Hello guys i'm using Doomkernel v14 and i have a lot of doubts about it, first of all sorry for my english i'm latin american xD, and i love this comunity i have learn a lot of it... i mean about changin roms, kernels and etc.
ok, i have doomkernel v14 since the begining of this year but since i installed it i notice that the battery last a lot less than when i was using stock and is very annoying because i like this kernel and i m using it with True Ancestor LE 1.6 ROM that is very complete and i want to know if much peopple has this problem and if it has a solution because i dont want to change this kernel and i dont understan the undervolting thing is very confuce to me is with the same O.C app or with something in the computer?? because i saw some console windows in some posts screenshots and i didnt understan it, and other thing the cellphone heats when im playing MC4 and heroes of order & chaos and some other games.
and a few more information about my problen is that when i have the screen active it consumes about 1% of battery each 5 minites with the wi-fi off and with the wi-fi on 3 minutes i cant find help because not too much peopple has unlocket bootloaders
J0z31911 said:
Hello guys i'm using Doomkernel v14 and i have a lot of doubts about it, first of all sorry for my english i'm latin american xD, and i love this comunity i have learn a lot of it... i mean about changin roms, kernels and etc.
ok, i have doomkernel v14 since the begining of this year but since i installed it i notice that the battery last a lot less than when i was using stock and is very annoying because i like this kernel and i m using it with True Ancestor LE 1.6 ROM that is very complete and i want to know if much peopple has this problem and if it has a solution because i dont want to change this kernel and i dont understan the undervolting thing is very confuce to me is with the same O.C app or with something in the computer?? because i saw some console windows in some posts screenshots and i didnt understan it, and other thing the cellphone heats when im playing MC4 and heroes of order & chaos and some other games.
and a few more information about my problen is that when i have the screen active it consumes about 1% of battery each 5 minites with the wi-fi off and with the wi-fi on 3 minutes i cant find help because not too much peopple has unlocket bootloaders
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did you check your current cpu governor? you will really use more battery life if the settings of your phone is OC you will get more performance but lesser battery life, can you maybe provide a screenshot of the current gpu settings and its governors?
fritzbored said:
did you check your current cpu governor? you will really use more battery life if the settings of your phone is OC you will get more performance but lesser battery life, can you maybe provide a screenshot of the current gpu settings and its governors?
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how do i take it ? from the O.C aplication? i use setcpu the setcpu not even detect the battery stats and i tried other apps and the same they dont detect battery stats i tried antutu cpu master, no frills cpu (i didnt like it), incredi control, and setxperia
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J0z31911 said:
how do i take it ? from the O.C aplication? i use setcpu the setcpu not even detect the battery stats and i tried other apps and the same they dont detect battery stats i tried antutu cpu master, no frills cpu (i didnt like it), incredi control, and setxperia
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Try volume down + power
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Ok here are the list of things that you can possibly do.
1.) check how many running background application is there on your phone you can do this by going to settings>apps>running and try to close down those which are really not needed.
2.) try to remove task killers if you have them instead of saving power they ussually consume more because they kill system process and the phone restarts them in which will use up more power.
3.) try to use lesser brightness on your screen display instead of using automatic detect.
4.) try to use a battery calibration script you can find it in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276 (this is self proven by me and it worked perfect im not responsible for any issues that may cause after running the script)
5.) and lastly try to lower down data traffic and gps use they are bigger killers than wifi
By the way your CPU settings is at minimal not in OC so its a bit of mystery why this is happening to you maybe there are a lot of bloatwares on your phone try to check them
fritzbored said:
Ok here are the list of things that you can possibly do.
1.) check how many running background application is there on your phone you can do this by going to settings>apps>running and try to close down those which are really not needed.
2.) try to remove task killers if you have them instead of saving power they ussually consume more because they kill system process and the phone restarts them in which will use up more power.
3.) try to use lesser brightness on your screen display instead of using automatic detect.
4.) try to use a battery calibration script you can find it in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276 (this is self proven by me and it worked perfect im not responsible for any issues that may cause after running the script)
5.) and lastly try to lower down data traffic and gps use they are bigger killers than wifi
By the way your CPU settings is at minimal not in OC so its a bit of mystery why this is happening to you maybe there are a lot of bloatwares on your phone try to check them
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Thanks for your answer,look i have my screen brightness almost at minimum my xperia play has true ancestor with. 58 baseband and is a r800a and the FW changed it to r800i
And what are bloatwares? Can you explain me please and that script that you used can be reverted? I guess i dont have to worry because i have a nandroid and by the way i don't have the data traffic and gps activated all the time
Sent from my R800i using xda app-developers app
fritzbored said:
Ok here are the list of things that you can possibly do.
1.) check how many running background application is there on your phone you can do this by going to settings>apps>running and try to close down those which are really not needed.
2.) try to remove task killers if you have them instead of saving power they ussually consume more because they kill system process and the phone restarts them in which will use up more power.
