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I've been using WP7 for about 5-6 days now. It's been an interesting combination of "How can that be missing?" and "Holy crap, that's cool!". By far, I think the most awesome and unique features are the cloud-related ones, like auto upload photos to SkyDrive and Zune.
And then I discovered the uber-coolness of OneNote.
As with many things on WP7, the documentation is scarce, burried, or both. But, did you know that you can have tabbed OneNote Notebook on WP7? Did you know that it can be perfectly synced to the free Web version and to the Office 2010 version of your PC?
Did you know that you can even have multiple notebooks?
If not, here's how:
1. Go to office.live.com on your PC, and make sure that you have a OneNote file created. If you've used OneNote from your PC, there should be a Personal (Web) file. If not, create it.
2. If you have OneNote on your PC, you can open it from office.live.com; just hover over the file, and click Open in OneNote. OneNote will save a book tab on the left side (in rotated print).
3. On your phone, set OneNote sync on (from Settings / Applications / Office / OneNote). Make sure to set Internet to default to mobile version (important!) and navigate to office.live.com in the Browser.
4. Go to the folder you have the OneNote Notebook, and tap it to open it. This automatically adds the Notebook to your OneNote on the phone, and opens it in OneNote. The tabs will all sync.
Presto -- you now have a Cloud based OneNote Notebook synced to your phone! You can see all your tabs, and all your pages; if you make changes, it all gets synced on the cloud automatically, and you can see it all on your Office 2010 version of OneNote, too!
You can even color your tabs. Just set the colors on your PC or Web, and they'll sync on the phone.
Want a second or third notebook? Just create a new one on Office Live, then go there on the phone and add it.
Also: if you tap and hold a notebook section (tab) you have the ability to set that as the default for new pages.
Neat, huh?
Thanks for letting us know, shame I don´t have a WP7
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Excellent. I'm a bit of a OneNote junky. I use it for everything. This is great info. Thanks for sharing.
interesting find.
Now we just have to wait for the barrage of people who think the cloud is evil....
Great tip! Just tried it on my HD7 and it works great!
I'm wondering; is there any way to password protect individual pages or tabs? If so, this would be the ideal way to store my passwords and bank details. As of now, there's no eWallet or SPB Wallet for WP7 and I'm missing that functionality :-(
NB I suppose I could set a pin for the phone in general, for basic protection, but still if I give my phone to someone to make a call or whatever they could still open my notes...
The password protection issue is part of my "huh, how did they miss THAT (scratches head)?". It also bugs me that once you put a credit card into Zune marketplace, anyone can make purchases without password approval too -- what's up with that?
Cell phones are normally a "singler user" device unlike computers (although even those are now single-user more often than not). If you want to password protect your notes, just put a pin on your lockscreen that will in effect password protect your whole phone.
thanks for the tip! was wondering how to get one note to sync up! love it
The problem that I have with locking the phone is twofold: first, I don't like how long it takes to go from locked to home screen (too many taps). Second, I generally don't need to lock my phone - the problem is, if I let someone else play with my phone (for example, a kid, in a restaurant to keep them quiet!), I don't want to worry about them buying something on Marketplace
It's not a deal killer for me, and I use my phone totally non-password protected ATM.
Talys said:
if I let someone else play with my phone (for example, a kid, in a restaurant to keep them quiet!), I don't want to worry about them buying something on Marketplace
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You will give some random kid in a restaurant a $500 device to play with and possibly drop or run off with but then you worry about the 5% chance they will accidently purchase a $5 app?
Talys said:
I've been using WP7 for about 5-6 days now. It's been an interesting combination of "How can that be missing?" and "Holy crap, that's cool!". By far, I think the most awesome and unique features are the cloud-related ones, like auto upload photos to SkyDrive and Zune.
And then I discovered the uber-coolness of OneNote.
As with many things on WP7, the documentation is scarce, burried, or both. But, did you know that you can have tabbed OneNote Notebook on WP7? Did you know that it can be perfectly synced to the free Web version and to the Office 2010 version of your PC?
Did you know that you can even have multiple notebooks?
