[Q] Win Me Over: Galaxy Nexus vs Galaxy S2 HD LTE - Samsung Galaxy Nexus

Hello, lads! 'Names Abdi, and i'm new here to the xda forums. I'm looking for a new phone, done with my S1. After long search, I've narrowed it down to these 2 phones. The Samsung Galaxy Nexus and the Samsung Galaxy SII HD LTE from Bell Mobility. Before we start this face off, let me list some of my requirements for a smartphone:
Need microSD. I have a large music library (over 13 GB).
Need Gorilla Glass.
Need good camera.
As you guys can tell, these are all areas the Galaxy Nexus does not do well in. But here comes the catch, and this may help you with your arguments. The GS2 HD LTE has little developer support. Only 2 working roms on xda right now.
*Keep in mind: The GS2 HD LTE in this picture is not the one I'm looking at buying. This one is the international version. I am looking at the Bell Mobility version. They are basically the same phone, except for a little hardware differences. Same specs and all. Here is a picture of the Bell phone: http://www.technobuffalo.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/20120418_C6680_PHOTO_EN_12455-625x1024.jpg *
WIN ME OVER.
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Per your requirements, SGSII. GN has not expandable memory.
However, the GN development is huge and its a very important aspect unless your are planning rocking stock firmware.
In any case, I doubt you go through your ENTIRE music library every week, month or whatever it may be. If you're like many, you won't often find yourself re-listening 75% of your library.
Consider Spotify or another streaming service which allows for offline playlists with no commitment to store all your tunes on your device.
Camera-wise. When it comes to mobile phones, the megapixel count hardly ever makes a difference and it should not be used solely to judge the quality. I've found that all modern phones have very similar sensors, so the quality will be more or less the same throughout.
No Gorilla glass on the GN but just get a screen protector for it, it wont hurt anyone.

Updates. Variety of ROMs. Loads of Development Support. Buttery Smooth

Kakashi Hatake said:
Updates. Variety of ROMs. Loads of Development Support. Buttery Smooth
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But the SG2 HD LTE has dual 1.5 ghz...

abdi7451 said:
But the SG2 HD LTE has dual 1.5 ghz...
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The OMAP 4460 is rated for 1.5GHz, but down clocked due to some reasons, some of the gnex can be over clocked to 1.5GHz, some can't.
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Mach3.2 said:
The OMAP 4460 is rated for 1.5GHz, but down clocked due to some reasons, some of the gnex can be over clocked to 1.5GHz, some can't.
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Have you or someone else successfully overclocked to 1.5?

abdi7451 said:
Have you or someone else successfully overclocked to 1.5?
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I have, you do need to turn SR off though since it doesn't calibrate high frequency properly. But every device differs, I may be able to clock it that high, yours might not. Although I don't notice any difference in terms of UI snappiness whatsoever compared to 1.2, the only difference you'll get is higher benchmark scores it seems.

reysonance said:
I have, you do need to turn SR off though since it doesn't calibrate high frequency properly. But every device differs, I may be able to clock it that high, yours might not. Although I don't notice any difference in terms of UI snappiness whatsoever compared to 1.2, the only difference you'll get is higher benchmark scores it seems.
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SR?

abdi7451 said:
But the SG2 HD LTE has dual 1.5 ghz...
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Honestly to be completely serious, yes I know that the processor matters a lot but this is not that much of a difference and the biggest thing is that the gnex doesn't have any crappy skin over it! That Samsung phone probably has touch wiz which will probably make it lag more than the gnex. And of course, you get the latest updates
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abdi7451 said:
SR?
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SR= Smart Reflex. It is how your phone manages clock speeds and respective voltage for each slot. You can manually undervolt or turn smart reflex on and it will undervolt for you. I think most uses here would say SR is recommended and should be left turned on.
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When was android 4.0 first released?...[if you know what i mean]

Yea, I like the look of the Nexus too man. Think it looks a lot nicer.

abdi7451 said:
Yea, I like the look of the Nexus too man. Think it looks a lot nicer.
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Nexus does indeed look much better than the SGSII. No hardware soft buttons, curved and slim profile.
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bodh said:
When was android 4.0 first released?...[if you know what i mean]
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No, I DONT know what you mean....