3.) try to use lesser brightness on your screen display instead of using automatic detect.
4.) try to use a battery calibration script you can find it in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276 (this is self proven by me and it worked perfect im not responsible for any issues that may cause after running the script)
5.) and lastly try to lower down data traffic and gps use they are bigger killers than wifi
By the way your CPU settings is at minimal not in OC so its a bit of mystery why this is happening to you maybe there are a lot of bloatwares on your phone try to check them
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by the way what are u using in your divice?? and what model is? i will try to configure it as u to try to get better battery life
J0z31911 said:
by the way what are u using in your divice?? and what model is? i will try to configure it as u to try to get better battery life
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I am currently using an xperia play r800i, when i say bloatware these are basically software that has been preloaded on a rom or custom rom that runs in the background, you may not generally see it running but it is there, now with the battery calibration script if you run that it will basically refresh your battery stats and provide you with an almost 100% accurate report of your battery percentage, my phone last upto a whole day with basic wifi browsing and normal operations last for atleast 6 hours with heavy game usage, i would also try to suggest an app called juice defender it (the pro one if you got the wallet to spare) it is a good app you can customize how your applications behave on normal and screen off condition it may be confusing at first to try to play around with it..hope my advice helps you in even a simple way
fritzbored said:
I am currently using an xperia play r800i, when i say bloatware these are basically software that has been preloaded on a rom or custom rom that runs in the background, you may not generally see it running but it is there, now with the battery calibration script if you run that it will basically refresh your battery stats and provide you with an almost 100% accurate report of your battery percentage, my phone last upto a whole day with basic wifi browsing and normal operations last for atleast 6 hours with heavy game usage, i would also try to suggest an app called juice defender it (the pro one if you got the wallet to spare) it is a good app you can customize how your applications behave on normal and screen off condition it may be confusing at first to try to play around with it..hope my advice helps you in even a simple way
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i installed lupus v6 last night i did it because it is more updated than the doomkernel whish lupus are u using ? i asking because i saw your signature main is r800i but the firmware changed it to r800i xD i read that i have to calibrate the battery each time i change the rom, and i saw that u are using gin2jellybean i read that gin2jellybean drains the battery a lot but that was with doomkernel maybe with lupus the thigs change
J0z31911 said:
i installed lupus v6 last night i did it because it is more updated than the doomkernel whish lupus are u using ? i asking because i saw your signature main is r800i but the firmware changed it to r800i xD i read that i have to calibrate the battery each time i change the rom, and i saw that u are using gin2jellybean i read that gin2jellybean drains the battery a lot but that was with doomkernel maybe with lupus the thigs change
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I am currently using the lupus v6 Gingerbread, Gin2jellybean is a smooth and fast rom, but it does have it flaws on my own opinion which you are right that it does consume a bit more battery than others, ive used lupus GB/ICS together with Gin2jellybean and it was a good experience however battery was only lasting for 6-7 hours of normal daily use without gaming.. heres a TIP. if you are planning to have your phone into a gaming machine better stick to GB and install GB Roms as well. But if your planning to have your phone with sleek and your after eyecandy in UI you can install ICS..
fritzbored said:
I am currently using the lupus v6 Gingerbread, Gin2jellybean is a smooth and fast rom, but it does have it flaws on my own opinion which you are right that it does consume a bit more battery than others, ive used lupus GB/ICS together with Gin2jellybean and it was a good experience however battery was only lasting for 6-7 hours of normal daily use without gaming.. heres a TIP. if you are planning to have your phone into a gaming machine better stick to GB and install GB Roms as well. But if your planning to have your phone with sleek and your after eyecandy in UI you can install ICS..
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yes im more into gaming than other things but battery drain problem makes me a bit sad i would like to get one of those extended batteries but i dont think i can find one on my country xDD
and other thing how do i install that script?? there are a lot of downloads on that post is very confusing for me i dont see any instructions D:
better battery stats report
i will post my bbs report to see if some one can help me by finding whats wrong with my divice
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I am on WIUI 1.12.16 ICS build.
Yesterday, dont know what struck my mind, and i just happend to UnderClock my defy. I underclocked it to 600 Mhz, and to my surprise, i didnt find any lag.
The phone is running smooth as earlier (as at 1.1 Ghz).
Profit : Am saving considerable Juice
No effect on homescreen scrolling, multitasking, opening of app drawer, etc.
Infact all my games (Adrenaline HD, GTA III, BattleHomerun 3D, etc) are running the same way they did when phone was OverClocked
Am using the following Clock Frequencies & find it stable. Will test it even furthur
300-16
450- 28
600-38
Am pretty happy with the present speed as there is hardly and sluggishness or lag in my phone.
Give it a try and Share your experience here.
Trust me its worth giving a shot
Nobody tried it yet ??
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Have you doubled checked the settings in bootmenu?
Or just the app setvels?
