http://majorgeeks.com/story.php?id=38037
All adblocking apps have been removed officially by Google.
I'm honestly surprised that it didn't happen sooner. Ad revenue taken from developers causes developers to cease development of apps because they aren't making any money at all. Let's face it, most of us don't buy apps. I get ad supported apps and Amazon's free app of the day. I have bought maybe 5 apps since I got the Hero when it came out...
^^ agreed ^^ it's their app their choice. You're choice to use it or not. Sucks but the way it is.
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That does suck. That was the biggest reason I rooted half of my phones...:crying:
I buy most of the apps I use. But it's just a hosts file.
Like most others here, if I don't want ads I buy the app. Devs survive on ad revenue with their free apps. I'm not trying to step on any toes, I'm no saint either, but it's not the least bit surprising that a company who gets a lot of it's money through ad revenue removed ad-blocking apps from it's marketplace. Couple bucks gets you an ad free app usually and keeps food on the dev's tables.
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Like most others here, if I don't want ads I buy the app. Devs survive on ad revenue with their free apps. I'm not trying to step on any toes, I'm no saint either, but it's not the least bit surprising that a company who gets a lot of it's money through ad revenue removed ad-blocking apps from it's marketplace. Couple bucks gets you an ad free app usually and keeps food on the dev's tables.
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I usually buy the paid apps as well, but there are free apps that don't have the option to pay to remove ads. That's where my adaway comes in. Anyway I'm sure you'll be able to find these apps on the Internet so no reason to worry
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If it's gonna make more devs, company create more apps/games for the android market then why not. I think little by little they will try to emulate the apple store with limitations and more restrictions . but like dude above me said just get the free app elsewhere, kinda the same deal with flash no biggie.
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I support apps that are worth the money, like ROM ToolBox, Carbon Backup, Nova (and not all of these even have ads) but some free ads have no pro alternatives. I'm pro for developers making money...but if a user wants to block ads, that's their choice to do so on their OPEN-SOURCE OS lol. It's not a huge problem for people like us who can simply just load the .apk up or insert a modified hostfiles..but it looks if it was an "Appleish" move and that's the main reason I'm disappointed. If anyone gets what I mean by that. Regardless, since this had to happen, hopefully the developers make more money through ads and better apps can be developed and funded for? (Just a positive insight)
TL;DR : Google shouldn't have removed apps that didn't infringe on copyrights, but some developers still offer their apps unofficially thankfully. And we should now see devs being supported more!
Yeah I know what you mean, it's open source but do you expect to be so open the more successful android becomes. That's why Google wants to get rid of removable batteries and sd cards, they essentially want to control more of what you can do with a phone. people love android because you have options that's why it's so successful unlike apple so who knows what will happen in the future.
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I also buy the apps I really like. If i use that app on occasion then i dont mind the ads, as long as they are the banners at the bottom or something, and dont just pop up in full screen when im trying to do something. Those apps that do that, i usually delete and just find an alternative app.
Some ads are intrusive especially the ones that spam your status bar with notifications about making your junk bigger. Not all apps have donate versions either as others have mentioned.
I don't know why this is upsetting it's not like ad blocking apps are going away... remember on Android we can install apps not in the play store
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Some ads are intrusive especially the ones that spam your status bar with notifications about making your junk bigger. Not all apps have donate versions either as others have mentioned.
I don't know why this is upsetting it's not like ad blocking apps are going away... remember on Android we can install apps not in the play store
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Indeed. It just feels as if Google is going towards Apples iron fist way of running things. No external sd card in the Nexus 4 and no removable battery as mentioned above? Apple phones also fill that criteria. Only time will tell to see if they become truly brazen.
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I usually buy the paid apps as well, but there are free apps that don't have the option to pay to remove ads. That's where my adaway comes in. Anyway I'm sure you'll be able to find these apps on the Internet so no reason to worry
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Exactly my reason. If an app is worthy I have no problem shelling out a few bucks for it. It's just the occasional free apps that just straight up comes with ads. No paid versions.
Well i have bought 97% of my apps so for me it's no big deal what i don't like is that my payed apps come with ingame purchase.