It was a reference to updates, and how most devices get left behind.

Sounds mad but I've overclocked my galaxy nexus to 1.8Ghz. So dual 1.8Ghz is quite something!
Is it even possible I don't know. Least what ROM toolbox says.
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iHarpZz said:
Sounds mad but I've overclocked my galaxy nexus to 1.8Ghz. So dual 1.8Ghz is quite something!
Is it even possible I don't know. Least what ROM toolbox says.
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How useless...

DeHuMaNiZeD said:
Come to the dark side. We have weed and cookies.
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Combined.
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How ever you want it bro
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abdi7451 said:
Have you or someone else successfully overclocked to 1.5?
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i have overclocked to 1.8ghz.. though i must say after some time thermal throttle reaches limits and switches off.. but that maybe cuz of my heavy usage

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GPU Performance? Lack Luster?

Is anyone else noticing that the GPU in this phone is very slow when comparing it to some other Galaxy S and Galaxy S II models? Previously I had a Samsung Epic 4G and the GPU in smart bench 2011 would score ~2200. Now the Epic 4G has the same PowerVR SGX540 as the galaxy nexus so it should score and perform just as well.
Now I also have a Galaxy S II Epic Touch 4G and the specs for that phone are similar to the Galaxy Nexus. The Epic Touch has a Mali 400 and scores ~2500. Now the the Epic Touch will play N64oid just fine with no lag at all where the Epic would lag a bit.
When playing N64oid on the Galaxy Nexus its just a slow and laggy as my old droid charge was. Now the Galaxy Nexus will not score above ~1800 in smartbench. The droid charge scores higher than that.
Any ideas can any one post their scores so I can see if its just my phone?
Keep in mind the GN's GPU is rendering over 2 times more pixels.
Disclaimer: I don't know if Smartbench runs their benchmarking at native resolutions.
Good point....
Can any one run smart bench 2011 and post a screen shot so i know its not my device?
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Well I guess its not the phone......damn.....
Don't put your faith in stretchmarks. At the end of the day if one GPU scores higher then the other on smart bench but both run the games you wanna play with no problems then whats the point of having the bigger number?
And are you running @ 308 or 384?
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th0r615 said:
Don't put your faith in stretchmarks. At the end of the day if one GPU scores higher then the other on smart bench but both run the games you wanna play with no problems then whats the point of having the bigger number?
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Same reason why people overclock their computers / obsessed about not getting 100+ fps. Oh the eye can't notice any difference above 30 fps but people want 250 fps anyway.
Keep in mind that the benchmark that you're using is not optimized for ICS. So its a unaccurate result. Benchmarks don't mean anything. It's real-time performance that really matters.
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Oh the eye can't notice any difference above 30 fps but people want 250 fps anyway.
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Most people seem to notice the difference between say, 30 and 60fps in video. The eye is pretty capable of noticing sluggishness because it happens in contrasts, even if they can't count each frame.
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Most people seem to notice the difference between say, 30 and 60fps in video. The eye is pretty capable of noticing sluggishness because it happens in contrasts, even if they can't count each frame.
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Lol. The human eye cannot discern above 30 fps. 31fps and 60fps look the same.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but the gnex is software rendered not hardware so it will bench out badly. There are roms out now that force hardware rendering... the quadrant scores jump from 1500 to 2800
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danalo1979 said:
Lol. The human eye cannot discern above 30 fps. 31fps and 60fps look the same.
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Lol (?) I can't seem to find the scientific or even opinionated "proof" that people can't tell the difference. Even subjective experience tells me that people can tell the difference in displays so I don't know why it's treated as a glib fact by you. There seems to be a lot of tests and experiments out there just by doing a cursory search. Can you point me to the definitive evidence?
danalo1979 said:
Lol. The human eye cannot discern above 30 fps. 31fps and 60fps look the same.
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If the image switches between black and white each frame, the image appears to flicker at frame rates slower than 30 FPS (interlaced). In other words, the flicker fusion point, where the eyes see gray instead of flickering tends to be around 60 FPS (inconsistent). However, fast moving objects may require higher frame rates to avoid judder (non-smooth, linear motion) artifacts — and the retinal fusion point can vary in different people, as in different lighting conditions. - Wikipedia
For object motion, 30 vs 60 can be a huge difference, most noticeable when turning.
th0r615 said:
Don't put your faith in stretchmarks. At the end of the day if one GPU scores higher then the other on smart bench but both run the games you wanna play with no problems then whats the point of having the bigger number?
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I guess that's my issue N64oid lags a lot and does not have smooth game play when in goran mountain in major's mask or just in general, but on my Galaxy S II Epic Touch 4G I get no lag at all.....none...sucks that sprints 4g and 3g blow
danalo1979 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but the gnex is software rendered not hardware so it will bench out badly. There are roms out now that force hardware rendering... the quadrant scores jump from 1500 to 2800
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Sooo would this be the same for any app or game? Its going to render using the CPU(software) and not use the GPU....? That sounds a bit strange but in this case would be the reason why it runs so slow.