I find at 800 its slower to open apps.
Sent from my Xoom using xda premium
Hell, I find 1000MHz too laggy nowadays, i keep it at 1100-62. Increasing vsel3 also helped maintain stability under heavier loads.
my vsel
im on CM7 RC
300 / 20
500 / 38
800 / 45
im running normally no lag prety god battery life.
just start to undervolt and im on those values for now
but wanna try lower values
just wanna know if lower values may do something to the phone.
Yea keep on going lower...
There is hardly any lag in my ROM and its pretty stable.
For those who find 1Ghz slow, blame ur build
At the end of the day, juice really does matters
question
Sidz4u said:
I am on WIUI 1.12.16 ICS build.
Yesterday, dont know what struck my mind, and i just happend to UnderClock my defy. I underclocked it to 600 Mhz, and to my surprise, i didnt find any lag.
The phone is running smooth as earlier (as at 1.1 Ghz).
Profit : Am saving considerable Juice
No effect on homescreen scrolling, multitasking, opening of app drawer, etc.
Infact all my games (Adrenaline HD, GTA III, BattleHomerun 3D, etc) are running the same way they did when phone was OverClocked
Am using the following Clock Frequencies & find it stable. Will test it even furthur
300-16
450- 28
600-38
Am pretty happy with the present speed as there is hardly and sluggishness or lag in my phone.
Give it a try and Share your experience here.
Trust me its worth giving a shot
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how much juice u think u save?
how much your battery last with cpu oveclocked and how much now ?
Im on CM7.2 12.01.02 with these settings
300/20
800/45
1250/65
ondemand gov
up load 85
Stepping 50000
and i get 2 days of usage with wireless always connected and synk on and twitdeck updates set at 1 hour, and i think you cant downclock under 800 if u set vsel3 like that it doesent consider it and it loads the default ( on CM is1000,i dont know on miui wich is it)
Sent from my MoTo.MB525 with XDApp.
saneToMore said:
how much juice u think u save?
how much your battery last with cpu oveclocked and how much now ?
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I unplugged my charger today morning with battery full.
>Played Videos for about an hour with full brightness (Moboplayer)
>Listened Music for more than two hours via earphones.
>Browsed the net for about half an hour. (2G)
>My GPRS was connected all the time and Nimbuzz was running in background.
After all this i have 68% battery left
I think thats some performance
kHron0S said:
Im on CM7.2 12.01.02 with these settings
300/20
800/45
1250/65
ondemand gov
up load 85
Stepping 50000
and i get 2 days of usage with wireless always connected and synk on and twitdeck updates set at 1 hour.
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Dude, u got to be kidding,
firstly at 1.25Ghz, setting vsel to 65 wont be stable and woulld give you hotboots
Next at that vsel, there is no way that you get 2 days usage that too with wireless "always" connected, Unless you have an Extended battery.(more than 1540mAh)
, and i think you cant downclock under 800 if u set vsel3 like that it doesent consider it and it loads the default ( on CM is1000,i dont know on miui wich is it)
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I feel i can actually set my vsel3 below the default cause when i check the CPU through other apps (Elixer or others) and also the System info shows the Processor speed as 600 Mhz.
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could anyone please tell me ... how did you get that 'WajkIUI' logo there in system details !?? ... i always get 'MIUI' logo there ..
yamandude said:
could anyone please tell me ... how did you get that 'WajkIUI' logo there in system details !?? ... i always get 'MIUI' logo there ..
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Just flash the latest build of WajkIUI from the WajkIUI thread and u'll get the new logo
The latest one is WajkIUI 2.1.6
Sidz4u said:
I am on WIUI 1.12.16 ICS build.
Yesterday, dont know what struck my mind, and i just happend to UnderClock my defy. I underclocked it to 600 Mhz, and to my surprise, i didnt find any lag.
The phone is running smooth as earlier (as at 1.1 Ghz).
Profit : Am saving considerable Juice
No effect on homescreen scrolling, multitasking, opening of app drawer, etc.
Infact all my games (Adrenaline HD, GTA III, BattleHomerun 3D, etc) are running the same way they did when phone was OverClocked
Am using the following Clock Frequencies & find it stable. Will test it even furthur
300-16
450- 28
600-38
Am pretty happy with the present speed as there is hardly and sluggishness or lag in my phone.
Give it a try and Share your experience here.
Trust me its worth giving a shot
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All games use the gpu for rendering and dont completely use the cpu, the homescreen scrolling, effects are also mostly done the gpu (yes, even without full harware accelerated UI). So underclocking wouldnt have affected that much.
I know this because ive tried a series of vsel - clock combos from 800-38 to 1200-64 and noticed slight inc/dec in performance for games and homescreen scrolling.
But, it obviously affects processes that require the use of cpu. The one that i could notice right away was in the browser. It was noticeably slower in loading pages.
So basically its a matter of choosing b/w power vs battery and finding the right balance.
