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S3 to iphone 5 back to S3

Hello everyone, I'm just posting about my experience with the iphone 5. I bought a white one on the release date and put my trusty S3 in a drawer for a back up. We'll I didn't even last three days before I ran back to At&t and got my S3 reactivated. The iphone is nice and all that but it's too simple for my taste, I need to be able to do what I want when I want and I felt severely handicapped with the iphone 5. Not saying it's a bad phone but it's definitely not for me. Anyone else had a similar experience?
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Not too many Android users are willing to sink that kind of coin for a phone to simply try it out. Especially in this forum since we have the latest Samsung phone. Good to see you come back. I personally could never go back to Apple. Just sucks because I own a Apple TV and MacBook Pro. Apples ecosystem is great. Wish Google got with the times when it comes to cross platform support. More specifically I miss air play, ability to control all my home media with my phone etc.
And I know dlna/all cast is available but Google needs to implement something in their next OS that smokes Apples.
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I've done both android and iphone in the past. I got my wife the iPhone 5 and I do like it. I had the 4 and while it's not a huge leap in design and features the improvements are nice and it is a very smooth experience.
And for some reason it's wicked fast on the net. I like my sgs3 but don't see a fault with the iPhone 5. Phones are phones and each one brings something unique to a user
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I'm in the same boat as far as the Apple tv and macbook so I can understand where you're coming from. I might just keep it as a backup phone in case something happens to my S3...
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Not surprised that you came back to the S3
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still using the iphone 5. loving the stellar battery life.
might have to put up the s3 on ebay soon

expertzero1 said:
still using the iphone 5. loving the stellar battery life.
might have to put up the s3 on ebay soon
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Can you print to a mobile BT printer from it?

expertzero1 said:
still using the iphone 5. loving the stellar battery life.
might have to put up the s3 on ebay soon
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My wife is looking at the iPhone 5, she's worried about battery life though(she works about 10 hours a day with no way to charge her phone).
How has your battery life been so far?
Thanks

only thing i miss about iphone life is the all the accessories.
car integration, sound docs, .....
but, all that goes out the window with the new lighting adapter.

Android gv you more freedom
-a-

At least we know 5 millions new iphone 5 users disagree with you in this week alone
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don't know how anyone can argue that the iphone is not a good phone.
i like the S3 for the flexibility and total control over the phone that it allows.

I've been reading nothing but bad reviews from customers about the battery life of iphone 5. Yeah, all these main sites are comparing the battery life with the RAZOR MAXX but then in the comments section people are always complaining saying the claims aren't true.
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/09/20/iphone-5-battery-life-reviews/
I'm guessing the people having the short battery life are running the phone a lot with LTE.

TBayTom said:
I've been reading nothing but bad reviews from customers about the battery life of iphone 5. Yeah, all these main sites are comparing the battery life with the RAZOR MAXX but then in the comments section people are always complaining saying the claims aren't true.
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/09/20/iphone-5-battery-life-reviews/
I'm guessing the people having the short battery life are running the phone a lot with LTE.
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User error
I have an ATT gs3 and also the iphone 5 im testing out. The iphone 5 has amazing battery life. Was able to get 14 hours of standby and 9 hours 30 min of usage out of it yesterday with 21% remaining for the day. And its suppose to be the same battery life as the chip is the same one powering both.

yidan82 said:
Hello everyone, I'm just posting about my experience with the iphone 5. I bought a white one on the release date and put my trusty S3 in a drawer for a back up. We'll I didn't even last three days before I ran back to At&t and got my S3 reactivated. The iphone is nice and all that but it's too simple for my taste, I need to be able to do what I want when I want and I felt severely handicapped with the iphone 5. Not saying it's a bad phone but it's definitely not for me. Anyone else had a similar experience?
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Yes, sort of.
I switched to the GS3 from a 4S about three months ago. Took a bit of adjusting to say the least. I held on to the 4S for almost a month before I sold it, thinking it was enough to wean off of iOS. I now definitely prefer the S3 for general device usage, but I miss the many apps I'd purchased on the Apple app store for the past three years, so I started looking for deals on used 4S. On iPhone 5 launch day I bought a like new 4S from a guy who just upgraded to the 5, for half of what I sold my 4S for couple months back lol. Now I can switch between them as I please.
Other than some of the apps I'm missing, it's kind of hard to go back. I think Apple is too far in the simplicity end of the scale. Just an example, iPhone gives you ZERO ability to change anything on the camera, not even change to a lower resolution. S3, never mind that I can adjust things like metering method and ISO sensitivity, I can put those control shortcuts right on the screen.

yidan82 said:
Hello everyone, I'm just posting about my experience with the iphone 5. I bought a white one on the release date and put my trusty S3 in a drawer for a back up. We'll I didn't even last three days before I ran back to At&t and got my S3 reactivated. The iphone is nice and all that but it's too simple for my taste, I need to be able to do what I want when I want and I felt severely handicapped with the iphone 5. Not saying it's a bad phone but it's definitely not for me. Anyone else had a similar experience?
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Do you have an absolutely ridiculous amount of spare money or something?
You could have just given me $700 and I'd have told you the iPhone is poop.

