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What do you thing about Skyfire?
I think its really faster with loading an entire page, but if you want to browse fast and have a bad connecting its bad.
On Opera you could stop loadíng a page if you see what you want to see...this is impossible on skyfire...this really sucks...
Altoutgh scrolling on large pages them to be much smoother on Opera...
Mhm what do you think?
Ill keep testing them
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Jonas
I like them both! I love the SkyFire default page, that integrates my gmail, facebook, twitter and RSS feeds in one timeline. I also appreciate that flash works properly.
One thing I struggle with is that, as SkyFire renders the page for a desktop PC then pumps it to the phone, often the text columns are too wide to view, even when zoomed out fully. For pages like these, Opera is best.
I think that most advanced users will want to install both browsers. On my PC, I have chrome and firefox, depending on what I'm doing. Same thing for my phone I guess.
Non-advanced users? Well, what are you doing on XDA-Devs?
I really like both.
Skyfire love the home page with Gmail and other feeds. Also flash works. However I wish they'de sort out the scrolling, and zooming.
If it scrolled smother / faster and zoomed better it'd be my browser of choice.
As a result I mainly use Opera, but do use both. I'm certainly keen to keep an eye on updates from both.
To be honest, one needs all three browsers: IE, Opera and Skyfire.
Here's my break down:
- Opera is first choice for regular browsing. Loads fast and renders pages in the most intuitive way for mobile device. Most eye candy on web pages is also well rendered (except for video)
- Skyfire. I don't like the interface and I one is constantly scouring the page to find what one is looking for.
However, it is the BEST browser to browse feature rich pages and pages with video such as Youtube.
- IE. So what do I use IE for?? 1) Sometimes when in hotels with a complementary WiFi connection, you have to log in and the provider somehow only recognises the IE browser. 2) My Favorites are linked to IE. e.g when getting in my car the first thing I do is check for speed traps. I have linked a hardware button to a list of my favorites. Being in the car (and probably already driving.......) I don't want to fiddle around with the screen, zooming in etc. In IE you can fix the zoom level and therefore get an instant overview of the info that matters without major distraction.
Hope this helps people.
Y i agree with you, one more thing to add with IE, only one that support certificates. So using my online BANK service for example so i can jut transfer money anywhere directly from my mobile phone
I just wish the three browsers could combine into a super browser... I love the feeds on the homepage of Skyfire, however navigating through menus is slooooow whereas on Opera once you touch it, it loads the menu (for bookmarks, history, settings, etc.). Also the flash working on Skyfire is a huge plus, but scrolling and zooming is terrible. Opera Mobile 10 Beta has the best scrolling/zooming I've experienced. Opera Mobile 9 isn't as smooth but better than Skyfire. The advantages of IE of couse as others have stated, compatibility reasons... I normally use Opera, but sometimes I switch over to Skyfire, but end up being annoyed at how slow menus work, and go back to Opera. If I had to stick with one I'd say Opera 10 Beta has been the best for me. Even allowed me to use the facebook chat feature within the browser which I can never get to run smooth in Skyfire.
I quite like Skyfire, although you have to wait until the whole page has been rendered & then sent to you. So it's a bit slow in that respect. But it always renders a page as you'd see on your PC - Opera does not always do that, to my annoyance.
What I CANNOT understand is why Skyfire takes so long to open up the favourites page (it's on the phone, right? - or is it??)
I do most of my browsing on Opera (9.7), but occasionally use Iris...
When looking for my first android phone, I kept reading how documents to go was the best office app for android.
I've never even heard of the Thinkfree Office app that comes with the SGS. So, does anyone have any experience as to which one is better?
Think Free Office is the only productivity suite i've ever used on any android.
I think I wont move away from that suite that easily because I feel its the best suite ever created.
I have tried and tested DOC/PDF/XLS files and the experience was awesome! 10/10!
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-qo-android-am3-jjzxj.aspx
This looks like a contender for sure!
Thinkfree office has been really good in my limited use. I can't imagine documents to go being much better
Thinkfree is the fastest pdf viewer (faster than the Adobe one, with better reflow), and the xls viewer is also the best I've seen (it can work with recursive iterations within formulas, which quickoffice cannot).
Nice to have it thanks to the SGS...
In purchasing my SGS, ThinkFree has been perhaps the biggest (nice) surprise. In viewing word docs alone it displays all text, fonts, bold, margins tabs etc etc very well. can view & save in docx file types & the degree of editing caperbilities I've found to be very thorough.