HTC SENSATION XE stock violates my GNEX- AnTuTu..UPDATE NEW KERNEL

I just did a benchmark test with AnTuTu with the htc sensation xe stock of my brother, and my Gnex and am a bit disappointed with the result of my Gnex, this sucks.
brother phone HTC SENSATION XE STOCK - one test
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I did my gnex 2 times the test and these are the results.. really sucks
Dammmm google were thinking when they made ​​the Gnex.
Is this a serious thread? I can't tell.
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kangxi said:
Is this a serious thread? I can't tell.
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man this a serious thread only did these tests a few hours ago with my brother, because it can not be a serious post ???
Ok. Well you should know that most benchmarks aren't optimized for ICS yet. Also, the Galaxy Nexus uses a much higher resolution than most other phones, so it will probably score a little lower based on that fact alone. It's like turning the resolution down on a video game to make it run faster.
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kangxi said:
Ok. Well you should know that most benchmarks aren't optimized for ICS yet. Also, the Galaxy Nexus uses a much higher resolution than most other phones, so it will probably score a little lower based on that fact alone. It's like turning the resolution down on a video game to make it run faster.
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ok man all that I know, but the creator of AnTuTu said that his benchmark is optimized for ICS.
sure benchmark scores don't mean anything... but was also sad when i had almost identical scores with the Rezound(stock) & the GN(stock).
1. i realize they aren't "optimized" for ICS yet
2. what kind of scores will the Rezound get once it has ICS also
voxigenboy said:
sure benchmark scores don't mean anything... but was also sad when i had almost identical scores with the Rezound(stock) & the GN(stock).
1. i realize they aren't "optimized" for ICS yet
2. what kind of scores will the Rezound get once it has ICS also
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I do not know the results for the Rezound when has ICS, but now I do not like what I see on the results of Gnex.
Benchmarks don't really mean much. Is your phone fast? Good. Does it lag? No? Good. Do sites load fast on the browser? Good.... Plays games well? Great...
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http://imgur.com/CrGJb
On a serious note, I didn't buy my Nexus for performance and speed, but rather for its amazing UI, ability to get updates first from Google as well as have various issues fixed with timely upgrades, huge developer base, 720p screen and most importantly, no bloatware. The specs of the Nexus are good enough for my standards. Everything is buttery smooth with not even the slightest lag on Android Revolution HD 2.1.2 with Jame Bond Kernel (OC'd to 1.4GHz).
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http://imgur.com/CrGJb
On a serious note, I didn't buy my Nexus for performance and speed, but rather for its amazing UI, ability to get updates first from Google as well as have various issues fixed with timely upgrades, huge developer base, 720p screen and most importantly, no bloatware. The specs of the Nexus are good enough for my standards. Everything is buttery smooth with not even the slightest lag on Android Revolution HD 2.1.2 with Jame Bond Kernel (OC'd to 1.4GHz).
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James Bond kernel?
Does it sleep with your girlfriend then blow itself up to cover up the evidence??
Benchmarks mean absolutely nothing. Real world performance is everything. That being said play this hd trailer http://www.hdtrailerz.com/movie-trailers/men-in-black-3 on his sensation xe and then play it on yours. Not only is the screen quality difference very distinct, you will see a difference in the fluidity of the video (that is if his phone can play it without it stopping every second).
I can definitely go out on a limb here and say:
PowerVR GPU's are definitely faster than Adreno's...
Your also testing a seasoned android version 2.3.x with new ICS. Thats like comparing Froyo to Gingerbread. Or Windows 7 to Windows 8. ICS isn't optimized yet. Plus it uses more of the GPU for GUI side.
I dont think the adreno is more powerful in power. Just like the Tegra 2 was flawless in games but scores lower in benchmarks compared to the SGS2.
If you look at the benchmarks against the Tegra 3 in the OP... 2D, 3D and stuff are about the same (3D is a little less on the Tegra 3) and most of your score comes from the CPU side with it having 4 cores and more RAM.
If My Device = Sensation then they are about equal in GPU but differ in floating point values.
I would put this in the "forget it" category. Let's wait till ICS for other devices before calling a winner.
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Erm...am I missing something? Both phones have a pretty similar spec, wouldn't you expect them to have similar benchmarks?
I haven't experienced much lag using the phone, assuming you haven't either I fail to see the importance of the benchmarks.
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Can you show the court on this mock unit where thebad phone touched you?
Fark me. you serious?? The XE has a lesser screen resolution and you're worried about it beating the GN in benchmarks???
How about you go swap with your Bro and use the XE for a few days and see how much it lags.. You'll be crawling back to your Bro for forgiveness and wanting the GN back for sure...
I had the XE for 2 days and ebay'd it. The only thing the XE has over the GN is the quality feel that every HTC device has..
Xda needs a benchmark section haha
scored around 6000 on antutu with a stock GSM nexus, not a benchmark whore as my atrix o/c to 1.45ghz with cm7 but its silky smooth, and thats what counts. even the atrix stutters with a great quadrant/antutu score, so it doesnt mean much
I think some people aren't really made for a Nexus.
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This is a plain horrible OP, maybe you should spend more time actually using your phone instead of posting this rubbish.
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Thinking about a Nitro?...Compare to other 720p phones!