The battery life is far from stellar and it still doesn't have widgets among other things I'm just not impressed with it.the new maps suck I had to create a new account for the App Store just to download YouTube and it forces you to add your credit card info before you can even download free apps ill never get of my s3 for the i5 it's just less of a phone IMHO
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aimetti said:
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I have an ATT gs3 and also the iphone 5 im testing out. The iphone 5 has amazing battery life. Was able to get 14 hours of standby and 9 hours 30 min of usage out of it yesterday with 21% remaining for the day. And its suppose to be the same battery life as the chip is the same one powering both.
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Sweet good to know, my gf is getting one once her contract is up. Galaxy S3 does a great job with battery life when you consider the much larger/brighter screen as well as the widgets and number of processes it has running compared to the iphone 5. I couldn't leave to switch to the iphone 5, way too many features lost and I'm spoiled with the bigger screen. iPhone 5 is marketed towards simplicity for the older generation transitioning to smart phones and people who don't like to mess around with their phone too much. Multitasking is absolutely terrible with the iphone, but the ios6 Siri is pretty cool I must say. Great improvement there.

I have both s3 and ip5. Been switching between them depending where I go because I don't have a case yet for the ip5 so I have been carefull with it. Both are great phones. My biggest complaint is you can't change the black background menus and white text on the s3. I almost throw my s3 at the pavement everytime I get a call outside in the daylight. I have to cover the screen with both hands just to see who is callng! With the ip5 I can see it easily even with sunglasses because it has white backgrounds and black text. Everyone talks about how customizable android phones are but this simple change to invert the color scheme is near impossible to do. Im just going to keep the s3 around to play with but the ip5 is going to be my daily driver.

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I have both s3 and ip5. Been switching between them depending where I go because I don't have a case yet for the ip5 so I have been carefull with it. Both are great phones. My biggest complaint is you can't change the black background menus and white text on the s3. I almost throw my s3 at the pavement everytime I get a call outside in the daylight. I have to cover the screen with both hands just to see who is callng! With the ip5 I can see it easily even with sunglasses because it has white backgrounds and black text. Everyone talks about how customizable android phones are but this simple change to invert the color scheme is near impossible to do. Im just going to keep the s3 around to play with but the ip5 is going to be my daily driver.
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Yeah, it's a little hard to read. If you have auto brightness enabled, it should make it a lot easier to read. As for white backgrounds, there's got to be a white theme out there you can apply to your GS3 to make it easier to read.

Impressions of the Optimus G (I switched from the Galaxy S3)

Okay, I've had the Optimus G (OG) for about a week now, and I can honestly say I enjoy it more than the GS3 I owned for a few months. I've lurked XDA a lot but figured I'd post this impressions thread in hopes of helping others out who are on the fence. I know I was definitely deciding between these 2 phones, and these kinds of posts really helped me.
Hardware and build quality are A LOT better. I've already had a few comments from strangers when they see me playing with my phone (case-less for now, eek).. asking "hey what phone is that?" or "that looks sleek"
It feels more premium in your hand and the sleek black with a touch of chrome makes it look a lot better than the cheap plastic of the GS3 in my opinion. The front/bezel is purely black (and by this, I mean when the screen's off, the entire front is pure black) and for whatever reason, it just looks sexy with the rest of the black phone. Also, it feels better in your hand... like you're holding something of quality.
Software-wise, I'll be honest I didn't go default with either phone. I love Nova Prime launcher for the gestures. (I set up double tap screen for opening camera, swipe down to bring up navigation is clutch when driving, amongst other gestures). I can say though, I've used the quickmemo A LOT more than I thought I would. It's nice to just pull it up to scribble down a quick note... I mean that's the only kind of notes that I take on my cell phone anyway. Then, you can store it in your picture gallery or your notepad app. I haven't used Qslide at all... especially because it doesn't work on YouTube and I don't watch movies on my cell phone.
Speaking of software, you will definitely notice how faster, quicker, and instant everything is on the OG. It's a snappy phone. I never thought the GS3 had lag, but after using the OG, you definitely notice it. I've tried to slow/lag it down... opening up navigation, youtube videos, browser, texting, etc at once and everything is just fluid. VERY impressed with the quad core snap dragon.
The screen is noticeably more vibrant. I'm never too picky on screens though.
I really don't have any gripes on the phone itself. My only concern is the lack of exposure it has. Not many cases or accessories if you're into that and not really that much buzz... considering everything this phone has inside.
Having said that, it kind of makes me feel like I have something special in my hands with this phone. It makes it more unique and luxurious... if that makes sense.
As long as it gets software support, I am extremely happy with my decision so far. The GS3 is popular, will have great product support, and lots of people have it... so it has that sense of community (as Apple does). But all of that stuff really doesn't mean much to me in owning a phone besides the product support.

After having this device for a couple of days i thought it was time to post my thoughts on it.
First off... build quality is amazing. Finally feels like I'm holding an expensive device. Was able to get a case for it at best buy the day i bought it. Put a zagg hd screen protector on it so my phone is protected. Sound quality is pretty good and the camera isn't bad once you change some settings.
Software is great too. Love the little things they did and love the layout. I too installed Nova Launcher after playing around with the stock one for a day. This phone is fast and cant wait for some aosp rom to come out or even better cyanogen mod (crossing fingers).
Gaming is amazing too. The Amazing Spiderman game from Gameloft runs with no lag whatsoever. 2Gbs of ram really help out and should be a standard on phones.
The screen is just awesome.
Battery life varies depending on what you are doing or what you use a phone for which is true for any device. I can easily go a full day and still have 50% percent left by turning off sync and data connection and only turning them on when i need to use them. When i play games the battery goes down fast too but im playing graphic intense games and usually am close to a charger when i do.
Playing movies looks awesome and the dolby mobile enhances the sound even more when headphones are used.
Overall this is my six android phone in three years and by far the best I've owned or touch (my wife has a galaxy s3 which i told her to get since she uses her phone as her primary camera). Def recommend it.
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What kind of settings did you change with the camera? I don't think it's all that bad, but am open to suggestions.
I have the default and the Camera Zoom FX app
Also, how do you take screenshots?