If not, here's how:
1. Go to office.live.com on your PC, and make sure that you have a OneNote file created. If you've used OneNote from your PC, there should be a Personal (Web) file. If not, create it.
2. If you have OneNote on your PC, you can open it from office.live.com; just hover over the file, and click Open in OneNote. OneNote will save a book tab on the left side (in rotated print).
3. On your phone, set OneNote sync on (from Settings / Applications / Office / OneNote). Make sure to set Internet to default to mobile version (important!) and navigate to office.live.com in the Browser.
4. Go to the folder you have the OneNote Notebook, and tap it to open it. This automatically adds the Notebook to your OneNote on the phone, and opens it in OneNote. The tabs will all sync.
Presto -- you now have a Cloud based OneNote Notebook synced to your phone! You can see all your tabs, and all your pages; if you make changes, it all gets synced on the cloud automatically, and you can see it all on your Office 2010 version of OneNote, too!
You can even color your tabs. Just set the colors on your PC or Web, and they'll sync on the phone.
Want a second or third notebook? Just create a new one on Office Live, then go there on the phone and add it.
Also: if you tap and hold a notebook section (tab) you have the ability to set that as the default for new pages.
Neat, huh?
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there is an easier way to get the books synced to your phone and anyone else who you want to have the same onenote books.
1 go to onenote on you pc.
2 click file new
3 in store notebook on select web
4 enter the name of book
5 web location select skydrive and make sure you are logged in to win live
6 if you want a different folder than the default folder (My Doccuments) click new share folder
7 click create folder
8 it will then ask you if you want to email the link to someone
9 click this selection and email it to your phone or anyone else you want to share this book with even other pcs.
10 on your phone in the email you get select the 1st option ("open this book in onenote)
your done.
Everything about How To Use OneNote and sync is well explained here:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/howto/wp7/office/use-office-onenote-mobile.aspx
This has been known forever. You can even Sync OneNote on Windows Mobile 6.5 to Desktop OneNote. They started advertising this before the OS was released, back when they gave away office mobile 2010 for WM6.5 users to let them know what was coming in their next mobile OS/Office version.
The annoying thing about Onenote on WP7 is that:
1. it doesnt support equations
2. it doesnt display symbols that aren't in the WP7 keyboard but are present on the PC
3. you can't enlarge a diagram in an existing notebook to view it full size
renders it almost useless to me...
or i need to reformat all my lecture notes! :'(
I've set this up, but am having a few problems:
I have four notebooks on my computer, all are set to sync with Sky Drive. I've opened One Note on my device and told it to sync to Sky Drive. It has added a 5th Note (Personal (web)) to my Sky Drive, which has taken the tabs from one of my Note Books and they now sync to the phone. But it is ignoring the other Notebooks completely.
What do I need to do to get all my Notebooks to Sync?
paulrockliffe said:
I've set this up, but am having a few problems:
I have four notebooks on my computer, all are set to sync with Sky Drive. I've opened One Note on my device and told it to sync to Sky Drive. It has added a 5th Note (Personal (web)) to my Sky Drive, which has taken the tabs from one of my Note Books and they now sync to the phone. But it is ignoring the other Notebooks completely.
What do I need to do to get all my Notebooks to Sync?
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Hey dude, there was another thread which answered this question in more depth
But to summarise it for you:
1. make sure you have your phone browser settings to view mobile version
2. go to office.live.com on your phone
3. click on the icon to open the notebooks you want to snyc
4. repeat with any others you want to sync
5. SORTED!!!
The trick is to go to the mobile version of skydrive..,. why it doesn't work when you use the desktop version, i have no idea but at least it works...
Sweet, worked a charm. Not sure why the auto-setup think made such a hash of it though!
You guys got me curious and now I'm hooked on OneNote! How could I have never used this before! I have Office 2010 Professional and never used it till now. Sweet!
eternalemb said:
You guys got me curious and now I'm hooked on OneNote! How could I have never used this before! I have Office 2010 Professional and never used it till now. Sweet!
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same here. Very nice to bang out a list on the computer, close it, and it will pop up on my phone.