I use 900-40 600-28 300-16 and if i need more power i use 1200-62(ms2ginger)
I've done that ! .... again ! .... still miui logo comes. ... ... done both ICS version and the normal one ..... any ideas ?
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And Yea @pravarth. .. ure right man. ... on these super low settings browsing and many other CPU intensive activities do take a hit. ..
And yes .... that wajkiui logo thing was somewhat related to the themes .... got it now )
another question
also wanna know what scaling governor are you using
is ondemand or are you using a custon governor ?
thanks
Sidz4u said:
Dude, u got to be kidding,
firstly at 1.25Ghz, setting vsel to 65 wont be stable and woulld give you hotboots
Next at that vsel, there is no way that you get 2 days usage that too with wireless "always" connected, Unless you have an Extended battery.(more than 1540mAh)
I feel i can actually set my vsel3 below the default cause when i check the CPU through other apps (Elixer or others) and also the System info shows the Processor speed as 600 Mhz.
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Im to lazy to make a battery spy stat to show it to you and second my first max vsel was 1270/66 but i had problems with the wireles not startin from the start and i downclocked to 1250/65 and for me its perfectly stable.
Sent from my MoTo.MB525 with XDApp.
pravarth said:
All games use the gpu for rendering and dont completely use the cpu, the homescreen scrolling, effects are also mostly done the gpu (yes, even without full harware accelerated UI). So underclocking wouldnt have affected that much.
I know this because ive tried a series of vsel - clock combos from 800-38 to 1200-64 and noticed slight inc/dec in performance for games and homescreen scrolling.
But, it obviously affects processes that require the use of cpu. The one that i could notice right away was in the browser. It was noticeably slower in loading pages.
So basically its a matter of choosing b/w power vs battery and finding the right balance.
I use 900-40 600-28 300-16 and if i need more power i use 1200-62(ms2ginger)
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the rom you use?? I nerver get lower than 900/46, or the phone will restart.
He mentioned ms2ginger . ...
vinhomn said:
the rom you use?? I nerver get lower than 900/46, or the phone will restart.
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Yeah it varies from phone to phone. I can even do 1000-46 and it is pretty stable. Rarely freezes.
I can't even accept the speed of a 800mhz defy
600 mhz...
So i decided to make a thread for all those of us who have a huge battery leakage... After putting Unofficial CM7.2 from alquez...
I was draining battery on my phone for about 4.5 to 5 hours to 5 % ... from 100%... so just lets get this moving ...
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The first thing i did, was calibrating battery ofc... and i tought it will help ... but the battery didn`t last any longer.. This step is unnecessary. Okay, not unnecessary, IT'S USELESS.
[edit] Now when we know the truth, here is why it didnt work : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1445643, because it was just a myth
To make sure, you are making any change to your battery, i would reccomend you guys download, the app from user profete162.
It analyses your battery and gives you average battery drain in % per hour ...
Here is the xda link to it : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1483448
And a market link : https://market.android.com/details?id=com.WazaBe.android.BatteryDrain
I was using Battery Callibration , it`s free.
Link : https://market.android.com/details?...xLDEsImNvbS5uZW1hLmJhdHRlcnljYWxpYnJhdGlvbiJd
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After this, I installed Juice Defender, i think its a GREAT app, and a MUST HAVE...I would recommend upgrading to Ultimate...
So next app is Juice Defender Ultimate
Link : https://market.android.com/details?...xLDEsImNvbS5sYXRlZHJvaWQuanVpY2VkZWZlbmRlciJd
III
Next thing was a little battery saving tip that I loved by user amraving ...
It can be found here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1135301
[edit] User that i mentioned down, said that this just helps ppl in area where 3g is not availbe to save battery, so the phone would stop hunting for 3g networks... but i think when you put i to preffered it will just not search for 3g all the time, it will put it to gsm, and i guess it wont make any worse for members in 3g area with low signal... i hope i will get some feedback.
IV
If you are not having a data plan with your carrier, you can disable data acces over mobile network.
It can be done by going Menu/Settings/Wireless&Networks/Mobile Networks/Data enabled , untick ...
Or if you have a data plan with your carrier, you can use an app to control internet... With Juice Defender Ultimate you can set a lot off stuff and there is another app called LBE Privacy Guard. You will find a lot of usefull stuff in settings.
Link : https://market.android.com/details?id=com.lbe.security.lite
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Next one was most annoying to me, its the LED in CM7.2 that turns on and flashes when u are on last 5% of battery, it kinda pissed me off and i think it also wasted my battery in critical moments for no reason.
So i got to an app called Light Flow, here you can disable all the stuff you want... I removed blinking on low battery, just left on sms and missed call... You can remove that too... So it doesn`t use LED at all...
Here is a ling to Lite version: https://market.android.com/details?...uc3VsdGluZy5hbmRyb2lkLmxpZ2h0Zmxvd2xpdGUiXQ..