A prevalent question on these Nitro forums is whether or not to buy it...As compared to <whatever> phone. I think the most common comparison is with the Samsung Galaxy S2.
The problem is, the GS2 is an 800x480 resolution phone. To get an idea of why that doesn't make sense, go ahead and set your laptop's screen resolution to 800x600. How's that look to you? Now walk over to your computer and set it to 1280x800, how's that?
Not exactly a controlled and scientific comparison right? Different systems, different screens, different just about everything.
IMHO, if you're considering the Nitro and want to compare it to something?...Then there's really only 1 other phone (in the US, anyway); the HTC Rezound which has the exact same CPU/GPU chipset and 1280x720 screen (LCD though, not IPS). You could also compare with the Samsung Galaxy Nexus, there's a LOT of variances there too but it's one of the only phones that also has the 1280x720 screen.
I stress the commonality of 1280x720 because not everything works properly (or even at all) when trying to display at this resolution and also there's potential draw delays to compensate. So make sure you're looking at the other phones that could share this same hurdle so you set your expectations accordingly.
good points, thanks!
To add two more 720P phones were announced at ces coming to AT&T. The Sony Xperia Ion and the Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket HD.
@Namura: Appreciate the "cold water" treatment. might make others think twice both for flaming the P930 and the comparison to other units.
@Kindawack: prototypes/announced phones don't figure into what he is talking about, as they are not market launched yet.
Knock it off all stay on topic and stop arguing, doesn't belong on xda!!!
Only 2 720p phone on market at this time.
MoreYummy said:
Only 2 720p phone on market at this time.
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I think it's like 4.
-Galaxy Nexus
-LG Nitro HD (duh)
-HTC Rezound
-Samsung GS2 HD (my dream phone)
I meant the ones are actually on the market for sale.
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I meant the ones are actually on the market for sale.
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GS2 HD IS on the market. Just not the US market. But if you want to talk about internationally, i think Sharp/Toshiba has got 720p phones too
Can't say how this site is accurate, but I like how you can set the parameters for search and how it shows the table:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacom...&id4=3215&id5=3233&id6=3109&id7=3271&id8=3064
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Can't say how this site is accurate, but I like how you can set the parameters for search and how it shows the table:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacom...&id4=3215&id5=3233&id6=3109&id7=3271&id8=3064
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Yeah, I wonder about the validity of their info as well. Considering the Samsung Note LTE for AT&T was only announced yesterday at CES...With the only confirms being 1.5GHz Qualcomm chipset (but no verification as to which model) and availability as "in the coming months"...Whereas that pdadb shows it as releasing in Feb and has the same APQ8060 chip as our Nitro.
man, i am way past waiting for the next kick ass phone to be released. I had been waiting since the droid bionic announcement (the 1st one ;-0) prior to getting this nitro.
not playing the *let's give it another month and see what's released* game no mo!
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Yup, I agree. I spent 5 months waiting for nothing..... as each day passes I'm more and more pleased with the Nitro.
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I am constantly hoping for a CWM breakthrough for our phone but then I remember that I am actually 100% satisfied with my rooted, debloated, blue icon and battery mod, go launcher ex Nitro, then I don't worry about CWM as much.
Same here. As long I am rooted, debloated, custom launcher (zean) and sim unlocked I am good. Custom roms would nice but a lot of time, they are a pain to keep up.
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I know benchmarks dont mean squat, but I am surprised how Nitro HD fairs well in any 3D benchmarks especially with 720p screen and sub-optimised soft. See attached Antutu benchmark. Barely behind Galaxy Nexus with ICS.
I just fired up Shadowgun and it does drop a frame here and there. No Tegra afterall but 4.5 inch 720p is looking better than I remember playing on Atrix 4G.
LMAO
IPS is just one type of LCD,
IPS, MVA, PVA, ASV are all good screen types,
the only bad screen is TN, which is never used on high end android devices.
AMOLED sucks IMO, over saturated, and your vision killer. Dont even mention most of the AMOLED on the market is pentile display.
theoski said:
I know benchmarks dont mean squat, but I am surprised how Nitro HD fairs well in any 3D benchmarks especially with 720p screen and sub-optimised soft. See attached Antutu benchmark. Barely behind Galaxy Nexus with ICS
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look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20564401&postcount=30 'tis even way ahead of nexus being reset and debloated
Billy Madison said:
look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20564401&postcount=30 'tis even way ahead of nexus being reset and debloated
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scores well eh. got a bit better score just now
The score is about same when you compare the top 3.
Not much differences.