Ok driving me nuts
I have a quick question I was able to successfully sync the one notes with my focus and my work pc, is there a way I can connect my home desktop to these shared notes? I have been trying desperately to get this done, and for the life of me can't get it working. And I though that opening the file in one note on the pc would do it but my browser some reason doesn't support that..?
I have been trying to find out if windows 7 mobile is able to support my excel spreadsheet. Some retailers say yes no problem, others say my formulas are to complex, no one has been able to try it for me. How can I find out if my spreadsheet can be read, edited and it calculates properly before I buy?
Does the handset make any differance or is the win 7 the same on all? I haven't purchased a handset as of yet as I am still trying to find out what apps I can use on them. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I very much want excel and word support, pdf reader is a must - creator would be a real plus. Gps would be real nice too.
Thus far I am leaning towards the htc surround, it seems to be one of the better options in my limited market.
before you buy the device,I have to let you know that,unless you are using microsoft sharepoint,if not the office application is kind of useless.
me as a student,I can't even transfer my lecture note to the device and revise it anywhere.
so,think twice before you buy a device
onenote is the only thing that you can sync to skydrive. so you can edit them on the web as well.
excel and word on the hand has to be emailed back and forth if you don't have sharepoint.
MS did demo a skydrive client at CES, which will be part of mango update, released in fall 2011, so that will be the resolve, but till then email is the only way to do it.
Thanks for the tips, I can see more research is in order.
You don't have to email word and excel documents in order to make them usable on a WP7 device. You can also choose to sync these items with either dropbox - which has several clients for WP7 - or software solutions like homepipe. Both work fine, either way.
But it's truely just a workaround until MS will provide full skydrive support. Which should have been part of WP7 from day one in the first place.
Transfering isn't a big deal, I would like to put the spreadsheet template on the handset, add in the data as needed and have excel do the calculations. Perhaps a quarterly backup to the computer would be fine. Will the handset excel sync with the desktop app, filling in the fields or would that have to be done manually?
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Transfering isn't a big deal, I would like to put the spreadsheet template on the handset, add in the data as needed and have excel do the calculations. Perhaps a quarterly backup to the computer would be fine. Will the handset excel sync with the desktop app, filling in the fields or would that have to be done manually?
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I never really tried that, because I hardly use excel. But the way I described works with word, so why should it be any different with excel? Just save the file created on your desktop PC to your dropbox folder (or any other folder you can sync with your handset), then download and open it from the client app on your device.
Attila7 said:
Transfering isn't a big deal, I would like to put the spreadsheet template on the handset, add in the data as needed and have excel do the calculations. Perhaps a quarterly backup to the computer would be fine. Will the handset excel sync with the desktop app, filling in the fields or would that have to be done manually?
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Well, I just looked into my zune & LG Quantum transfer options, and I could not find any options regarding transferring any type of files that are not music, video or podcasts. EDIT: NM, miss understood your question. I don't believe the spreadsheets will sync. But using dropbox, this wouldn't be an issue, as you would always be opening the dropbox copy of the spreadsheet.
RE: seeing whether or not your excel spreadsheet will run properly, I am not sure how private/personal your spreadsheet is, but you could email it to a user here to test it and report back to you if it works.
Would the dropbox copy be the same as the computer copy? Would someone be willing to try the template for me to see if it will run and calculate properly? That is a great idea! The template is about 1.5 mb. If anyone is willing to try this for me please PM me, thanks.
i use Excel a lot on my windows phone by using a budget spreadsheet I whipped up on my computer. I know there are multitudes of budgets apps but why do that when you can auto calculate averages, sums, and present them graphically with a simple spread sheet?
Now at the moment, the only way to get Office docs (Word or Excel) on the phone is via emailing your self or as others suggested dropbox or file server. The downside is changes made on the phone isn't synced back to the source. You have to email the changes to yourself.
Microsoft has demoed Skydrive integration coming in the Fall update. Changes made then will be automatically synced like One note is now.
As for formulas, my formulas and graphs work and show up on the phone just fine! However I am not sure if more complicated ones work as I was unable to edit an excel timesheet from my job on my phone (says unable to open this file created from earlier office version). I am willing to test this template for you.
Feel free to PM it to me.
