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Is it ok to delete the bloatware now?

Now that we have 2.3.4 that lets us delete the bloatware, is it ok to delete it and still be able to update?

My bloat is all listed as system apps, so the only way I can remove is via titanium backup. I have backed everything up, uninstalled it. When its time to update I will restore, update and then remove again.

gbesta said:
My bloat is all listed as system apps, so the only way I can remove is via titanium backup. I have backed everything up, uninstalled it. When its time to update I will restore, update and then remove again.
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Did you do this with Titanium Free or have you paid for it?
Can you explain exactly the process? Do you backup, then freeze? Freeze then backup? It confuses me...
I want to go through and remove the bloat, but I want to do it "right".

danieljamie said:
Did you do this with Titanium Free or have you paid for it?
Can you explain exactly the process? Do you backup, then freeze? Freeze then backup? It confuses me...
I want to go through and remove the bloat, but I want to do it "right".
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If you freeze, you don't have to backup. Freezing only makes the app not run, it doesn't uninstall...

Just be carefull what you delete! You will get alot of force closes there's a thread on this.. If you got ur phone running right you could even move system apps without any problems.. Just be sure to BACKUP ur ****
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You can only Freeze apps with the paid version of Ti Backup, but I would personally recommend it. Deleting stuff can be bad news if you don't know what you're deleting. Plus, you forfeit your ability to do firmware updates (without flashing). It won't remove the bloatware from internal storage, but it will at least stop it from starting up and using memory. And if you freeze something important, you can always unfreeze it.

danieljamie said:
Did you do this with Titanium Free or have you paid for it?
Can you explain exactly the process? Do you backup, then freeze? Freeze then backup? It confuses me...
I want to go through and remove the bloat, but I want to do it "right".
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I paid for the full version. Initially I froze things a couple at a time and kept rebooting to make sure all was good. Then once I froze everything I wanted to I waited a week, then uninstalled all frozen apps.
These are the ones I have uninstalled with no adverse effects so far (R800i locked to 3 UK)
Brick Breaker
Chinese Keyboard
Extension Search
Facebook
Facebook Calendar Sync
Facebook extension
Facebook setup
foursquare
foursquare timescape
friends games & ...ications
Friends music and videos
Fun and Downloads
Music Unlimited
Officesuite
Play on device
playstation pocket
Retail demo
SEMC Facebook proxy
Sony Ericsson Facebook
Spotify
Spotify Timescape
Store
Timescape Feeds
Timescape
Timescape Widget
Touchnote
Tower Bloxx
Twitter Extension
UEFA.com
Video Unlimited
WhattsApp
Wikipedia Extension
Win Cash
Wisepilot
Xperia Hot Shots
I also use link2SD for everythings except
FPSe
Market
Titanium Backup
Currently got 213MB free on internal storage. Free memory is 207MB. Phone is loads snappier than when I got it, and I no longer get Spotify force closes randomly.
Obviously what works for me, may not work for you. You might even be using facebook and spotify. Just backup everything and sync it to dropbox before you start playing.

Thankyou, I appreciate the advice..
How do I best move system things to SD card?

There is a guide to link2sd on here somwhere. Previously I was using the paid version of Apps2SD. Although I think you can move apps to the SD using titanium backup.

Wow. Bought Titanium Backup Pro. Synced with Dropbox (not even on WIFI but who cares). Ordered them by size. Converted some of the games to user apps. Moved to SD card. 115MB space on internal! WOW!

gbesta said:
I paid for the full version. Initially I froze things a couple at a time and kept rebooting to make sure all was good. Then once I froze everything I wanted to I waited a week, then uninstalled all frozen apps.
These are the ones I have uninstalled with no adverse effects so far (R800i locked to 3 UK)
Brick Breaker
Chinese Keyboard
Extension Search
Facebook
Facebook Calendar Sync
Facebook extension
Facebook setup
foursquare
foursquare timescape
friends games & ...ications
Friends music and videos
Fun and Downloads
Music Unlimited
Officesuite
Play on device
playstation pocket
Retail demo
SEMC Facebook proxy
Sony Ericsson Facebook
Spotify
Spotify Timescape
Store
Timescape Feeds
Timescape
Timescape Widget
Touchnote
Tower Bloxx
Twitter Extension
UEFA.com
Video Unlimited
WhattsApp
Wikipedia Extension
Win Cash
Wisepilot
Xperia Hot Shots
I also use link2SD for everythings except
FPSe
Market
Titanium Backup
Currently got 213MB free on internal storage. Free memory is 207MB. Phone is loads snappier than when I got it, and I no longer get Spotify force closes randomly.
Obviously what works for me, may not work for you. You might even be using facebook and spotify. Just backup everything and sync it to dropbox before you start playing.
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exactly what im looking now, is this on 2.3.4?