Galaxy S III CPU details leaked (Exynos 5)

This seems to align with my earlier statements that the GSIII will more likely be a dual-core CPU at 2-2.5Ghz rather than a quad-core at 1-1.5Ghz.
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Did the murmurings about a quad-core Galaxy S III this morning leave you feeling a bit... meh? We don't blame you. Sure, four cores and integrated LTE sounds great but (and this is a big "but"), Cortex-A9 is old hat. What we really want to hear about are those upcoming Cortex-A15 chips. Well, this should get your blood flowing -- a slide has leaked, allegedly loaded with detailed Exynos 5 specs. Looks like initial entrants will have a pair of A15 cores running at 2GHz, backed up by a quad-core Mali T-604 MP4 GPU. All of that will supposedly be built with Samsung's new 32nm High-K Metal Gate process. We've been unable to independently verify these details, but they are in line with what we've been led to expect. Still, until some Sammy PR comes down the pipeline we're taking everything with a grain of salt.
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I'm more excited for this than the quad-core.
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What are the advantages of a15 over a9? smaller and higher clock speed? Anything else?
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Gotta love the rumor mill. It may also come with wireless charging capabilities.
http://phandroid.com/2012/03/19/samsung-galaxy-s-iiis-secret-weapon-is-wireless-charging-rumor/
All I know is only that phone can lure me away from this one
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master acehole said:
All I know is only that phone can lure me away from this one
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master acehole said:
All I know is only that phone can lure me away from this one
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Lure isn't the word for it. That phone could coerce me into jumping into a pitch of fire. Lol.
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i too would prefer the enhanced dual core over the quadcore at 1.5 each core. Who needs quadcore on their phones when dualcore hasnt even been fully optimized yet, ya they say it helps with battery drain but they said that about dual core as well on the g2x which has extremely terrible battery life.
I still love my g2x for its incredible display and nvidia gpu but this epic touch 4g just pwned it lol
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If this phone is less than a 4.5 inch screen, I can't do it. Can't go back. I need NOTE size if anything.
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What are the advantages of a15 over a9? smaller and higher clock speed? Anything else?
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I don't know the intricacies of the architecture, but it's made with (I believe) a 32nm die instead of the 45nm Cortex-A9s, which usually means less power consumption and more performance. There are also new instructions supported by the CPU which allow it to perform tasks more efficiently. Other than that, I don't quite know. But it's smaller and faster. The A15s are going to blow all A9-based chips out of the water. I'm interested to see how the new A15s stand up against the S4 Krait processors from Qualcomm. That thing got 218mflops in Linpack... nearly shat my pants.
If this is real and Sammy puts it in the SGS3 you can bet your sweet ass it's going to be the fastest phone ever made.
I think there are gonna be two variants one a15 dula core 2ghz and other quadcore a9.
What would ppl choose battery or performance?
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Hmmm I don't think this is slated for the GSIII, but rather Samsung's 2013 device lineup. The GSIII is expected to run a quad A9 SoC.
Hey, how about this for something. Maybe there is going to be multiple variations of the SGSIII that will each satisfy the rumors? Just a thought lol
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Hmmm I don't think this is slated for the GSIII, but rather Samsung's 2013 device lineup. The GSIII is expected to run a quad A9 SoC.
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That makes no sense. Why follow up a quad core with a dual core.
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stumpyz9 said:
That makes no sense. Why follow up a quad core with a dual core.
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Because more cores doesn't always mean better.
Or how about forget all the rumors and we just wait till Samsung tells the world about it. It might not even really be ready yet.
The world would be a boring place without rumors. If you don't like them don't comment on them.
A quad-core Cortex-A9 GS3 would make me a sad panda. There are going to be a lot of kickass A15 and Krait-based phones out this year. If Sammy goes with A9 it's going to lose its competitive edge.
All I know is that I don't want it to be called the within on sprint
The "epic win" or "samsung emperor" would be much better names
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gtuansdiamm said:
All I know is that I don't want it to be called the within on sprint
The "epic win" or "samsung emperor" would be much better names
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Samsung emperor sounds like a penguin lol
Dchibro said:
Because more cores doesn't always mean better.
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Yes, well a majority of consumers arent technically inclined and automatically think more cores equals better performance.
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Performance?