Also one way to get office documents on the phone iis utilizing skydrive instead of dropbox
1, I mapped my skydrive "My Documents" folder as a network drive on my Windows 7 PC
2. I save all my office documents there. I can edit them, delete them, rename them just as any other folder.
3. One the phone you can access skydrive via the browser and download your files without needing drop box or 3rd party solutions. The downside is being unable to upload them back!
4. Do maintenance, email your changed document and replace it on the desktop yourself.
Hope this helps.
sayonical said:
1, I mapped my skydrive "My Documents" folder as a network drive on my Windows 7 PC
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how did you do this? i would like to know as i've always wanted to do this as well. Windows Live Mesh doesn't seem to do it the way i want.
The Gate Keeper said:
how did you do this? i would like to know as i've always wanted to do this as well. Windows Live Mesh doesn't seem to do it the way i want.
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If you have Office2010 follow this easy guide
http://downloadsquad.switched.com/2010/04/25/use-office-2010-to-map-a-local-drive-letter-to-your-free-25gb-live-skydrive/
awesome! i'll give this a try when i get home.
I'm trying to improve performance with a Seagate Wireless Plus and Microsoft Surface RT. The Wireless Plus can stream video and audio through an app on iDevices and Android (where it works very well). There is no app for Windows RT but files can be displayed using Internet Explorer. Selecting a file starts sending the file to the Surface RT but Surface waits until the file is fully downloaded before it starts playing. I'm using the default, Xbox Video app.
Is there a better solution?
Is there some way to force the video to start playing while the file is downloading?
Is there an app hidden somewhere that will work with the Wireless Plus?
Thank you
Questions 2 and 3 are both flat no's.
Question 1 though, if you can access the files in a file browser (ie, not internet explorer) which if the device isnt a pile of junk you should be able to, then browse to them in the file browser and open them from there. Windows will stream them fine in this way.
Sadly looking at the user guide for the wireless plus, seagate have shot themselves in the foot before rubbing salt in their wounds. They haven't allowed the device to function as a standard network storage device like they should have (which would have massively broadened the number of devices it would work with and increased the flexibility in its usage) and won't allow you to view it in that way.
Alternately, you could just use the USB cable......
It should actually be possible to write an app to do this, but I'm not aware of one that works. If there's a Windows desktop app that does the trick, it might be possible to port it, or something else that speaks the same protocol, to (jailbroken) RT devices.
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It should actually be possible to write an app to do this, but I'm not aware of one that works. If there's a Windows desktop app that does the trick, it might be possible to port it, or something else that speaks the same protocol, to (jailbroken) RT devices.
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Thanks for the note.
Are you volunteering?
The Wireless Plus has a samba server so I can see and open files with File Explorer. I was hoping for something a bit easier for someone who is not so technically proficient (as in the wife).
stlbud said:
Thanks for the note.
Are you volunteering?
The Wireless Plus has a samba server so I can see and open files with File Explorer. I was hoping for something a bit easier for someone who is not so technically proficient (as in the wife).
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big shortcut on the desktop, that usually works.
Although in my stepdads case I had to add a new shortcut to chrome, then go into properties and give it the internet explorer icon and put "INTERNET" as the shortcut text and leave it on the desktop in the very top left corner where he can find it. From there he was fine though. Just the chrome icon confused him somehow and since then he now seems to get the idea of different web browsers existing separately but the icon has stayed where it is. This is still the same person who also saves all of his files to the desktop and cant find them if they go anywhere else, such as his documents.....
Should cover the wife and if the samba server works properly you should simply be able to add a shortcut to it directly to whichever directory you need. I should think it should be fine like that.
One of the reason i finally decided to go Android/Dex over IOS is cuz of its multi-tasking capabilities.
However, i was wondering if i would be able to run, say 2 Word documents at the same time while in Dex mode?
And does excel run macros/vlookups etc?
Did you try parallel apps ? Not sure about dex
Does anybody know if with the One UI update in Pie this is possible? I have a Tab S3 and I may upgrade to the Tab S4 if this is now possible.
I basically want to be able to multitask with two Word or Excel documents side by side. Any way to do this?