Still can't beleive this program comes free with the phone. It really is excellent. Haven't fully tried excell or powerpoint docs yet but certainly the word is second to none.
I tried out some of the other office apps yesterday (documents to go, quickoffice etc), but came away with the impression that thinkfree was still the most functional and well rounded of the lot.
Much kudos to samsung and thinkfree for providing this app to us!!!
EDIT: Actually, I just tried quickoffice 3. I'd say it's pretty much on par with thinkfree, except thinkfree can edit ppt and quickoffice can't afaik.
hey, why is it when i zoom pdf files, the texts are blur
before it's finished the progress, the texts were fine but when the progress was done, it's blur.
ps: it's only happen when i'm viewing a map pdf files, (adobe reader in pc works well but not in thinkfree)
Slightly off topic, but is it possible to have 'talk and type' style input on any of the office apps?
It would be cool to work on documents on the go without typing.
thinkfree office is more than enough for regular use..
Does anybody else have the same problem while reading PDF in Reading view that letters are really small even at the highest zoom level (100%) ?
For reading PDF Files i think Adobe Reader is much better than ThinkFree Office. In Adobe reader i can easely open a Map with 76MB and scroll and zoom very fast. ThinkFree Office takes about 2 minutes just to open the File and even in this case it´s almost impossible to scroll or zoom in the map.
For Office Documents it´s very fast and stable but for reading big PDF Files i recommend Adobe Reader.
Am I the only one who is greatly disappointed by this application?
Apart from the simple fact that the pdf viewer clears the viewed pages out of the memory even when just scrolling down a bit, or the fact that the pdf viewer is awfully slow and just doesn't load all pages (on my end it just loads one or two visible pages and lags when scrolling to a non-loaded one), it takes an awful long time to start the different components.
Also, copy and paste function was made as difficult as possible, I still find myself unable to select and copy the text on my own rather than picking one of the "selection presets", which take a few too many clicks to reach for my taste....
And maybe it's just me, but the powerpoint editor completely kills my slide layout. On windows mobile I didn't have so extremely wrong renderings.
Another quite stupid limitation is the lack of different file formats to save inside the word app (only docx, seriously?!).
This app really makes me wish my old Touch Pro2 wasn't broken...
About comparisons... I still wait for documents to go 3.0 to release.
Edit: granted, things like bad pdf reader go certainly for all pdf readers out there atm.
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Mahagon Coral said:
Am I the only one who is greatly disappointed by this application?
Apart from the simple fact that the pdf viewer clears the viewed pages out of the memory even when just scrolling down a bit, or the fact that the pdf viewer is awfully slow and just doesn't load all pages (on my end it just loads one or two visible pages and lags when scrolling to a non-loaded one), it takes an awful long time to start the different components.
Also, copy and paste function was made as difficult as possible, I still find myself unable to select and copy the text on my own rather than picking one of the "selection presets", which take a few too many clicks to reach for my taste....
And maybe it's just me, but the powerpoint editor completely kills my slide layout. On windows mobile I didn't have so extremely wrong renderings.
Another quite stupid limitation is the lack of different file formats to save inside the word app (only docx, seriously?!).
This app really makes me wish my old Touch Pro2 wasn't broken...
About comparisons... I still wait for documents to go 3.0 to release.
Edit: granted, things like bad pdf reader go certainly for all pdf readers out there atm.
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I don't think Documents to Go 3 will be released any time soon as the company has been sold to I think RIM for their blackberries
Problems with Thinkfree Office
Hi,
Thinkfree office looks great in the begining. but there are some basic issues I dont know where I am going wrong:
1. Throws exception when trying to open a password protected docx
2. Sometimes fails to open attachment files which opens perfectly on my laptop
Anybody knows something about it?
Does ThinkFree support pinch zoom and text reflow on the Desire? I have tested it on a Galaxy and it works AOK but I have heard that some apps work differently on some phones, and I just want to make sure that it works the same way on the Desire before I buy one.
Thanks all!
Hi!
I had a "classic" android ROM, and it had ThinkFree office application.
I installed a new Rom (InDroid 5.1), and it has no TF O.
Can anybody give me a link, where I can find it? I read two books with the help of TF O, and reading is much more difficult with Adobe reader, or Polaris office.
Thanks all!
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alexius96 said:
Hi!
I had a "classic" android ROM, and it had ThinkFree office application.