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I think the move sucks but honestly I'm not surprised
I assume most of the apps that got pulled are going to be online pretty soon.
http://adblockplus.org/en/android-about
I personally never removed ads anyways. The devs put a lot of time and effort into these and if I'm too cheap to pay for it, I can deal with the ads.
BTW 95% of my apps have been purchased if they have a pro/paid version.
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If I can't afford the paid version (still haven't gotten around to justifying some of them to myself) then letting them get money from someone else is the least I can do.
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Yeah I know what you mean, it's open source but do you expect to be so open the more successful android becomes. That's why Google wants to get rid of removable batteries and sd cards, they essentially want to control more of what you can do with a phone. people love android because you have options that's why it's so successful unlike apple so who knows what will happen in the future.
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I don't think it's really about that kind of control. The battery issue is about cost (and I'd guess has a lot to do with the manufacturer they're working with and what they have available that they'll work with), and the sd card issue is about Google trying to push people to use Cloud services (some parts business and some parts probably genuinely thinking it's a good idea) and a dash of them not having a clue (I love Google, but the idea that the external sd is "confusing" to users is just silly - my mom didn't know hers existed until I told her - it didn't "confuse" her, it was just a non-issue).
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If I can't afford the paid version (still haven't gotten around to justifying some of them to myself) then letting them get money from someone else is the least I can do.
I don't think it's really about that kind of control. The battery issue is about cost (and I'd guess has a lot to do with the manufacturer they're working with and what they have available that they'll work with), and the sd card issue is about Google trying to push people to use Cloud services (some parts business and some parts probably genuinely thinking it's a good idea) and a dash of them not having a clue (I love Google, but the idea that the external sd is "confusing" to users is just silly - my mom didn't know hers existed until I told her - it didn't "confuse" her, it was just a non-issue).
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Once Google has a windows and Mac app like iTunes then they could do this cloud service crap, it's not time yet. They are always going to give a lame excuse but I'm happy not all manufacturers are carrying along.
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Is this app really a necessity? I found that after installing my battery life isn't like it was. Does it really drain ur battery?
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Its steals your info (phone habits etc) and will sell it to third party advertisers... there's a lot of shady info in the privacy policy (because its a free app).
If your worried about finding your lost phone get Where is My Droid, free app that can be triggered via txt msg.
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Its steals your info (phone habits etc) and will sell it to third party advertisers... there's a lot of shady info in the privacy policy (because its a free app).
If your worried about finding your lost phone get Where is My Droid, free app that can be triggered via txt msg.
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Dude where are you coming up with that info??? Aren't these folks revered for the service they offer? I haave been using them and have peace of mind knowing what it can do if needed, and as far as I know they are not a free app....thay are for those grandfathered in by their beta versions, but the new versions are paid.
Please let me know if I'm just a damn fool that drank the cool-aid!!!
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Dude where are you coming up with that info??? Aren't these folks revered for the service they offer? I haave been using them and have peace of mind knowing what it can do if needed, and as far as I know they are not a free app....thay are for those grandfathered in by their beta versions, but the new versions are paid.
Please let me know if I'm just a damn fool that drank the cool-aid!!!
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You're a damn fool! It is actually free in the market (just checked to confirm). I had installed it a few days ago and after playing with it for a little bit it wasn't just what I was looking for. It wasn't bad, just not everything I'm looking for.
i used that app on my tilt2 it was pretty nice, primarily the trace your phone from a computer and scream functions but its not absolutely necessary, now im using phonelocator pro pretty good app also
Serious Help here needed...I'm perplexed...GAME detected as "not paid for" removed?!
I use applanet often, and I have now, on several instances had my games removed, without me actually removing them, by my EVO 4g all on its own because the games were "detected as not being paid for from the Market" (googles android market)"... verbatim it says "Unfortunately we could not locate your purchase on the Android Market, please uninstall this one before purchasing another one".
Is there any clue as to what I need to do to stop this from happening again? My phone is rooted and has a custom ROM on it. (CM 7.0.3.1)
**and please, before you respond with, buy the app from the Android Market, I have no issues buying my apps/games... I simply prefer to try them out for a day or two first.
I appreciate your help.
Honestly, I don't think you're going to get any help here. Yes, I know 15 minutes is not a large amount of time to test out an app. But that's the way it is and I feel you (we) should go by that. A lot of hard work and time away from loved ones go into making these apps and they should benefit from it. Not saying I'm perfect, but remember the saying "you get what you pay for."