brochador said:
exactly what im looking now, is this on 2.3.4?
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Not sure what you mean, but yes I am running 2.3.4.

gbesta said:
Not sure what you mean, but yes I am running 2.3.4.
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yeah OS version, 2.3.4.. I lost the 'more games' on our launcher, and i think that's the fun & downloads, good thing i created a back up..

You guys realise I meant apps that are actualy uninstallable, right? Not stuff you can get rid of with TB?

The Alpha Gamer said:
You guys realise I meant apps that are actualy uninstallable, right? Not stuff you can get rid of with TB?
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As I said in my first post. All of my bloat is system apps and can only be removed with titanium backup.

gbesta said:
As I said in my first post. All of my bloat is system apps and can only be removed with titanium backup.
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Then why do mine have an "uninstall" option?

The Alpha Gamer said:
Then why do mine have an "uninstall" option?
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Good question, and one that interests me. I have an R800i sim locked to 3 UK. The stuff I listed along with the games is considered by me to be bloat. Yet all of them are system apps. Leaving me unable to remove them, or move to the SD card.
I have since converted and /or removed them using titanium backup.
Do you have uninstall options for the items I listed. What phone do you have and is it provider locked, or sim free?

gbesta said:
Good question, and one that interests me. I have an R800i sim locked to 3 UK. The stuff I listed along with the games is considered by me to be bloat. Yet all of them are system apps. Leaving me unable to remove them, or move to the SD card.
I have since converted and /or removed them using titanium backup.
Do you have uninstall options for the items I listed. What phone do you have and is it provider locked, or sim free?
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Out of the ones you listed, just UEFA, What'sapp, Wisepilot, Hotshots and 2 Music Unlimiteds. I don't even have some of the bloat you have though.
It's an R800i, sim free

The Alpha Gamer said:
Out of the ones you listed, just UEFA, What'sapp, Wisepilot, Hotshots and 2 Music Unlimiteds. I don't even have some of the bloat you have though.
It's an R800i, sim free
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Sim free is seeming the better option, as you can unlock the bootloader, and you get less bloat. Wish I knew that before signing up for contract. Just after I got it, I noticed sim free was only £150 - £200.

gbesta said:
Sim free is seeming the better option, as you can unlock the bootloader, and you get less bloat. Wish I knew that before signing up for contract. Just after I got it, I noticed sim free was only £150 - £200.
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That must have stung D=
mine was £180 from Argos.

Q: [Battery Efficiency - Roms, Apps, Tweaks]

First off I wanna ask what happened to the survey on the best rom? It was a pretty useful thread for people to check on to find out what rom would be best for their needs. Was that thread causing any conflict?
Now to my real question :
What can you guys suggest as the BEST Rom, Application or Tweak for improving SGY's battery life? I mean, at least sacrificing the LEAST amount of performance.
I just downloaded and installed a new rom, but the problem is (although its very nice, fast and all), it sucks out my battery so bad that its not even worth sacrificing battery for performance.
Can you guys give me something like -
What Rom, Apps (Battery Saver), Launcher, Widgets, Tweaks, etc, you are using and by how much your battery regulary lasts? (With regular usage of calls, messaging, browing the net, playing games and music, etc.)
Thanks a lot for your input guys.

did you try freezing unwanted background services that were running on the custom rom that you were once on??
less background services = more battery life

leodasal2 said:
did you try freezing unwanted background services that were running on the custom rom that you were once on??
less background services = more battery life
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Already did. I went so far as to uninstall apps I didnt even use like Google Maps, Mail, etc.
Right now these are some of the things left in my cache:
Google back up transport
User Dictionary
CSC
Status bar
Google contacts sync
Software update
SyncmIDS
SNS
SamsungAppsUNA2
LogsProvider
BrcmBluetoothServices
PCWDevice
DRM content
Im not sure which ones of these that are left should I freeze.
They all auto-restart themselves, and I think my phone wouldnt function properly if I freezed them.