I installed a new Rom (InDroid 5.1), and it has no TF O.
Can anybody give me a link, where I can find it? I read two books with the help of TF O, and reading is much more difficult with Adobe reader, or Polaris office.
Thanks all!
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Can you not simply re-download the app from Market?
I think ezPdfReader is faster.
y'all need to get birdsong for wp7. This is definitely the most complete twitter app to date.
1. Cache's your timeline so jumping back into twitter is quick.
2. Opens links in its own dedicated browser, so getting back into the app by pressing the back button is instant. The browser is nice, supports pinch to zoom, smooth scrolling, like IE without the address bar. You can open in IE as well but all links I have tested have worked very well.
3. Integrated twit pics, opens them right up in the app.
4. landscape support
5. threaded messaging, which can be useful if you carry on convo's on twitter.
6. Posting pics is as easy as starting a tweet then clicking on the camera soft button at the bottom. Pops it right in very quickly.
So far the only drawback I have heard of is that it doesn't geotag your pics/tweets, but I've never used that anyways. From what I've heard, great way for creeps to be able to know where you are (and where you aren't).
Great video here:
http://wpcentral.com/new-twitter-app-birdsong-first-look-video
I think beezz and seismic might be going away from my phone.
edit: found a little trick if you are towards the bottom of your timeline, tapping "home" at the top ("home" Mentions" "Messages"), brings you back to the top.
just downloaded this app, very nice,
I wish we had a twitter app for wp7 that would remember your place on the timeline, the good ones for iphone and android have that option
for example, if I don't check twitter for a day, when I check it I have 100+ new tweets, but the app starts at the top, with the newest tweet, and the only way to read them in order from oldest to newest is to guess where the spot is and scroll down down down
btw if you hit "home" it will take you to the top of the timeline
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just downloaded this app, very nice,
I wish we had a twitter app for wp7 that would remember your place on the timeline, the good ones for iphone and android have that option
for example, if I don't check twitter for a day, when I check it I have 100+ new tweets, but the app starts at the top, with the newest tweet, and the only way to read them in order from oldest to newest is to guess where the spot is and scroll down down down
btw if you hit "home" it will take you to the top of the timeline
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yeah, I just added that to my first post.
I've complained about the timeline thing for a while now. I don't think any of the winmo twitter apps did that as well. Now it just needs live tile integration.
I prefer original Twitter. Has everything needed and actually shows more on screen at once.
It's a nice twitter app and I bought it but list scrolling performance can get really bad at times but it's still better than the others I've tried so far.
doministry said:
I prefer original Twitter. Has everything needed and actually shows more on screen at once.
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Prefer the original too, plus it's confirmed to be working very fast with the upcoming WP7 update.
Peew971 said:
Prefer the original too, plus it's confirmed to be working very fast with the upcoming WP7 update.
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Nice to know!
If you must get Birdsong, it got a temporary massive cut price (£0.79 in the UK). I got it as an alternative to the official app just because their next update will include notifications but Twitter remains my favourite so far.
PS: moTweets is out and rubbish. Too bad, that was my favourite twitter app on winmo.
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I wish we had a twitter app for wp7 that would remember your place on the timeline, the good ones for iphone and android have that option
for example, if I don't check twitter for a day, when I check it I have 100+ new tweets, but the app starts at the top, with the newest tweet, and the only way to read them in order from oldest to newest is to guess where the spot is and scroll down down down
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rowi does that. Try rowi, it's an awesome, no-frills Twitter app that just gets straight to the point with a pure Metro UI.
Tried Birdsong, and while it certainly has potential, its very slow to load tweets into the timeline, performance can dive sometimes for no reason, and that timeline counter along the top of the screen just looks really out of place and doesn't match the interface or the Metro UI.
I really wish they'd fix the official Twitter application. It definitely has potential to be awesome as well. Till then, rowi is my Twitter application.
Peew971 said:
PS: moTweets is out and rubbish. Too bad, that was my favourite twitter app on winmo.
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Yeah, I loved moTweets on WinMo. Just checked it out here, and its terrible and ugly. It's got some good ideas and potential, but my god it looks like they tried to bring the WinMo look to WP7, which means they have totally missed the point of WP7 and Metro.
It'll be Beezz for me until any of the other clients get push live tile updates. At that time, I'll rate the features and compare.
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It'll be Beezz for me until any of the other clients get push live tile updates. At that time, I'll rate the features and compare.
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Beezz's live tile updates don't work, nor does its toast notifications.