There is also a paid version which i personally use.
[edit] This is what i didn't write, the best thing for your phone is not to discharge your phone totally at all. Because LithiumIon batteries are just made that way. Though I still think removing some leds will help, and if you really CAN'T charge your phone, that blinking led on <5% won't help anyway.
VI
And a last but not the least important, a little messing with cpu clocks...
You will need an app called SetCpu.
Here is link on market : https://market.android.com/details?id=com.mhuang.overclocking
It`s paid app.
So now when you have it i used advice from user playagiron. When you enter app, you set default cpu to 122 min/ 768 max, and set default governor to smartass. Then you go to profiles, and make profile for screen off, there u put smartass governor also, and clock 122 min / 245 max.
I also made third profile just in case, when temperature raises too much, to restore clock to 245 min / 600 max as it was by default, once again smartass governor.
So that would be it, i hope this stuff helps someone, if you have any further suggestions, or something is not ok here just send me a pm to change.
For me it worked, and i increased battery life to something like 16 hours moderate to high usage(including gaming wifi and so on..)...
[Update]:
Okay, i got what was sucking also battery out of my cm ... I couldnt beleive I didn't check that ....
In CM there is in Settings/Display settings/Automatic backlight, I used to keep it enabled, and also the 'Allow Light Decrease' was ticked. So, what i did is just disable all of it -
Disable Light sensor filter totally
Untick Use custom
Untick 'Allow light decrease'
when you do that you can go settings/display and set to automatic, OR simply leave it on 30% as someone suggested, i guess it's just the way you like it ...
Good luck with this one added
And a disclaimer, idk if i need it but, what the hell. (copied from somewhere around the forum )
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b02 said:
i was draining battery on my phone for about 4.5 to 5 hours to 5 % ... from 100%..
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And results ?
as i wrote up, like 16 hours or so... and im using a phone moderately... i disconected a charger in morning, 10 o'clock and used a phone, internet, wifi, and played angry birds on purpose for 2 hours ... now im at 60 percent battery... so i can say it all works ... for me at least
[edit] : now its 24 hours, battery is 5%... and i was using phone moderately to high ...
Next thing is, i got a suggesstion from a member CafeKampuchia, and I will be editing first post.
I will test this, i hope it works.. Thank you..
Thanks mate
I'm glad i helped, now the only thing that is wasting my battery remaining is games i think, that must be CM related, or kernel or drivers or w/e .... i hope next builds from alquez will fix it ...
refresh... though im glad i fixed the battery life, i didnt make it last enought ... i want MORE . anyone with some usefull suggestions to add here ?
What could u suggest , which options is best in justice defender?
or which would be the best way to use it?
szuladam said:
What could u suggest , which options is best in justice defender?
or which would be the best way to use it?
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i use advanced, then set it as u wish, and as its best for you , depends how you use your phone i can send u my settings if u want but, its all individual ...
Hmm...
b02 said:
refresh... though im glad i fixed the battery life, i didnt make it last enought ... i want MORE . anyone with some usefull suggestions to add here ?
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Don't overclock when running games as it runs ba||'s out while you are running them...Dim your brightness when playing games...Don't play games...
Get one of these and some anchor chain to go with it...
d33ps1x said:
Don't overclock when running games as it runs ba||'s out while you are running them...Dim your brightness when playing games...Don't play games...
Get one of these and some anchor chain to go with it...
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If i wanted to kill someone with my phone, i would certainly get that battery... WTH its HUGE ...
i dim my brightness, it acts better now ... though... there is problem in cm for sure, since on stock it was running for more time.... i guess someone will find where is that thingy that sucks my battery
here are the proofs
i used the phone moderate, talking/texting, some wifi+internet surfing, had some bluetooth pictures sent, and after the screenshot it lasted like few hours more idk how much exactly... I think it was like 1 o'clock ... means 6 more more, so its like 35 hours...
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Okay, i refreshed the thread, and added an update, which also helped a lot with saving the battery ...
I'm formatting the phone now. When the phone is ready, I'll try all the points and I will tell you my results.
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I'm formatting the phone now. When the phone is ready, I'll try all the points and I will tell you my results.
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long time no hear from you mate ?
I think disabling Background Data in Settings/Accounts & sync helps a bit too.
Thanks for your post
Thanks,
My mother use this phone, and she can use it more than a day now.
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Thanks,
My mother use this phone, and she can use it more than a day now.