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I appreciate what you said, as I myself do some developing work in my spare time and have made ipa files for the ipad as well as iphone/ipod touch.... I am learning to do the same with apk files. Some apk files don't give you any minutes to test them out. I've donated to many people on here for their roms and I buy a great deal of apps from the app market as well as android market.... not everyone who uses applanet or any other source, doesn't purchase the apps in the end. I know I do. If not you don't get the updated, less problematic apps.
thanks for your input though.
Ive got this issue fixed.
If I knew how to remove this thread I would
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I appreciate what you said, as I myself do some developing work in my spare time and have made ipa files for the ipad as well as iphone/ipod touch.... I am learning to do the same with apk files. Some apk files don't give you any minutes to test them out. I've donated to many people on here for their roms and I buy a great deal of apps from the app market as well as android market.... not everyone who uses applanet or any other source, doesn't purchase the apps in the end. I know I do. If not you don't get the updated, less problematic apps.
thanks for your input though.
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I agree with you 100% I use applanet to fully try things out 24 to 48 hours tops.Then I go back and buy it from the Android market. Not everyone uses applanet for the wrong intentions. And I know its been said before but 15minutes is not enough time to test out an app.
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Recently I saw that apps are now discriminating against root users(not allowing download/play). Do you think if apps would universally start doing this, would it cut down piracy or just push more root users to download illegally?
I for one believe it will have the latter effect, what do you guys think of this?
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I think if ppl would just stop acting so self-entitled, and stopped stealing ****, this would not even be an issue... Unfortunately - the world is full of idiots.. Only takes a few to ruin a good thing for all of us.
Dankest said:
Recently I saw that apps are now discriminating against root users(not allowing download/play). Do you think if apps would universally start doing this, would it cut down piracy or just push more root users to download illegally?
I for one believe it will have the latter effect, what do you guys think of this?
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So what are some example apps that are denying access if your phone is determined to be rooted? I've never run into one, and I can't imagine any popular app would resort to something so easily worked around.
(the workaround: temporarily move/rename the 'su' binary out of the PATH to "hide" it, since that's the method almost all apps would use to detect if you're rooted.)
To install a pirated app is allow unknown sources...anyone can do it, idk why they are discriminating....
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So what are some example apps that are denying access if your phone is determined to be rooted? I've never run into one, and I can't imagine any popular app would resort to something so easily worked around.
(the workaround: temporarily move/rename the 'su' binary out of the PATH to "hide" it, since that's the method almost all apps would use to detect if you're rooted.)
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Look up chaos rings by a little company called square enix. Looks like they are trying to crack down on app piracy(maybe Cuz of ff3 pirates?).
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I could care less about that kind of stuff if companies want to do that then they don't deserve my business or anybody else's business for that matter. Then just watch how fast the companies change their ways when nobody is buying their products
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some people cant afford to buy certain apps, like a 99$ navigation map for example. There are many different points of views...
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some people cant afford to buy certain apps, like a 99$ navigation map for example. There are many different points of views...
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So ppl can afford $400 - $600 (retail) and $200-ish smartphones, $50 - $100 a month contracts... yet they can't afford a $0.99 app.... please... that's total bs.
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So ppl can afford $400 - $600 (retail) and $200-ish smartphones, $50 - $100 a month contracts... yet they can't afford a $0.99 app.... please... that's total bs.
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Well said... I set up my "online" credit card for Google Play at $100. Its been like over an year now, n I still have cash left in it... And not one pirated app on my phone. Most of the apps are like a $ or two... and they are more like 1 time buying with free updates for life (well, many of them).
All it takes is a $ or 2 for an you love... so what's the big deal when you are paying like $100 something each month to the cell phone service provider.
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some people cant afford to buy certain apps, like a 99$ navigation map for example. There are many different points of views...
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Think about what you just said.
"...stealing is justified because the person who wants to steal feels that they are unwilling to pay the cost for the item...there are many points of view..."
Yeah...and the entitlement mindset "you have something that I feel that I'm entitled to and I don't care if I do something that's wrong...all that matters is that I get it...."...that's a point of view.