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Beezz's live tile updates don't work, nor does its toast notifications.
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It works for me. It sometimes stops working, but if you just log out and log back in it starts working again.
The only good WP7 apps that exist are:
1. Games
2. Apps that do not require vertical list scrolling
List scrolling is so bad, that I think WP7 devices should come with Epilepsy warnings. That's how bad it is.
Lists stall, jump, you end up selecting items you never wanted to select, etc.
Also, the Horizontal scrollign needs a threshold to trigger pane switches. If you tap up to scroll up a bit in a list and your finger moves from side to side, it can trigger horizontal pane switches and in some applications that means you lose your place in a list. That's terrible.
I brought BirdSong because it was cheap (0.99). Seesmic's UI is terrible. I don't want to have to tab an icon to go to Twitter. I want an option to take me there automatically. The official Twitter app has terrible performance and poor reaction to taps. Sometimes you have to tap on a link 3-4 times to get it to register - that may just be the application lagging like hell, though...
I prefer the Official App to BirdSong, but at the moment BirdSong outperforms it and is alreasy talking about adding Live Tiles in the next release. Facebook and twitter seem to be extremely slow adding features to their Official Apps unless you're talking about the iOS version.
I've already uninstalled 90% of the third party apps on my phone due to performing issues (list scrolling, painfully slow resuming, Live Tiles that don't work, Ads at the top of the screen - destroying the Metra Look and Feel of the App [And adds on the top on one screen, and on the bottom on the other to try to make you misclick them... i.e. AlphaJax]).
The Marketplace app freezes and crashes all the time, making you have to reboot the entire phone for it to work correctly.
The stock apps perform well, but that probably has a lot to do with Microsoft using Native Code Interop to maximize performance. Third Party applications 85% of the time have performance issues.
Oh, and Board Express... The slowest app I've ever used on any mobile platform. Wish I hadn't paid for that piece of ****.
But on topic... Yes, Birdsong is a good Twitter client. I think the Official Twitter client looks better, but the performance gains using birdsong (Raw Speed, Cached Tweets, Integrated browser so no constant resuming when viewing links, integrated picture viewer) far outweight the deficit.
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The only good WP7 apps that exist are:
1. Games
2. Apps that do not require vertical list scrolling
List scrolling is so bad, that I think WP7 devices should come with Epilepsy warnings. That's how bad it is.
Lists stall, jump, you end up selecting items you never wanted to select, etc.
Also, the Horizontal scrollign needs a threshold to trigger pane switches. If you tap up to scroll up a bit in a list and your finger moves from side to side, it can trigger horizontal pane switches and in some applications that means you lose your place in a list. That's terrible.
I brought BirdSong because it was cheap (0.99). Seesmic's UI is terrible. I don't want to have to tab an icon to go to Twitter. I want an option to take me there automatically. The official Twitter app has terrible performance and poor reaction to taps. Sometimes you have to tap on a link 3-4 times to get it to register - that may just be the application lagging like hell, though...
I prefer the Official App to BirdSong, but at the moment BirdSong outperforms it and is alreasy talking about adding Live Tiles in the next release. Facebook and twitter seem to be extremely slow adding features to their Official Apps unless you're talking about the iOS version.
I've already uninstalled 90% of the third party apps on my phone due to performing issues (list scrolling, painfully slow resuming, Live Tiles that don't work, Ads at the top of the screen - destroying the Metra Look and Feel of the App [And adds on the top on one screen, and on the bottom on the other to try to make you misclick them... i.e. AlphaJax]).
The Marketplace app freezes and crashes all the time, making you have to reboot the entire phone for it to work correctly.
The stock apps perform well, but that probably has a lot to do with Microsoft using Native Code Interop to maximize performance. Third Party applications 85% of the time have performance issues.
Oh, and Board Express... The slowest app I've ever used on any mobile platform. Wish I hadn't paid for that piece of ****.
But on topic... Yes, Birdsong is a good Twitter client. I think the Official Twitter client looks better, but the performance gains using birdsong (Raw Speed, Cached Tweets, Integrated browser so no constant resuming when viewing links, integrated picture viewer) far outweight the deficit.
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Why are you complaining about scrolling issues here on a Birdsong thread? I have a TMOUS HD7 and have not experienced 1 of the issues you're complaining about. Why don't you just sell your HD7 if you really believe there's nothing good about it other than games? iOS and Android have more games, much of the same games, etc.