I don't know what custom rom should I use. Can anyone suggest me?
Sent from my GT-S5360 using xda premium

godofping1111 said:
I don't know what custom rom should I use. Can anyone suggest me?
Sent from my GT-S5360 using xda premium
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Check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1534510
listed there are all the custom ROM's available as of now.. visit the individual threads and read up on features.
I use Chobits myself

glennlevi said:
Already did. I went so far as to uninstall apps I didnt even use like Google Maps, Mail, etc.
Right now these are some of the things left in my cache:
Google back up transport
User Dictionary
CSC
Status bar
Google contacts sync
Software update
SyncmIDS
SNS
SamsungAppsUNA2
LogsProvider
BrcmBluetoothServices
PCWDevice
DRM content
Im not sure which ones of these that are left should I freeze.
They all auto-restart themselves, and I think my phone wouldnt function properly if I freezed them.
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You can freeze the "Software update" if your not planning to update your phone via Over-The-Air upgrade and Samsung AppsUNA2 if you're not using Samsung Apps because this is part of Samsung Apps.
Just don't freeze the following
Process name | Description
DRM Content-Dont freese this process because some people reported that
they ringtones got messed up after freezing this.
Status Bar-Where you can see your notifications , Don't freeze this.
BrcmBluetoothServices-Part of Bluetooth services on our phone,Don't freeze this.
SNS-Social Network Services. This will manage your accounts like
Facebook,Twitter etc.
Google Contacts sync-Syncs your Google contacts to your Contacts , You can
disable this on Settings>Accounts & Sync>Tap on your
Google Account>Uncheck "Sync Contacts">Done !
Google Backup Transport-Unknown Description . Just don't freeze this .
LogsProvider-Unknown description - Just don't freeze this .
CSC-Contains your important network settings , Don't freeze this.
PCWDevice- Your Device
SyncmIDS-Unknown Description . Just don't freeze ..
Do i have mistakes on what to freeze and not to freeze ? , Just correct me

[Q] How to reinstall Sony apps on AOSP?

I have JJ Hybrid 3.1 installed with Sirkays kernel. Is there a way to reinstall some of the Sony apps like Weather Widget, Widget Select Widget, Alarm, Possibly even the home launcher? I tried copying the weather widget apk into system/apps with rw-r-r and rebooted but it still is not available in the ICS widgets menu.

arpith.fbi said:
u cannot use some stock apps as these apps requires sony supporting files,which can only be found on stock roms..
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Can anyone recommend a stock ROM without McAfee and Wisepilot (the two apps I am unable to uninstall). Tweaked to be smoother, faster and more stable would be nice also.
Really I would like only Home launcher, Panorama, Weather widget, Alarm, Widget select widget, Turn things on and off widget (or a better status bar with toggles like some ROMs). Everything else can pretty much go to the bin

deadman3000 said:
Can anyone recommend a stock ROM without McAfee and Wisepilot (the two apps I am unable to uninstall).
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Install Titanium Backup and remove them.

To use the Sony widgets, you need to have the Sony home launcher. Else, it won't work.
You can easily remove McAfee and WisePilot once you root your phone. Either browse to the app location as root and delete it (or) use Titanium Backup as XperienceD suggested.
Swyped from my SE Xperia arc (LT15i) using Tapatalk 2

I did (tried normal way and with Titanium) and it said they were uninstalled. Reboot the phone though and *POOF* they come back.

try root uninstaller and reboot they are gone for sure,
but why advice everyone titanium back up ?
in my eyes is it a sh*t app

deadman3000 said:
I did (tried normal way and with Titanium) and it said they were uninstalled. Reboot the phone though and *POOF* they come back.
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Ah, then uninstall them again, and look for two apks named McAfee and WisePilot, remove them before rebooting and the will be gone.
Pandemic said:
but why advice everyone titanium back up ?
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Because in a lot of Peoples eyes, it's a great app.

XperienceD said:
Ah, then uninstall them again, and look for two apks named McAfee and WisePilot, remove them before rebooting and the will be gone.
Because in a lot of Peoples eyes, it's a great app.
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LOL tried that. They came back. The APK's that is.

deadman3000 said:
LOL tried that. They came back. The APK's that is.
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Then you need to look for another two AFTER uninstalling. I've seen this before and I can guarantee they can be removed, you just need to find the two apks that auto install.

There must be a copy of those two apks somewhere else and that's causing this problem.
Swyped from my SE Xperia arc (LT15i) using Tapatalk 2

Copy .apk files from stock-based roms such as Arconium or MooDeD ICS. They are placed in "app" folder.