To get split screen view go to your recents menu and tap the icon of the app and it should say open in split screen view. Thats how i do it on my Tab S4 with Android P
You can only open one instance of most apps, and one document within them.. The only app I know let's you open multiple windows in DeX is Desktop Browser.
Otherwise, you can use two different apps in multiwindow or DeX to open the same file type - MS Excel, Google Sheets, Polaris Office, Office Sheets, etc for Excel... Adobe Acrobat & Moon+ Reader for pdf's... Etc...
This is a big miss compared to a real PC desktop environment.
Joe
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You can only open one instance of most apps, and one document within them.. The only app I know let's you open multiple windows in DeX is Desktop Browser.
Otherwise, you can use two different apps in multiwindow or DeX to open the same file type - MS Excel, Google Sheets, Polaris Office, Office Sheets, etc for Excel... Adobe Acrobat & Moon+ Reader for pdf's... Etc...
This is a big miss compared to a real PC desktop environment.
Joe
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AFAIK Polaris office can handle two instances at same time...
I tried in stock android and couldn't get two word docs to open separately. But maybe in DeX. The ads are terrible.
drjoe1 said:
This is a big miss compared to a real PC desktop environment.
Joe
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Yeah, I saw the new iPad OS is able to do this and multitask with two or more instances of the same app. If we could do this it would really replace my laptop in most cases.
Hi! I install windows 10 rt in my surface rt 1. I thinks thats a solution for Internet Browser problems, but not
I have the same problems for navigate with a lot of page like youtube google classroom and a lot of
I need one browser can let me navigate within any problem. I read that qupzilla and uc browser are very good
but i cant find them. Anyone knows where can i download or give me a link of them. Thanks!
UC Browser is an ancient Windows RT version, will be much worse than Edge.
QupZilla is an ancient browser that no longer even exists and was turned into Falkon, the Windows RT port can't do https either so you're stuck being unable to access like 90% of the internet.
The trick is to use Windows 10 and play around with the hidden Edge settings like enabling web pages to use as much RAM as they want. Also it's recommended to use store apps wherever you can instead, for example use MyTube for YouTube, LikeBook for Facebook, etc.
And if there's no app already made for the site you want to access you can use PAWA or AllPWA to create a sort of PWA of it, it'll still run as a web page but performance is much better than in Edge with the added bonus of being able to set an user agent and access sites that block old Edge versions.
And for better performance remember to restrict running in background for apps that you don't explicitly need to do that (so apps you don't need to get notifications from) AND use game mode for an extra boost as well, also disable any unnecessary service like Windows Defender, search indexing, etc.
Ranomez said:
UC Browser is an ancient Windows RT version, will be much worse than Edge.
QupZilla is an ancient browser that no longer even exists and was turned into Falkon, the Windows RT port can't do https either so you're stuck being unable to access like 90% of the internet.
The trick is to use Windows 10 and play around with the hidden Edge settings like enabling web pages to use as much RAM as they want. Also it's recommended to use store apps wherever you can instead, for example use MyTube for YouTube, LikeBook for Facebook, etc.
And if there's no app already made for the site you want to access you can use PAWA or AllPWA to create a sort of PWA of it, it'll still run as a web page but performance is much better than in Edge with the added bonus of being able to set an user agent and access sites that block old Edge versions.
And for better performance remember to restrict running in background for apps that you don't explicitly need to do that (so apps you don't need to get notifications from) AND use game mode for an extra boost as well, also disable any unnecessary service like Windows Defender, search indexing, etc.
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hi
thank you for your advice.
i install allpwa and pawa , but none of them add tile to my surface 2 10 arm start menu
and i still searching for a way to use web.whatsapp.
hamed7ir said:
hi
thank you for your advice.
i install allpwa and pawa , but none of them add tile to my surface 2 10 arm start menu
and i still searching for a way to use web.whatsapp.
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Did you grant it permission to add tiles on first add?
I personally tried on 3 tablets and there's a lot of users using them also without issues so you may be doing something wrong. Also remember the tiles side of the start menu scrolls separate from the apps side.
WhatsApp web worked perfectly with a Firefox UA in AllPWA last time I tried.