like us moaned like hell about plastic or faux leather materials and boring designs. They were losing market shares and they needed to act. So they introduce glass and aluminium, they slim down the whole phone and do an amazing and well received job of making the phone look very sexy, and very different to all the other flat slabs out there. We all say yes! Good job! Samsung is now back on the ball, they sell very well and everyone is happy.... But as is always the case of impossible to please everyone... we get those complaining that they lost the removable batteries and the phone is all slippery and fragile and "I will never buy Samsung again... yada yada" But curved screens, glass and aluminium are here to stay for now because they sell and that is what Samsung is in this game for.
If you want to buy into all that and a lot of us do, then yes, a case is pretty much necessary. And to be fair the cases that Samsung offer really do ensure the phone still looks amazing. And if you need to have better protection there are alternatives.
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Oh, yes I do agree Samsung was led astray when all the reviewers were whining about plastic phones and the Hansaplast S5 wasn't the best design they could make. Yet plastic is one of the best materials for a phone. It is light, scratch resistant, doesn't block signals or wireless charging and can be made in all colors and shapes. They got it wrong with the yucky feeling S3/S4/Note 2. After the S4 slipped out of my hand again, I got the Note 3 almost as soon as it was available. The faux leather stitching on it is bad, but the back cover gets the job done. After almost three years of use it has zero scratches and it is very grippy. Same as the N4. It survives my wifes handbag for almost two years now, which is no small feat for a phone. I was waiting for the N5, but if I wanted it, it needed parallel importing. That was too much hassle for a slippery phone with no SD-card, small, non-replaceble battery and glass everywhere.
The N7 is better than the N5, but I'll need to think long and hard if and when I'm going to buy it.
I'm definitely returning mine
#1. no Root
#2. Fast charging is fake, not fast at all
#3. Advertized very long battery life, also fake, it drains just as fast as it did in the past phones when playing games, with WiFi On, GPS On, and Bluetooth On.
#4. I'm seeing a lot of scary cracked glass for normal day to day operations (pocket) that is why I never went with Apple phones
#5. The wireless charging doesn't work well with Generic off brand wireless chargers.
#6. SIM card / SD card slot requires pin to pop out, if you push to hard to eject the button breaks off, and you are stuck with the SIM / SD card inside.
This is a Major No No for me, I swap SD card regularly,
in older models it was as easy as 1, 2, 3. (Pop the real case open, eject SD card, insert SD card, done)
I'm not happy at all with the Note 7 mainly due the lack of root, I could have overlooked some of the transgression listed above, but not having root, makes the phone useless to me.
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How bad is the speaker? Currently using nexus 6P but intend to pick one up soon.
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Hi, Learn, if you listen to the naysayers on any forum you would never leave the house and certainly never make another purchase, not even have a hair cut. The Note 7 is a bloody good mobile. Buy it, experience it, if you don't like it you have 14 days to return it so someone else waiting for it can enjoy it. :highfive:
I have to say this Note 7 forum is getting silly. There are dedicated haters here who just post in nearly every thread criticising something they don't even own. Its turning to the point of hysteria on some threads. :silly:
Buy and enjoy.
Ryland
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I'm definitely returning mine
#1. no Root
#2. Fast charging is fake, not fast at all
#3. Advertized very long battery life, also fake, it drains just as fast as it did in the past phones when playing games, with WiFi On, GPS On, and Bluetooth On.
#4. I'm seeing a lot of scary cracked glass for normal day to day operations (pocket) that is why I never went with Apple phones
#5. The wireless charging doesn't work well with Generic off brand wireless chargers.
#6. SIM card / SD card slot requires pin to pop out, if you push to hard to eject the button breaks off, and you are stuck with the SIM / SD card inside.
This is a Major No No for me, I swap SD card regularly,
in older models it was as easy as 1, 2, 3. (Pop the real case open, eject SD card, insert SD card, done)
I'm not happy at all with the Note 7 mainly due the lack of root, I could have overlooked some of the transgression listed above, but not having root, makes the phone useless to me.
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I have to disagree with a lot of things you have listed here. Especially as you claim fast charging is fake! Even if it wasn't as fast as you liked you can't simply dismiss it as fake. Before buying the phone you must have known about the SD card slot - where else could it go and still retain good water resistance?
But the whole thing about rooting is premature. How many new high end devices are rootable in the first couple of weeks of release? We have hit dead ends before regarding rooting but then someone finds a way through. But if you want it rooted today then I guess that's your reason for dismissing this phone. It makes me wonder why you bought it before looking into this particular issue.