Take screenshots by using quickmemo. Just dont draw anything and hit the save icon. I'm not for sure what all i changed since i reset it to default. Just play around a bit you can reset camera to defaults in the camera settings
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I'm currently on the S3 and I've seen an RF sheet that shows the Optimus G has overall, the best signal strength out of any other device on Sprint. The issue is whether or not I can put up with the lack of development support. I know it's new and all but there's not much action as of yet. On the GS3, we had people upload ROMs before the phone was out!
Also - I just purchased a 32GB sd card that would be useless on the LG so I'm kind of at a stalemate. I'm just torn pretty much. I like the LG Optimus G's performance and UI (Samsung's stock UI is disgusting on Jellybean). Also the quad core would be nice. But I'm kind of a signal freak. I'm a big fan of s4gru and I literally drive to local towers on a week basis to check network vision progress lol. Biggest reason behind wanting an LG is the signal strength. In bestbuy, my phone had varied from -89-99dBm on EvDo while the LG Optimus held a steady -83-88dBm. This means the LG is more secure with holding onto a signal than the GS3 is and that is fact, according the to RF sheets provided by FCC documentation.
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(The higher the number, the better). The LG and Motorola Photon appear to be the best in terms of signal strength. Surprisingly, Samsung's GS3 is of the lowest!

I think if your on the fence about the microSD card. Consider this.
On my previous phone, I had a 64gb microsd card, which housed a large amount of my data-videos, ebooks, music, etc.
However, when I switched to this phone, and was transferring my data, I slowly realized that a lot of that data was useless. They were either books I previously read, songs that I didn't really listen to, so I then got a premium account on spotify, and videos that I should really just delete after I download.
All in all, I was capable of using only 10GB of my 32gb. And, I feel like I haven't missed a beat with storage. And this includes having a PSX emulator, Chrono trigger, and chaos rings on the device.
Also, the response time of apps opening is much faster when stored on main disk.
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Plus you have 50 gigs of air cloud too
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I came from GS3. So I also had 50gb Dropbox. And now with the OG I also have 50gb from box.Net
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T'was a holiday. Chill on the "lack of development".

MikeEx said:
T'was a holiday. Chill on the "lack of development".
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Also, it hasn't been that long till devs actually had source access+recovery. Can't develop and test very well without those. Or backup stuff...

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T'was a holiday. Chill on the "lack of development".
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I've decided to stick it out with galaxy s3 mostly due to expandable battery and SD card slot. Still very tempting though lg!
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So far very impressed coming from 3d, still no root, navigation of screens is a little difficult, but sure when root and dev kicks in this will not be problem.
Big plus for me is battery and most importantly signal. Tried HTC LTE on launch and signal worse on 3d, this is by far the best signal I have had on Sprints crappy. Network in Arizona. Speed and performance amazing, though awesome on 3d with custom kernel and tweaks with antutu at 8000ish, higher now of course with no tweaks.
Want to wait for quad core HTC or maybe Samsung, but need change and BestBuy price last few days $100 decided to try. Thinking will be keeping, next week will determine.
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I'm liking mine very much so far. What do you mean "No Root yet", I've ben rooted for 4 or 5 days now atleast. Anyways it's a shame I have to keep his sexy sleek thing in a case just to keep me from going crazy thinking somethng will happen. I just hope they are willing to develop the software that'll push the 13mp lens to its fullest potential, far better than my Evo3D was but I see room for improvement still. Fast fast fast...just the way I like em, even without tweaks this thing is fast enough for me. Just with root alone I'm happy running my apps like WifiTether, don't need it any faster so I probaby won't run anything custom yet when it comes out. Overall very happy, was wanting an HTC quad core but not willing t wait till next spring so here I am with an LG-OG in my hands

Too late to get the Note 2?

There's no doubt the Note II is an extraordinary phone, well known for its battery life and large screen.
Is it too late to get the Note 2 or should I wait off for the S4? The battery life is the greatest concern for me, can anyone share their thoughts regarding their battery life and overall usage with the Note 2?

It less than a week for the S4 to be announced. So wait for it unless you want bigger screen, S Pen.
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Never had that kind of experience with any mobile device. Great performance, amazing battery life. Very good display. And the spen is amazing and I can not imagine my life without it
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ungraph said:
There's no doubt the Note II is an extraordinary phone, well known for its battery life and large screen.
Is it too late to get the Note 2 or should I wait off for the S4? The battery life is the greatest concern for me, can anyone share their thoughts regarding their battery life and overall usage with the Note 2?
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SGS4 Will be announced on 14 march, better wait for it, it will feature Eye Scrolling, you should read more about it

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SGS4 Will be announced on 14 march, better wait for it, it will feature Eye Scrolling, you should read more about it
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Yeah I've read up on it's specs. I'm not that into all that gimmicky crap. I'm mostly concerned with the battery life.

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Yeah I've read up on it's specs. I'm not that into all that gimmicky crap. I'm mostly concerned with the battery life.
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Battery life on Note II with Android 4.1.1 is excellent... so if you decide to get N2, don't upgrade to 4.1.2, becaue it kills the battery.

and get a nice sudden death ... which in a best case scenario will get your phone replaced and you will lose all your Data. .. just for not charging every night
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I doubt the s iv will have better battery life. I just don't think Samsung can fit a battery big enough into the smaller format.
Still may as well wait a few days and see what the spec's are. It could surprise.
Sent from the mighty Note II.