Every time I see your username in a thread I'm prepared to read a bunch of complaining. How old are you?
I've bought the latest version from the market, enabled push & tile notification but nothing is working ... am I the only one ?
Read 'Hey Microsoft, what’s up with those Live Tiles?' here:
http://mobilitydigest.com/hey-microsoft-whats-up-with-those-live-tiles/
Sjuust said:
Read 'Hey Microsoft, what’s up with those Live Tiles?' here:
http://mobilitydigest.com/hey-microsoft-whats-up-with-those-live-tiles/
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Thx but I've alread read that article.. endpoints it's not my problem, beacuse other apps tiles are working... birdsong doesn't...
Prefer Motweets pro,I bought it when the price is low.I think it is the twitter app with most features currently.
However,got birdsong free trial in my device too,just seldom use it,because I can't see all the Nearby tweets or locating the people i following.
Furthermore,I found out that some major issues with all current twitter apps in the marketplace.
firstly,when exiting from the built-in browser will bring you into blank screen for at least 2 second.
second,it'll randomly crash, if you scroll through pages when it is loading app.
not sure why these problems occur,maybe it is due to the WP7 developer tool.
I use motweets, birdsong & tweetcaster.. but overall I prefer birdsong with motweets as #2
is there a fix already for birdsong crash when clicking links in mango b2?
I've tried every android browser out there and safari on the ipad, and none are as fast, feature packed or polished as Xscope 6
click here to try it http://x-labs.net/?page_id=18
XScope is pretty awesome. Dolphin (HD / Mini) are up there with it too though. I had some troubles with certain Flash sites and didn't like the way XScope let you zoom out as far as you wanted. I prefer the browser to stop zooming out at a certain point.
I also really liked how Dolphin HD had the side-bar features which work really well on a tablet. You can just drag the page to the right and the bookmark bar will show up letting you quickly jump to a new page. More than anything, I'm really looking forward to Honeycomb's new browser... it sounds like it should have most of the great features I'm looking for in a browser and it looks good (XScope and Dolphin don't really blend in well visually).
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XScope is pretty awesome. Dolphin (HD / Mini) are up there with it too though. I had some troubles with certain Flash sites and didn't like the way XScope let you zoom out as far as you wanted. I prefer the browser to stop zooming out at a certain point.
I also really liked how Dolphin HD had the side-bar features which work really well on a tablet. You can just drag the page to the right and the bookmark bar will show up letting you quickly jump to a new page. More than anything, I'm really looking forward to Honeycomb's new browser... it sounds like it should have most of the great features I'm looking for in a browser and it looks good (XScope and Dolphin don't really blend in well visually).
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This is what I was wondering. Whether any current browser looks like it belongs on a device that size.
There's one thing in xscope you should try that second to none. Text copying. Just long press the menu key will in xscope and tap select text. I wish android did this natively.
Hi guys
Just wondering who had given the new Firefox release a whirl on their HOX.
Ideally wanted to get your comments on the usability end- I know the stats seem to blow other things out the water.
So chiefly:
*User interface with regards to tabs, menus, labels
*Rendering of text and images (speed/quality)
*Ability to reflow text, if at all
*Memory/GPU usage
I'm a big fan of the stock browser because I use the "Readability" option a lot. Double-tap to fit text to the screen isn't such a bad thing either.
Cheers
Install it and have a go? Probably could've done it by the time you'd written this post!
I use Chrome purely as it syncs my bookmarks with my other PCs
I personally use Dolphin Browser HD it's excellent but will give this a shot and see how it compares.
I did like Dolphin cause it has an exit button but prefer the sync options in Chrome
I saw that coming
Cheers guys - I expected everyone to tell me to try it for myself but I wanted to gauge how users felt.
Using it now and yeah, it's incredibly snappy but Sense browser seems to fit my usage better.
Gave it a quick try, the only thing I dislike it has no native full screen mode I like browsing in full screen mode and the add on sucks, as in you have to exit out of it each time you want to change URL. But speed seems fine.
Oh, also hate the text rendering as always in firefox. Sure this can be changed within the about configs.
maxthon browser and Chrome for me firefox blahhh:silly:
The new Firefox browser renders pages at 39.6 fps..chrome comes second with 21 fps n stock browser at 19 fps..
Sent from my Stunning White HTC One X
Using Opera myself, but may give this ago as like firefox on the old lappy
The new Firefox 14 definitely the best competitor for chrome..