May seem strange to most of you guys but the lack of IR blaster kills it for me. I use it on my note 3 all day everyday. Air-conditioning at work and at home. My TV and set top box. My fan. It's such a small piece of tech with so much use. Kind of annoys me that they took it away.
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I have to disagree with a lot of things you have listed here. Especially as you claim fast charging is fake! Even if it wasn't as fast as you liked you can't simply dismiss it as fake. Before buying the phone you must have known about the SD card slot - where else could it go and still retain good water resistance?
But the whole thing about rooting is premature. How many new high end devices are rootable in the first couple of weeks of release? We have hit dead ends before regarding rooting but then someone finds a way through. But if you want it rooted today then I guess that's your reason for dismissing this phone. It makes me wonder why you bought it before looking into this particular issue.
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I bought into the hype after watching the live unveil in New York.
I was actually checking out the Nexus 6p, as I wanted a new phone with Root.
in the past Samsung phones used to be a safe bet to get root, but seems like since the S7 the game has changed.
Fast charging is as you said not fast enough, 1 hour charge to only get 60% to 70% is not much improvement over the Note 3 / Note 4 charging, somehow the way I use my phones they can drain the battery faster than it can recharge itself.
So battery packs has always been my friend, as I keep several charged battery packs ready to swap in/out.
Reason why I skipped Note 5, due the lack of battery swap. I decided to give Note 7 a try thinking it should have improved, but nope it's just exactly as I guestimated it would perform, and the educated guess was spot on.
I was not really surprised by the charge speed lack of performance, just the Advertisements, and the Unveil event made it such a huge deal that is was like WOW... but in reality it does not really deliver as advertised.
The charge speed performance is no different than previous generation, phone batteries like Note 3 and Note 4, using a normal 2A charger and a battery charger, my batteries pack are full in about 2 hours aprox same time it takes for the Note 7 using the "fast charge" to reach 100%
The so called fast charge to 50% in 30 min is bogus, I was clocking it, it was more like 45min to an Hour depending if the phone was Off or On... which is pretty much the same rate why it takes aprox 2 hours for 100% charge.
The old Notes 3/4, charges at about the same rate as Note 7, so they are just advertising the same old as new, I don't really see any real improvement over previous model.
With the removal of the option to swap battery packs since Note 5, it makes it even less appealing knowing you'll be stuck without battery until you find a plug.
In Note 3 and Note 4, you simply pop out the drained battery and pop in the 100% charged battery, downtime 60 sec at most to open back cover swap the battery and replace the back cover.
The Note 5 and Note 7 downtime ranges until you find a plug, or you carry one of those external battery top up dongles, not very appealing. I know those are very common with Apple users, and I don't like carrying those bulky USB dongles with me.
Battery life If I'm being conservative and turn off GPS, turn off Bluetooth, and turn off WiFi, I can get aprox 3 hours with Note 7, which is again about the same time I get with previous Note 3 and Note 4.
So the claim for an improved battery life is also bogus advertisement.
I still have about 7 days to keep it, if nothing changes by then, it's going back to the store.
The only nice feature I like on the Note 7 is the Iris scanner, and the 4x MIMO, actually that's the only reason the Note 7 picked my interest, I wanted to see if the 4x MIMO would improve signal quality, in poor reception areas, and it did.
so, of all the hyped propagandas during the live unveil and Ads, only the Iris scanner and 4x mimo actually performs as advertised, everything else, not so much, like the "free" game pack that is not available to people in North America >.< ...like really, advertised live during a new york event, and then they said, or sorry that's not for you.

Question Galaxy z fold 3 worth it?

Hey this question mostly guess for the people that have had their phone since launch Has it been worth the money? I was wondering how do u like it? and Is the battery as terrible as every YouTuber makes it seem? I just ordered and I'm so excited
Yes it's worth it!
Biggest downer for me is no e-sim.
Battery life is fine.
And most importantly the camera is FAR better than youtube reviewers are saying.
Again in my experience.
I got it a few days before launch day and have loved it every day since. The big screen is totally worth it! I almost never use the outer screen, just occasionally for things like telling the med reminder app I took my med if my phone is already folded, or camera preview so I can take a more quality selfie with the back cameras (phone open), etc. Battery life is good for me. Speed and storage (larger version) are great, screen quality (on natural not vivid) is great, etc. The T-mobile connection issues suck and I hope they are fixed soon, but not all T-mobile customers have the issue (my friend in another state doesn't). But, the temporary fix helps - I just need them to fix it so it can roam so I'm not worried when traveling anywhere. Finding a good case isn't fun, though. I like the one I have now, but I don't think it would protect it very much from a drop/fall.