Haven't read to much about the SG4 but the note has an amazing battery. It last 24 or more hours med to heavy use. It has a lot of gemicky stuff its self. I like the facial recognition to unlock the screen. And the fact that it checks the camera to see if you are looking at the screen and stops it from timing out the screen.
super note II

This on 4.1.2 update model SPH-L900
super note II
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Wondering the same thing myself, actually.
My Verizon contract is done in May. But I have a deal where I can go to AT&T for free. That being said, at $88 a month on vzw, does it really make sense to wait for the new round of galaxy devices? The money I'd save leaving Verizon would pay for the phone in full by that time. I've got nothing to use on AT&T in the meantime.
It makes economic sense to leave vzw as soon as I can. That being said, the HTC one is coming out in a few weeks, right at the end of my billing cycle. My first and only smartphone has been this thunderbolt. I'm accustomed to HTC and sense. But the lack of swappable battery and SD card slot is something I'd consider a drawback. I can also trade in this tbolt for $100 with their trade in incentive program.
But of all the phones out right now, the Note 2 is the one I want. It just seems to be the perfect phone. I'm just worried about getting it so late in the game. I bet AT&T still charges full price for it too, probably $300 on contract, right? If I got a note, I'd probably want to sell it and put the proceeds toward the note 3, when it gets here...if it isn't 6 inches like the rumors say.
I care about rooting and flashing ROMs. I'd have smashed my bolt by now without those things. HTC seems to be locking down their stuff a lot these days, and if not them, then the US carriers. Is sammy any better?
Seems like the cheapest thing to do would be to ditch vzw asap, and score a HTC One and cash in on $100 for my old tbolt. And while I generally like HTC (wife has a HOX), I can't help shaking the feeling that I should get a note instead.
Duely blundered from my thunderdolt.

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So will the Note 2, in a future update.

How much screen time? I get about 6 hours screentime over 30-40 hours
The Note2 has very great battery life, not to mention the gorgeous display. I run alliance rom and have adjusted my DPI so everything is much smaller, allowing me to fit more content on the screen.

Personally, I'd wait to see what the S4 is before making any sort of decision.
The Note 3 will surely be a jacked up S4, just like the Note 2 was a jacked up S3.
Gut feeling though - smaller phone, higher resolution screen/faster cpu.
There's no way it has better battery life than the Note 2.
- Frank

The battery on my 4.1.2 is even better than I had with 4.1.1,besides you get much better and improved web browser, a much higher screen brightness making it awesome for outside visibility etc...I would certainly recommend the Note II.

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Battery life on Note II with Android 4.1.1 is excellent... so if you decide to get N2, don't upgrade to 4.1.2, becaue it kills the battery.
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That's not true, 4.1.2 is on par if not better than 4.1.1 in terms of battery life
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That's not true, 4.1.2 is on par if not better than 4.1.1 in terms of battery life
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Totally wrong! 4.1.1 had way better battery backup than 4.1.2. It's a known fact now.
@OP: Too late? No. But should you get a Note 2 now? No. Because S4 is almost released and then Note 3 will be coming.
You know this is not an used camera or car or watch, this is a damn cellphone, which literally is outdated within a month of release.
So imo either wait for S4, if you don't like, Note 3. Imo, Note series will be placed a little higher than S series, Samsung does that on purpose.
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got mine two days ago, upgraded from the note 1 glad i did battery is awesome .
sometimes you need to ask yourself what do i need and what will be sufficient?
the note 2 is quad core and fast as hell will it slow down in two years? i doubt it.

Yes the s4 is iut soon. But you wont see an s4 note until much later on. And who needs 8cores when most apps dont use 4. And a 5.9 screen is just rediculous
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Battery life on Note II with Android 4.1.1 is excellent... so if you decide to get N2, don't upgrade to 4.1.2, becaue it kills the battery.
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Agreed, an amazing phone over all. Spen works fantastic, screen is far superior to almost all handsets (mainly due to the size, has a lot of wow factor) but yeah upgrading to 4.1.2 has smashed my battery life by half. Not impressed. Still wouldn't swap though, even with its cheap battery life on 4.1.2 it still lasts longer than anything else
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[Q] Upgrading from Nexus 4 to Galaxy Note 3 Neo. Should I?

Hi friends.
I currently own a Nexus 4 and I have loved this device for a REALLY long time. However, now I think its time to upgrade. My upgrade is due to the following 4 reasons ONLY.
1) Screen Size. I want a bigger screen size than my N4
2) Available Memory. 16 GB. Every now and then its full. Cant expand. I take lotsa pictures and videos.
3) Camera. MAJOR REASON. Oh I hate my phone whenever I open the camera app. The camera itself is just plain pathetic. It just cant focus AT ALL. The pictures are 95% of the times blur. No my hands are not shaky. But this phone requires your hands to be trained on a snipper perhaps. And the pics are always dull, without life.
4) Battery. Need to charge it quite a lot. Although I am not a heavy user at all. But KitKat has ruined the phone. Moreover, I do NOT play games at all and never use data. If it had a removable battery, I would have easily charged the extra battery and use it on the go.
Earlier I was thinking abt LG G Pro but now I am thinking of Samsung Galaxy Note 3 Neo. So picking SGN3Neo for the following reasons:
1) First and foremost, Price. It has dramatically slashed. It now costs $380, unlocked.
2) Camera. I dont know but have read in the reviews that it's not on par with S4, however it miles better than N4. I mostly CROP images and stuff, so it is good for cropping? How's video/pics in night? Blur? or Clear?
3) Battery. Again, tech site and customers reviews say it is awesome. And ya, its removable. Lets say if it fails in a couple of year, i can easily buy one and replace it.
4) It's got a micro SD card slot upto 64 Gig. So memory shouldn't be a problem.
5) I think 720p should be fine, considering it has AMOLED display.
6) OTG, for even more space.
Prices of other phones in my country.
LG G2: $440
LG G Pro: $280
Galaxy S4: $450
OnePlus One: *ock Teaser (not interested)
As you can see, almost all these phones are priced quite above Neo 3, so I am toooo inclined towards the Neo as it has decent specs. Moreover, I don't much care about Android updates. But still would want to know, have you guys gotten KITKAT? As MANYY users are reporting firmware issues and other day-to-day issues with the phone. Like: phones shows full signals, regardless sim is inserted or not. Or, screen flickering issues. etc
I would request you guys to let me know how the camera is. The camera is very important for me, so please tel me your experiences. And is there any other flaw you guys found with the Neo 3 that you suggest me not opting for it?
And ya does ti lag badly? Say like S3? (The only reason I have hated samsung phones is, LAG. Please tell me does it lag after a while?
, once the phone is filled with lotsa apps and media?
TL;DR... Want to upgrade from N4 to SGN3 Neo. Please suggest.