I've never understood people who use this rationale....stealing is stealing no matter how you justify it to make yourself feel better while you are doing it.
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What's the threshold for stealing? If it were only $50 then it wouldn't be ok? $25? If you can't afford a new car you couldn't just go steal one and have it be ok. And everyone knows "You wouldn't download a car."
If I don't want to pay what it's offered for then I just do without. People should look into dropping their entitlement complex.
On another note, I don't buy into the whole "It's not available in my locale" argument. Maybe I just don't fully understand it being in the US. I've seen many ways to fool your phone/the market to seeing a new locale (for free), and most apps I've ever bought have a direct buy version anyway.
Doesn't say anywhere that you have to pay for the apps. Me downloading an apk isn't theft. The original copy is still left intact. Pirates raid ships and steal. They don't make copies.
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Doesn't say anywhere that you have to pay for the apps. Me downloading an apk isn't theft. The original copy is still left intact. Pirates raid ships and steal. They don't make copies.
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Really?
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Doesn't say anywhere that you have to pay for the apps. Me downloading an apk isn't theft. The original copy is still left intact. Pirates raid ships and steal. They don't make copies.
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If the app isn't offered for free by the developer and you obtain a copy without paying then you're stealing. If you want a warm fuzzy because you're stealing something that can be copied then go ahead and tell yourself that. You are still taking money out of the dev's pocket through theft.
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If the app isn't offered for free by the developer and you obtain a copy without paying then you're stealing. If you want a warm fuzzy because you're stealing something that can be copied then go ahead and tell yourself that. You are still taking money out of the dev's pocket through theft.
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This argument only stands if you intended to buy the app in the first place and if there weren't so many cases in which piracy increased sales rather than decreased them.
Of course, the opposite is true as well. There are a number of games out there where it was simply more prudent to pirate the game if you wanted to, you know, play it whenever you wanted (Cough, Ubisoft games, cough).
I understand that some people are morally outraged by piracy... but much like so many other things in life, not everyone is. I used to pirate like nobodies business.. but now that I make more money, I typically only pirate the game if I am unsure about it and it doesn't have a demo. If I like it, I go buy it. If not, I get rid of it. I also typically pirate games that have an obscenely restrictive DRM embedded... not because I want to play it but just because screw those guys for putting it in there. DRM increases piracy, not hinders it.
However, copyright infringement is not theft. It is not stealing. Nothing is removed from anywhere. No money is removed from the dev's pockets because it was never there in the first place. If the item couldn't be pirated, that person wouldn't magically have more money because a whole lot of the people that pirate do it because they can't afford it in the first place.
Not to mention, there are companies who don't consider piracy a bad thing: http://www.gamespot.com/news/angry-birds-dev-says-piracy-may-not-be-a-bad-thing-6349485
Not to mention all of these industries who are trying to fight piracy so hard are doing it in the utterly wrong way. People pirate movies? Ok, rather than make movies easy to obtain online and permanently owned just like a dvd copy... they make it abnormally difficult, with higher prices and restrictive licensing and DRM. They make movie ticket prices skyrocket. In short, they make it annoying as all hell to acquire a legitimate digital copy. On the flipside, you can go to google, type in the name of a movie (Say... I dunno, The Avengers), pull up a torrent site, hit download and bam, you now have a digital copy without drm you own.
Music is much the same way, though it is improving. It isn't a whole lot better but I have forsaken pirating music and simply listen to Pandora or Spotify.
TV shows are in the same bracket as movies. It would be so simply to, the night of or the day after showing a new episode, put it up for sale for a dollar or two for people to buy and own. Make it quick, cheap and simple and people will FLOCK to it. But they don't. So everyone just goes and watches Hulu or pirates it.