Hi.
When i bought my SGN i knew it was the fastest phone at the time.
Now, 4 months later i've got myself a Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1.
First thing i did, was to get some ICS on it. I used AOKP ROM.
To see how well it performed, i ran a Quadrant test on it. It scored good, and even better after i activated overclock (1,4GHz)
Just for the fun of it, i ran the same test on my SGN, and i was surprised over the results!
SGN:
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"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
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"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
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Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1:
Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 1,4 GHz:
Can anyone explain this to me?
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Quadrant is unreliable.
people still use quadrant?
It's a bar graph showing the different results of an application called "Quadrant". The higher the bar the "faster" your device is perceived to be. This tool is often used to determine the speed of devices when they are first received or used to determine how well a specific ROM/Kernel/Mod works.
If you need any more explaining please let me know.
Oh god, a benchmark thread!!
What are you trying to accomplish with this app if you have both devices in hand.
Use them and you can see if one performs better. If you need an app to tell you that then surely there is no noticeable difference.
miketoasty said:
It's a bar graph showing the different results of an application called "Quadrant". The higher the bar the "faster" your device is perceived to be. This tool is often used to determine the speed of devices when they are first received or used to determine how well a specific ROM/Kernel/Mod works.
If you need any more explaining please let me know.
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Thank you for not jumping my throat like the other posters seems to do
My SGN seems fastest in some games f.x. Temple Run.
So i wondered why the device with the lowest score, performed best in this game.
Now i know that benchmarks zre used for testing the performance of different roms on the same device (if i understood you correctly)
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Equalixer said:
Thank you for not jumping my throat like the other posters seems to do
My SGN seems fastest in some games f.x. Temple Run.
So i wondered why the device with the lowest score, performed best in this game.
Now i know that benchmarks zre used for testing the performance of different roms on the same device (if i understood you correctly)
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quadrant means nothing. literally. there are hacks to the kernel that can skew the results heavily.
Quadrant is not a reliable result. Can't find some dev's comment that put it perfectly...
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I hate how quadrant combines everything. Most of your score is I/O port speed.
Quadrant really needs to break down each benchmark separately and compare them better (ex: CPUvsCPU ). Overall it seems pretty comparable to the Nexus if you try to match up what counts. Looking at it, Tab has a slower processor, faster GPU, faster port IO, and comparable 2D. Nothing we didn't know already comparing our Nexus chips with the Tegra 2.
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Equalixer said:
Can anyone explain this to me?
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Yes, you used a benchmark.