1. Got mine for around $360 unlocked, great value.
2. The camera is great. Video is superb. Low-light is excellent too. Having a little difficulty focusing on a macro scale though, well it's same for most devices too. The front camera is good as well, even for a 2MP.
3. Battery. 74HR Endurance Rating on GSMArena. Excellent!
4. Yep!
5. 720P S-Amoled. What looks bad on paper, actually looks great, in my opinion. I don't notice much difference having used a N3 before. Lower res = better battery life. S-Amoled means excellent viewing angles, deep blacks and good saturation!
6. OTG. Expansion much?
go for it. You have your concerns covered.

hakz said:
1. Got mine for around $360 unlocked, great value.
2. The camera is great. Video is superb. Low-light is excellent too. Having a little difficulty focusing on a macro scale though, well it's same for most devices too. The front camera is good as well, even for a 2MP.
3. Battery. 74HR Endurance Rating on GSMArena. Excellent!
4. Yep!
5. 720P S-Amoled. What looks bad on paper, actually looks great, in my opinion. I don't notice much difference having used a N3 before. Lower res = better battery life. S-Amoled means excellent viewing angles, deep blacks and good saturation!
6. OTG. Expansion much?
go for it. You have your concerns covered.
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Thank you bro.
By the way, Samsung has just launched Neo 3 with Snapdragon 800 CPU and a subsequent GPU. Currently available in Korea only. I am sure it will make it to other countries too. Do you think I should wait a little longer and grab that one? It's available in Korea since Mar 3rd, however, I couldn't find even its model number on internet, so that I may ask the store here in my city to get one. Plus, its not even mentioned on eBay or Amazon :s

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Thank you bro.
By the way, Samsung has just launched Neo 3 with Snapdragon 800 CPU and a subsequent GPU. Currently available in Korea only. I am sure it will make it to other countries too. Do you think I should wait a little longer and grab that one? It's available in Korea since Mar 3rd, however, I couldn't find even its model number on internet, so that I may ask the store here in my city to get one. Plus, its not even mentioned on eBay or Amazon :s[/QUOTE
i think samsung is not planning to release the 800 worldwide.exclusive only in korea.
my only opinion why u should go for the note 3 neo is the battery life.i have used n4 and sold my n5 for the note 3 neo.
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klaud004 said:
filthykid said:
Thank you bro.
By the way, Samsung has just launched Neo 3 with Snapdragon 800 CPU and a subsequent GPU. Currently available in Korea only. I am sure it will make it to other countries too. Do you think I should wait a little longer and grab that one? It's available in Korea since Mar 3rd, however, I couldn't find even its model number on internet, so that I may ask the store here in my city to get one. Plus, its not even mentioned on eBay or Amazon :s
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i think samsung is not planning to release the 800 worldwide.exclusive only in korea.
my only opinion why u should go for the note 3 neo is the battery life.i have used n4 and sold my n5 for the note 3 neo.
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They will. I mean all these phones, regarldless of their region of release, make it to almost everywhere. But I was wondering, is QS 800 THAT good than the Exynos Hexacore that I should wait?
If there is a difference of lets say, 20% even, I am pretty much OK with it.

filthykid said:
They will. I mean all these phones, regarldless of their region of release, make it to almost everywhere. But I was wondering, is QS 800 THAT good than the Exynos Hexacore that I should wait?
If there is a difference of lets say, 20% even, I am pretty much OK with it.
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if you are sure they will then wait for the 800.for me its far better than exynos.

filthykid said:
They will. I mean all these phones, regarldless of their region of release, make it to almost everywhere. But I was wondering, is QS 800 THAT good than the Exynos Hexacore that I should wait?
If there is a difference of lets say, 20% even, I am pretty much OK with it.
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The Hexa Neo is a workhorse. The Snapdragon might/might not reach you. If it does, just pray it's bands would be supported. Also, the firmware might be least updated, and compatibility issues with the roms/tweaks/root that might be available.
It's your call though. :fingers-crossed:

filthykid said:
Earlier I was thinking abt LG G Pro but now I am thinking of Samsung Galaxy Note 3 Neo. So picking SGN3Neo for the following reasons:
1) First and foremost, Price. It has dramatically slashed. It now costs $380, unlocked.
2) Camera. I dont know but have read in the reviews that it's not on par with S4, however it miles better than N4. I mostly CROP images and stuff, so it is good for cropping? How's video/pics in night? Blur? or Clear?
3) Battery. Again, tech site and customers reviews say it is awesome. And ya, its removable. Lets say if it fails in a couple of year, i can easily buy one and replace it.
4) It's got a micro SD card slot upto 64 Gig. So memory shouldn't be a problem.
5) I think 720p should be fine, considering it has AMOLED display.
6) OTG, for even more space.
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I own a N3Neo and came from a Nexus 4. Pretty much everything you mentioned is a pro for the N3N3o against the Nexus 4. I love having access to a SD card again since I can load it up with music (I don't use the cloud since I listen to music on my commute to work and there are dead spots for cell service for me). Regarding the display, 720p o a 5.5 is perfectly fine.
As you can see, almost all these phones are priced quite above Neo 3, so I am toooo inclined towards the Neo as it has decent specs. Moreover, I don't much care about Android updates. But still would want to know, have you guys gotten KITKAT? As MANYY users are reporting firmware issues and other day-to-day issues with the phone. Like: phones shows full signals, regardless sim is inserted or not. Or, screen flickering issues. etc
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I own the Hong Kong version and I haven't had many problems with the phone. The stock 4.3 firmware is excellent. The only major issue I have is sometimes the radio doesn't pick up a signal when I go from a dead zone to a non-dead zone - turning on airplane mode and then off fixes it. Not a major annoyance.
I would request you guys to let me know how the camera is. The camera is very important for me, so please tel me your experiences. And is there any other flaw you guys found with the Neo 3 that you suggest me not opting for it?
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Camera seems pretty decent better than the N4. This is my first samsung phone so sometimes I notice when I take a picture, move the phone when it's "processing" the image, the saved image is not what I took, but during mid-motion. Odd.
And ya does ti lag badly? Say like S3? (The only reason I have hated samsung phones is, LAG. Please tell me does it lag after a while?
, once the phone is filled with lotsa apps and media?
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Almost no issues with lag and I've been using the phone since mid-April of this year. The hexacore Exynos+Mali T624 seems to keep the phone moving at a good clip. I have read some people have had issue with lag, but my HK region version has been great.
TL;DR... Want to upgrade from N4 to SGN3 Neo. Please suggest.
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Try it out! I have to say it's one of the best sub-$400 phones on the market right now - great price/performance ratio and you get all the Note 3 goodies in a cheaper package.

t3ch7 said:
Camera seems pretty decent better than the N4. This is my first samsung phone so sometimes I notice when I take a picture, move the phone when it's "processing" the image, the saved image is not what I took, but during mid-motion. Odd.
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try disabling smart stabilization

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try disabling smart stabilization
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Tried it with and without digital stabilisation. . Nothing different.
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t3ch7 said:
I own a N3Neo and came from a Nexus 4. Pretty much everything you mentioned is a pro for the N3N3o against the Nexus 4. I love having access to a SD card again since I can load it up with music (I don't use the cloud since I listen to music on my commute to work and there are dead spots for cell service for me). Regarding the display, 720p o a 5.5 is perfectly fine.
I own the Hong Kong version and I haven't had many problems with the phone. The stock 4.3 firmware is excellent. The only major issue I have is sometimes the radio doesn't pick up a signal when I go from a dead zone to a non-dead zone - turning on airplane mode and then off fixes it. Not a major annoyance.
Camera seems pretty decent better than the N4. This is my first samsung phone so sometimes I notice when I take a picture, move the phone when it's "processing" the image, the saved image is not what I took, but during mid-motion. Odd.
Almost no issues with lag and I've been using the phone since mid-April of this year. The hexacore Exynos+Mali T624 seems to keep the phone moving at a good clip. I have read some people have had issue with lag, but my HK region version has been great.
Try it out! I have to say it's one of the best sub-$400 phones on the market right now - great price/performance ratio and you get all the Note 3 goodies in a cheaper package.
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Oh boy thanks for sucha long reply. However I already bought the phone last week and this was my best decision. Moveover I got 5 more buyers who bought it. . In family and friends.
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filthykid said:
Oh boy thanks for sucha long reply. However I already bought the phone last week and this was my best decision. Moveover I got 5 more buyers who bought it. . In family and friends.
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Haha, yea, after posting and seeing your signature, I was like "ohhh, the person already bought the Neo." haha. I'm really loving the phone even though sometimes I feel like it's a tad too big and also I wish it had LTE support in the US.
@hakz - Turning smart stabilization off worked! I don't see the "processing" status bar anymore after taking a pic.

t3ch7 said:
Haha, yea, after posting and seeing your signature, I was like "ohhh, the person already bought the Neo." haha. I'm really loving the phone even though sometimes I feel like it's a tad too big and also I wish it had LTE support in the US.
@hakz - Turning smart stabilization off worked! I don't see the "processing" status bar anymore after taking a pic.
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Oh I can't tell you how much I am loving this BIG screen. It's like I just bought myself an aeroplane haha. And that S-pen! Gosh it's a KILLER. No doubt the Samsung Galaxy Note 3 Neo is an amazing amazinggg experience. Moreover, I don't understand the hate people have against TouchWiz. Coming from a Nexus, I know how it feels. You go crazy and jump around, when you get an android update and in real life usage, what you get IS, a new interface of the dialer, which apparently is a knock of of Windows UI. Nexus, always left me with desires... the desires of MOST simplest things which Google doesn't care much about.
BDW I am still getting those blurry images even after disabling the Image Stabilization. One of the biggest problems with Nexus Camera (apart from insanely pathetic cam quality) was, I had to keep my hands ROCK and STEADY to take a clear pic... else pictures used to come out blurry. I am seeing this somewhat in this phone too. Samsung has the best cameras in cell phones since ages. Wasn't expecting this. What's your firmware? Let me compare with mine.