Games are a more unique sector. They have numerous methods of easily obtaining the games but these methods are getting more restrictive, with licensing and "If you piss us off, you lose everything you bought from us" rules. Origin does this, Steam... yeah, not a very good thing. Why spend all that time worrying about that if you only play single player? Just go pirate it, then nobody can take it from you, right? So we have easy methods of quickly obtaining games, but they keep adding on to their list of rules and restrictions. Steam is the best of the bunch and even they will remove all access to the hundreds to thousands of dollars of games you spent if you break a rule. Even they don't allow anything but arbitration suits. You know the times that most games make the largest amount of sales and profit on Steam? During the Summer Sale and Winter Sale. Dev's love those sales because sales skyrocket to the moon and beyond. Their profit skyrockets for a few weeks. These sales make it obvious what the problem is for a lot of people... money. Is it worth the money? Yeah... less games are these days than ever. Yay, $64.94 after tax for a new game... with 4 hours of gameplay! Awesome, I totally feel that was worth my money! I am definitely going to go buy Gears of War 2 now for another 4 hours of fun!
Is piracy wrong? According to society, yes. Is it even remotely as harmful as the corporations play it out to be? Not hardly.
Forbes:
"This is a negotiation where at any time, your customer could just go download the damn movie for free, and they’re doing you a favor by even considering picking it up legally. And you have the nerve to think it’s on YOUR terms? That’s not how negotiation works. It may not be right, but it’s reality, and they have to face it.
Yet movie companies threaten to put Netflix out of business by charging them huge amounts of money to have access to their content. Netflix is in the forefront of the war on piracy, and the studios don’t even seem to understand it. It’s incredible."
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And everyone knows "You wouldn't download a car."
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Yes. Yes I would. If I could, I most certainly would.
Everything in the world should be open source. Open source coding languages are being used to code these apps. For the most part. So why is it right for someone to charge money for something they built using free software? If I were a dev, I'd open up all my code to the community so we can all improve upon it.
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I used to pirate apps...when i was a dumb teenager with little money. Now, i buy ALL my apps, how hard is it to pay 0.99$ for most apps, or even 5$ for the most premium, you not only get regular updates and you also say thank you to the guy that spent time and money to bring you something cool. If people were not so lazy or had higher goals in life than working for a fast food or grocery store, maybe they'd didn't care to pay that little price. The only thing i still pirate is movies, and it's strictly for convenience because here in Canada, our Netflix sucks pretty bad, our video store rent movies for 1/4 of the price of buying it new, and i live a good 30 minutes away from the closest video store. So i have no choice to download if i want to see a movie. But i regularly go to the theaters.
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I used to pirate apps...when i was a dumb teenager with little money. Now, i buy ALL my apps, how hard is it to pay 0.99$ for most apps, or even 5$ for the most premium, you not only get regular updates and you also say thank you to the guy that spent time and money to bring you something cool. If people were not so lazy or had higher goals in life than working for a fast food or grocery store, maybe they'd didn't care to pay that little price. The only thing i still pirate is movies, and it's strictly for convenience because here in Canada, our Netflix sucks pretty bad, our video store rent movies for 1/4 of the price of buying it new, and i live a good 30 minutes away from the closest video store. So i have no choice to download if i want to see a movie. But i regularly go to the theaters.
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You just said pirating is for dumb, broke teenagers. Yet, you pirate movies. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Whether you pirate a 99 cent app, or a $40 bluray, you're still a pirate.
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You just said pirating is for dumb, broke teenagers. Yet, you pirate movies. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Whether you pirate a 99 cent app, or a $40 bluray, you're still a pirate.
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I believe that he is saying that he would buy the movies if it wasn't such an inconvenience where he lives.
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whos using security software and why?
my brother got a N7 (his first android product) and he's all freaked out by the permissions some apps want. i explained that while they seem intrusive, most of them are just trying to access the necessary functions they need to run properly, not stealing your info to send elsewhere..
enlighten me.
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whos using security software and why?
my brother got a N7 (his first android product) and he's all freaked out by the permissions some apps want. i explained that while they seem intrusive, most of them are just trying to access the necessary functions they need to run properly, not stealing your info to send elsewhere..
enlighten me.
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Security is highly unecessary. As long as your downloading from a trusted source.. if the developer has terrible ratings and its only been downloaded 50 times.. and its some type of porn app.. its gunna be malware. Really just have to use common sense here. If hes seriously concerned or paranoid i would suggest using LBE Security Guard it will monitor the apps that request permissions to things and actively tell you what app is doing what. With Root it will let you remove permissions to certain apps, lets say you dont want angry birds to have access to the internet.. you can do that. It will also rid those stupid ads.