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im glad it helped, i managed to use it more than 40 hours, though playing games will still kill it very fast
How can I improve the battery life of my play with rooting? I don't want apps that kill every background app though as I may want to go back but it would be killed
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Assuming you're on a stock rom theres a couple things you can do. The easiest would be to root and use Titanium Backup to either freeze or remove the bloatware from your phone as it runs in the background and causes drain. Another would be to look into using some of the tweaks found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1227269
Another option is to try running different firmwares, personally I found the older ones to give me better battery life while others found the oppisite to be true, so try a few till you find one that suits you. A more extreme approach which will yeild far better results is to unlock your bootloader allowing custom ROMs and kernels. With custom kernels you can over and underclock your phone while choosing more effecient governers (like the smartass governer). You can also undervolt your phone which will probably lead to the biggest saving. Custom ROMs can also increase or reduce your battery life, again, try a few. Personally I run at 1.5ghz on smartass, undervolted as much as possible with version 7.1.0.1 of CM7 and have great battery life. Also keep in mind the obvious tweaks such as turning off wifi, gps, 3g, brightness, etc to prolong battery life.
-EDIT- Also on older firmwares there was a problem with using "Automatic" under time and date where it would cause a lot of battery drain so you may want to turn this off if you think it might be a problem
Thanks, but I'd rather not root my phone yet. Thanks anyways
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I would say update to .62 firmware it should be up for all around the world yesterday i updated my arc s to it.I was setting up the phone after (flash before the update) and i had to set up everything again and my battery is still on 70% from yesterday (im talking downloading apps,connectin accs and stuff,like 3-4h of usage and around 8h on idle while i was sleeping).My phone isnt rooted and its with stock rom and stuff
I use juice defender ultimate. It allows me to easily get a days usage out of my phone when before i barely got a day
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On my new phone battery lasts for only 6 hours even if I don't use it (the phone is in the sleep). Battery lasts for same time if I use or don't use the phone. I did hard reset and nothing has changed. There are only few apps installed on the phone. What could be the problem?
When you first got the phone, you should charge it for 8 hours to check the battery.
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you should charge and use it until 0% for about 3,4times
if it still drains,then you should ask again.
try using app called "battery mix" and post us screenshot.
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When you first got the phone, you should charge it for 8 hours to check the battery.
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Bull****.
#licorice said:
you should charge and use it until 0% for about 3,4times
if it still drains,then you should ask again.
try using app called "battery mix" and post us screenshot.
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Bull****.
Guys, you really need to learn about the Li type batteries, that are used in phones. These are old myths, that do not apply to our phones anymore.
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Guys, you really need to learn about the Li type batteries, that are used in phones. These are old myths, that do not apply to our phones anymore.
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Finnaly someone with common sense. In no user manuals for last 10 years havent I seen an instruction to charge and discharge to 0% three times. If anyone noticed, these new batteries come precharged already, you can just put it in the cell phone and make some calls. It won't damage the battery at all.
How about we focus on the real question here, and find out, what are android phones are doing, that is so important, that it keeps them awake at night? Just today, i charged my cell phone to 100% around 1am, and after I woke up at 9 with 57% of battery left, because Android System kept the phone awake 5h 53m out of 5h 54m on battery.
Packages included:
Key Chain
CredentialManagerService_1_5
HDMI
Settings
System UI
AudioEffectService
Google Backup Transport
Settings Storage
Android System
FmRxService
So all these things seem to be very important, because they need to run in foreground all the time (so it seems)
@Dadovvv: check settings/battery to see what is using your battery the most.
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Finnaly someone with common sense. In no user manuals for last 10 years havent I seen an instruction to charge and discharge to 0% three times. If anyone noticed, these new batteries come precharged already, you can just put it in the cell phone and make some calls. It won't damage the battery at all.
How about we focus on the real question here, and find out, what are android phones are doing, that is so important, that it keeps them awake at night? Just today, i charged my cell phone to 100% around 1am, and after I woke up at 9 with 57% of battery left, because Android System kept the phone awake 5h 53m out of 5h 54m on battery.
Packages included:
Key Chain
CredentialManagerService_1_5
HDMI
Settings
System UI
AudioEffectService
Google Backup Transport
Settings Storage
Android System
FmRxService
So all these things seem to be very important, because they need to run in foreground all the time (so it seems)
@Dadovvv: check settings/battery to see what is using your battery the most.
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Tnx for rply and help..
Yesterday i make reflash using pc, all fresh installed without installing any apps and gmail acount default settings... i put all night to charg battery, at 06,00 AM disconnected from charger and leave phone in standbay..i am now at work and in 07,00 PM ill check phone and ill post picture and info..
sry for bad eng
Ok so here is update....
Phone is 12 hrs in standby without touching
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I will suggest NOT TO USE all those apps on market that promise battery saving cause they usually drain much more energy themselves. So on ics go to developer options in settings and tick third option from bottom (killing unused processes ASAP) and use task manager (hold home button a bit until recent apps show) then swype and kill them. If all this doesnt fix it buy new battery
Edit: so i saw on screenshots gingerbread, i suggest upgrading to ics. Its free and better os. But i also see that you should replace battery
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I will suggest NOT TO USE all those apps on market that promise battery saving cause they usually drain much more energy themselves. So on ics go to developer options in settings and tick third option from bottom (killing unused processes ASAP) and use task manager (hold home button a bit until recent apps show) then swype and kill them. If all this doesnt fix it buy new battery
Edit: so i saw on screenshots gingerbread, i suggest upgrading to ics. Its free and better os. But i also see that you should replace battery
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Ty.. How do you mean Gingerbread, I updatead to newest software (ICS)? I haven't installed any app from market. Phone is one month old. Please read my posts, I have explained everything..