I've had it since launch..............believe it or not, I use the outer screen more than the inner one. I have taken it on vacation a couple of times. The most recent trip was to Hawaii back in December. Just before we left, I found a case that had a built-in kickstand and actually added more bulk to the phone than I realized..........well, that made the device cumbersome carrying it around on hikes and to the beach. Sometimes, depending on what shorts I was wearing, I would carry the phone in my left hand while walking around Waikiki just so it wouldn't "weigh" me down. I went back to the slimmer case after I got home. Phone has been out since August, and haven't seen anybody else with the same phone. I thought I would on vacation, but trips to busy airports, shopping malls, etc...........didn't see another person with the ZFold. I know it's expensive but you see big iphones everywhere and those aren't cheap either. I do miss the width of my Note-10+ instead of this slimmer one. Was tempted to do the trade-in for the Galaxy S22 Ultra, but will probably wait to see if the ZFold4 is any better and might upgrade to that. Only problem is, the trade-in value of the ZFold3 will drop by then. I hear the next Fold will have the S-pen and a 5000mah battery, not sure if that is enough to upgrade. Currently, you can get $900 trade-in through Samsung, T-Mobile chat person said I can get $1000 through them..............but will probably hold on to mine for now. I don't do any multiple apps tasks, but probably should try to do more to maximize its use and justify why I got it. The 5G on it, for the most part, isn't great. I was getting the 5G UC symbol a couple of weeks ago and not anymore. There was a software update last week and I think it was a T-mobile update to get rid of that symbol, didn't include the Feb security patch. Currently with the Speedtest app, getting 20.9 download, and 6.57 upload. It was way better than that prior to the update.............thanks T-mobile!
ButterflyFlutterflyMyOhMy said:
I got it a few days before launch day and have loved it every day since. The big screen is totally worth it! I almost never use the outer screen, just occasionally for things like telling the med reminder app I took my med if my phone is already folded, or camera preview so I can take a more quality selfie with the back cameras (phone open), etc. Battery life is good for me. Speed and storage (larger version) are great, screen quality (on natural not vivid) is great, etc. The T-mobile connection issues suck and I hope they are fixed soon, but not all T-mobile customers have the issue (my friend in another state doesn't). But, the temporary fix helps - I just need them to fix it so it can roam so I'm not worried when traveling anywhere. Finding a good case isn't fun, though. I like the one I have now, but I don't think it would protect it very much from a drop/fall.
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I need to shut up, as I picked up my phone today and it jumped out of my hands. I tried to catch it, but couldn't quite get it as it bounced off my fingers and onto the hardwood floor inner screen face-down. I thought it was a goner when I picked it up and the touch sensors were not working on the inner screen (tried to get to the notification I needed to respond to as I took my med), but I turned the screen off and back on again and it was working fine again. Tested most of the diagnostics in the Samsung Members app and everything was fine. Phew!
The front screen side of the case did slide off a bit in the fall, but it didn't break and slid back on when I picked it up. I do use double-sided tape so it doesn't slide every time I open the phone (don't want to scratch the front screen), but it wasn't enough for the fall.
ButterflyFlutterflyMyOhMy said:
I need to shut up, as I picked up my phone today and it jumped out of my hands. I tried to catch it, but couldn't quite get it as it bounced off my fingers and onto the hardwood floor inner screen face-down. I thought it was a goner when I picked it up and the touch sensors were not working on the inner screen (tried to get to the notification I needed to respond to as I took my med), but I turned the screen off and back on again and it was working fine again. Tested most of the diagnostics in the Samsung Members app and everything was fine. Phew!
The front screen side of the case did slide off a bit in the fall, but it didn't break and slid back on when I picked it up. I do use double-sided tape so it doesn't slide every time I open the phone (don't want to scratch the front screen), but it wasn't enough for the fall.
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Nice to hear that it didn't break. I think I dropped mine (folded) about a month or two after I got it and nothing happened, case protected it.....seems to be very durable device.
For me personally. Its worthed it. I upgraded from my 1 year old iPhone 12 Pro Max. Now i can freely buy accessories without worrying that it wouldn't work(because not all accessories are MFI certified in Indonesia).
And not to forget that the Z Fold 3 when closed is not that wide, thus making it easier for 1 handed use.
Yes and no chance to change it!!!