You do not want to use a benchmark, for they are unreliable and full of crap. (I needed a few years until I fully understood this, too)
The main purpose of "multimedia benchmarks" is to make you want to buy a newer, faster device with a higher benchmark score.
If your device feels fast enough, it is fast enough.
STOP USING FREAKING BENCHMARKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jeez....
If you put the gov. on performance or ondemand you can easily get the score in the 3k with the GN.
Also, benchmarks don't mean anything.
It's like saying that 1000hp Bugatti can go around a track faster than the Ferrari 458 because it has 400+ more horsepower. It just doesn't. The Bugatti may perform faster, but it doesn't quite move like the 458...get it?
Horrible comparison btw.
Equalixer said:
Thank you for not jumping my throat like the other posters seems to do
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That's because he's flame-baiting. Of course we know what Quadrant is.
My SGN seems fastest in some games f.x. Temple Run.
So i wondered why the device with the lowest score, performed best in this game.
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Because quadrant is horribly unreliable. It is comically unreliable. Reviewers don't even use it anymore and have long since moved to better benchmarks. Quadrant's flaws are heavily documented and go waaaaay back. The most notable major criticism of Quadrant was from Cyanogen some 2 years ago:
http://androidspin.com/2010/08/23/my-quadrant-is-bigger-than-your-quadrant/
http://briefmobile.com/cyanogen-demonstrates-quadrants-flaws
Quadrant has not improved since then.
Well firstly you thought wrong when you bought your nexus as the galaxy s 2 is much much faster than the nexus so there was your first problem, second I would probably expect the galaxy tab to be faster as the nexus is a slow device and thirdly you are using benchmarks.
I'd do more research in future.before buying phones and tablets and would of bought galaxy s 2 for speed and Asus transformer prime for a tablet.
bencozzy said:
I usually score 4000ish on my nexus in quadrant but it is unreliable.
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That 1.7ghz clock speed. Can't even imagine how many times your cpu was throttled during those tests. To OP don't use benches as trying to guage the performance standard of your device. Gnex delivers a nearly flawless user experience when it comes to UI, browsing and gaming.
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biffsmash said:
Well firstly you thought wrong when you bought your nexus as the galaxy s 2 is much much faster than the nexus so there was your first problem, second I would probably expect the galaxy tab to be faster as the nexus is a slow device and thirdly you are using benchmarks.
I'd do more research in future.before buying phones and tablets and would of bought galaxy s 2 for speed and Asus transformer prime for a tablet.
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You clearly know what you're talking about .
zetsumeikuro said:
That 1.7ghz clock speed. Can't even imagine how many times your cpu was throttled during those tests. To OP don't use benches as trying to guage the performance standard of your device. Gnex delivers a nearly flawless user experience when it comes to UI, browsing and gaming.
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You clearly know what you're talking about .
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Lol you're right, that guy is insane if he thinks the galaxy nexus is "slow."
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