Wow i am an idiot, but that doesnt change fact that you need new battery
ICS has a bug in its firmware, that causes Android OS or Android System to drain battery.
To avoid it, Restart your phone after every charging!
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Wow i am an idiot, but that doesnt change fact that you need new battery
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Ok..i tried another battery from a friend and still drain.
tnx
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ICS has a bug in its firmware, that causes Android OS or Android System to drain battery.
To avoid it, Restart your phone after every charging!
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i agree that ics has a bug in firmaware..i tried and restart and same drain.
u think that the warranty applies to this case?
I dont know what you people are talking. In my case battery lasts at least 2 days even when i listen to music at least 3 hours a day and use wi-fi almost all day...
Using ICS 4.0.4 rooted stock rom (bloatware removed)
DjDexter5GHz said:
I dont know what you people are talking. In my case battery lasts at least 2 days even when i listen to music at least 3 hours a day and use wi-fi almost all day...
Using ICS 4.0.4 rooted stock rom (bloatware removed)
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what release are u using? is it this one?
LT18i_4.1.B.0.431_Generic World Greece
cause im using this one aswell and i never manage to get 2 days out of it with heavy use...
Actually i dont know, how do i check that? (i think it is Nordic but not sure)
I think you can only check that in the filename of ftf that you flashed
@Dadovvv: Since the cell standby wastes a lot of energy, it may be, that you are on border of two cells, and your cell phone is constantly switching between them. Just for testing purposes, switch on airplane mode, and re-do the test (untouched cell phone until battery dies).
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I think you can only check that in the filename of ftf that you flashed
@Dadovvv: Since the cell standby wastes a lot of energy, it may be, that you are on border of two cells, and your cell phone is constantly switching between them. Just for testing purposes, switch on airplane mode, and re-do the test (untouched cell phone until battery dies).
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I flashed Xperia Arc (LT18i)_4.0.2.A.0.42_CE.ftf and than updated to 4.0.4
(i have no idea what it is)
And nice idea for airplane mode test!
I decided to send mobile to repair.
To see, what uses the battery, you can also use BetterBatteryStats. Very useful app, shows a lot of info about the usage.
Search it on xda.
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Hi guys,
I've rooted android N on N5x + Elementalx and I noticed something I don't know if it is normal or not.
I took some screenshots of my battery usage and it shows that " android system " consumes a little bit more battery than usual.
Please take a look at them and tell me if it is normal, if not, what should I do about it ?
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Well what was normal to you? What is the usual percentage use by Android System? 15% and below seems fine to me.
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Well what was normal to you? What is the usual percentage use by Android System? 15% and below seems fine to me.
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Since I just installed Nougat a week ago, I don't really know what is the normal use, that's why I'm asking if there's something wrong I should know about.
Same problem. But root+greenify+elementalx with profiles "solved" problem
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Same problem. But root+greenify+elementalx with profiles "solved" problem
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I forgot to mention that I use greenify too
you all are using greenify on android N?
noidea24 said:
you all are using greenify on android N?
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Ya, I'm actually thinking of disabling it and trust in the doze thing this time
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Ya, I'm actually thinking of disabling it and trust in the doze thing this time
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You should probably check onto some bloatware you are having on your device. If not, then fine and by the way greenify is safe to ise on android N. Make sure you are keeping it on root mode. Also i suggest you to flash a suitable kernel and use apps like kernel aduitor, set cpu. Do this and you wll see the drastic change in your performance and battery...
If you need further help for flashing kernels and apps for tweaking, count on me.
Cheers
Hit Thanks if it helped
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You should probably check onto some bloatware you are having on your device. If not, then fine and by the way greenify is safe to ise on android N. Make sure you are keeping it on root mode. Also i suggest you to flash a suitable kernel and use apps like kernel aduitor, set cpu. Do this and you wll see the drastic change in your performance and battery...
If you need further help for flashing kernels and apps for tweaking, count on me.
Cheers
Hit Thanks if it helped
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Thanks a lot PG, but I already know that, and I'm using Elementalx + Greenify Rooted mode. again, thanks
If any help then i am there buddy. Cheers
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If any help then i am there buddy. Cheers
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Thanks.
I'm pretty sure this has been plaguing Nougat since the beginning? Even during the developer previews? I thought I saw an article on /r/android that developers have inquired about the excessive battery usage by android system/etc, but it's been a neglected topic. Who knows?
Any more thoughts ?