I have it since the launch. I have also a Iphone 13 pro. I have tried meanwhile s21 and Pixel 6 and Mi11 Ultra. So now a couple of months of using I can only say: Once Fold and forever Fold. Yes it's heavy and bulky. But Yes is the only one TABLET that is good for one hand operation and phone calls and can you carry in pants pocket. And the camera is not super duper but is top, and the battery (SOC Snapdragon) is far better than any other Exynos on the market and on the planet.
ycats said:
Nice to hear that it didn't break. I think I dropped mine (folded) about a month or two after I got it and nothing happened, case protected it.....seems to be very durable device.
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So am I! I'll be paying for this phone for the next 2.5 years, so it needs to stay in one piece for a long time to come. My previous phone I had for 5-6 years, but of all it wasn't a folding phone. A friend of mine dropped his Fold 3 on tile and had to get a new front screen protector, but it otherwise survived the fall.
propov8 said:
Yes and no chance to change it!!!
I have it since the launch. I have also a Iphone 13 pro. I have tried meanwhile s21 and Pixel 6 and Mi11 Ultra. So now a couple of months of using I can only say: Once Fold and forever Fold. Yes it's heavy and bulky. But Yes is the only one TABLET that is good for one hand operation and phone calls and can you carry in pants pocket. And the camera is not super duper but is top, and the battery (SOC Snapdragon) is far better than any other Exynos on the market and on the planet.
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I actually like the bulk of the phone when closed because it makes it easier to hold and carry without dropping it (when I dropped it, it was open to the inner screen), and I'm saying this as a woman with small hands (medium glove size).
Took a look at the fold3 in an at&t store the other day. Looks like they have the first generation bugs squished. By the time I'm ready to buy a new one, I'll probably get the fold 4 or 5.
Love the phone. Love it so much I have a second as a backup in case this one breaks (truth!). I love the ability to use the front screen one handed. I love having that big inner screen when multitasking or reviewing/editing large documents. The only thing I also wish I had was a zoom/macro lens. It doesn't even have to be a nice one, just a passable one. But I don't take many pictures so I usually let that slide.
I've had mine since October 2021 and it's been one of the most enjoyable experiences I've had with a gadget. The display is amazing, it's fast, camera is decent enough, I love tablet mode, like really, really love it. I definitely can't wait for the next generation of foldables because it's just going to get better. It's definitely worth buying now however, if your still having doubts.
chetly968 said:
Love the phone. Love it so much I have a second as a backup in case this one breaks (truth!). I love the ability to use the front screen one handed. I love having that big inner screen when multitasking or reviewing/editing large documents. The only thing I also wish I had was a zoom/macro lens. It doesn't even have to be a nice one, just a passable one. But I don't take many pictures so I usually let that slide.
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I bought the Oppo Find N (foldable) as my backup. It's actually a really awesome phone, with features and design choices that I find better than my Z Fold 3. One thing is it's size, it's fantastic, definitely the better choice on Oppo's side to choose such a wide design. It's even better when you use it in tablet mode as it's aspect ratio is 16:9, which means more apps support it better.
for me i like having the 2 phone factor one big one small, so I am never really bored looking and using it. I find when I am home and chilled i use the big screen more but when i am out and about the small screen, If only they can cut away some of the weight it would be perfect.
It’s just an incredible experience. I have been a loyal Note fan since the first Note, but after owning the Fold 3 I can safely tell you that I won’t go back to a slab phone, even to a Note
ghassan haddad said:
It’s just an incredible experience. I have been a loyal Note fan since the first Note, but after owning the Fold 3 I can safely tell you that I won’t go back to a slab phone, even to a Note
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Same here !
I tried the S22 Ultra @ Bestbuy , it's really a nice phone , but .. it can't convert into a minitablet so .. nah !
Im going for the next generation (Fold4)
pvillasuso said:
Same here !
I tried the S22 Ultra @ Bestbuy , it's really a nice phone , but .. it can't convert into a minitablet so .. nah !
Im going for the next generation (Fold4)
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I've had a z Fold 3 since the 1st month it came out. Great phone but I ended up pre-ordering the S22 Ultra just to test the waters. Been a note fan since the early days. Just received the S22 ultra this week and it's also a great phone. The integrated s pen and bigger battery has definitely tipped the scales in favor of the S22 ultra so I'll be returning the Fold. I will miss that huge screen though!
Had the phone since february, dropped it once and although the front body dented a little bit, the phone is still working well. Been using the bigger screen for media and the smaller screen for calls and short messages. IDK why some doesn't have e-sim but mine does.
I've had the Fold 3 for around a month now, as I had to replace my Note 9 N960N. I can honestly say that it is the best purchase I have made this year. It is such a good device, I can use it for everything from gaming to media consumption for work. It is truly a very versatile device.
The fact that you can use it as a normal phone and open it up to a tablet for a more completely experience blows my mind every time I use it.

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