All in all IMO its not needed but if hes that paranoid... LBE will be the best bet. Oh and any type of Anti-Virus is a waste of space and RAM.. at least LBE is useful.
tell him to stop the Windows mentality.
tell him to be cautious with regard to the hyperbole fearmongering that the security industry puts out to scare people into giving them money.
tell him my favorite saying... "paranoia will destroia"
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Picked up my nexus today, and the shop assistant was trying his hardest to sell me norton for £30 told him to jog on lol
There is no need for anti virus unless your downloading lots of dodgy or cracked apk's
I use avast on my n7 just on the off chance but I'm confident what I download and the web pages I visit are safe.
Its better to have protection and not need it than not have protection and need it imo.
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Picked up my nexus today, and the shop assistant was trying his hardest to sell me norton for £30 told him to jog on lol
There is no need for anti virus unless your downloading lots of dodgy or cracked apk's
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Holy cow.. I thought I was reading satire for a second so I ran to the Play Store and searched for Norton.. IT'S REAL. EL-OH-EL.. WOW and 46k people gave it 5 *'s.. *SMH*.... I laughed when I saw Avast and saw it needs root access to install some firewall crap.. Ironic much???
Anyway.. Yeah.. Security on a phone is really unnecessary. If you are dumb enough to download digital snake oil then you deserve a hard lesson in watching what you download.. Most of the scammy stuff is so blatantly obvious.
I used to use Lookout Mobile Security but then I was like..... no. They're all RAM hogs, and unless you know what you're downloading (I do) then it's a complete waste.
Some malware has made it into the Play store...but I generally only download well known apps from reliable vendors.
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Bitdefender use it n my PC / Phone aswell
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This is a big deal for me, if we never receive root.
Let the discussion start.
http://bgr.com/2014/10/29/android-5-0-lollipop-feature/
OK, so this is pretty exciting information, i just hope this isnt something the carriers can disable in some way.
That being said, I do see one major downfall and that is, IMO, this might cause carriers to push the update slower, or even omit some devices that would normally get updated to make sure their apps are getting used on as many devices as possible.
Cant wait!!!
If true, it's a game changer. But why do I get the feeling carriers will still find a way to install crapware/bloatware that we can't remove.
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If true, it's a game changer. But why do I get the feeling carriers will still find a way to install crapware/bloatware that we can't remove.
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OK, so this is pretty exciting information, i just hope this isnt something the carriers can disable in some way.
That being said, I do see one major downfall and that is, IMO, this might cause carriers to push the update slower, or even omit some devices that would normally get updated to make sure their apps are getting used on as many devices as possible.
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Indeed, I am skeptical....but if GOOGLE who makes ANDROID says it will be done. I believe it.
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This is a big deal for me, if we never receive root.
Let the discussion start.
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Damn, I agree! The main reason I wanted Root (well two reasons) was for bloatware removal/freeze, and for backing up apps/app data (especially games!)....Well now with most apps doing the cloud-save thing, if Lollipop really does allow us to remove both carrier AND oem bloatware, I won't be as desperate to Root....although IF Root ever comes to our ATT Note 4, I'll still Root, just won't be as desperately needed. I'd still like to put a custom ROM on my Note4 someday, but I can wait a year or so.....after I'm out of warranty
Lets look at this like the millions upon millions of people who own a smartphone and never, ever figure out even the basics on how to use it. You know the ones, the idiots who buy the iPhone for an outrageous price, and don't even know how to use text messaging. (My mother ... I sent her a picture while on vacation of her grand children, then when I got home she handed me her phone and said "What did you do to my phone, it now has this thing on it" and I had to show her the message!) We see it all the time. People who don't even know that there is a calculator, or how to set up their email, or how to do anything other than Candy Crush on it...
The carriers can do whatever they want to those phones. Those people (and I would bet you are looking at 90% or more of smartphone owners) don't know how to uninstall an app, or don't bother to try. You could make the boatware uninstallable and the vast majority of people would still have it, and never know the difference. Up until recently the only people taking off bloatware were people like us who found a way... Root hasn't been this hard for very long, so their bloatware install numbers won't change much if we can uninstall without root.