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For those on Android N wanting to improve battery life, I took the time to try out a bunch of different settings and flashables and here is the best set up I found so far on NOUGAT in the past 2 weeks of using as daily. Flash latest ElementalX kernel, if you have the companion app also called "ElementalX kernel manager", go to cpu governor setting and enable glass fish 1.2 at boot for small and big clusters. make sure touch boost is turned off as it will prevent next step from changes sticking, Make sure cpu boost is off as well before proceeding.
-this might get a little confusing proceed carefully-
Now underclock cpu Max for small clusters to 787 MHz and Min to lowest possible. Also for the big clusters set max to 480 and min to lowest possible. Now if you have a recently updated Ex kernel manager you should have an option to individually set CPU on this SOC in the CPU main menu. Set it to CPU 0 only in small cluster ( cpu 0-4) and set CPU 5 & 6 in the big cluster ( cpu 5-6). Go to cpu governor for (big cluster) outside of cpu governor options menu in the main cpu menu in ex kernel manager, and set the big cluster to ElementalX gov.
-----------To double check if you did this right go to Dashboard on Ex kernel manager and check to see if only 3 cores are active; One of the cores at the top should be active, and two at the bottom should also be active. Now your CPU setup is finished.-------
download the app called "doze" it's the best working doze app in the play store for nougat in terms of battery life and consistency, I've tried Naptime force doze and amplify; Naptime used to be my favorite but doesn't work as well on NOUGAT IMO just like the "force doze" and "amplify", Just take my word for it.
Once doze is installed you will see a owl if you downloaded the right one, enable doze then click on the setting icon in the top right corner.
Once there you will find an option for aggressive dozing that will only allow doze will screen on and off, enable that option.
Then finally go to system settings for Android and scroll down to accessibility and enable automation for the doze app,
Now doze is properly configured for best battery life, now there's one other set I did which one download greenify and set it up the same way, making sure accessibility is set up on automation for greenify as well as apps set to be greenify'd. Now you should be ready to go, battery will last super long like 4-6 hrs SOT and on nougat that's saying something lololololol
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download the app called "doze" it's the best working doze app in the play store for nougat in terms of battery life and consistency, I've tried Naptime force doze and amplify; Naptime used to be my favorite but doesn't work as well on NOUGAT IMO just like the "force doze" and "amplify", Just take my word for it.
Once doze is installed you will see a owl if you downloaded the right one, enable doze then click on the setting icon in the top right corner.
Once there you will find an option for aggressive dozing that will only allow doze will screen on and off, enable that option.
Then finally go to system settings for Android and scroll down to accessibility and enable automation for the doze app,
Now doze is properly configured for best battery life, now there's one other set I did which one download greenify and set it up the same way, making sure accessibility is set up on automation for greenify as well as apps set to be greenify'd. Now you should be ready to go, battery will last super long like 4-6 hrs SOT and on nougat that's saying something lololololol
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all of those 'aggressive doze' apps are incompatible with nougat anyway. just saying.
Nah I thought that too the few days on nougat, but given the fact that it's been at least a solid month of use and seeing how it effects my battery compared to MM when I configure doze i know for a fact now that it works
and on top of that I had back and forth convos with Franco on Google play because I wrote a review on his naptime app, and he let me know I was totally misinformed by thinking doze apps don't work in nougat. His almost exact words were to make sure nothing is keeping your device awake and that he "can't do magic." so I'm guessing it's our responsibility to make sure doze is working properly before putting your device asleep Hope this helps
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Nah I thought that too the few days on nougat, but given the fact that it's been at least a solid month of use and seeing how it effects my battery compared to MM when I configure doze i know for a fact now that it works
and on top of that I had back and forth convos with Franco on Google play because I wrote a review on his naptime app, and he let me know I was totally misinformed by thinking doze apps don't work in nougat. His almost exact words were to make sure nothing is keeping your device awake and that he "can't do magic." so I'm guessing it's our responsibility to make sure doze is working properly before putting your device asleep Hope this helps
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I'm only using greenify for the aggressive dozing and it works super fine.
The problem here is with the " Android system " and " Android OS " battery consumption ( specially the first one ) they both consume more than 25% ( 15% + 10% )
Any thought about this ?
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I'm only using greenify for the aggressive dozing and it works super fine.
The problem here is with the " Android system " and " Android OS " battery consumption ( specially the first one ) they both consume more than 25% ( 15% + 10% )
Any thought about this ?
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Go to the playstore and look for disable system update service app, use maybe servicely from Franco also on the playstore and disable services and add apps to the hit list, and check back if there's a change. There's a thread somewhere that explains which services can be disabled without breaking apps like Gapps and ect
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Go to the playstore and look for disable system update service app, use maybe servicely from Franco also on the playstore and disable services and add apps to the hit list, and check back if there's a change. There's a thread somewhere that explains which services can be disabled without breaking apps like Gapps and ect
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I'm having Elementalx as Kernel, will Franco's servicely work fine with that ?