filthykid said:
Oh I can't tell you how much I am loving this BIG screen. It's like I just bought myself an aeroplane haha. And that S-pen! Gosh it's a KILLER. No doubt the Samsung Galaxy Note 3 Neo is an amazing amazinggg experience. Moreover, I don't understand the hate people have against TouchWiz. Coming from a Nexus, I know how it feels. You go crazy and jump around, when you get an android update and in real life usage, what you get IS, a new interface of the dialer, which apparently is a knock of of Windows UI. Nexus, always left me with desires... the desires of MOST simplest things which Google doesn't care much about.
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I don't really have a problem with TW really in normal usage - I keep things simple on my phone. Three home screens, a few widgets and the quick toggles when you drop down the notification shade has everything I need quick access too. The button that brings you to more toggles I rarely use. I feel like keeping it simple helps when "migrating" from stock Android to Touchwiz - just don't bother with all the extra doohickies Samsung bundles. My only gripe is the unnecessary complexity of Settings, but thankfully there is a search bar to quickly search for setting that's buried somewhere.
On the Neo, TW barely lags if any which is really odd since playing around with the US version of the Note 3, GS4 and GS5 I noticed lag in touchwiz on demo models in stores (maybe cuz they're on for so long and people play around with them?). But, even so, on my Neo, a whole day of using it, no lag.
BDW I am still getting those blurry images even after disabling the Image Stabilization. One of the biggest problems with Nexus Camera (apart from insanely pathetic cam quality) was, I had to keep my hands ROCK and STEADY to take a clear pic... else pictures used to come out blurry. I am seeing this somewhat in this phone too. Samsung has the best cameras in cell phones since ages. Wasn't expecting this. What's your firmware? Let me compare with mine.
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The "blurriness" I was talking about was when smart stabilization is on and I quickly move the phone while the phone is processing the image the resulting picture is not what I took, but mid-motion. I just tried out taking some photos with smart stabilization on and off and the photos are noticeably blurry with the setting off. I'd say keep the stabilization on, take a picture with somewhat steady hands and then wait for the phone to finish processing the image to get best results.
Regarding firmware I am on N7505ZHUAND2 which is the latest firmware for the Hong Kong version - that's the region phone I was shipped.

t3ch7 said:
I don't really have a problem with TW really in normal usage - I keep things simple on my phone. Three home screens, a few widgets and the quick toggles when you drop down the notification shade has everything I need quick access too. The button that brings you to more toggles I rarely use. I feel like keeping it simple helps when "migrating" from stock Android to Touchwiz - just don't bother with all the extra doohickies Samsung bundles. My only gripe is the unnecessary complexity of Settings, but thankfully there is a search bar to quickly search for setting that's buried somewhere.
On the Neo, TW barely lags if any which is really odd since playing around with the US version of the Note 3, GS4 and GS5 I noticed lag in touchwiz on demo models in stores (maybe cuz they're on for so long and people play around with them?). But, even so, on my Neo, a whole day of using it, no lag.
The "blurriness" I was talking about was when smart stabilization is on and I quickly move the phone while the phone is processing the image the resulting picture is not what I took, but mid-motion. I just tried out taking some photos with smart stabilization on and off and the photos are noticeably blurry with the setting off. I'd say keep the stabilization on, take a picture with somewhat steady hands and then wait for the phone to finish processing the image to get best results.
Regarding firmware I am on N7505ZHUAND2 which is the latest firmware for the Hong Kong version - that's the region phone I was shipped.
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Is firmware region or country specific? I see different firmwares of note 3 neo with different people. Why is that
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does your neo camera focus well in the first place?

hakz said:
does your neo camera focus well in the first place?
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Yes. If you were referring to me.

filthykid said:
Yes. If you were referring to me.
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could you upload a resized sample photo? and another screenshot for the EXIF data of the photo itself :fingers-crossed:

hakz said:
could you upload a resized sample photo? and another screenshot for the EXIF data of the photo itself :fingers-crossed:
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You are asking me to upload a "focused" pic taken from an 'auto-focus' camera? What will that prove to you? :s

[Q] Looking to buy G3, questions

As title states...
I'm the primary account holder and bought my Galaxy S4 out right. Well I'm thinking of using one of the lines that has jump and swapping it out for the LG G3 for myself (and give the S4 to the other party).
1.) How does the T-Mobile variant differ from the international version?
2.) Does it have FM included in it?
3.) How easy is this thing to root/flash recovery? Does it come with a locked bootloader? If so, how do you unlock it? I'm coming from owning Galaxy and Nexus products and all had no bootloader problems so I'm a bit leery going to another manufacturer.
4.) How's battery life on this device? I've just about had my fair share of TouchWiz and Samsung (even with AOKP on it as we speak). I really enjoy my fiance's Nexus 5 the way I had it set up but my biggest pet peeve is the battery is small and limited on that device
5.) Most important question, does anyone have any experience with the Xperia Z2 as well? This was the phone I really wanted to get but I can't justify spending $600 on eBay with no warranty on a device versus basically a free upgrade (I pay for all the lines on the account). Any thoughts on the camera on the LG G3 compared to the other flagships (e.g. Xperia Z2, Galaxy S5, Lumina, iPhone)? I use the camera a lot and some reviews I saw said it can be washed out and isn't the greatest.
Thanks for the help. :good:

If you like the Nexus then you'll love the g3. Its the big brother of the Nexus. I say go for it.
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Nosferatu. said:
As title states...
I'm the primary account holder and bought my Galaxy S4 out right. Well I'm thinking of using one of the lines that has jump and swapping it out for the LG G3 for myself (and give the S4 to the other party).
1.) How does the T-Mobile variant differ from the international version?
2.) Does it have FM included in it?
3.) How easy is this thing to root/flash recovery? Does it come with a locked bootloader? If so, how do you unlock it? I'm coming from owning Galaxy and Nexus products and all had no bootloader problems so I'm a bit leery going to another manufacturer.
4.) How's battery life on this device? I've just about had my fair share of TouchWiz and Samsung (even with AOKP on it as we speak). I really enjoy my fiance's Nexus 5 the way I had it set up but my biggest pet peeve is the battery is small and limited on that device
5.) Most important question, does anyone have any experience with the Xperia Z2 as well? This was the phone I really wanted to get but I can't justify spending $600 on eBay with no warranty on a device versus basically a free upgrade (I pay for all the lines on the account). Any thoughts on the camera on the LG G3 compared to the other flagships (e.g. Xperia Z2, Galaxy S5, Lumina, iPhone)? I use the camera a lot and some reviews I saw said it can be washed out and isn't the greatest.
Thanks for the help. :good:
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1. WiFi calling, you don't get an antenna(only works on korea), unlocked bootloader, and you don't get headphones nor a spare battery in the box like the korean version. I think the international phone brings headphones.
2. It's incredibly easy thanks to the developers. Root/recovery is available for T-Mobile. Root is available to everyone except sprint(coming soon). Only T-Mobile has recovery so far.
3. Everyone's usage is different but I love the battery if this phone. I easily get 16-20 hrs of standby and 5-5.5 of screen time.
4. I have no experience with the Z2 but I really like the G3 camera. There are picture threads on the T-Mobile and regular g3 sections that you can take a look at.
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No FM, not sure which phones even have it since it's not a feature I look for.
Battery life is much better than it was for me with the N5. I used Greenify and Lux brightness to keep it low on the N5 and I would still be under 15% at night with maybe 1.5 hours of screen time, at the most.
The G3 has been much better. I went to bed last night with 22 % left after 12 hours of use and 2.5 hours of screen time. I had never achieved that on the Nexus 5. I have a ton of apps that wake up the phone: Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, Hangouts, SMS, Google Music runs often. I even spent all day off of work's WiFi. Today I have turned it on, so we'll see if battery life improves. I had also turned off WiFi when screen is off due to the privacy bug, but today I enabled it again to see how much impact it has on the battery.
I am not a fan of Samsung devices and dislike Touchwiz. The skin on the G3 is pretty decent. It's not very intrusive, and even though I miss some of the N5's icons and cleaner notification drawer and status bar, the G3 has a pretty clean interface without having to disable everything.
The big advantage of the Tmo version is we already have a recovery, so we should be able to get more tweaks in ROMs soon.
I have been unable to get tethering to work (without the usage counting towards your tether bucket), and there are reports of international roaming issues.
Phone is running 4.4.2, and I'm not sure how good LG will be with an L update, but I don't think they'd be too bad. Hopefully a GPE version comes along and we can convert the phone to that.
The camera is pretty good, much better than my N5. The built in camera app does a pretty sh**ty job at auto White Balance in low light, but it is fast. I haven't used a Z2 in person, but the Z1 I tried a while back didn't blow me away in terms of camera quality. This one doesn't blow me away either, but it's an improvement over what I had before. I always had to use HDR+ mode on the N5, which meant photos took a long time, but they came out pretty good. I do miss HDR+ for low light photos.

You can use hdr on the g3 camera app.

so to be clear, no locked bootloader correct? Just run ADB to obtain root and flash a recovery?

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IXChicharitoXI said:
You can use hdr on the g3 camera app.
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You can, but it's not nearly as good as Google's exclusive HDR+ I keep forgetting to see if someone has ported the feature over to another device.
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adamfair said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2821005
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Yup, all done for you in a script, or you can do it manually if you so desire. I did it on mine and I have TWRP (it looks funny because it only takes about two thirds of the screen) and root.

Nosferatu. said:
As title states...
I'm the primary account holder and bought my Galaxy S4 out right. Well I'm thinking of using one of the lines that has jump and swapping it out for the LG G3 for myself (and give the S4 to the other party).
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1.) As noted above, the T-Mobile G3 has does not come with earbuds or a spare battery. It does support Qi wireless charging, if you have the right cover.
2.) No FM radio.
3.) T-Mobile G3 bootloader is unlocked out of the box. Rooting is brain-dead simple, thanks to PurpleDrake.
4.) Battery life is above average, but not exceptional. My old Note 2 went longer between charges, but my G3 always has >20% left at the end of the day, so I can't complain. It really depends on how you use the phone. You could completely drain it playing heavy 3D games or watching Netflix all day, but that would drain any device (except perhaps a Droid Maxx)
5.) I have no experience with the Xperia Z2, so I cannot comment about that.
polo045 said:
If you like the Nexus then you'll love the g3. Its the big brother of the Nexus. I say go for it.
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Not necessarily. If you like the "vanilla" android experience of the Nexus 5, then you might not care for the LG UI. It is less laggy than Touchwiz, but it's still there. People that are used to no-frills style of AOSP might be turned off by the LG UI. Of course, that will change once the G3 gets cyanogenmod support, but that is down the road.

YAY! Phone rocks. Got it rooted and whatnot. Don't see much out there yet for development. Anyways, how do we go about getting wireless charging? I noticed it doesn't come with anything out of the box stock.
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Nosferatu. said:
YAY! Phone rocks. Got it rooted and whatnot. Don't see much out there yet for development. Anyways, how do we go about getting wireless charging? I noticed it doesn't come with anything out of the box stock.
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You can get the quick case, it replaces the back and has wireless charging. If you don't like the flip cover (I don't), you can get a back cover with wireless charging. There's a Verizon version that has been confirmed to work with our D851.