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lets look at this like the millions upon millions of people who own a smartphone and never, ever figure out even the basics on how to use it. You know the ones, the idiots who buy the iphone for an outrageous price, and don't even know how to use text messaging. (my mother ... I sent her a picture while on vacation of her grand children, then when i got home she handed me her phone and said "what did you do to my phone, it now has this thing on it" and i had to show her the message!) we see it all the time. People who don't even know that there is a calculator, or how to set up their email, or how to do anything other than candy crush on it...
The carriers can do whatever they want to those phones. Those people (and i would bet you are looking at 90% or more of smartphone owners) don't know how to uninstall an app, or don't bother to try. You could make the boatware uninstallable and the vast majority of people would still have it, and never know the difference. Up until recently the only people taking off bloatware were people like us who found a way... Root hasn't been this hard for very long, so their bloatware install numbers won't change much if we can uninstall without root.
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did you just call your mom stupid?
raiu said:
did you just call your mom stupid?
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Yes, for 2 reasons. Buying an iPhone and having absolutely no idea why she did it. I think people who are passionate about the iPhone an want one, more than anything else are delusional, but at least most of them can articulate why they want it, and many of them use it to its very limited potential. Then there is my mom, who got an iPhone because to her, thats was really the only phone they had at the store. Its falling for the advertising.
And the second reason... she released me into the wild to be a productive member of society... anyone with half a brain would have realized that it would be a key step in the collapse of modern civilization. :silly:
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Yes, for 2 reasons. Buying an iPhone and having absolutely no idea why she did it. I think people who are passionate about the iPhone an want one, more than anything else are delusional, but at least most of them can articulate why they want it, and many of them use it to its very limited potential. Then there is my mom, who got an iPhone because to her, thats was really the only phone they had at the store. Its falling for the advertising.
And the second reason... she released me into the wild to be a productive member of society... anyone with half a brain would have realized that it would be a key step in the collapse of modern civilization. :silly:
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lol, im glad my mom bought an s3. I am also glad they have apps that allow me to remotely log into her phone while shes on it and fix issues she has.
raiu said:
lol, im glad my mom bought an s3. I am also glad they have apps that allow me to remotely log into her phone while shes on it and fix issues she has.
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What app is this??? I have never heard of it, and it would be extremely useful for my parents.
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....so their bloatware install numbers won't change much if we can uninstall without root.
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I am not sure if you understand that we don't care about those other 90%...we care about our 10% who is smart enough to utilize what we own.
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What app is this??? I have never heard of it, and it would be extremely useful for my parents.
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Tell them to download this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teamviewer.quicksupport.market
Once that is installed they open it and leave it open, and you have to have this installed on a pc
http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index....TFrZF9HZKyUVHr6jEal4CROc1rOSRpZA_txoCWgXw_wcB
its totally free if you use it for personal use. You can see their device, transfer files, change settings. Its really cool!
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Tell them to download this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teamviewer.quicksupport.market
Once that is installed they open it and leave it open, and you have to have this installed on a pc
http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index....TFrZF9HZKyUVHr6jEal4CROc1rOSRpZA_txoCWgXw_wcB
its totally free if you use it for personal use. You can see their device, transfer files, change settings. Its really cool!
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OMG....awesome, thank you so much sir.
What's up with all the iPhone hate? Different strokes for different folks; no reason to bad mouth others for a difference in taste.
Well, seems the way around this is already out there. This will just continue to put these apps on like they currently do, and we still can't remove them. This will only be handy if they have their programs to be downloaded automatically from the play store.....which they probably won't, they'll keep them in the system.
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Well, seems the way around this is already out there. This will just continue to put these apps on like they currently do, and we still can't remove them. This will only be handy if they have their programs to be downloaded automatically from the play store.....which they probably won't, they'll keep them in the system.
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Any proof to this? Where are you getting this information from?
I hope this gives users the ability to remove these apps. Hell if Microsoft can pull it off so should Google. I have disabled over 20 apps on my AT&T Note 4 with the majority being carrier bloatware. Ridiculous.
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Any proof to this? Where are you getting this information from?
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...r-crapware-automatically-which-is-good-maybe/
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...r-crapware-automatically-which-is-good-maybe/
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This is only for phones that come with 5.0 on them. All phones upgraded from KitKat to 5.0 will not have this feature. Also these same updated phones will not have encryption as their default setting either.
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