Option for disabling Samsung Crapware

hi guys..
just found today that if we go in Apps - All Apps - App Info, for some of the Samsung app, we see two buttons at the top, Force Close and Disable.
As I said, the Disable button shows up only on certain Samsung apps, for ex All Share Play has this, but not All Share Cast, etc.
My question now is..what does this disable function do? is it the same as freezing apps from TiBu? why is this only on selective apps?
Also, I disabled the following apps: Allshare Play, ChatOn, Exchange Services, Game Hub, Learning Hub, Readers Hub, Readers Hub Store! I know i dont use any of these ever, but can this in any way affect the normal functioning of the fone? I dont think any of the above are android critical apps..but jst want an opinion.
Thanks

sudeepm said:
hi guys..
just found today that if we go in Apps - All Apps - App Info, for some of the Samsung app, we see two buttons at the top, Force Close and Disable.
As I said, the Disable button shows up only on certain Samsung apps, for ex All Share Play has this, but not All Share Cast, etc.
My question now is..what does this disable function do? is it the same as freezing apps from TiBu? why is this only on selective apps?
Also, I disabled the following apps: Allshare Play, ChatOn, Exchange Services, Game Hub, Learning Hub, Readers Hub, Readers Hub Store! I know i dont use any of these ever, but can this in any way affect the normal functioning of the fone? I dont think any of the above are android critical apps..but jst want an opinion.
Thanks
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I fyou are are rooted you can delete them permanently with ROMCleaner from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1937955.
Make a nandroid backup first in case you might want them back. This is the best way to get rid of bloatware

I've done more or less the same stuff. No problems so far. If something goes wrong, remember what you have disabled. A mail function not working? Enable a disabled mail-related app and try again... Nothing worse than that happened when I disabled lots of stuff on my last phone (SGS2). No issues so far on Note 2.
Disabled apps is similar to saying "not loaded apps" or "inaccessible apps". I never dealt with freezing apps, but after a short look it seems like it can be like this: I think freezing apps is to basically turn of their normal behavior (they can not give notifications or anything like that during frozen status). It can still run but not perform it's normal functions.
The ones that can not be disabled can often be more critical to various other apps on the phone. If the phone is rooted there are usually more possibilities though.
Some built-in apps that has been upgraded may need to have the upgrade uninstalled before being able to disable it.
I have currently these disabled: Allshare Play, Bubbles, ChatOn, Deep sea, Dual clock, Exchange Services, Face Unlock, Favorite Contacts, Gallery (using QuickPic), Game Hub, Learning Hub, Luminus dots, Messaging (using Go SMS), Phase Beam, Photo Wall, Readers Hub, Readers Hub Store, Ripple Wall, S Suggest, S Voice, TalkBack, Windy Weather, Yahoo! (both).
Not all of those actually does any good to disable really... I just get them away from my sight So far no issues.

gee2012 said:
I fyou are are rooted you can delete them permanently with ROMCleaner from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1937955.
Make a nandroid backup first in case you might want them back. This is the best way to get rid of bloatware
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yep..aware of that. jst that i havent yet decided to go ahead and root this beast!
swejuggalo said:
I've done more or less the same stuff. No problems so far. If something goes wrong, remember what you have disabled. A mail function not working? Enable a disabled mail-related app and try again... Nothing worse than that happened when I disabled lots of stuff on my last phone (SGS2). No issues so far on Note 2.
Disabled apps is similar to saying "not loaded apps" or "inaccessible apps". I never dealt with freezing apps, but after a short look it seems like it can be like this: I think freezing apps is to basically turn of their normal behavior (they can not give notifications or anything like that during frozen status). It can still run but not perform it's normal functions.
The ones that can not be disabled can often be more critical to various other apps on the phone. If the phone is rooted there are usually more possibilities though.
Some built-in apps that has been upgraded may need to have the upgrade uninstalled before being able to disable it.
I have currently these disabled: Allshare Play, Bubbles, ChatOn, Deep sea, Dual clock, Exchange Services, Face Unlock, Favorite Contacts, Gallery (using QuickPic), Game Hub, Learning Hub, Luminus dots, Messaging (using Go SMS), Phase Beam, Photo Wall, Readers Hub, Readers Hub Store, Ripple Wall, S Suggest, S Voice, TalkBack, Windy Weather, Yahoo! (both).
Not all of those actually does any good to disable really... I just get them away from my sight So far no issues.
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great..thx for the details..didnt know this disable thing existed in older devices too.
Also, I noticed while disabling most of them, the "Force Close" button was also enabled, but again only for some. Does that somehow suggest that these apps stayed in the memory all/most of the time. Maybe some affect on battery by disabling them..! :highfive:

Sorry to bring up an older thread, but I couldn't find any other relevant thread about bloatware on the Note 2 [maybe my search keywords weren't correct ] But I was curious to what other apps or services are safe for us to disable/remove (without rooting the device)? My note 2 is from AT&T and from what I read and see, it appears to have a lot of bloatware. If anyone could direct me to a list of apps thats safe to remove, I'd be very appreciative. Thanks in advance!

There's a disable "Crap" button in settings.
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There's a dedicated thread for apps safe to remove:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1910885
When testing what is / isn't safe to remove - rather than deleting something just rename it in Root Explorer... eg if I wanted to delete Flipboard.apk I would change it to Flipboard.apk.bak first. Then if it screws the phone up you just change the name back, reboot and it will be back to normal. If there are no issues, then go back and fully delete it.

[Q] Removing Google Apps & Default Apps

I'm just wondering if removing some of the default that come pre installed google apps like gmail, playbook, play games ...or even the default calendar apps is going have any impact on the perfomance on the whole phone system or even the battery life.
It's kinda irritating to see apps that's in the app drawer that i dont use....plan to uninstall them off with titanium backup

eijnaix said:
I'm just wondering if removing some of the default that come pre installed google apps like gmail, playbook, play games ...or even the default calendar apps is going have any impact on the perfomance on the whole phone system or even the battery life.
It's kinda irritating to see apps that's in the app drawer that i dont use....plan to uninstall them off with titanium backup
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if they aren't running and never run (in the foreground or background) they won't impact battery life. if they are running you could stop them or freeze them with titanium. the only other difference they make is cluttering up the app drawer and taking up space in the storage.

BlueC78 said:
if they aren't running and never run (in the foreground or background) they won't impact battery life. if they are running you could stop them or freeze them with titanium. the only other difference they make is cluttering up the app drawer and taking up space in the storage.
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thanks for the info, but removing them would be a better ...yeah ?

eijnaix said:
thanks for the info, but removing them would be a better ...yeah ?
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Removing them, if you never use them won't make any difference at all, you might as well use the "hide" feature in the app drawer.
Removing some LG apps might make a difference, as some of them run even if you never actually use them, but the google apps will only run if you actually open them.
On a side note, I never understand why people buy android phones (especially top of the line, flagship phones!) and then remove almost every trace of Google from them, isn't it kind of defeating the whole point?

Lennyuk said:
Removing them, if you never use them won't make any difference at all, you might as well use the "hide" feature in the app drawer.
Removing some LG apps might make a difference, as some of them run even if you never actually use them, but the google apps will only run if you actually open them.
On a side note, I never understand why people buy android phones (especially top of the line, flagship phones!) and then remove almost every trace of Google from them, isn't it kind of defeating the whole point?
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I uses dropbox over google drive......dont need google music or play bookstore... but uses youtube, map a lot though
I don't suppose android is just about google...isnt it ?

Lennyuk said:
On a side note, I never understand why people buy android phones (especially top of the line, flagship phones!) and then remove almost every trace of Google from them, isn't it kind of defeating the whole point?
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That's the beauty of Android over iOS: you don't HAVE to use Google apps if you don't want to. Being able to uninstall any app should come by default on all ROMs.
I remember the big trial Microsoft has lost when it tried to force all users to use Internet Explorer in Windows. In Europe, they had to add it optionally, and provide way to remove it / download alternative software. Something similar might force Google to do the same in the future (and Apple, LG, Samsung, HTC, etc.)

As far as removing unnecessary core system apps, I've always used Root App Delete with no issues. It does require root but works perfectly to remove any unnecessary apps you don't want. Once I receive my G3 I plan on immediately rooting the phone and using Root App Delete to get rid of any bloat I don't want.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=zsj.android.systemappremover&hl=en

eijnaix said:
I uses dropbox over google drive......dont need google music or play bookstore... but uses youtube, map a lot though
I don't suppose android is just about google...isnt it ?
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exactly where is my point too, dropbox, youtube and google maps, well gmail etc, but dont wanna use g music, newstand, search, google plus etc. there should be an option to delete them without root!